$200 for GameCube and Nintendo Switch emulation is pretty nuts [Retroid Pocket 4 Pro]
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I've had my fair share of problems with Retroid in the past. This is once again an attempt at an affordable emulation powerhouse, and I think they might have succeeded.
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when you talked about retroids launcher you said that ps2 wont load from the launcher. that is a problem with all frontends have when dealing with athersx2 not just the retroid launcher, im not sure about citra but athesx2 just doesnt work with frontends. there is a community made patch called NetherSX2 that allows frontend compatibility.
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Nintendo did actually just send you parts back in the day. When I was 13 I got the GBA when it launched then immediately got the screen punched in by some kid at summer camp. I just sent Nintendo a well worded letter, then 2 weeks later they sent me a screen repair kit and a thank you for spending my hard earned allowance on Nintendo products... For free. To a 13 year old. Addressed to his bunk at summer camp.
will its not there fault it got punched
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@@diamondly6250 I know. I'm saying that's amazing customer service you don't see anymore
@@diamondly6250he never said it was…..
That’s a really neat story. I wonder who managed the incoming letters at that time.
Honestly, if a company responded within a day with "we're sending a replacement part immediately," no shipping charge, no other hassle, I'd actually be pretty happy. That seems fine, that seems like a nice standard to just implement widely.
Yeah Retroid is pretty good about this, but after getting replacement parts for every Retroid device I've bought (due to hardware failure out of the box, including screens, thumbsticks etc) I feel like I should be on payroll with how often I'm reassembling their products. That being said I had to RMA my first steam deck for screen and non-functional LB, so...
I'll comment on my experience, I fucked up and broke my screen on my Flip by sitting on it wrong. Was my bad, so I asked how to go about replacing it. Two emails, 35 dollars, and 1 week later I was sent a video and a new screen which took 5 minutes to replace. Fantastic customer service.
It's a hobbyist brand. So I don't think it's a big deal to have us repair things ourselves if they're willing to send us the parts free of charge. But of course give the option for a free replacement.
Yeah, he really seemed to be complaining and then a second later was like "Yeah and they responded in 30 minutes, are active on socials and address problems but I didn't get it the next day so it's bad customer service." Also the reason there's more "work" to put emulators and games on the device is because it pulls liability away from they and puts it on us as customers. A company can be sued easily but hundreds of thousands of individual people can't be. You'd think he'd know that? I'm actually really disappointed with his lack of knowledge and real baseless complaints considering the track record of the company, their customer support and the fact that their relatively new and one a few leaders in the market.
"Just don't expect Tears of the Kingdom to run on here."
That's fair. I wouldn't expect TotK to run decently on original Nintendo hardware either.
Damn 😂 someone call the burn unit.
Honestly it's a miracle how well TotK DOES manage to run on the Switch.
apparently you havent played it then because it plays like a dream on switch
@@twistedimagev2It’s _bearable_ on the switch. Expect to watch a slideshow if you want to use ultrahand with more than two enemies on screen.
@@9999thviewer I dunno Ive never seen it get that bad. Ive seen it drop in fps a bit with like a dozen or more enemies on screen but never a slideshow.
I bought the RP3 and when they released the RP3+ shortly after... my heart sunk...
think it's worth mentioning that the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro probably isn't going to be replaced instantly and they've learned their lesson from the 3 and 3+, because they announced the 4 Pro and weaker 4 at the same time and sold the 4 Pro first.
This is why I'm waiting to see if they do a metal version, or maybe a pro+, you never know with Retroid.
Same here. I decided after that to stop buying retroid pocket. Picked up an Odin 2 pro. Best decision ever
@@bson5192 I have the Odin 1 Pro. I went through the Deck Oled, the ROG Ally and the Legion Go. I am rolling with a Galaxy Fold now. When it comes to emulation and remote play. Android is the way to go.
I think that's a correct buy. I can really only suggest retroid pocket 4 or pro if price is a factor or you just like the form factor along with pocketability. As the Odin 2 also has an official dock that could just quite simply make it function as a desktop computer as well. @bson5192
Even though Mr. Wulff often says things in the heat of the moment and doesn't always research before speaking, I want to give him credit for being one of the most honest handheld reviewers on TH-cam. Kudos for always saying exactly what you think.
