I like everything about the new Rogue and think Nissan did a great job. I currently have a 2015 Nissan Rogue SL with 57k miles and I absolutely love it. Personally it still feels, looks and drives like a premium vehicle. My 2014 Nissan Versa SV has 70k miles and so far has been a great reliable car.
I just got a 2021 Rogue SL AWD & I love it!!! Traded in my 2017 Highlander and have ZERO regrets! I use my Rogue as work vehicle and carry a fair amount of tools and a folding ladder. Plenty of space and the handling is great!
Nice job, Alex. I like your (and Sofyan’s) reviews over everyone else’s by a long way; you’re straight to the point, no nonsense, and provide significant detail on things I think most drivers should know about (especially cabin noise and ride quality). One thing, though: when talking about the RAV4, no one bothers to mention the important point that the memory seats feature does NOT extend to the external mirrors. I had to learn this after purchasing my RAV4 last year, and it still eats at me. So does the 2021 Rogue Platinum you reviewed here have memory seats and mirrors? Keep up the great work, and I’ll keep watching!
Thanks. Great review. I appreciate all of the details you went though. You helped me confirm my decision between the two. I test drove the Rouge and I was instantly in love. No need to test the other.
Toyota & Honda are getting too complacent with their quality control. The premium they charge for their reliability is fading. Not such a good deal anymore, just living off their past reliability records.
@@CRVgarage Most Toyota owners don't want their autos to last only 100,000 miles though. They want 200,000+ miles which is why at 100,000 they have a lot of resale value (since they have a lot of life left in them).
@@James-il3tq Very few people who buy new vehicles keep them for 100,000+ miles, though. The average American new-car buyer buys a new car every 4-6 years depending on the size of the vehicle (larger vehicles tend to be kept longer). That is to say that very few people who buy the Rogue and Rav4 new will own them much longer than their powertrain warranties (5-year, 60,000-miles for both vehicles). Long term reliability mostly only applies to used car buyers as they are the ones who will be driving the vehicles when they reach and exceed 100,000 miles and will do so without the original factory powertrain warranty, meaning that any repairs will be comping out of their own pockets.
@@dave3682 I agree. However, you do have a smaller percentage of drivers who have long daily commutes and who also travel state-to-state. That's not to mention uber and delivery drivers. Those people, including me, will easily put 200,000 miles in 4-5 years. At least during that time they want a reliable vehicle that won't have major repairs, nor will it have multiple annoying electronic bugs.
I still keep coming back to the CVT issue with the Rogue. I understand that a hybrid Rogue is returning soon... I hope that doesn't use a CVT, but instead a planetary gear setup similar to the RAV4. I'm definitely impressed by the new Rogue otherwise.
Would really like to see how the RAV4 Limited interior actually looks/feels compared to this Rogue, which is very impressive IMO. I think in the mid-cycle refresh for the RAV, Toyota needs to improve some of the features availability and also add some sound deadening.
Rav4 all day for me. Nissan’s history of unreliability just worries me way too much when it comes to spending this amount of money. I hope the Rogue does really well though- it seems like Nissan is really trying to up their game.
New Nissans typically come with a 3-year (and extendable to 5-yr if u wanna pay them a bit more) combined service and parts warranty Nick, so don’t worry.
@nick the warranty covers that . The cvt is a lot better than before .. Any one who buys a new rav 4 instead of a new rogue .. should face the reality you are buying a car with a 2 year design vs a new one.
Just purchased a 2021 Nissan Rogue Platinum. Absolutely nothing to complain about. This car is light years above the RAV4 in terms of luxury and fit and finish. Super premium feel, awesome gas mileage, at a great price. Love it!!!
Very good comparison. I also thought the RAV felt rather tight, and Nissan has some of the most comfortable seats in any vehicle. I do wish they offered an efficient hybrid. I think the Ariya may sell well.
That's what I'm holding out for, I'd like to see the reviews for the Ariya and how it's going to compare to all the other electric crossovers coming to market soon. The last ICE daily driver I'm going to buy is sitting in my driveway.
One has a cvt that’s been nothing but trouble for the past decade. The other is known for being reliable. It’s going to take a bit more than an inch of rear leg room to make up.
To be fair, it looks like Nissan has finally got their shit together. The cvt lawsuits have dried up with their latest generation of cvts. Having said as much, I'd still wait a few more years before I'd buy one, just to be sure, but I'd have no problems leasing one in the meantime.
Still driving my 2010 Nissan Altima 2.5 SL with the first generation CVT--the one that doesn't have the phony stepped gears. Plenty of power. No problems. The key? Drive it hard, drive it often.
Get over it. In the next 5 years most 4 cylinders/hybrids will be running CVTs. I don't care for them either but as long as your not taking your CVT vehicle to the track you'll be fine. Reliability is way up and moms don't care as long as it's a smooth ride. Also conventional transmissions aren't bulletproof either.
Outside of the Hybrid, it just seems that you get more car for the money with the Rogue. It seems it has almost matched the CX-5s interior in regards to materials and is definitely at the top in tech probably along side the new Tucson. Interior space is still on the top end of the class And the driving dynamics seem to be much better as well. But the assumptions on reliability and price may not hold true as they have in the past. There hasn’t been much noise about the latest batch of Nissan CVTs and that’s essentially been the main cause of concern with Nissans. And Nissan is still aiming to sell with less discounts as before. I’m sure there will still be some, but the level of quality and the competitive pricing seems to be another approach to keeping discounts at bay. Overall it seems Nissan is willing to sacrifice volume for higher transaction prices.
Cuz it cheap as the resale value, after buying you lose more money on it fast . My wife have the 2017 SV. Bought it 27k, after 3 years of driving with 36k miles. That shit was worth 13k, we lease it . So it didn't hurt our pocket .
@@kromahj Don’t doubt it, but you’re talking about a 2017. This is an all new generation. Of course I know resale value isn’t going to change over night and will depend on it’s popularity but it definitely could and should improve with the new generation. Overall it’s a very solid product and much improved over the last generation.
I had a 2014 grand cherokee one thing I loathed was the joystick shifter knob. Toyota is always behind in interiors and features because their drivetrains and reliability are their main selling points.
Very nice review of both cars! Very Informative. Just one thing about the Rogues rear seats tho. There is a slight recline. You can push the seats back and it can lock onto one more level of recline. It's not much... We are talking inches but just figured ild mention it. I didn't know about it until I was playing with the seats in my rogue after someone pointed it out and I wanted to see if it's true. Anyways great video!
