Patient with 'Do Not Resuscitate' Creates Organ Donation Crisis | Chicago Med | MD TV
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- A critically ill patient arrives at the hospital with a "do not resuscitate" tattoo on his chest. His situation is complicated by the recent passing of his infant daughter, whose organs could save many lives-if her father consents.
From Chicago Med Season 4, Episode 8, "Play By My Rules": Dr. Charles and Dr. Choi are at odds over surgery. Dr. Rhodes finds himself in hot water.
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This was based on a real case; the doctors ultimately didn't get in trouble because the court determined it did count as a statement, but later it was ruled a tattoo is NOT enough legally so other people wouldn't try it in the future.
Which case?
@@rocketsingh9097 i too am now curious
A tattoo is not legally binding. Also if there's any doubt, you resuscitate.
Is that the policy in Chicago?
@@symbolguy3609 That's the law everywhere.
Unless there's signed DNR paperwork, you should resuscitate. Tattoos, pendants, etc, aren't legally binding BUT can signal to medical professionals that you have signed paperwork.
A tattoo is not a legally binding contract. For all the doctors know he got that tattoo years ago and has since changed his mind. Tattoos are expensive and painful to remove. A lot of people have tattoos that they regret and wish they could remove but for one reason or another can't. Doctors would feel really bad if they take a tattoo at its word only for a family member to come forward and say "oh he had an appointment next Tuesday to have that removed". Better to err on the side of caution.
a tattoo is not a legally binding document under any circumstances. you have to produce the physical advanced directive or your wishes will not be honored
I am a Jehovah witness and we have a paper called a identificación card for un baptized minors and the DPA for baptized minors and adults which says the wishes of the Jehovah witness along with no blood because we believe that blood is sacred that is carries life and a transfusion is taking life of someone else
@CAteen01 which makes no sense because donated blood is a gift from someone else given willingly to keep others alive, but hey - you have a right to your beliefs.
I'd donate blood if I could, but I can't. My blood is "tainted" by factors beyond anyone's control.
@@CAteen01why would someone in your religion refuse blood when it means losing a family member? Just curious.
I just told the hospital I wanted a DNR so they documented and whenever I go in I get a bright red DNR bracelet.
I think the worse part of this show is that these two would swap which side of the argument they were on throughout the series. He'd be on the side of following the standard procedure and not letting his personal emotions get involved and then they'd swap a couple episodes later where she was the one holding the line while he got emotional and broke procedures.
That’s why I couldn’t stand either of them or the shows insistence on trying to have them be this grand love story. They were insufferable most of the time both together and separate.
A tattoo written on your chest isn’t a legally binding document.
When the little girl came in, her expression is so funny, like she out of character and doesn’t seem to face nothing 😅
In a way that’s good, because that‘s made me realize that this is a show….even tho I know, it‘s just when you‘re too hocked on this…you’re thinking it’s real!
I Love you Dick Wolf!!!
Def agree with Dr Manning here 😭 still very sad
I have been in the DNR binder of the hospital I was in for two yrs. The agony was too much I desperately hoped for death. Eventually the staff figured somethings out and I got some better meds and different treatments. It took months, but I was able to be taken out of the binder.
Probably cause it’s too expensive for the healthcare it’s sad to choose death over life but who can afford the healthcare??
Healthcare is expensive, however at the same time, there's worse things than death.
No wonder Manning and Halstead got together... they're both overemotional and do things to serve their own feelings rather than the health of their patients.
💯 I would not want either of them as my doctor.
Agreed. 💯
Honor the patient's wishes.
I love this episode.
This...this is a man of integrity, and principle.
Ngl, if you got that tattooed on your chest. I’d say you’d mean it
Honestly, people who want not to be resuscitated should be respected in regards to their wishes
Usually isn't in a form of a tattoo...
A tattoo is Not legally binding. Anyone wanted to be non resuscitated so badly needs to know or understand that.
No matter a tattoo or not it is still an indicator maybe not by law however a patient who would accept CPR would never have DNR written on their body
If there any legal documents that the individual still stand by I agree but situation like this one need to be careful because you could be killing someone who might have second thoughts
@@Ialwaysfollowmyaims theres a difference between legal and not legal, hospitals need a writen and certified proff he is DNR otherwise they open the door for the family to sue
I have a DNR filed with my advanced directive, but I still don't trust the medical system. I do want to get a DNR tattoo. Seeing a doctor that would purposefully ignore it... That TERRIFIES me.
