DICE Breaks Battlefield 2042's Gunplay Yet Again... (Visual Recoil + RECOIL BUG IS BACK)
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00:00 RECOIL BUG LOOOOOL
03:25 Visual Recoil Demonstrations
05:32 More Weapons Demonstrations - เกม
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Dice is a joke
Always has been
@@Anonymous-rc7kqonce upon a time ago they actually used to be half decent
@@KingKeno777 yea battlefield 4. I dont understand y gaming companies dont listen to their fan base.
@@user-jr5lt6tb6j They do and get burnt because they listened to reddit. So they don't bother and do their own thing.
@@user-jr5lt6tb6j that's exactly right my friend the biggest problem is these companies don't listen to their players
REBUG A BUG.
-DICE
They broke something not broken by trying to change stuff thats not broken
They broke a big fundamental problem in the game by trying to implement a change to the game that NOONE wanted to asked for. Company is a absolute garbage
@@hjk3351 i had no hope for the next BF
@@johannessergio7725 yeah it looks grim for battlefield. At least Square Enix is still producing top tier games. Final fantasy 7 rebirth is easily one of the highest quality games ive played in the last 4-5 years. Took them 4 years to make, but it’s absolutely amazing
@@hjk3351If they wanted to make the weapons feel more "punchy" then maybe they should have started on the audio design.
@@namesii1880 all that time they spent doing that nonsense they could have spent giving us more guns so the game feels less boring on top of that the re broke everything bunch of clowns over there
I used to work for EA. Ever since 2008-9, they haven't even had a QA department. They literally got rid of the whole department, in its entirety. Why? Because, they started outsourcing QA, at first to India, so they could get away with paying people cents on the dollar for QA testing, and then later, outright stopping even paying for it at all. Because, YOU are the QA department. Literally. You do all of the testing, for FREE, and in your millions. Only, now the games don't get tested, at all, until AFTER they have been released to the public. Tested BY YOU. they use the public as unpaid testers, because developers can now just release a game in "early access" or, better yet, the actual digital licenses agreements, and therefore your purchasing rights are literally NONEXISTENT. Meaning they no longer have to have a finished, vetted, tested, and polished product out. Ever again. This is why game development studios have had a sharp decline in quality for the last 15 years. Almost all of them now rely on you, the public, to effectively test and quality assure THEIR game. Instead of how it used to be, where the manufacturer of the game was responsible for testing and fixing the game BEFORE it went out to market. Why pay for a QA department, when they can just get you to do it not only for free, but PAY THEM TO DO IT? That is literally what happens. You are paying them 30, 40, or even full price, for a completely broken product, which YOU then test, FOR THEM. instead of them paying an internal team to do before they released it. That is because of the EULA, that you all agree to. End User License Agreements. You are only renting the product. You dont OWN it, anymore. So they have no legal obligation to assure a quality, finished product. Perpetual development phasing.
I love when investors get involved in fields they have no experience in, no real passion to GAIN experience in, or don't care about in any way! :D
there is no hope for BF if these same devs are on it.
Most likely not on the new battlefield the have a small crew left on this game
@@ajarmetta they left all the devs who nobody likes on bf2042 crew, probably hopefully they are gonna fire them as soon as they are not needed.
It's like they genuinely do no testing whatsoever, mind-boggling stuff
At least with Hell Let Loose they let public test the new maps with PTE.Player testing experience before releasing
@@kevisrev7529 DICE also has a test server but it's for the "EA Creator Network" only, which are a bunch of yes men.
Or they are jsut so incompetent, that they dont recognize this...i mean did you watched the streams of devs playing? They are beyond bot level mostly...