As of late, some Toyota models like Camry, RAV4, Highlander are made too cheaply. Too much cost cutting in materials and fasteners in American made models.
The rav4 is extremely popular in NYC. I’m assuming because roads are horrible and the plastic cladding is a lifesaver when parking on the street because many jerks park by “feel”.
The rogue (can't speak for first gen from definitely second gen onwards) have always been more premium than both the CRV and Rav 4. Soft touch plastic in the front for the Nissan compared to Toyota and Hondas with hard plastics, more comfortable seats (the Toyota's last gen rav4 had horrible back seats. Having owned my rogue for 5+years, I'm still loving it
I know you can't really do this with new cars, but I wish somebody would evaluate interior build quality instead of how nice it looks. I've had a Honda, Toyota, and Nissan. The Honda (the oldest model) was cheap hard plastic and put together like crap, but it never rattled and held up perfectly. The Nissan was the nicest, but the dash fell apart several times (felt kept just falling out of junctions) and the shifter trim eventually broke and jammed the shifter. The Toyota was assembled like some kind of tank, every wire was bolted down and the trim was tight, but somehow *everything* rattled. I would find they put felt everywhere except like the one spot they should have.
Since compact cars aren't typically sought after for performance, I'd say interior quality is extremely important. Also, Nissan makes some of the best small car exteriors outside of Mazda. The New Sentra and Versa look way better than Yaris, Fit, Elantra, Corolla, etc ... plus they tend to offer tons of excellent safety tech. Nissan does more than just great interiors
I wonder if shrinking the interior of the rav was part of a plan to put it more in the middle of the C-HR and the Highlander ; the rav4 traditionally didn’t have a smaller option but honestly the CHR shouldn’t be an option for anyone, nor the trax, or hrv, or encore , or anything even like it they are all garbage
Alex on Autos: What’s your honest opinion. Nissans powertrain reliability with this new Rogue. Would you roll the dice? Have they improved their CVT? I’m currently in the market. I’ve got a 6yr old and my wife and I are looking to have another child. I currently have a leased 2018 RAV4 hybrid that I’m turning in at end of the month, and I don’t want to go with the new RAV4 due to the interior dimensions and higher cost. I’m currently trying to decide between the new Rogue SV trim or a 2020 Ford Hybrid Escape. I like the mgps with the Escape, but I’m willing to sacrifice some of that for more cargo space. Either way, I’m financing the next vehicle, so it’s a longer term investment.
I had a 2010 Altima coupe with the CVT it was just boring it was the only thing I disliked about it. It gave me ZERO issues and I owned it for 10 years. But I also rent a lot of cars and had a RAV4 for 2 weeks it was garbage, merging on the highway was damn right scary. Everything inside it felt hollow and cheap, I had a Rouge for 2 weeks and it just felt way nicer but it was gutless too. I’ve had the Mazda CX 30 and 50 and there gutless too. It’s like you pop the hood and go ummmmm where’s the engine. Long live the V6 engines, these 4 bangers are just awful to drive.
I normally look for reliability and fuel efficacy over other stuff. My 2001 Corolla has about 143,000 miles on it and it is as sure as the sun rise and set. The only time I had problem with it and had to almost do a major repair is when I try to modify it to make it more fuel efficient, with is system call an HHO kit which also turn out to be a scam. Just regular oil, oil filter and air filter change, is the only maintenance I do out side of accidents I had that need to be repair. My only annoyance with it, is only on my once yearly trip Brooklyn NY to Montreal QC. I just take to long to shift when I am going up dose steep mounting hills and my highway speed start to drop off real quickly, with my foot to the metal. So I normally gun it before the up hill and only worry I do not get pull over by a State trooper 🤣🤣
I like the internal and external look of the Rogue better. But I want to see what the reliability and quality will be like. Just wish the Rogue came as a hybrid. I want a hybrid though. Really wish Subaru Forester came as a proper hybrid. Subaru has a connection with Toyota now. It would be great if the Forester could use the RAV4 Hybrid system. Then it is a no brainer to me.
I think its great that Nissan has upped their game with the new Rogue. It looks great and has many upgraded features. This keeps the manufacturers progressively making better vehicles for the consumer. I would still choose the Limited Rav4 Hybrid over the platinum Rogue. I would rather have my money in a Toyota over Nissan just because of the reliability and resale. Thank you for a very well done review!
Wow. The Nissan is a great vehicle. I don't know how many times you preferred the different features of the Rogue, but it was a bunch. If not for the hybrid option, the Rogue would have totally kicked the Toyota's rear. Way to go Nissan.
I drove the Rav4, Subaru Forester, and the Hyundai Sante Fe. The Sante Fe was by far the best of the three. Will it zoom 0-60, no. Will it keep up with traffic, yes. Will it go the speed limit on the interstate, yes. What more do you need in power? It is more roomy than the other two. I am getting 26 mpg in town and 31 to 34 mpg on the highway. Beside that it was a better deal.
I am not sure why Alex shuns from mentioning the elephant in the room - CR-V Hybrid. It has better room than both the Rav and Rogue. It's mechanical AWD handles better than both. Its fuel economy is not so bad (35mpg). It's cargo capacity is the best. So what's the problem?
I love the rogue! But the CVT worries me. After the warranty is over and I have over 30k miles on it that engine is MY PROBLEM. Nissan needs to offer a longer warranty‘s for free!!! Like some of its competitors
Nissan has a 5year/60K mile warranty. The fact that you're insinuating this car will have problems around 30k miles is simply untrue and if it were Nissan warranty claims would be astronomical. NHTSA would have to conduct an investigation as well.
@@truckercowboyed2638 I mean long warranties like 10yr. But The one you you have is great though but I would literally would have to travel completely out my area to find a dealership that offers it
@@trent7080 no not at all. I’m a Nissan fan boy and I know there cvt are crap! If you go on their USA Twitter under replies you will see so many comments about customers having problems. My Nissan Altima has already had two recalls for 2020. That’s ridiculous. CVT are Nissan‘s biggest issue. Its sucks. Not to be rude but I feel like I spoke to you before, on another video about nissan. I remember the picture of the African flags. You love to bring up the NHTSA cause it the only fact you have. you don’t use no other sources even though other ppl also admit to having problems with them. You the type of person that if you someone thought to be great but they turned out to be a murderer/pedöphile you would justify them is still being a great person because of your own personal feelings. Nissan has problems Nissan has problems Nissan has problems. The problems are astronomical. Once again the problems are astronomical. I need you to except a fact. It is very weird that you would even say something like “ insult the vehicle” I hope Nissan is paying you for supporting them even though the facts about their CVT are very much legitimate.