The switch guy advertising Soylent
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reminder "plant based protein" is bullshido
I came here to comment this 🤣
can someone explain this joke
@@narutolol3199 i still don't get it
Ya know what’s crazy, I have literally never had an issue with quality on Retroid products. I’ve preordered multiple times and they’ve all come out of the box with zero problems. Even with the 2+ (and I preordered that bad boy the DAY it became available), it still was flawless. So weird how they’re this spotty.
As always Bob I appreciate your honesty. I only have one Retroid product but after watching your video I'm slightly paranoid about whether or not all my buttons work, so I'm going to test each one tonight. :)
I just got mine today, excited!
Great video! I bought a Retroid Pocket 4 Pro a couple weeks ago and waiting for it to be delivered. I've heard mostly good things about it, but I'm really looking forward to setting it up. Having decent GameCube and PS2 emulation in a smaller handheld device was a huge draw for me. I have a feeling I'm going to really like this thing!
Its better then all this reviews show. Ps2 emulation with vulkan and minor tweaks at 2x is almost perfect
@@shto4782 That's awesome to hear! Thanks!
The game pad tester app is wrong, everyone’s right trigger doesn’t work correct in that app. You have to use the game pad tester through the settings(it might be the calibration thing can’t remember)
However R2 trigger does have a defect in the weak spring and it breaks. That's why they're replacing it with a whole new backplate with an improved spring. They've stated anything shipped after 1/31 was fixed.
@@phinyo2066yes the triggers have issues with breaking however this video is not highlighting that problem. You can see in this video that both of his triggers work as he presses them down. Its just the pad tester app he’s using is bugged
@@phinyo2066 Damn, mine shipped on the 28th...I haven't used it yet. Wonder if I got lucky
@@ZyloWolfBane_Based on the Retroid’s Chinese announcement on that issue, it could be just the first batch of the trigger springs they got from supplier contains defected ones. They claim it will only affect a tiny number of rp4 pros and it’s super easy to replace since the backplate isn’t connected to the board by any wires. So don’t worry too much about
I just love your raw, honest take on everything. Legend
I love how he does ads I find myself watching them when I normally skip them
I have the Retroid Pocket 2+ and I am pretty happy with it. I didn't do extensive testing on it and I don't play it super often, but it works well for my purposes. I mostly play GBA Fire Emblem games, but I have played other games with little to no issues.
i got a rp2+ as well. im thinking of getting in the market for a new handlheld. but i just dont have the disposable income
I bought the RP3+ a couple of months before Retroid announced the new 4/4Pro, I was bummed but then I realized I just use my RP3+ to play GBA and PSP games because childhood 😅 right now I’m p,aying kindgom hearts for the ps2 and I love it, I don’t need the new version, maybe I will get the 5 or the 6 idk
I love that you homeboys got yourselves retro consoles just for GBA games. Shit warms my heart.
the rp2+ is GOAT
Not youtube playing an ad during your ad read 😭
Just got mine two days ago, have been very impressed. No problems with the RT, yet lol. Metal Gear 3 and Peacewalkers were two of the first games I tested, both run beautifully! Midnight Club 3 on PS2 runs great with slight 2-3 fps drops here and there. Only game I've really had issues with is Sly 2, but that's notorious for bad emulation, even on PC. Was able to get stable 40-45 fps with some settings tweaks but still was noticeable enough to be a tough experience. Played through about half of Luigi's Mansion without the RT giving out on me yet.
I'm not the only one to believe I got a different colour to the one I ordered then... I'm sure I clicked for black and ended with 16bit, I hate it... Gotta say this is the most honest, realistic video on the Rp4 pro I've watched, kudos for not sniffing Retroids arse!
Email support and maybe they'll send you a whole shell replacement
Nintendo switch is wild
I mean it costs like 70$ more than the switch lite, just saying
.... It's the same price. And the switch is trash with a processor from 10 years ago
Switch lite can’t play most these games I have one
Not really switch emulation works on even low end android devices like this one but not well enough
Yeah a cfw switch in 2024 is pretty wild
I also had problems with the triggers, I'm waiting for them to send a replacement backplate as they said, thank you for the sincerity of your review you were one of the few who mentioned this serious problem and for 200 dollars this shouldn't happen, I value my money
My man finally got a soylent sponsorship after being a fan ever since the switch corrupted him
His soyboy era has begun /j
but soylent is made of people!
Too bad Soylent is GROSS. I don't blame him for chasing that bag though.
can you elaborate on the "corrupted" part?
