Hello frens! Thank you for joining the stream if you did 😊 This vod is getting more attention than I thought so I wanted to comment on the video. This was my first "official" stream, and there was a lot more viewers than I anticipated so in all honesty I was pretty nervous and scatterbrained 😅 So apologies for struggling to balance reading chat + giving commentary + understanding the lore, but I hope it was still entertaining to some degree. I'll be streaming at least once a week, so hopefully I'll get better at this whole live thing :) I sincerely appreciate all the support and feedback you guys gave in chat! It's really helpful and encouraging ❤ Fun stuff coming soon :D
Evidence of Quirrel passing away is his voiceline: "Plenty have come before us and most have met their grisly end, many more equipped than you and I. I'm sure they wouldn't mind were a fellow explorer to relieve them of their tools. It's a kindness really. The dead shouldn't be burdened with such things." He mentions that the dead don't need tools or weapons and that they should not be burdened with them. Him leaving his nail at the Blue Lake likely signifies he no longer wants to be burdened with it and thus wants pass away.
Since you kept talking over one of the most important explanations and then even asked being confused about it: The ending where Hornet gets trapped is pretty good, because now the infection is held forever, since Hornet became a dreamer who is located INSIDE the temple. That means no other knight can ever attempt to open the eggs like you did, since the dreamer blocking the egg gate is not outside to be found and killed.
One thing to keep in mind with the Pale King is that we only get info of him from people living after his “failed” plan, as multiple endings involve the eradication of the Radiance, the king also mainly sacrifices himself and those truly loyal to him. The dreamers all willingly sacrifice themselves, the king sacrifices his children over others, and he himself died by the void in his throne room. His death can mean ether he willingly gave himself to the void; likely to pull out character back to hollownest as we seem to be the only one to actually stop the Radiance, he could have continued to work on the void seeking a new solution, or he simply died hiding. He is not a good person or a paragon of virtue, but he did try to save his kingdom over his own survival and was trapped between making a choice he regretted or sacrificing everything he work on to the Radiance.
48:25 The lighthouse needs to be turned on because if you try to cross the abyss without its light shining over the lake, there are 'void' tentacles that rise from it and hit you. When the light shines over it though, the tentacles disappear, almost as if the light tamed the void. After that you can cross to the other side and explore. I am not sure if the void tentacles are from creatures that stay near the surface and try to snatch stuff from above, or if its simply a natural reaction that occurs when a 'living being' or maybe a being with Soul comes close to it.
Boon is a character from the hollow knight Quirrell comic. for more boon lore, consider purchasing the comic or watching Ccmaci's video where he reads aloud the Quirrell comic in his beautiful voice
You mentioned that you kinda wanted to play some more Metroidvanias, and so I really recommend the two Ori games :) Ori and the Blind Forest is the first one and it's a little older than Hollow Knight. Probably one of my all time favorite games. Ori and the Will of the Wisps is also amazing, and it took a lot of inspiration from Hollow Knight in some areas. They're a really fun playthrough and the story made me cry.
@@P1sodizeit’s because an ori game dev said they’ve never seen hollow knight before when they obviously took inspiration from hollow knight, which is fine to do, the polite thing to do is just to say yeah I took inspiration from this and that rather than lying about it.
great stream!! in the future feel free to pause more during these reactions! we’re here for ur thoughts and feelings so don’t feel bad about taking the time to insert yourself
My headcanon is that the void is just petroleum oil and those bugs were to nest on a petrol source. 😂😂 And starting are literally looks like an opening of an ant nest
Aw Dewbie youre so sweet! I loved watching your 112% video, i wish you had a cam then so i could see what facial expressions you made to go along with those demonic noises and screams in the white palace and pantheons 😂
Mossbag has tons of videos detailing other components of Hollow Knight, including the Grimm Troupe and Godhome. Speaking of Doki Doki Literature Club, it's certainly an emotional rollercoaster. Would recommend, but only if you have a strong will. Great video as always, cant wait to see more from you :D
Really wished I was in the livestream for this! It was fun seeing you try to understand everything fully. The beginning it’s talking about the civilization of each bug to give you more depth of them. But you understood most of it. Also, 10000% you can beat P5. Your strongest skill is your determination and perseverance you have to beat the bosses. Do not fear it tho! You can do it, and if you think you need help. (Hint, try to do some binding for p1-p4 and look around for something new to happen) Anndd… rip Menderbug 😔 (and quirrel)
I KNEW I was going to miss it!!!!!!!!! well i wanted to give you some names of another games i love: Portal 2, Little Nightmares, Mirror's Edge, GRIS, LIMBO, Leo's Fortune HD edition. it's a mixed list but these are worth playing, pls check these out...!