Informative and concise review. Thank you. But seems the Forester (which you like.chose above all others in 2019) isn't mentioned at all. Even in the length chart. Any reason?
Not sure if Scotty K would approve of Nissan’s CVT. If you don’t mind the feel of CVT’s and only plan to keep the CUV within the warranty period then this Nissan appears to be a good choice, the interior is certainly nicer.
I agree with comment on interior of RAV. That said, if you want something that will run forever, there's not much else to be said. I have one. It's like spending all day with your sister.
I don't care for rav4 but it looks best in XSE trim with the two-tone paint. I'd say the best looking in the segment with that configuration. Otherwise, I'd say the Nissan looks better
I've driven the 2020 Murano and Maxima. I hate CVTs. All I'll say is drive it before you knock it. In the Murano, Nissan made a very luxurious feeling with the CVT; in the Maxima, the CVT actually felt very sporty. I never thought those words would've come out of my mouth. Again....try it before you knock it.
99% of buyers don't know nor care about what a CVT is. I've seriously never met a non-enthusiast who care about anything other than "it's an automatic."
@@kevman949 Yes. Its just like zillion speed automatics. How many non-car types have any clue how many gears their transmissions have because for most people it is irrelevant.
CVTs in general are fine. It’s who makes them is what we re concerned about If the RAV4 had a regular CVT I wouldn’t be worried because Toyota makes good CVTs. There haven’t been any reported issues on the corolla CVT
Own two rav4’s for reliability only. Had a rogue as a rental car for a month and loved it. Much better driving than rav4 but it all came down to reliability to me. I’ve had Nissans before and at the 3 year mark things started to go downhill quickly.
It’s the same with the Altima as well, it’s interior is nicer and it drives better than the Camry. That being said I’d always pick the Camry just due to reliability
The Nissan Rouge is in need looking much better and the inside, is Primmum indeed. But the RAV4 Hybrid is still the number 1 pick for me. Reasons are Toyota reliability; Fuel efficiency; Higher towing capacity, even do it is unlikely I will need to tow anything, but it good to know it capable just incase you every have a need to. I love the big rotary knobs, and I rather the one piece rear cargo floor cover then the two piece of the Rouge.
Alex, Happy New Year to you, Team A on A and all your SUBSCRIBERS. How about a RAV4 Hybrid the #size of a Rogue or CR-V? Please pass that message along to Akio Toyoda the next time you see him.
Besides back seat room being lacking in the RAV as you point out, the front seating space is also less than the prior version(pre 2019), At 6'3" I am tall, but not NBA tall and the driver legroom is no longer sufficient in the current model(head room is just marginal now). Plus with the driver's seat back as far as it will go I and looking at the widened B pillar when looking to the side. Even front facing child seats would suffer as it is tight with legroom for the grandkids in my 2016 RAV sticking out from their car seats - even if I move teh front seat up some. Highlander amazingly isn't that much better. Thus I recently ordered a Telluride to get the roomier front and rear legroom with a usable third row to boot. I got the 2016 RAV because of it's roominess for a compact and wish they hadn't shrunk the seating space. Sure would like to fit in a Prime! Quicker AND more fuel efficient.
I love cars, trucks and suv”s with startup tone. But when I heard your introduction to your reviews. I thought why not use your introduction video tones for start up tones in vehicles. I honestly think I’ll be doing this in my vehicle. So calming and pleasant love it.
For NA solution, manufactures need a master switch, under the hood, to turn off all the electronics, except for doors and ignition. Given how efficient and durable natural aspired engine have become, a 10+ ownerships can be easily achievable if corroded electronics is taken out of the equation.
I live with my mom and sister and my cx5 is just perfect. Took it to Nova Scotia from Toronto with all the stuff we needed for that trip and turned out pretty well and I got really great mileage.
@@midoriyaizuku4403 ...except for price, features per trim, passenger and cargo room, rear seat access, standard safety features, standard touchscreen size, and availability of a fully-digital guage-cluster... The Rav4 wins in the powertrain and efficiency departments, but the Rogue is superior in just about every other measurable aspect. In other words, buyers will have to choose between the longevity and available performance/efficiency of the Rav4 or the superior price, technology, safety, and comfort of the Rogue.
Would choose neither; the Rouge is too polarizing and the CVT is suspect, and the RAV4 has less soul than a kitchen appliance and the interior feels cheap on anything but the top trim. Would rather take the Mazda CX-5.
The rav4 is nice but the rogue seems to be much nicer. I noticed the rogue has a real time tpms where the rav4 does not. Also my wireless charger in the rav4 doesn’t work for my iPhone of galaxy. I wonder if the rogue’s remote engine start shuts off when you enter the vehicle. It’s super annoying on the rav4.
I would be considering rogue, but the shifter seems silly. RAV4, like many vehicles, has a center console thats too wide and gives me a claustrophobic feel. No wiggle room. Just my 2 cents. 😊
Hello Nissan and Toyota!?! Put the lock buttons next to the freaking door handle!! It’s such a pain to not be able to just feel on the side of the door to find the lock and end up rolling down the window!
Indicated 26mpg Nissan vs 35 mpg Toyota hybrid. Ok, the Nissan has some interior niceties, but considering the mission of these vehicles, it’s hybrid all the way. (Also: my escape awd hybrid is at 39mpg average at ~5500 miles, and that’s including cold weather driving that Alex doesn’t have.)
RAV4 wins in predicted longevity, powertrain choice, and available powertrain performance and efficiency. Rogue wins in price, safety, technology, space, and comfort. In short, the RAV4 is better under the hood, the Rogue is better everywhere else.
