Part of the problem is that EA has been in negotiations for 2 years over the FIFA license and it looks like they'll loose it. Battlefield franchise was pivoted to be a battle royal for monetization to make up shortfalls. Then when they realized that wasn't going to work they back tracked 50%. We are part way between full skin monetization and a full battle royal, which no one but EA wants. Why they dont make a new IP and let battlefield be battlefield is lost on me.
not even. this is a bad game for monetization, simply because you can't extract microtransactions out of a non-existing playerbase. the game needs to be good at a base level, so that people play at all, and so that people can get comfortable with the idea of spending even more money on it
That doesn';t really work out in the end tho, that';s why BFV was scrapped. No playerbase long term (aka live service) = no money. Which means this game will be abandoned like BFV except it will be even worse because this game on Steam already has close to the same playercounts as BFV, pathetic. At least BFV has core Battlefield features in it, this game doesn't.
@@mcgmgc Didn't say it would work ;). Just that it's all built and prepared for it. No long term playerbase? There is a easy fix for it. 1. reduce content on release 2. put in some new guns/maps every 3->4 months 4.combine it with paid battlepass for new fancy skins and stickers for the tanks/jets etc.. Or more likely new sentences for the specialists for the start/end -->casuals will come back
@@Fabianthehunter I honestly believe this game won't be saved. The core is terrible. The map design alone makes it so even if they magically fixed everything tomorrow, the maps would still keep the game at a very low rating. BF4 was atrociously bad at launch, pretty much unplayable but the core was good, it just needed fixing. This game tho? It has nothing. It's missing basic features things like ECM, tv missile, aps, reactive, thermal, sraw. It just has nothing enjoyable. I don't know of a single person who doesn't enjoy practicing tv missiles, as an example. There is no content.
When you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one. That highly paid executives and AAA game designers don't get that is utterly shocking to me.
nah nah, you got it all wrong. It's not that they don't get it...it's that they don't care. They know. Trust me. But the $$$ keeps rolling in, while they laugh their way to the bank. EA knows at this point they can just do whatever they want. They are too big to fail, and they know it. So they'll squeeze every penny out of you while gleefully destroying franchise after franchise as they rake in millions.
They don't care. It doesn't matter when they can get pre-order money before launching the game and a bunch of whales to support their abusive microtransactions. When every single publisher is letting this stuff happen, you start to notice that lauching a game on that state means their putting less money on the game already knowing people will pre-order. They're making their money and getting out before the launch even happens, i don't know why people still pre-order games.
Right mike d? Leave bf as bf, no some b.s. colleague of popular games. I'm so tired of shooting someone in the face on this game and only getting cod damage... apparently cod developers on bf2042s dick think it takes (3) 7.62mm bullets to the face to kill someone
They understand, they just don’t give a fuck because they know people will still buy this shit. Why make your game good when you can ship it out unfinished and fix it later through patches? Who cares if the public hates you if they all say your name? Any press is good press, after all. My point is that EA doesn’t care, and why should they? People will buy this crap regardless of whether it’s good or not. 2042 was a cash grab, and boy did it make money.
This is probably the best 2042 rant on TH-cam. You brought up every single concern and did not try to sugar coat the fact that we were sold an alpha-stage game for 60$
@@lordkira9791 god i feel bad for you thank god i played this game in the 10 hour trial thingy tingy as a battlefield vet i completely agree with enders this game is fucking garbage
When I first heard them say “128 players” my first thought was “well your netcode doesn’t work properly with 64 players, so how are you going to make it work with twice that?”. After the BF5 debarcle with all the bugs and seemingly endless patches and hotfixes that never failed to not introduce new bugs, I too have zero faith in DICE being able to fix 2042. Which is exactly why I haven’t bought it and I’m not planning to do so either.
Yeah, especially if you realise that when you double player count, the number of possible interactions between players basically quadruples. The bad news is going 128 player is one way street. It would make them look really bad to go back to 64 players in future games, even if that was the best possible decision from both technical and gameplay perspective...
How broken does a game need to be before it's deemed illegal to sell? What if you bought a film and half of it was missing? What if it was nothing like the trailers? It would be great to have a high-profile court case to settle this.
australia deemed fall out 76 as broken and fined the sellers who advertised it and sold it. most countries dont do much legality stuff with video games though
It's not going to happen because gamers are the most abused community ever. Gamers are the only ones that eat stuff that are not ready and still have the guts to defend it. When the next BF comes, people will still pre-order and nothing will change.
I think the saddest part out of all this, is that these design choices are here to stay probably for every next battlefield. I've never ever seen a franchise that i love be ran into the ground before and if this is what it feels like damn.. I mean battlefield was like the only fps game i truly cared about and was special to me even if i played other fps games. It was that game where you could just hop in for a few matches and have heaps of fun and vibe but now it's an actual chaos shit fest which is trash, I played alot of cod but i didn't give a shit about it in the end so seeing battlefield turn into this.. just hurts /; I got to level 68 after hours and hours of playing and i literally just realised at that point, that i wasn't having any fun at all during all my playtime.