Anyone who posses a Switch automatically becomes a soyboy, same goes to anyone with a PS Vita after 2014
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Its far better than the previous iterations of RP's, of which I have a couple. I have been playing Wii games on it so it goes past just GameCube for playable performance. You can 2x most GameCube games on it and nearly 2x PS2 (1.75x). Sometimes the problem is not the hardware it can be the emulator, some were really geared for certain chipsets, of which the RP's isn’t really one. If this was a snapdragon I think there would be less issues with compatibility, but it would cost a heck of a lot more. Russ at Retro Game Corps did a great walkthrough and setup video for those interested, it’s also good for tips to get the best out of it. I received my RP4 Pro at the beginning of Feb and have been playing lots of different types of games on it including native Android, its exceeded my expectations, though I find the form factor and size can cramp your hands after a while, may look into the grip they sell. I don’t know why they don’t incorporate the grip design into the console itself.
"You're buying something to play stolen games on anyway" really isn't much of a point. Doesn't somehow lower the bar for quality. I'd still like to play those "stolen games" on something that reliably works (and doesn't get replaced near instantaneously).
I think it's worth mentioning that the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro probably isn't going to be replaced instantly and they've learned their lesson from the 3 and 3+, because they announced the 4 Pro and weaker 4 at the same time and sold the 4 Pro first.
Someone please explain the concept of “jokes” to this poster, thank you
Comedy is not legal on TH-cam per @Tsukiru
@@phinyo2066 I guess so when it comes to releasing things, still seems like production quality didn't improve much.
@@pobbityboppity1110 wow, if only I actually said that! Take that stick out of your ass and teach yourself on the concept of GOOD jokes, thank you.
I'm sorry for thinking the statement not at all presented or told as a joke wasn't a joke. It will happen again.
2:38 a VERY rare Bob Wulff bussin’ it down 😂
Finally. Been waiting to see what you'd say about the RP4. Let's see....
....and I guess I'll wait and see what the AyaNeo Pocket S will be like.
You a funny dude. 😂 I still have my rp4 pro in the box. Been playing my Odin 2
Your straight talk is laudable. Thank you. I'd put this at a maybe a distant #4 right now: 1) Steam Deck 2) Odin 2 3) Mio Mini Plus
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ive been using the rg35xx + and im loving it, I'm planning to bring it to PAX east this year as my only console. Though I wish it could play dreamcast just a little bit better, I would love the form factor of the xx+ and the power of the pocket 4 XD
i wish the screen was a tad bit bigger. i'd seriously consider getting one.
I'm tempted to get a RP3+, mainly because I'm more interested on PSP emulation, maybe Dreamcast as the heaviest system, but I'll definitely wait a few months to see how the RP4Pro turns out after some of the kinks get ironed out.
I ordered and got a Retroid Pocket 2s a few months back that came with a (known, according to other reviews) problem with the screen... Haven't had the time to complain to them yet as part of me knows they will send me parts and say fix it yourself.
They really need to work on QA as the device is good otherwise, just sucks came faulty.
Not sure if worth hassle in long run as i agree with Bob stuff shouldn't come broken in the first place & then be told fix it yourself!
Mine arrived with no issue. I watched a setup video and ive got everything i want working well. Worth every penny imo
How long did it take you to get your from pressing the pay now button to your doorstep? I just put my order in on the 7th.
@MEDiumInc it will get to you, just be patient.
@@F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w allegedly it should be here today. We shall see.
I wish he talked about the very noticable pink ghosting effect when scrolling and navigating the android menus like settings and the top bar
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I just received my RP4 pro just a few days ago. So far, there was no issue. My only concern is that the display has a green tint that is fixed on the software side. I don't know if it'll have long-term consequences. Also, I wish it had bypass/pass through charging; high performance mode is really taxing on battery.
Considering Ayn has access to Snapdragon and the upcoming Pocket S will use one as well, hopefully the next RP will have a Snapdragon.
Damn dude I have been interested in emulation lately and you channel has just been it lol
Just got my 4 Pro and I have the same trigger issue you showed in this video! Did the replacement backplate fix the issue? How was the install process?
I'll wait for the next one, hopefully with a bit more power.
So far I expect the inevitable RP4+ or RP flip 2 to have, at least:
1) proper screen; 2) fixed RT; 3) LEFT STICK ON TOP.