I used to work for EA. Ever since 2008-9, they haven't even had a QA department. They literally got rid of the whole department, in its entirety. Why? Because, they started outsourcing QA, at first to India, so they could get away with paying people cents on the dollar for QA testing, and then later, outright stopping even paying for it at all. Because, YOU are the QA department. Literally. You do all of the testing, for FREE, and in your millions. Only, now the games don't get tested, at all, until AFTER they have been released to the public. Tested BY YOU. they use the public as unpaid testers, because developers can now just release a game in "early access" or, better yet, the actual digital licenses agreements, and therefore your purchasing rights are literally NONEXISTENT. Meaning they no longer have to have a finished, vetted, tested, and polished product out. Ever again. This is why game development studios have had a sharp decline in quality for the last 15 years. Almost all of them now rely on you, the public, to effectively test and quality assure THEIR game. Instead of how it used to be, where the manufacturer of the game was responsible for testing and fixing the game BEFORE it went out to market.
Pls just close the Studio and let us dream about good old BF days. This Franchise is buried
Dice needs a rebrand, there isnt one og dice dev left
if they just add cross play servers to battlefield 4, 1 and 5, thats enough for life
The recoil animations should have their own separate epilepsy warning.
Me seeing Desert Eagle visual recoil at 4:28 "Look how they massacred my boy" 😢
What i think, the DEVS never played a FPS game in their life (:
This doesn't affect my performarce but it affects my anger and patiance...
Dice, wtf are you doing ?!
Did you see DANNYonPC recoil bug video with iron sight avancys?It's hilarious
This bug was before
One of its iteration:
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Avancys is one of the most bugged guns.
Enders you have to try this and maybe make a short or something. It is too funny 😂
Omg just saw it. Looks worse than on S1 launch day 😂
I had to look it up. That was hilariously bad
April Fools' Update is earlier this year
Love how the laser stays in the right stop while the sight that is attached to the same weapons moves around totally independently to it and often in the total wrong direction.
With lagging mouse on my high ping location this visual jitteriness makes it even harder to track people, so now I just suck. Thanks dice.
Where the fuck is the server browser after all these years
Enders called it days before the patch dropped😂
OMG V-car is like you are slaping somebody with a fish in your hand left/right LOL. Must be the feeling every DICE employe feel durring the working hours.
I can't hit anything with the LMGs, feels like im missing every shot and I am shooting marshmallows at people
Thanks for explaining. I came back for season 7. At first I thought my aim had become garbage for playing other games for like a few weeks lol. But there was clearly something else going on
Thanks man. Was wondering why some guns felt weird last night.
ah yes... the classic "let's change the gunplay which nobody asked for and make it not only worse but also make it bugged again". yup, sounds like a DICE moment to me
remember: don't preorder
Here we go, popcorn time
I played the first day S7 came out. I haven't been playing since. And gosh... My life is at peace.
I noticed them right away, all my favorite guns fire very strangely now, some worse than others, some miniscule.
Normal developer: lets fix something broken
Dice: lets break something we did right.
😢
the desync between the center of the screen and the sight reminds me of the finals
Dice should hire Enders.
They'd hear too many things that they already know they don't want to hear.
Hi Enders I really hope you read this. I didn't think it would actually come to this, but I uninstalled the game 5 minutes ago. I was playing other games, having FUN, and then popped 2042 on cause the matches aren't that long and I am about to head out for the evening. Not even 5 minutes in I was already getting frustrated, annoyed and I wasn't having fun... I paid for the "gold" or whatever edition (the second most expensive) to get both series X and Xbox one versions of the game so that I could play with my friends. They haven't played since th 5:52 e beta. I thought that I should make my money's worth and the more I play it, the more I'd enjoy it (ps it was £90).... Never again. This is the first time I even thought about uninstalling the game and the fact that it has gotten that low, I knew I should, and I've been playing since launch, multiple days every week. F*ck you DICE and EA. Thx for taking the time to read this, I commented on this to make people more aware of not making the same mistake I did and also giving them credit, when they don't deserve it.
I'm convinced that the devs don't even play the game. Dice and EA just throw anything in the game and not notice this crap.
Visual recoil is a fucking shame
To the devs who got the idea : resign and never work again in video game industry please
These devs should go to Activision/Infinity Ward. People who are completely out of touch with the community are in good hands there.
Go play cod if you don’t want recoil lil girl
@@Iniquityslasher are you stupid?
Visual recoil is when the sight deviates from the center of the screen. It does not affect weapons actual recoil pattern. So it's just visual and adds nothing to the actual recoil.