Man... I just can't take these videos where you have a Nissan in them, seriously. I don't care how premium the damned interior feels. When I am stranded on the side of the road, sitting waiting for the tow truck in a nicer interior, is no compensation. - All around, best choice, CRV, whatever trim you want (Price for features, the EX-L seems best value). - Best reliability, RAV4, whatever trim you want. - Best choice if you need towing and don't want a large SUV, CX-5, whatever trim you want. - Best choice if you need space, size and towing without going to a truck sized vehicle, Highlander. (All of the above have better reliability than Nissan) When you are spending the kind of money that goes out the door on a loaded or nearly loaded vehicle in this class, you can't ignore long term reliability track records. I get that you are, like several other car reviewers, trying to stick to what is on the window sticker but come the hell on. NOTHING from Nissan or Infinity is at all in the same overall quality realm as a Toyota. So you go buy a Nissan, you replace the transmission at least once under warranty, then you can't get rid of the thing to save your life? Did you get it more for the financing rate you could get? You buy a car to buy a car. You should NOT be buying a finance package that comes with a free car.
You’re a typical hater, the Rogue offers the best value on the segment, this and the CX-5 offers the best quality and refinement, the technology of the Rogue is better, the newest CVTs are a lot improved with good quality and response. Rogue is an intelligent choice in the segment.
I would wait a few years to buy a Rogue, reliability is a big question mark right now. That being said, Nissan did a fantastic job on this generations Rogue. It is way roomier and unpscale inside than the Rav. But there’s one other small suv that’s pretty darn good, with a upscale interior and very roomy , the Honda CR-V. It should be redesigned for 2022.
@@rafaelg9016 He is not a hater. I have been stranded in a brand new Rogue rental. I know many people who had transmission problems with their Nissan cars. And my mechanic friend who works for Nissan tells me never to buy a Nissan unless its a Truck or GTR. You cannot deny the masses who say the same thing about Nissans CVT reliability. Nissan needs to abandon the CVT idea. Their cars was once very reliable. I had an early 90's Nissan Maxima that lasted 200,000+ miles but that came with a 5 speed Auto.
I made the mistake in testing of a Nissan rogue with my wife. Now my wife wants to get rid of our Durango we’ve only had for three years to get a Nissan Rogue. It’s a very nice car but I don’t know if I’m ready to get rid of the capability of the Durango
For a 2019 designed vehicle The Rav4 already looks abit dated.. I'm seen 2019 Kai that still looks fresh in comparison plus used they are relatively cheap and offer similar warranty used as a new Toyota
These is the first time a I am hearing about RAV4 Toyota, Rouge Nissan, CRV Honda, CX5 Mazda reviews. Guys buy a Corolla Toyota for $20,000, If you need AWD then buy a comfortable car, all these cars are just about the same size. Comfortable is the main goal and durability. Toyota hold the value, last longer, Nissan in second place. I haven't decide which one I will buy yet but so fur I am putting Rough Nissan on my list first. Comfortability, durability and look. I need an all AWD and use it as a working or taxi vehicle. Thanks for your service 🤣😂
Here's wishing every viewer of yours a very happy, healthy, safe, and prosperous new year 2021, Alex! Nice comparo. I wish Nissan brings the Rogue and the Patrol to India. I say this because ours is a SUV-dominated market, with Compact SUVs ruling the roost since 8 years now. Nissan is also having a successful run of late here in India after it launched it's made for India little SUV - the Magnite. It has quickly achieved more than 15000 bookings in just under 1 month's time.
Rogue's flexible rear door is the reason why I own Rogue. My mom has arthritis and a knee problem. She can get in/out of the Rogue easily.
I like everything about the new Rogue and think Nissan did a great job. I currently have a 2015 Nissan Rogue SL with 57k miles and I absolutely love it. Personally it still feels, looks and drives like a premium vehicle. My 2014 Nissan Versa SV has 70k miles and so far has been a great reliable car.
I just got a 2021 Rogue SL AWD & I love it!!! Traded in my 2017 Highlander and have ZERO regrets! I use my Rogue as work vehicle and carry a fair amount of tools and a folding ladder. Plenty of space and the handling is great!
Leaving out the RAV4 hybrid option, this is a slam dunk for the Rogue inside and out.
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with rogues new fuel sipping 3cyc engine, it's a slam dunk even w/ hybrid option
The new Rogue absolutely wins for me.
*These cars are in my book. Nice to watch a review of the cars that tailgate me every day.* ❤️
My First TH-cam video of 2021, thanks mr Alex
Nice job, Alex. I like your (and Sofyan’s) reviews over everyone else’s by a long way; you’re straight to the point, no nonsense, and provide significant detail on things I think most drivers should know about (especially cabin noise and ride quality). One thing, though: when talking about the RAV4, no one bothers to mention the important point that the memory seats feature does NOT extend to the external mirrors. I had to learn this after purchasing my RAV4 last year, and it still eats at me. So does the 2021 Rogue Platinum you reviewed here have memory seats and mirrors?
Keep up the great work, and I’ll keep watching!
Excellent review. You did the comparison the way it should be. Tons of information provided.
Thanks. Great review. I appreciate all of the details you went though. You helped me confirm my decision between the two. I test drove the Rouge and I was instantly in love. No need to test the other.
Thorough head to head review by AoA as usual. Currently looking in this segment and this helped a lot.
Rouge do have many things better than RAV4 but there is one thing Toyota does the best... reliability
And resale value. Unfortunately Kia/Hyandai and Nissan still lag behind in that department. Honda another good option for resale value.
@@James-il3tq but not for reliability now. Lately Honda’s reliability has dropped
Toyota & Honda are getting too complacent with their quality control. The premium they charge for their reliability is fading. Not such a good deal anymore, just living off their past reliability records.
@@HLMAX Toyota still makes reliable vehicles
Stop blaming Toyota for the junk Honda makes
@@HLMAX in general? Does that include the models built in Japan?
I compared these two recently, and ended up buying a Forester Touring.
Honestly, I'd watch Alex review a cardboard box before I watch some of these other reviewers.
Generic Nissan CVT concern comment.
Generic scotty hates nissan comment
True
Worse then Generic, its Jatco..
Lol. Well played sir.
Generic jatco crap comment 😂
Nice to watch a review of the cars that tailgate me every day.
Wonderful review Alex. Thank you and happy new year.
Nice redesign by Nissan and it'll be cheaper up front but if you care about reliability and resale value Toyota hands down.
@James, You are completely correct.
These days any car can reach 100k miles. Coming to the resale value, you could buy Rogue at a cheaper price. So, they are both even.