This is exactly why i am still not the early adopter of these new handhelds, i am rocking my Switch Oled
I want this but the retroid pocket 5 pro will be out next week 😂
think it's worth mentioning that the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro probably isn't going to be replaced instantly and they've learned their lesson from the 3 and 3+, because they announced the 4 Pro and weaker 4 at the same time and sold the 4 Pro first.
Something that I don't see much is how BAD the screen can look. It's supposed to be the same one as the 3+, but the firmware must be buggy because it has a lot more ghosting, magenta trails on high contrast zone (like Game Box, with black on white) and the V-Sync is broken, so there's stuttering evey few seconds that can be quite annoying. It's probably things that can be solved with an OTA update (could also be bad panels, who knows), but keep that in mind.
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The creator of the company Soylent is part of the occult and smiled sinisterly when the soylent green movie was brought up to him
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That's why I like your channel. For the truth. Thanks!
Bob's classification of "playable" with those stutters and major FPS drops is another man's classification of "you can't PAY me to play it like that!"
Bob does such a good job with the add reads it makes me mad that no one else puts any effort into them
Soylent's green flavor is unironically the best. I'm still searching for the best retro game emulation console though.
Your friend has NO POINT. Even drug dealers test purity of cocaine before selling.
Speaking from experience? 😂😂😂 Jk jk
I'm in well overdue for a retro pocket upgrade. I still got the first Gen I think I might get this one😊
Didn't the 3 or 3+ include the rubber membrane at first because it shipped with dome?? Not that it was prone to having a broken home button? I remember that Taki complained about that quite a bit the rubber membrane was gone...
Yes. This isn’t the first time I’ve caught a bit of misinfo in one of bobs videos. It’s why I don’t subscribe. I find retro game corps and taki udon to be far more in depth. For want of a better term I regard this as a “normie” tech review channel.
I am waiting for next year to upgrade my 3+. it’s wild to me that you keep getting faulty devices. Luckily for me mine have been working fine.
as soon as i saw the ad segment for soylent i got flashbacks to the AntVenom incident...
Have you heard of the Beacon front end? it looks really good and is actively being developed.
Daijisho too
@@phinyo2066 I currently run that front end on my phone
The same thing happened to me! I swore I ordered the clear one, but I got the 16-bit one. Same deal, checked my order it says the 16-bit one. But, I put it to a vote with my kids and we decided to get the clear one. I just thought I stuffed up. Maybe, there is some shenanigans going on...
You should really do a review on the GameSir G8 Galileo, a fantastic controller that I have personally been using for quite some time now.
Nice B-roll shots with the iPhone
whats exciting is that these handhelds are getting better and better. we are 2? generations away from perfect gc emulation on a handheld
Gc emulation is perfect en steam deck
@@montruo000000007 steam deck is a pc handheld. I'm talking about smaller andoid handhelds /cheaper ones
@@waverazor understood, so sub $200?
Odin 2
@@phinyo2066 I know they exist but they're just getting good is what I'm saying. And it keeps getting better. The easier it is the cheaper it will be
I wish this had more power. The form factor and SIZE in particular is very appealing.
My Odin 2 is amazing, but it's just too big. It only fits in my inside jacket pocket, but not my pants.
"Imagine if it was a nintendo product and a thumbstick doesn't work" - my attempts to contact Nintendo about my non-working JoyCons resulted in their recommendation that I buy new JoyCons. If they'd sent me the hall sticks I ultimately ended up buying instead, I'd have been overjoyed.
Bob out here with the old school cool way to draw an S easter egg on the fridge
I've still got my RP3+ which is good enough for me to play from Master System to PSP and Gamecube. Yeah the button layouts are rubbish but it'll do for now, so it's not worth the upgrade yet until Retroid or Anbernic finally release a handheld that is absolutely capable of smooth PS2 gameplay at full FPS.
The only that can do without problems is the Odin 2!😊
I was torn between this and the Odin 2. Ended up with an Odin 2 but idk, I reeeeeally like the R4P’s aesthetic. It looks like a proper big brand hand held.
Been game streaming from Xbox and steam on it as well and it’s sweet!
do you think the NS emu will get better with yuzu updates? or is this the peak?