Have u played celeste? If u love platforming in games it has THE BEST controls in any 2D and prob even 3D game ever. Plus the music and story’s amazing
Don’t worry, Quirrel isn’t dead. He’s just retiring to live in the spirit’s glade. We don’t see him for the rest of the game because he’s napping, same as Cornifer. Quirrel travels as much as Cornifer and fights a jellyfish, so he can nap for a long time too
Unfortunately I cannot. However, Cloth provides more support to my argument. She says she’s ready to move on, and she still came back as a spirit. Quirrel did not. If Quirrel was dead he’d be a ghost by the blue lake
If you want other good metroidvanias I'd recommend Ori and the blind forest and Ori and the will of the wisps. They are both very good and the first has more of a focus on movement than combat and the later has improved combat and is overall a lot more similar to Hollow Knight. They have a bash ability that is one of the best and fun movement mechanics ever.
Nooo i missed the stream Anyways heres sum games u shud try out: Cuphead - Hollow Knight but everythings basically a boss fight and enndless suffering Shovel Knight - Hollow Knight but shovel Stardew Valley - A farming sim with a pinch of bloodshed Dead cells - Cuphead with actual endless suffering UNDERTALE - more story and emotion and more!!!! It was an emotion rollercoaster for and id like to see you suffer against funny bone man DeltaRune - Undertale but modern (and nother universe)
since ur done with the game heres a lil ol game that i think u might like its called grounded u are shrunk down to the sice of an ant and u must survive the harsh climate of a backyard
The video you're watching has a lot of sarcasm in it, but the impression I got was that you were taking it all at face value. Not sure if that's just how you present yourself, or if you missed the sarcasm?
@@JadenTheUhGuy We can't know yet. Also I'm fine with everybody's opinions. But yes, it has been 4 months since I wrote that comment and I'm not that sure anymore about my own opinions.
To open the room with Knight’s statue, you need to see the Radiance in fifth pantheon, and then you can train beating her in Hall of Gods. Once you kill her in Hall of Gods, the statue of the Knight appears in the bottom, in the left corner of Hall of Gods. Beating the Radiance in the Hall of Gods with different difficulty opens another appearances of the Knight’s statue.
Something I think Mossbag didn't think about in the section talking about if the Hollow Knight (that is the player character) is truly hollow is that it IS... it has no will of it's own. Because it's being controlled by YOU. By the player. The Knight isn't moving around of it's own free will. You dictate it's every action and interaction. You make the choices for it. The Knight truly is Hollow, with no will of it's own, the moment it steps into Hallownest. The only actions it takes on it's own are those at the very start of the game, when it approaches the city. The moment it's within the bounds of influence, you take over. It's mind is blank and without memory. The knight is truly hollow, with no will of it's own.
Is there... Any evidence that the player is canon? Like I'm being serious here. Undertale literally has canon save mechanics and people still argue if we are canon. The only game I recall where it's certain is OneShot, and the player is called out explicitly as a god and has to manipulate files to progress.
It has no will but it has a purpose it acts out. Almost like a robot. A robot follows code without will. It does whatever to finish it's purpose and what it is made to do
@@JadenTheUhGuy Yeah... that the explanation, but is there... Proof? Like things that point to that being the case, like any duologue saying it's controlled by a higher force. It's okay if there isn't, head canon is head canon, but you shouldn't speak so confidently if that's the case.
I'm sorry DewbiDoo, but i noticed that throughout the whole video, you seemed pretty confused about the info and content that was being shared. The fact is that, if you notice, your confusion was purely from the fact that you weren't paying attention or you were talking while he was explaining. If you really wanna understand HK's lore, please finish the whole game, pay more attention and stop making assumptions while watching. Just an advice, love your content.
IF YOUR LOOKING FOR AN AMAZING METROIDVANIA THEN PLAY THE GAME CALLED the last faith It's an amazing METROIDVANIA with great story telling great gameplay smooth controls and cool boss fights definitely worth a play and would be an amazing let's play type of video or stream 😁
I did not realize that it was an inside joke, and I do thank you for bringing it to my attention. Now, it seems as though you are more frustrated, no offense. So just try not to get so defensive next time, and once again, no offense; if it helps.