That's just a bad mechanic because it creates an inaccurate representation of what is actual happening.
Who the hell didn't see this coming?
Classic DICE reinventing the wheel again when nobody was asking...
The only good thing that this game had (which was that guns had barely any visual recoil) and they ofc have to fuck it up
Watching this with my monitor aim point turned on. I did this in game yesterday based on your previous video. I was amazed to see my sights reticle drifting around when moving. I played the SCAR and it didn't seem to bad but Haven is a small map. Could you check the sights on the tanks? I was watching Ghost's video and my monitor lined up with his sights for weapons but when he got in a tank it was way off. WTF? Also you'll want to see DannyonPC's broken recoil bug video.
Also, the digital holo is also bugged with the numbers overlapping each other obstructing the view completely (ps4)
Ive had that issues for months, sometimes its like i lose complete controll of the weapon and my mouse input does nothing, its literally like i get reconnect controller but with my mouse😂
Dice is not a game company anymore - it's a frustration inducing bully mob...🎈
Thanks for the Breakdown. Do you ever game with a controller? if so could you do a video on settings used on BF2042?
I could be wrong but it feels like they didn't attached the front of the gun to the center of the screen (like in R6 siege for example, you can see that it still has a Little visual recoil but the frontal point of the gun, the far point of the barrel is somewhat locked to the screen) so you can have clear picture while shooting and moving your aim abruptly. But in 2042 it fells like the back of the gun is attached to (I hope) the center of screen so this weird disconnect on the PKP happens when you abruptly swift your aim causing the gun to behave like a " bamboo stick" that lags behind
Of course they did 🫠
ok, I KNEW I wasn't going crazy when I was using the SFAR yesterday! it hands down felt bugged.
The P90 !!! 😮 that is horrible. The real one definitely doesn't do that.
DICE makes things weird with balance. Making everyone find a meta weapon instead of common sense.
That's so messed up that the Deagle 50 cal. Doesn't even move yet this P90 has a real recoil buttstock spring inside the weapon.
This is like the 12th BF game come on!
Good job, Dice. You're feeling me with confidence for the next title.
For the longest time I thought this was an issue on my end, I never saw anyone complain about this? thank god you're showing light to this again and thank god it's not my problem!
I had taken some time away from the game, played day 1 for season 7 and thought it was just me. Thanks for the video!
people say this new recoil is an improvment...
Because most BF players are as good as the AI.
they are braindead just as dice
couldnt really tell with the rest of the weapons but it almost looks like the visual recoil is messing with the idle animation of the mtar it seemed to stutter a lot when you were aiming at wall 7:48
What about the new Tank 3rd person view bug, it's impossible to shoot with precision, when you are on the outside view. What a shame
But they still expect you to pay £17 even with crappy creator code for Battlepass for a load of nothing
Don't you just use the bf coins from last battle pass?
Huh, the MTAR behaves like how it does in BF4. Try shooting the MTAR in that game and it does do a circular rotation there too.
Enders I think it was like this before the Season 7 update. They never actually fixed the desync from where you pull down while shooting.
3:19 dayumm lol
i was watching at .5 speed during the pkp sprays, makes enders sound suuuuper drunk xD
I get what dice was going for in making the gunplay more visually weighty, but I don't really see a reason why they would add a feature like this so late in the games lifespan. Them readding the recoil bug is insane and is the reason why you don't need to try to fix stuff if it isn't broke, especially if it messes something else up.
lmao random ai coming out of nowhere @1:26
this is why you should be the one who's playtest in this we should have seen this before it came out
M5a3 short barrel got hit hard with this bug. I can't comment on the visual recoil until they fix the recoil bug aiming feels much worse now
Glad I'm not the only one experiencing this :D
If it’s not too much trouble I’d love to see mouse & keyboard cam as a norm
I can not even play a full round of "conquest haven" in without CTD
The recoil behaves drastically different between custom games and match made games
thought i was going crazy noticing a change myself.