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Damn it's crazy to hear an experience like this. I haven't had any issues with the RP3+ and the Flip. Not one problem. Guess I got lucky? Lol idk
Cann’t tell you how excited I am to see you do a video on this. Just 2 days ago i was recommended a review video on the Retroid Pocket 4 Pro and to my amazement it handles Wii, GameCube, and PS2 games pretty well. I have been waiting for something that can handle that plus DS 3DS Vita and PSP games all for an affordable price. After watching a few more reviews from other people i determined that i wanted one and will order it right after Chinese New Year since Retroid isn’t shipping until after the holiday. The second i saw your tweet about this i immediately hoped on TH-cam to watch because even after watching at least 5 hours on this item I will always watch your tech reviews because i trust your opinion on items. Haven’t led me astray yet and i cant wait to see what you say. Thank you Bob.
Can I ask what makes you interested in this over getting a steamdeck and having a wider range of emulators?
@@richthepup absolutely… it’s the price. I think a steam deck starts at 400 bucks (could be wrong) and this is half the price and I believe, most if not all the games I’m interested in playing work fairly well on the 4 pro. Dont get me wrong if I could get a steam deck for 200 bucks I’d be all over it haha.
I just wanna know when are you going to release your hitbox-style controller :(
My into to them was the 3+, and the bumper switches went bad quick. Will never try another one after looking at the cheap switch and foam they use for them
@WulffDen
I hope you do an Ambernic 556 review. This way he can decide which is better design quality and performance!
I like how you're the single biggest vocal critic of Retroid I've seen on this site, yet you still have a lot of positive stuff to say about them lol.
7:26 That's one of the most correct things I've ever heard.
Had the right trigger spring break within hours of first using it. Contacted customer support and was ignored. Actually love the 4pro but their lack of support to manufacturing defects will ruin them.
Going to wait for the Pro+ 😂👍
This is why I let folks like y'all go through the growing pains. I'll swoop in later :D
freaking love my retroid pocket 4 pro
We need that Auto Modellista test. I haven't come across a game that stresses the emulator more than AM.
I just wish they would ship them out faster! Been waiting a week and half now. Saw people on Reddit waiting almost month before it was just shipped.
Lots of screen issues from the initial batches. Lines on the screen or shadowing.
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Bob, I love you man, but I'm not going to eat Soylent and live in a pod.
I love your channel
to anyone looking at this review recently after 3 to 4 months, they have fixed the trigger issue and they have also fixed the screen problem too! I got my unit recently after chinese new year and its amazing with no issues at all.
Maybe we get full switch compatibility will be achieved at retroid pocket 5 pro.
That gamepad tester app is bugged and has been for a long time. The R2 analog does not show specifically in that app. Your trigger is actually fine unless the spring physically breaks. That is the known issue.
I thought I got black one but got the normal one but hey I got it and mine hasn’t had any issues and I love it
“I can’t pull the trigger. Mine is f*cking broken.” LOL Bob
Boy I could not be happier with mine, Im not having any trigger issues by now. It is a device made for people that like tweakings things though. Setting a frontend, configuring every emulator, knowing wich version of them works better in wich scenarios, and all that. Gc and wii runs almost anything at 2x with even hd textures. Ps2 is hit or miss due to the emulator development stop. And switch can mature a little bit. Metroid dread runs at full speed with skyline with no tweaking or whatsoever. Gotta say, they did take a while to ship mine.
And yeah, playing games that require using 2 sticks can be not so comfortable, so the oficial grip works very well, it is almost a must need for those games. (Can confirm it)
Yeah its me again. R2 issue appeared. Will try to fix it when i have time
Ayn sent me a solo thumb stick for my Odin 1 Pro. They actually never responded to my email but 4 days after I emailed them a thumb stick showed up.
Made me laugh hard a couple times in the subway, thanks bob
2 questions, can it play F-Zero GX and does it support CRT Royale Shader?
Right Trigger works in the Android Handheld Settings, it's just not working in the Gamepad Tester app. It's weird.
Damn bob has amazing dance moves
I built a desktop for $100 for PS2 and Switch emulation. It does it well and upscaled :)
My rp3+ has a broken volume button and the r1 button is faulty where it registers a imput even if you barely touch it, the volume button has very thin tabs that touch the button that tells it to turn up or down and the volume up button is cracked which is a easy fix and I got the circuit for the r1 so I'll just have to replace it but still it's sad that I even had to fix these when I have ps1 controllers that have been used for 30 years and still work
When i was first looking into Emulation Handheld, i was immediately drawn in by the look of the Retroid Pocket, but the fact they keep doing revisions scared me off from them and almost kept me from entering the hobby. Still am interested in the Pocket 4, but haven't been able to justify it