Hello frens! Thank you for joining the stream if you did 😊 This vod is getting more attention than I thought so I wanted to comment on the video. This was my first "official" stream, and there was a lot more viewers than I anticipated so in all honesty I was pretty nervous and scatterbrained 😅 So apologies for struggling to balance reading chat + giving commentary + understanding the lore, but I hope it was still entertaining to some degree. I'll be streaming at least once a week, so hopefully I'll get better at this whole live thing :) I sincerely appreciate all the support and feedback you guys gave in chat! It's really helpful and encouraging ❤ Fun stuff coming soon :D
It was perfect. Perfect, everything down to the last minute details
Can u do a hollow knight charm tierlist plzzzzz 🥺🥺
Evidence of Quirrel passing away is his voiceline:
"Plenty have come before us and most have met their grisly end, many more equipped than you and I.
I'm sure they wouldn't mind were a fellow explorer to relieve them of their tools. It's a kindness really. The dead shouldn't be burdened with such things."
He mentions that the dead don't need tools or weapons and that they should not be burdened with them. Him leaving his nail at the Blue Lake likely signifies he no longer wants to be burdened with it and thus wants pass away.
Nah, he's off partying with Menderbug, I'm sure.
@@elias.t”mender bug is fucking dead!”:(
@eagleblaze02 I guess that implies that both are the case
Since you kept talking over one of the most important explanations and then even asked being confused about it: The ending where Hornet gets trapped is pretty good, because now the infection is held forever, since Hornet became a dreamer who is located INSIDE the temple. That means no other knight can ever attempt to open the eggs like you did, since the dreamer blocking the egg gate is not outside to be found and killed.
7:19 the reason for why its mostly complete is that it does not explain everything
The Hollow Knight is your full sibling and Hornet is your half sister
And hornet is specifically called "gendered child" since all of the sibling (including the knight) are genderless
@ that is why I referred to The Hollow Knight by calling them your sibling and Hornet as your half-sister
One thing to keep in mind with the Pale King is that we only get info of him from people living after his “failed” plan, as multiple endings involve the eradication of the Radiance, the king also mainly sacrifices himself and those truly loyal to him.
The dreamers all willingly sacrifice themselves, the king sacrifices his children over others, and he himself died by the void in his throne room.
His death can mean ether he willingly gave himself to the void; likely to pull out character back to hollownest as we seem to be the only one to actually stop the Radiance, he could have continued to work on the void seeking a new solution, or he simply died hiding.
He is not a good person or a paragon of virtue, but he did try to save his kingdom over his own survival and was trapped between making a choice he regretted or sacrificing everything he work on to the Radiance.
if you pause the video at 6:19 when the blue document comes up, you will see some *very interesting and insightful writing*
How to eat ass
Thank you that was very informative
48:25 The lighthouse needs to be turned on because if you try to cross the abyss without its light shining over the lake, there are 'void' tentacles that rise from it and hit you. When the light shines over it though, the tentacles disappear, almost as if the light tamed the void. After that you can cross to the other side and explore. I am not sure if the void tentacles are from creatures that stay near the surface and try to snatch stuff from above, or if its simply a natural reaction that occurs when a 'living being' or maybe a being with Soul comes close to it.
Boon is a character from the hollow knight Quirrell comic. for more boon lore, consider purchasing the comic or watching Ccmaci's video where he reads aloud the Quirrell comic in his beautiful voice
Definitely watch ccmaci's video so good
I've been meaning to watch mossbag's lore complete lore video for a while and this gave me an excuse to finally do that, thanks lol
I can just imagine he had an exhausting experience replacing his router that scarred his soul forever.
You mentioned that you kinda wanted to play some more Metroidvanias, and so I really recommend the two Ori games :)
Ori and the Blind Forest is the first one and it's a little older than Hollow Knight. Probably one of my all time favorite games. Ori and the Will of the Wisps is also amazing, and it took a lot of inspiration from Hollow Knight in some areas. They're a really fun playthrough and the story made me cry.
Basicly more hollow knight, dont know why people (the hollow knight community) hate it
@@P1sodize I've never seen any hate for Ori from HK comm
@@P1sodizeit’s because an ori game dev said they’ve never seen hollow knight before when they obviously took inspiration from hollow knight, which is fine to do, the polite thing to do is just to say yeah I took inspiration from this and that rather than lying about it.