@@CRVgarage Most Toyota owners don't want their autos to last only 100,000 miles though. They want 200,000+ miles which is why at 100,000 they have a lot of resale value (since they have a lot of life left in them).
@@James-il3tq Very few people who buy new vehicles keep them for 100,000+ miles, though. The average American new-car buyer buys a new car every 4-6 years depending on the size of the vehicle (larger vehicles tend to be kept longer). That is to say that very few people who buy the Rogue and Rav4 new will own them much longer than their powertrain warranties (5-year, 60,000-miles for both vehicles).
Long term reliability mostly only applies to used car buyers as they are the ones who will be driving the vehicles when they reach and exceed 100,000 miles and will do so without the original factory powertrain warranty, meaning that any repairs will be comping out of their own pockets.
@@dave3682 I agree. However, you do have a smaller percentage of drivers who have long daily commutes and who also travel state-to-state. That's not to mention uber and delivery drivers. Those people, including me, will easily put 200,000 miles in 4-5 years. At least during that time they want a reliable vehicle that won't have major repairs, nor will it have multiple annoying electronic bugs.
I still keep coming back to the CVT issue with the Rogue. I understand that a hybrid Rogue is returning soon... I hope that doesn't use a CVT, but instead a planetary gear setup similar to the RAV4. I'm definitely impressed by the new Rogue otherwise.
Would really like to see how the RAV4 Limited interior actually looks/feels compared to this Rogue, which is very impressive IMO. I think in the mid-cycle refresh for the RAV, Toyota needs to improve some of the features availability and also add some sound deadening.
Rav4 all day for me. Nissan’s history of unreliability just worries me way too much when it comes to spending this amount of money. I hope the Rogue does really well though- it seems like Nissan is really trying to up their game.
you can trust Rogue this time dude.
New Nissans typically come with a 3-year (and extendable to 5-yr if u wanna pay them a bit more) combined service and parts warranty Nick, so don’t worry.
@nick the warranty covers that . The cvt is a lot better than before .. Any one who buys a new rav 4 instead of a new rogue .. should face the reality you are buying a car with a 2 year design vs a new one.
Just purchased a 2021 Nissan Rogue Platinum. Absolutely nothing to complain about. This car is light years above the RAV4 in terms of luxury and fit and finish. Super premium feel, awesome gas mileage, at a great price. Love it!!!
Excellent review! I bought the Nissan for the reasons stated. Better technologies, premium interior, larger, etc.
Very good comparison. I also thought the RAV felt rather tight, and Nissan has some of the most comfortable seats in any vehicle. I do wish they offered an efficient hybrid. I think the Ariya may sell well.
That's what I'm holding out for, I'd like to see the reviews for the Ariya and how it's going to compare to all the other electric crossovers coming to market soon. The last ICE daily driver I'm going to buy is sitting in my driveway.
Excellent and fair review about rogue
One has a cvt that’s been nothing but trouble for the past decade. The other is known for being reliable.
It’s going to take a bit more than an inch of rear leg room to make up.
Well, there’s also the special squishy stuff on the Nissan door panels...
To be fair, it looks like Nissan has finally got their shit together. The cvt lawsuits have dried up with their latest generation of cvts.
Having said as much, I'd still wait a few more years before I'd buy one, just to be sure, but I'd have no problems leasing one in the meantime.
“It’s going to take a bit more than an inch of rear leg room to make up.” Yeah, the Rogue has a way nicer interior, better tech and looks better.
I’d choose the RAV4
By far, the best auto reviews on TH-cam. Keep up the great work, Alex!
1:54....I may just be easily amused but I'm glad he left that in... hahaha
This one easy in my book. Avoid the one with the Nissan CVT.
Lol
@@needleontherecord what was funny about the original comment?
Still driving my 2010 Nissan Altima 2.5 SL with the first generation CVT--the one that doesn't have the phony stepped gears. Plenty of power. No problems. The key? Drive it hard, drive it often.
Get over it. In the next 5 years most 4 cylinders/hybrids will be running CVTs. I don't care for them either but as long as your not taking your CVT vehicle to the track you'll be fine. Reliability is way up and moms don't care as long as it's a smooth ride. Also conventional transmissions aren't bulletproof either.
Scotty? Is that you?
Outside of the Hybrid, it just seems that you get more car for the money with the Rogue. It seems it has almost matched the CX-5s interior in regards to materials and is definitely at the top in tech probably along side the new Tucson. Interior space is still on the top end of the class And the driving dynamics seem to be much better as well.
But the assumptions on reliability and price may not hold true as they have in the past. There hasn’t been much noise about the latest batch of Nissan CVTs and that’s essentially been the main cause of concern with Nissans. And Nissan is still aiming to sell with less discounts as before. I’m sure there will still be some, but the level of quality and the competitive pricing seems to be another approach to keeping discounts at bay. Overall it seems Nissan is willing to sacrifice volume for higher transaction prices.
Cuz it cheap as the resale value, after buying you lose more money on it fast . My wife have the 2017 SV. Bought it 27k, after 3 years of driving with 36k miles. That shit was worth 13k, we lease it . So it didn't hurt our pocket .
@@kromahj Don’t doubt it, but you’re talking about a 2017. This is an all new generation. Of course I know resale value isn’t going to change over night and will depend on it’s popularity but it definitely could and should improve with the new generation. Overall it’s a very solid product and much improved over the last generation.
@@bigd7386 how this improve, it just came out
I had a 2014 grand cherokee one thing I loathed was the joystick shifter knob. Toyota is always behind in interiors and features because their drivetrains and reliability are their main selling points.
I don't like the Nissan headlights
Very nice review of both cars! Very Informative. Just one thing about the Rogues rear seats tho. There is a slight recline. You can push the seats back and it can lock onto one more level of recline. It's not much... We are talking inches but just figured ild mention it. I didn't know about it until I was playing with the seats in my rogue after someone pointed it out and I wanted to see if it's true. Anyways great video!
As of late, some Toyota models like Camry, RAV4, Highlander are made too cheaply. Too much cost cutting in materials and fasteners in American made models.
Happy new year guys 🎈🎆🎊
Great review 👍🏼 Hands down go to the Rogue
The rav4 is extremely popular in NYC. I’m assuming because roads are horrible and the plastic cladding is a lifesaver when parking on the street because many jerks park by “feel”.