Battlefield will always hold a special place in my heart. As far as gaming goes, probably the special place. What we’ve witnessed at DICE in the last decade, slow at first but quickly building, is so incredibly sad.
@@lekonjames654 You kidding? This game gets released, people flock to buy it, the game is terrible but why would Dice care? They've already got megabucks just by owning the franchise, they could sell the next game wrapped in income tax notices and people would still buy it. At this point, the *only* objective these studios have is to make money, if people want to delude themselves into thinking the studio doesn't see people as anything other than complaining wallets then go for it. Face it, this is battlefield from now on, and it's not going anywhere. Neither is COD
I'm sure they will drop bf2042 support soon enough and right after that they will replace bf with a new IP. I can't imagine that EA spends money again on something that doesn't work out like they want to
Honestly the vehicle situation is exactly like The heroes in battlefront 2, They're always up, easy to control and get kills with and killing them makes no goddamn difference at all because another just pops right up
This review is absolutely on point! The only thing I don't agree with is soldier movement... I prefer the boots on the ground aspect of battlefield and any changes that move it closer to COD or fortnight in this regard, I think is a step in the wrong direction.
@@stitchcompany291 ofc you havent. i love battlefield but sometimes hardcore bf fans are goofy. you got hipster energy, you only like it because it’s different from the most popular games, without even understanding what makes those games popular.
@@zachwayt3874 your the one calling people names here. Battlefield became popular because it was.... BATTLEFIELD! I dont need formulas that make popular games popular injected into Battlefield and if I did, Fortnight certainly would not be at the top of the list. I would personally pull design cues from games like Tarkov, PubG and/or WW3. EA has been butchering this series since BF1 and there's an entire video outlining the issues at the top of this thread. We're not goofy hipsters, were just tired of EAs shit.
"I have absolutely no idea what to do in this situation" is something I started feeling in BF4 and it never went away. BF3 was the last BF game with a real feeling of map flow and order, while BF4 and onwards has had this obsession with massive maps with no cover like Golmud Railway or Sinai Desert or Panzerstorm where infantry is a shitshow. BF3 had this feeling of lanes, where you could roughly estimate where enemies were coming from and that's why flanks and surprise flag takes were so effective. While there were still good maps in BF4, from that point onwards the games just feel like an ants nest where there are enemies at random places on the map at all times, running in all directions, firing at other random places on the map because there's no cover.
This, this so much. So much of this discussion has people talking about BF4 in the same breath as 3, when actually some of the rot set in then as well - some of the maps as you say are just uncomfortable. What do you do? Oh, you didn't manage to get a vehicle? Be fodder. Die, and die a lot. You had people camping on rooftops in BF3, but nowhere near the level of 4 - so many of the buildings in 4 had flat roofs deliberately to allow for spawn beacons and sniping on them, which sure is fun for the snipers but in maps with little cover you are just fodder. Oh and the 25mm scout choppers like in this video where you have a nimble, hovering daemon that is easy to avoid return fire with, with splash damage? Good luck!
As far as i know BF3 was the last game where maps were designed by the level designer first (layout, objectives, lanes etc.) and then the art team had to make it look good. In BF4 and onwoard it changed the other way around, the designers/art team would came up with a map wich looked cool as fuck and then the level designers had to make the map work. It is simple to see wich is working better and thats why you have the feeling in BF4 and onwoards wich you have described perfectly. Not to say that BF4 BF1 and BF5 hadnt good maps but so many no cover shit shows with bad flow.
Shouldn’t talk about games you didn’t play bruv. Bf4 maps were great and nothing like you said, loads of cover. BF1 was the same, well thought out maps with plenty of cover. You missed out on a good bf game
@@allistairkumaran3582 I've played every BF since BF2, and I can tell you the quality peaked with BF3 and then started rolling downhill and never stopped. The only reason you think there was no problem with 4 is because you've obviously never played 3 or any of the previous games.
3:05 made me subscribe. I've been hearing so many reviewers say 3-6 months and I'm sitting here thinking "You work in the gaming industry reviewing games. And you have a minimal idea of what development time frames look like?" not to mention this team of devs. From top to bottom have some things to work on and I dont think they have enough talent there to pull off a successful recovery.
It’s the money they prob won’t get for that kind of turn around at least with premium back in the day you knew dice was working on the next big thing and able to have something to look forward to while they fixed the launch game
probably because the franchise has a very long history of horrific releases into pretty good end products? that prediction is literally just describing the development cycle of pretty much every battlefield i've played. it's not a secret they rush to a deadline release a buggy mess and within 6 months it's a great game. did you play battlefield 4? they are ahead of the usual cycle because usually they aren't patching out crippling bugs until after their 2 month swedish holiday.