Then you or remaining family would sue, a tattoo isnt legally binding, thats why its being ignored in the show and in real life cases as said in court that declared anything outside of the papers as not legally binding and can only be used as a signal to look for papers without said papers it is the duty of the hospital to resuscitate, if you do feel strongly about it, have a copy of your dnr with you along with the adress and or phone number of the person you filed it with in case of emergencies, you can have a bracelet or locket with it inside or just have it in your wallet
Keep a record of that in your wallet and sign it (Dr. signature would help too), see if you can get a mini version wallet sized verified. Also if you don't want the tattoo but want to seem professional get a medical tag (like the ones people do for deadly allergies or diabetes) in case you get separated from your wallet with a phone number of either a law provider, medical provider, or social worker vouching this is what you want. The more records you carry with you the better.
If you feel strongly about it then you need to carry something on you that medical professionals can follow to find an actual DNR. If you feel strongly about it then you could even tattoo instructions on how to find your legally binding DNR on your body.
Same. 💯
There are worse things than death and not respecting a person's wishes to die is inhumane, disrespectful, reproachable, revolting, reprehensible and repugnant!
@@marissa._ Still, if in doubt, resuscitate. I'd rather save someone who wanted to die then let a person who wants to live die.
I love medical dramas-
The little without her daddy is worse😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
They both passed. They're with each other in a much better place.
Which made it so sad but shows they couldn’t be without each other
He had a bad habit of not following the wishes of the people in his care.
Is the first or second time Halstead had a heated confrontation with a DNR? He once resuscitated a mom with cancer who had a DNR, and Sharon shewed him out for it.
Natalie's just wrong this episode. I get she wants to be able to donate the girl's organs before they aren't viable, but your main objective as a doctor is to do no hrm. By following some ink on the patient's body without legal paperwork to document otherwise, you are to continue erring on the side of life. Refusing care when the patient is dying because it would benefit someone else is not the answer. You try to do what's best for all patients, yes, but you have to take priority, and the patient who is DYING and can be resuscitated is the priority in that scenario.
How do you know that's what the patient wanted though?
@@marissa._ dosnt matter, without LEGAL paperwork of some kind they are to lean on the side of preserving life. If he really wanted to not be revived he would have a DNR created for him instead of some tattoo.
@@j.yellow0190that’s the case NOW but like someone already pointed out this was not a clear cut issue and had to be determined in a court on whether things like the patients tattoo counted or not as an advanced directive or not.
Bruh they seriously just picking abd choosing to use an infants organs without any1 consent
This is crazy
Dr Halstead was in the right to not assume the tattoo was legally binding but was wrong with wanting to resuscitate despite Ms. Goodwin telling him to honor his DNR tattoo. Yes doctors swear to oath that they must not do harm, but they also shouldn't decrease quality of life of a patient. Just bc CPR is extended doesn't mean their life is gonna be the same as before coding.
Tattoos aren't legally binding, even if spelled out like that, without paperwork or the proper bracelet.
I think both of them are organ donation..
if someone wishes DNR then they MUST make sure it's known to the nearest and dearest, if there is none, then a certificate, something legally binding...on their person.
never watched this show but this doctor seems a bit ott...the poor guy already lost his wife..his daughter just died ....let him go.
Tattoos don't count, if its not on paper, signed and notarized, it's not legal.
the poor people😭
Under 50 minutes gang😊
Interestingly enough, there was a female character on The Finder that had a similar tattoo. She had daddy issues, apparently.
So let the daddy die but the girl die anyway all for organ donation wow what a hard call to ever make 😭😭😭😭😭😭
But think she doesn’t want to be without her daddy 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Natalie is a HSSSW
Why would you get that as a tattoo?
What happened to the girl?
She didn’t make it
ridiculous. the only reason he would want to be resuscitated is to be there for his daughter who is now dead. let him go so he can be with his daughter.
If in doubt, resus. If you don't have an AD on hand and signed, it doesn't matter.
wow
The girl is 2 years old. What possible use would her organs have?
Babies need organ transplants, the same as adults.
Blood too. How much are eyes worth?
Who writes these stories? Do that do research, or are they just writing weak factal emotional roilcosters for the fun of it? 😢
Firsttttttt
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