I am about 20 kills away from getting my G428 to Tier 1, but after the Visual Recoil Glitch went live, unless you are using a sight that is 2.0 or larger, it has a VIOLENT snapping/twisting effect. It's absolutely brutal to use now, but I'm so close that I'm just going to have to deal with it until I get it. It's complete BS tho. DICE PLEASE FIX THIS GUN. I BEG YOU! 😬
Thank you ENDERS for these videos.
The game is just content wise over and they still find a way to fuck things up 😅
You recent videos taught me that I should always have my monitor crosshair on. Thanks dice
SVK with thermal 2.5x for some reason has less visual recoil for some reason than using the
Sucks I can't even enjoy Season 7 at all because of the recoil bug returning. I'm not playing until they patch it. Again. Fucking incompetent devs.
After playing and or adapting to the "specialist", DICE ended it for me with classes. The idea, I'm assuming, was to win back disgruntled players and re-flavor the game as a BF Original. It felt like a gimmick last ditch effort. I waited five years for a modern BF and 2042 was somewhat tolerable, but now, it's not happening for me. Season 7 is probably going to irritate who ever came back to play again.
I wouldn't mind the visual recoil if it was accompanied by a serious rework of every gun sound in the hopes of making them actually feel like firearms unlike the bb guns they all feel like.
Now the gun recoil feels more like bf4 or bf3 with visual recoil? Or am I wrong? Because the game used not to have recoil at all.
Im so glad these guys are getting clowned, they need to be humbled. The OG dice devs gave us something special with The Finals and they keep adding new fun mechanics instead of going all the way back to the foundation of the game and trying to “fix” things that just needed to be left alone. Ridiculous.
Same thing using the tank gunner
It's even worse on G428, the sight just snaps horizontally
The scar heavily I can’t use anymore bc of the update it’s too much. And it was heavy pre update.
man enders you are the one that makes me wanna go to stockholm and pump dice"s studio full of manure also i legit played for 10 minutes then i noticed the recoil bug being back and alt f4ed and uninstalled this shit show of a game ill keep on playing bf 4 for the next ten or more years at this point
Thanks god this do not affect suscription skill
There is some missing pullet when I shot someone 🤬
It's true, the skill gap is higher, I no longer get killed by an (insert IQ insult here) VHX player, at least not so easily, it lets you learn and master how you use your favourite weapon, like the BSV-M.
try the aksu's recoil
I'm using crosshair builded in my monitor maybe 9 months in this game. My aim is much better.
Dude I'm by now means great, but I tried 3 rounds of Haven and couldn't figure out why I couldn't get a kill. Plus I got this weird FOV glitch.
one more suggestion to dice, why cant we just get some flat recoil increases that are controlable if you are good enough and will actually feel good to beam someone with. instead of guessing where to shoot and hope the spread does you a favour. every longer range gunfight especially on a headglitch feels super cheesy and simply not confident, you just shoot and hope to hit enough shots before the other guy does.
by the way - xbox can’t play the new map. my xbox has NEVER crashed before, but every time i play the new map it guaranteed crashes my entire system and im concerned for the health of my xbox, so i stopped playing
day 1 player btw. been eager for this new map for too long now do deal with this issue
Better than Armored Warfare where you disconnect from your whole tank.
That game, almost 9 years later, has a bug where it will kick you back to the garage but leave your tank in battle with no way for you to rejoin.
I guess your aim being disconnected from your gun is better then that lol.
ngl every time I think about Enders and other streamers talking about mouse input issues, they always seem to have a wireless bluetooth mouse. Idk, I use a controller on my PC because I grew up on PS1, PS2, Gamecube, and original xbox. So my input works fine and dandy
To be honest I don't remember that aspect of the recoil bug (looking down) ever being fixed. That's a bug that simply will never be addressed. I'm not playing or purchasing the pass this season until gunplay is fixed.
Also the 1.5x sights on the DMRs are ****ed. Like what are they doing. Literally flopping 90 degrees. None of the sights are consistent. Use the deagle with XDR holo, visual recoil is non-existent.
I found I had to up the verticle sensitivity to help counter pulling down more to control recoil. Which I find weird if it's only just visual. Seeing your mouss still climb while pulling down makes sense now.