Good attempt on the Rogue by Nissan...I feel its alot more premium too
The rogue (can't speak for first gen from definitely second gen onwards) have always been more premium than both the CRV and Rav 4. Soft touch plastic in the front for the Nissan compared to Toyota and Hondas with hard plastics, more comfortable seats (the Toyota's last gen rav4 had horrible back seats. Having owned my rogue for 5+years, I'm still loving it
I know you can't really do this with new cars, but I wish somebody would evaluate interior build quality instead of how nice it looks.
I've had a Honda, Toyota, and Nissan. The Honda (the oldest model) was cheap hard plastic and put together like crap, but it never rattled and held up perfectly. The Nissan was the nicest, but the dash fell apart several times (felt kept just falling out of junctions) and the shifter trim eventually broke and jammed the shifter. The Toyota was assembled like some kind of tank, every wire was bolted down and the trim was tight, but somehow *everything* rattled. I would find they put felt everywhere except like the one spot they should have.
Nissan Makes one of the best interior spaces than any other economical car...that's where it ends.
The trade depreciation cost of the Nissan is so bad I’d never - EVER - buy the rogue
Thts a Renault not a Nissan
Thank you
Since compact cars aren't typically sought after for performance, I'd say interior quality is extremely important. Also, Nissan makes some of the best small car exteriors outside of Mazda. The New Sentra and Versa look way better than Yaris, Fit, Elantra, Corolla, etc
... plus they tend to offer tons of excellent safety tech. Nissan does more than just great interiors
@@andersonrodriguez8258 that’s a Nissan
I wonder if shrinking the interior of the rav was part of a plan to put it more in the middle of the C-HR and the Highlander ; the rav4 traditionally didn’t have a smaller option but honestly the CHR shouldn’t be an option for anyone, nor the trax, or hrv, or encore , or anything even like it they are all garbage
Alex on Autos: What’s your honest opinion. Nissans powertrain reliability with this new Rogue. Would you roll the dice? Have they improved their CVT? I’m currently in the market. I’ve got a 6yr old and my wife and I are looking to have another child. I currently have a leased 2018 RAV4 hybrid that I’m turning in at end of the month, and I don’t want to go with the new RAV4 due to the interior dimensions and higher cost. I’m currently trying to decide between the new Rogue SV trim or a 2020 Ford Hybrid Escape. I like the mgps with the Escape, but I’m willing to sacrifice some of that for more cargo space. Either way, I’m financing the next vehicle, so it’s a longer term investment.
I had a 2010 Altima coupe with the CVT it was just boring it was the only thing I disliked about it. It gave me ZERO issues and I owned it for 10 years. But I also rent a lot of cars and had a RAV4 for 2 weeks it was garbage, merging on the highway was damn right scary. Everything inside it felt hollow and cheap, I had a Rouge for 2 weeks and it just felt way nicer but it was gutless too. I’ve had the Mazda CX 30 and 50 and there gutless too. It’s like you pop the hood and go ummmmm where’s the engine. Long live the V6 engines, these 4 bangers are just awful to drive.
I normally look for reliability and fuel efficacy over other stuff. My 2001 Corolla has about 143,000 miles on it and it is as sure as the sun rise and set. The only time I had problem with it and had to almost do a major repair is when I try to modify it to make it more fuel efficient, with is system call an HHO kit which also turn out to be a scam. Just regular oil, oil filter and air filter change, is the only maintenance I do out side of accidents I had that need to be repair. My only annoyance with it, is only on my once yearly trip Brooklyn NY to Montreal QC. I just take to long to shift when I am going up dose steep mounting hills and my highway speed start to drop off real quickly, with my foot to the metal. So I normally gun it before the up hill and only worry I do not get pull over by a State trooper 🤣🤣
I like the internal and external look of the Rogue better. But I want to see what the reliability and quality will be like. Just wish the Rogue came as a hybrid. I want a hybrid though. Really wish Subaru Forester came as a proper hybrid. Subaru has a connection with Toyota now. It would be great if the Forester could use the RAV4 Hybrid system. Then it is a no brainer to me.
I think its great that Nissan has upped their game with the new Rogue. It looks great and has many upgraded features. This keeps the manufacturers progressively making better vehicles for the consumer. I would still choose the Limited Rav4 Hybrid over the platinum Rogue. I would rather have my money in a Toyota over Nissan just because of the reliability and resale. Thank you for a very well done review!
Wow. The Nissan is a great vehicle. I don't know how many times you preferred the different features of the Rogue, but it was a bunch. If not for the hybrid option, the Rogue would have totally kicked the Toyota's rear. Way to go Nissan.
I drove the Rav4, Subaru Forester, and the Hyundai Sante Fe. The Sante Fe was by far the best of the three. Will it zoom 0-60, no. Will it keep up with traffic, yes. Will it go the speed limit on the interstate, yes. What more do you need in power? It is more roomy than the other two. I am getting 26 mpg in town and 31 to 34 mpg on the highway. Beside that it was a better deal.
Happy New Year to A\A. Thanks for keeping us grounded during holiday lock down. Alex needs to write a song called, "I got them Smurf blues." :)
If 8 speed auto delivers the same fuel economy as CVT what's the point in CVT?
Probably cheaper to make
Profitability
Cheaper to make for the manufacturer....
I am not sure why Alex shuns from mentioning the elephant in the room - CR-V Hybrid. It has better room than both the Rav and Rogue. It's mechanical AWD handles better than both. Its fuel economy is not so bad (35mpg). It's cargo capacity is the best. So what's the problem?
I love the rogue! But the CVT worries me. After the warranty is over and I have over 30k miles on it that engine is MY PROBLEM. Nissan needs to offer a longer warranty‘s for free!!! Like some of its competitors
I got a 7 year warranty with my Nissan Sentra from the dealership.....that covers till 100,000 miles.......so long warranties are available.....
Nissan has a 5year/60K mile warranty. The fact that you're insinuating this car will have problems around 30k miles is simply untrue and if it were Nissan warranty claims would be astronomical. NHTSA would have to conduct an investigation as well.
@@truckercowboyed2638 I mean long warranties like 10yr. But The one you you have is great though but I would literally would have to travel completely out my area to find a dealership that offers it
@@trent7080 no not at all. I’m a Nissan fan boy and I know there cvt are crap! If you go on their USA Twitter under replies you will see so many comments about customers having problems. My Nissan Altima has already had two recalls for 2020. That’s ridiculous. CVT are Nissan‘s biggest issue. Its sucks.