_Ori and the Will of the Wisps_ is one of my favorite Metroidvania's ever. The game is an amazing work of art.
@@hylianglitchmobber7570 Man I wish I could play it but my laptop almost cooked itself with the Blind Forest
hi dewbi!! i was inspired by your video on pure vessel and I finally found the courage to tackle him and finally beat him 7th try, thanks :D
Now all you have to do is join the silksong cult
great stream!! in the future feel free to pause more during these reactions! we’re here for ur thoughts and feelings so don’t feel bad about taking the time to insert yourself
The best lore vid of all time
ah yes, it is always a wonderful sight to see someone react to my fav game of all time's lore,
I keep repeating this, and I do again: the opening of this video (until the video title shows up) is just beautiful.
My headcanon is that the void is just petroleum oil and those bugs were to nest on a petrol source. 😂😂 And starting are literally looks like an opening of an ant nest
Aw Dewbie youre so sweet! I loved watching your 112% video, i wish you had a cam then so i could see what facial expressions you made to go along with those demonic noises and screams in the white palace and pantheons 😂
Mossbag has tons of videos detailing other components of Hollow Knight, including the Grimm Troupe and Godhome. Speaking of Doki Doki Literature Club, it's certainly an emotional rollercoaster. Would recommend, but only if you have a strong will. Great video as always, cant wait to see more from you :D
Really wished I was in the livestream for this! It was fun seeing you try to understand everything fully.
The beginning it’s talking about the civilization of each bug to give you more depth of them. But you understood most of it.
Also, 10000% you can beat P5. Your strongest skill is your determination and perseverance you have to beat the bosses. Do not fear it tho! You can do it, and if you think you need help. (Hint, try to do some binding for p1-p4 and look around for something new to happen)
Anndd… rip Menderbug 😔 (and quirrel)
I KNEW I was going to miss it!!!!!!!!!
well i wanted to give you some names of another games i love:
Portal 2,
Little Nightmares,
Mirror's Edge,
GRIS,
LIMBO,
Leo's Fortune HD edition.
it's a mixed list but these are worth playing, pls check these out...!
Boon is part of the quirell comics
NOOO I MISSED The Livestrem
Same and I’m upset too
6:19 "How to eat ass" 💀
Dewbiiii.... Definitelly playy the ori gamess! Youll love it and ill die to be able to watch u!!! 😊😊😊
Yes, dewbi if you can read it pls do it
1:26:42 don't try to deny it.
2:56 holy crap DewbiDoo said holy crap
Have u played celeste? If u love platforming in games it has THE BEST controls in any 2D and prob even 3D game ever. Plus the music and story’s amazing
Don’t worry, Quirrel isn’t dead. He’s just retiring to live in the spirit’s glade. We don’t see him for the rest of the game because he’s napping, same as Cornifer. Quirrel travels as much as Cornifer and fights a jellyfish, so he can nap for a long time too
Pls tell me cloth be sleeping to
Pls tell me cloth be sleeping to
Unfortunately I cannot. However, Cloth provides more support to my argument. She says she’s ready to move on, and she still came back as a spirit. Quirrel did not. If Quirrel was dead he’d be a ghost by the blue lake
Thank you for more questions than answers
Dewbi's confusion about the lore just goes to show how amazing the world building is, and this is an INDIE game.
If you want other good metroidvanias I'd recommend Ori and the blind forest and Ori and the will of the wisps. They are both very good and the first has more of a focus on movement than combat and the later has improved combat and is overall a lot more similar to Hollow Knight. They have a bash ability that is one of the best and fun movement mechanics ever.
The lore is great!
I cant believe I'm watching DewbiDoo react to a video with swearing in it. This is great lol XD
Nooo i missed the stream
Anyways heres sum games u shud try out:
Cuphead - Hollow Knight but everythings basically a boss fight and enndless suffering
Shovel Knight - Hollow Knight but shovel
Stardew Valley - A farming sim with a pinch of bloodshed
Dead cells - Cuphead with actual endless suffering
UNDERTALE - more story and emotion and more!!!! It was an emotion rollercoaster for and id like to see you suffer against funny bone man
DeltaRune - Undertale but modern (and nother universe)
Garfield! 10:45
since ur done with the game heres a lil ol game that i think u might like
its called grounded
u are shrunk down to the sice of an ant and u must survive the harsh climate of a backyard
The video you're watching has a lot of sarcasm in it, but the impression I got was that you were taking it all at face value. Not sure if that's just how you present yourself, or if you missed the sarcasm?
what
Stop at 6:19, the blue slide
You're welcome.