Iron sights or red dots you don't really notice it. It's when you use different scope types is where it makes the weapon feel like garbage. So DICE has just limited our gun combos all for sake of screenshake. Lol
I'd rather they reverse the change or significantly reduce it. Gunplay feels like a choir now.
what you feel is probably your way of cheesing away the recoil bug by overdoing the recoil control
@teskript4605 Played a lot better tonight after changing it. But feels like I'm working a lot harder to counter it.
It's bullshit, they test nothing.
I was going to say i like the visual recoil changes because the guns feel more gritty and real then you pulled out the p90 and i got a headache from watching that cancer. That shit literally caused my eyes to strain.
After the season 7 update i hardy hit anything with vechile guns
Pain
The vrec has fked the gunplay up so bad! It's especially evident with optics more than 2x magnification, and for me, the only weapons that don't suffer so bad are the SMGs. Almost all the other weapons in each category are just jarring as hell.
Some people like it but the majority I've come across don't. I really don't think it is needed. If you want to have this milsim experience, then just add it as an option in the settings or something, like Visual Blur (which I have turned down to 0). Don't just blanket spray the whole gunplay mechanic with this shit.
It was in bf4 in begining, but guns was moving to sides.
Can we agree that Dice wanted to make this game more like COD in terms of mechanics, visuals, hell even skins. The last seasons skins are totally COD like and just dont feel battlefield or in any way pertaining to a more mature or serious audience who sees that the real wars are happening in real life and people dying out there while they create some cartoonish, over the top, not requested or necessary concept art for a game that already had an identity. Same sh.t went on BFV when they introduced the lady with a prosthetic arm in WW2. WHO DOES THAT??? i mean so many people died horribly in that war and they decide to mock it with a Marvel super hero type character. The skins for the last season are just drawn out of a comic book, like Spawn movie. They re grotesque, they have too much death symbols and all those charms and wallpapers have no relevance to the Battlefield franchise as we knew it. They definitely want to infuse some superheroish type of obscure manga characters and attract a less mature audience. The ones who see all marvel movies and know everything that s happening in those universes but are clueless to what happens in the real world. How 10000 kids died in Palestine. How 600000 people starve in Gaza. How Ukraine was totally anihilated as a nation by a super power that, ironically we are playing it in BF. Yes, RUSSIA!! Nobody wants to attract political attention to this matter. No content creator is saying anything against Dice by letting the Russians exist in their game. With each update they could ve changed the factions, exclude russians from their games. They dont deserve this honour. You re not even allowed to pick sides in this game. Imagine you re an ukrainian boy who just lost his father in the real war by some russian angry comrade and he comes in BF game just to be forced to play russian side. I mean, at this point this is cruelty. They dont have any option to switch side in game or to play the allied. Not to mention that they villify the russians as a whole. And not all russians are bad. Many dont even want to serve or die in a senseless war. But here is Dice, EA, politically correct companies who are not at all politically correct. All the big names and brands took their bussines out of Russia. Not DICE! Nobody ever says anything about this. Why is RUSSIA still a faction in this game? As an ex communist ex soviet country bf player, who is right at the crossroad to Russia and Ukraine, i felt compeled to raise this point. I know the big youtubers dont get political because they re afraid of losing their bread.
I don't really notice it until I try to kill someone at long range shit gets annoying I damn near poured a whole clip into dude and all I get is hit markers ! Idk why the put this in the game so fuckin late
I couldn't report it because Xbox isn't working for reporting on series x for me but I can't even go on the new map added and finish 1 game because it freezes my console up within 1 to 10 minutes.
I agree with the point that bad players are gonna have a way harder time hitting someone on range compared to a good player, but my god does this make gunplay feel bad. Everything about the gunplay feels bad now, bugged aim, recoil bug, high input lag, delayed movement, spread without the ability to burst effectivly and now this new bullshit. just as you said, who the f... asked for this. My last hope to ever see a decent battlefield is just gone at this point. battlefield isnt a game for fps players anymore, its clearly made for the "this is so immersive and goes 4 : 9 in a 30 min game kinda player".
And imagine the new BF with almost all devs fired make new game if they can fix this with over 2 years...