Not to be rude but I feel like I spoke to you before, on another video about nissan. I remember the picture of the African flags. You love to bring up the NHTSA cause it the only fact you have. you don’t use no other sources even though other ppl also admit to having problems with them. You the type of person that if you someone thought to be great but they turned out to be a murderer/pedöphile you would justify them is still being a great person because of your own personal feelings. Nissan has problems Nissan has problems Nissan has problems.
The problems are astronomical. Once again the problems are astronomical. I need you to except a fact. It is very weird that you would even say something like “ insult the vehicle” I hope Nissan is paying you for supporting them even though the facts about their CVT are very much legitimate.
2015 Rogue S owner and no issues at 80,000 miles
Before that we had 2 Sentra S that got sold with 120000 and no issues
Informative and concise review. Thank you. But seems the Forester (which you like.chose above all others in 2019) isn't mentioned at all. Even in the length chart. Any reason?
Rogue for me
Nissan appears to have another winner and gives me hope for the new pathfinder (a vehicle more in my wheelhouse than this size).
Not sure if Scotty K would approve of Nissan’s CVT. If you don’t mind the feel of CVT’s and only plan to keep the CUV within the warranty period then this Nissan appears to be a good choice, the interior is certainly nicer.
I chose the Rogue because it's nicer than RAV4. Regards.
Nice. Nissan really starting to turn things around. The new Pathfinder looks to also be a success.
I’ve watch so many of Alex’s reviews that I don’t even have to watch them anymore to give him a “Thumbs Up”
I agree with comment on interior of RAV. That said, if you want something that will run forever, there's not much else to be said. I have one. It's like spending all day with your sister.
I don't care for rav4 but it looks best in XSE trim with the two-tone paint. I'd say the best looking in the segment with that configuration. Otherwise, I'd say the Nissan looks better
If all things are nearly equal...with any comparison...the CVT is the deal breaker.
Yup.
I've driven the 2020 Murano and Maxima. I hate CVTs. All I'll say is drive it before you knock it. In the Murano, Nissan made a very luxurious feeling with the CVT; in the Maxima, the CVT actually felt very sporty. I never thought those words would've come out of my mouth. Again....try it before you knock it.
99% of buyers don't know nor care about what a CVT is. I've seriously never met a non-enthusiast who care about anything other than "it's an automatic."
@@kevman949 Yes. Its just like zillion speed automatics. How many non-car types have any clue how many gears their transmissions have because for most people it is irrelevant.
CVTs in general are fine. It’s who makes them is what we re concerned about
If the RAV4 had a regular CVT I wouldn’t be worried because Toyota makes good CVTs. There haven’t been any reported issues on the corolla CVT
Own two rav4’s for reliability only. Had a rogue as a rental car for a month and loved it. Much better driving than rav4 but it all came down to reliability to me. I’ve had Nissans before and at the 3 year mark things started to go downhill quickly.
It’s the same with the Altima as well, it’s interior is nicer and it drives better than the Camry. That being said I’d always pick the Camry just due to reliability
The Nissan Rouge is in need looking much better and the inside, is Primmum indeed. But the RAV4 Hybrid is still the number 1 pick for me. Reasons are Toyota reliability; Fuel efficiency; Higher towing capacity, even do it is unlikely I will need to tow anything, but it good to know it capable just incase you every have a need to. I love the big rotary knobs, and I rather the one piece rear cargo floor cover then the two piece of the Rouge.
The Nissan Rogue is a better looking vehicle inside and out
But the RAV4 is more reliable
Rogue looks better from side and rear but RAV4 much better looking front especially headlights.
More reliable? How would you know? It’s brand new.
You can’t say something about reliability on a brand new vehicle.
@@bblakester69 he said the RAV4 is more reliable not the Rogue.
@@rafaelg9016 you wouldn’t say that if I were supporting Nissan
Happy New Year Alex.
Alex, Happy New Year to you, Team A on A and all your SUBSCRIBERS. How about a RAV4 Hybrid the #size of a Rogue or CR-V? Please pass that message along to Akio Toyoda the next time you see him.
See Corolla Cross
Happy new year, glad you are still busy.....
Me will go for Rouge due to its beautiful interior and zero gravity seat. I lease car so reliability not my choice.
Besides back seat room being lacking in the RAV as you point out, the front seating space is also less than the prior version(pre 2019), At 6'3" I am tall, but not NBA tall and the driver legroom is no longer sufficient in the current model(head room is just marginal now). Plus with the driver's seat back as far as it will go I and looking at the widened B pillar when looking to the side. Even front facing child seats would suffer as it is tight with legroom for the grandkids in my 2016 RAV sticking out from their car seats - even if I move teh front seat up some.
Highlander amazingly isn't that much better. Thus I recently ordered a Telluride to get the roomier front and rear legroom with a usable third row to boot.
I got the 2016 RAV because of it's roominess for a compact and wish they hadn't shrunk the seating space. Sure would like to fit in a Prime! Quicker AND more fuel efficient.
I love cars, trucks and suv”s with startup tone. But when I heard your introduction to your reviews. I thought why not use your introduction video tones for start up tones in vehicles. I honestly think I’ll be doing this in my vehicle. So calming and pleasant love it.
For NA solution, manufactures need a master switch, under the hood, to turn off all the electronics, except for doors and ignition. Given how efficient and durable natural aspired engine have become, a 10+ ownerships can be easily achievable if corroded electronics is taken out of the equation.
If it wouldn't be for CVT I would prefer the Rogue.
Happy new year from Toronto. Awesome channel
The Rogue DOES offer wireless Apple CarPlay in the SL w/Premium Package and in the Platinum trims though.
The Rav-4 will last 300K miles, the Nissan, not so much.
this is now old story. its change now.
Who cares!!
Alex, any word on a redesign for the Murano? My wife's 2007 looks "ageless".
The Rav4 looks much better IMHO
I live with my mom and sister and my cx5 is just perfect. Took it to Nova Scotia from Toronto with all the stuff we needed for that trip and turned out pretty well and I got really great mileage.
You could totally just swap the fog lights out for Led
I did it for my previous rav4
Where do you get the led fog lights ?
@@johntzeimet Amazon
Nissan appearance is more Appealing
and thats about it. Rav 4 is a better car in ever other way.