Bun is from the quirrel comic
I totally forgot VaatiVidya voiced the Menderbug🙊
I missed it nooooooooooooo
I think that Silksong is before Hollow knight in the timeline.
Pretty sure its been confirmed that it's after, but not tied to a specific ending. It's been 5 years, might be wrong.
It takes place after lol
@@JadenTheUhGuy We can't know yet. Also I'm fine with everybody's opinions. But yes, it has been 4 months since I wrote that comment and I'm not that sure anymore about my own opinions.
@@Guywithaname199 fair enough, I am quite late to the party
To open the room with Knight’s statue, you need to see the Radiance in fifth pantheon, and then you can train beating her in Hall of Gods. Once you kill her in Hall of Gods, the statue of the Knight appears in the bottom, in the left corner of Hall of Gods. Beating the Radiance in the Hall of Gods with different difficulty opens another appearances of the Knight’s statue.
FINALLY
another place to check for lore on hollow knight could be channels like ccmai (i forgor if thats his name)
Steven Segal cameo!!!!!
Something I think Mossbag didn't think about in the section talking about if the Hollow Knight (that is the player character) is truly hollow is that it IS... it has no will of it's own. Because it's being controlled by YOU. By the player. The Knight isn't moving around of it's own free will. You dictate it's every action and interaction. You make the choices for it. The Knight truly is Hollow, with no will of it's own, the moment it steps into Hallownest. The only actions it takes on it's own are those at the very start of the game, when it approaches the city. The moment it's within the bounds of influence, you take over. It's mind is blank and without memory.
The knight is truly hollow, with no will of it's own.
Is there... Any evidence that the player is canon? Like I'm being serious here. Undertale literally has canon save mechanics and people still argue if we are canon. The only game I recall where it's certain is OneShot, and the player is called out explicitly as a god and has to manipulate files to progress.
It has no will but it has a purpose it acts out. Almost like a robot. A robot follows code without will. It does whatever to finish it's purpose and what it is made to do
@@JadenTheUhGuy Yeah... that the explanation, but is there... Proof? Like things that point to that being the case, like any duologue saying it's controlled by a higher force. It's okay if there isn't, head canon is head canon, but you shouldn't speak so confidently if that's the case.
I'm sorry DewbiDoo, but i noticed that throughout the whole video, you seemed pretty confused about the info and content that was being shared. The fact is that, if you notice, your confusion was purely from the fact that you weren't paying attention or you were talking while he was explaining. If you really wanna understand HK's lore, please finish the whole game, pay more attention and stop making assumptions while watching. Just an advice, love your content.
Please play the Ori games you would love them!
Bro is handsome
You might be my new favorite youtuber also you should try terraria
IF YOUR LOOKING FOR AN AMAZING METROIDVANIA THEN PLAY THE GAME CALLED the last faith It's an amazing METROIDVANIA with great story telling great gameplay smooth controls and cool boss fights definitely worth a play and would be an amazing let's play type of video or stream 😁
Well, this was a slog to get through...
I MISSED IT 😭
Love it
Do you play the piano?
You should check out Hades, I think you'll love it
i really recomend blasphemous 2 if you wanna try other metriodvanias
Silksong Not definitely a sequel
I think the collector was trying to to protect the grubs from their father
Ples also review hollow knight memes
hello
Lady you should pause the video when you start speaking
OH NOOOO YOU NOT 2D??!!!
You look like rage elixir soo much go check him out 😂
The fact that she calls the knight "deer bone"annoys the heck out of, me especially after she finds out what the community generally calls it.
It’s not that deep
First off I'm not mad just annoyed. Second the fact that you felt the need to reply shows you're not any better. So to that I say it ain't that deep.
It's basically an inside joke on her channel, she called it Deerbone from the start, and she'll call it Deerbone until the end. Get over it
I did not realize that it was an inside joke, and I do thank you for bringing it to my attention. Now, it seems as though you are more frustrated, no offense. So just try not to get so defensive next time, and once again, no offense; if it helps.
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