@@midoriyaizuku4403 ...except for price, features per trim, passenger and cargo room, rear seat access, standard safety features, standard touchscreen size, and availability of a fully-digital guage-cluster...
The Rav4 wins in the powertrain and efficiency departments, but the Rogue is superior in just about every other measurable aspect.
In other words, buyers will have to choose between the longevity and available performance/efficiency of the Rav4 or the superior price, technology, safety, and comfort of the Rogue.
The RAV4 is definitely a pick for me the rouge is also good
Alex, now that gas price has shoot up to Mars, the Rav4 Hybrid will even sell better. Another great comparison.
Would choose neither; the Rouge is too polarizing and the CVT is suspect, and the RAV4 has less soul than a kitchen appliance and the interior feels cheap on anything but the top trim. Would rather take the Mazda CX-5.
The rav4 is nice but the rogue seems to be much nicer. I noticed the rogue has a real time tpms where the rav4 does not. Also my wireless charger in the rav4 doesn’t work for my iPhone of galaxy. I wonder if the rogue’s remote engine start shuts off when you enter the vehicle. It’s super annoying on the rav4.
Just how bad are rear car facing seats in the RAV4 in comparison to the Rogue?
Please do a comparison with the Tucson.
I would be considering rogue, but the shifter seems silly. RAV4, like many vehicles, has a center console thats too wide and gives me a claustrophobic feel. No wiggle room. Just my 2 cents. 😊
Hello Nissan and Toyota!?! Put the lock buttons next to the freaking door handle!! It’s such a pain to not be able to just feel on the side of the door to find the lock and end up rolling down the window!
Indicated 26mpg Nissan vs 35 mpg Toyota hybrid. Ok, the Nissan has some interior niceties, but considering the mission of these vehicles, it’s hybrid all the way. (Also: my escape awd hybrid is at 39mpg average at ~5500 miles, and that’s including cold weather driving that Alex doesn’t have.)
RAV4 wins in predicted longevity, powertrain choice, and available powertrain performance and efficiency.
Rogue wins in price, safety, technology, space, and comfort.
In short, the RAV4 is better under the hood, the Rogue is better everywhere else.
Man... I just can't take these videos where you have a Nissan in them, seriously. I don't care how premium the damned interior feels. When I am stranded on the side of the road, sitting waiting for the tow truck in a nicer interior, is no compensation.
- All around, best choice, CRV, whatever trim you want (Price for features, the EX-L seems best value).
- Best reliability, RAV4, whatever trim you want.
- Best choice if you need towing and don't want a large SUV, CX-5, whatever trim you want.
- Best choice if you need space, size and towing without going to a truck sized vehicle, Highlander.
(All of the above have better reliability than Nissan)
When you are spending the kind of money that goes out the door on a loaded or nearly loaded vehicle in this class, you can't ignore long term reliability track records. I get that you are, like several other car reviewers, trying to stick to what is on the window sticker but come the hell on. NOTHING from Nissan or Infinity is at all in the same overall quality realm as a Toyota. So you go buy a Nissan, you replace the transmission at least once under warranty, then you can't get rid of the thing to save your life? Did you get it more for the financing rate you could get? You buy a car to buy a car. You should NOT be buying a finance package that comes with a free car.
You are very passionate about this.
You’re a typical hater, the Rogue offers the best value on the segment, this and the CX-5 offers the best quality and refinement, the technology of the Rogue is better, the newest CVTs are a lot improved with good quality and response.
Rogue is an intelligent choice in the segment.
I would wait a few years to buy a Rogue, reliability is a big question mark right now. That being said, Nissan did a fantastic job on this generations Rogue. It is way roomier and unpscale inside than the Rav. But there’s one other small suv that’s pretty darn good, with a upscale interior and very roomy , the Honda CR-V. It should be redesigned for 2022.
@@rafaelg9016 He is not a hater. I have been stranded in a brand new Rogue rental. I know many people who had transmission problems with their Nissan cars. And my mechanic friend who works for Nissan tells me never to buy a Nissan unless its a Truck or GTR.
You cannot deny the masses who say the same thing about Nissans CVT reliability. Nissan needs to abandon the CVT idea. Their cars was once very reliable. I had an early 90's Nissan Maxima that lasted 200,000+ miles but that came with a 5 speed Auto.
@@Al13n1nV8D3R that’s not the case in newest Nissans, actually their newest transmissions have a lot of improvements in terms of quality and response.
A flat steering wheel is only there to help with ingress and egress :)
I made the mistake in testing of a Nissan rogue with my wife. Now my wife wants to get rid of our Durango we’ve only had for three years to get a Nissan Rogue. It’s a very nice car but I don’t know if I’m ready to get rid of the capability of the Durango
Get the refreshed 2021 Durango
They are not even comparable. Toyota is so much better.
Lease the nissan, buy the toyota
Actually it's the opposite. Cars with good resale value is cheaper to lease. So, lease a Rav4.
For a 2019 designed vehicle The Rav4 already looks abit dated.. I'm seen 2019 Kai that still looks fresh in comparison plus used they are relatively cheap and offer similar warranty used as a new Toyota
I just don’t like the way cvts feel so I’m gonna always go with the one that offers an automatic
Both of them have CVTs
@@TheLanard no, only Rogue. And its Jatco made CVT that was problematic in the past...
These is the first time a I am hearing about RAV4 Toyota, Rouge Nissan, CRV Honda,
CX5 Mazda reviews. Guys buy a Corolla Toyota for $20,000, If you need AWD then
buy a comfortable car, all these cars are just about the same size.
Comfortable is the main goal and durability. Toyota hold the value,
last longer, Nissan in second place. I haven't decide which one I will buy
yet but so fur I am putting Rough Nissan on my list first.
Comfortability, durability and look. I need an all AWD and use
it as a working or taxi vehicle. Thanks for your service 🤣😂
Alex, where's your Mach-E?
Here's wishing every viewer of yours a very happy, healthy, safe, and prosperous new year 2021, Alex!
Nice comparo.
I wish Nissan brings the Rogue and the Patrol to India. I say this because ours is a SUV-dominated market, with Compact SUVs ruling the roost since 8 years now.
Nissan is also having a successful run of late here in India after it launched it's made for India little SUV - the Magnite. It has quickly achieved more than 15000 bookings in just under 1 month's time.