I completely agree with literally everything you said. I also loved the point you made regarding making an impact - nothing you do in this game makes you feel like you're making a big impact on the overall game
It feels like this game was given to marketers, lawyers, and directors who had no identity with Battlefield or it's community... They took so many liberties without even trying to connect with what makes this franchise so unique..
I am in agreement with everything you said. Here's what I think. I think it's gonna be a very long time before this game becomes playable for some. I still haven't purchased the game for reasons in this video. Please keep this up. You killed it in this video.
It won’t be playable and it will be left out before like BF5 was… basics of this game are way to broken to fix this game (128 pl, specialists,way to big maps ect.)
@@lordkira9791 Shit I bought when it came out, my fucking fault for not following the BF franchise. Stupid I am for having hype even tho they fucked up BF2 (Star Wars).... I can't return the game cuz I bought it through the ps store 😔
As a person a professional of business, I can say your depiction is 100% accurate and what I was talking about to other from early access. Everything you said I agree with its not just DICE either a lot of gaming and tech company's are plagued by the fake it to make it employees now. Earned my sub 100% keep up the great work of realness. 👍
It feels like gaming companies used to be run by gamers now its run by investors who knows nothing about games or gaming culture and just want to make money on "nerds"
Go back and play some BF1 and BF2042's shortcomings become immediately obvious. That game is so solid. The gameplay is great, the performance is great, and the atmosphere is epic. RIP Battlefield
@@Schullitz bf1 was better than those games but I also like the historic time period and I'm assuming your just saying this bc your don't like the ww1 setting and also btw just bc you don't like a game doesn't make it shit so please grow up
This game was my last attempt to enjoy a new Battlefield. I was really so excited and as soon as I saw that the full release date was so soon after the beta, I knew it was over.
Honestly if they just ported over the mechanics, movement, and general class structures of bfv this game would have been fine. People would have actually liked it. Have no idea why they had to reinvent the wheel... and then break it.
I was really so hyped. Been hype for this game since they announced that they were done with BF5 updates to focus on 2042. And here I am going home everyday to play an over 15 year old game aka Eve Online smh at least I got that.
I'd rather see the style of classes in BF5 and see how it goes I do not like specialist setup. Maybe it would be better if I could choose what I look like and then choose my specialist path.
Enders, trust me Dice will listen to what you say but do the opposite! Because they don't want to increase the gap between good players and bad ones, rather simply make everyone equally bad. They probably don't want to create an SBMM system, but they also don't want pro players like you to dominate the game. They thought making vehicles so overly strong that noobs also will have a chance to have fun. However, they created another kind of domination (vehicles against infantry), and most noobs players get farmed even more. Vehicle play is a unique and fun part of this game and it is a delicious side dish, but they don't understand it can not be tolerated by most players when vehicle play became the main course. So don't expect this game to become what you pictured one day as the developers can fix bugs but they can not fix management's broken brains.
Not to mention their staunch arrogance. They act like their shit doesn't stink. The fanbase had been making the faults of this game known in every social outlet available and DICEs first move was to release a Santa skin for an operator like wtf?! They don't see anything wrong with 2042 and that's why were screwed on top of the problems the OP listed in this game.
Thank you for explaining the skill gap issue with vehicles and infantry, as someone who has been a good infantry and vehicle player since bf3 it has been hard to explain the issue with 2042 but you hit the nail on the head, the skill gap is getting thinner and thinner and is most apparent in the jets where they are basically useless 😕
Great video. DICE should play it every morning before they start work. The game is massive disapointment on all levels. I hate the chaos from the 128 players, everything is completly random. The maps are terrible, I am running only to get sniped. Hopefully they will add the smaller versions of the maps from PS4 and do some infantry only maps.
I am on Xbox one and the 64-player modes are pretty pointless and chaotic too. I think the map layouts are flawed beyond just the player count. Bfv and bf1 had flow to maps. Bf2042 doesnt.
What's actually hilarious about the Portal xp nerf is that you can do the exact same thing in Solo / Co-op Conquest. May not be as efficient but still results in easy xp farming for weapon and vehicle unlocks. I tested it a couple nights ago for three hours and continued to gain weapon/vehicle unlocks even after I go the xp cap reached message on my screen.
something i havent really heard anyone talk about is how the games continue to take better graphics cards and cpus but the actual graphics seem to be getting more cartoony. i feel like bf4 was the last realish looking BF.
They got rid of crouch running, they got rid of resupply stations and made it so vehicles have unlimited ammo and health regeneration, they got rid of the scoreboard, they got rid of the AMAZING character customization options, they got rid of single player, they've decreased the amount of destruction, they took away the class system, I mean, the list goes on and on...The question I have is: WHY ISN'T THE PORTAL CONTENT PART OF THE BASE GAME? The portal maps, the portal guns, shouldn't they all be available in All out Warfare?
Absolutely spot on analysis, we have nothing but memories of what Battlefield used to be in our lives. I feel personally responsible for the buddies of mine I got hooked on BF4 and BF1 in wasting their money on this garbage.
Its kinda sad. Im a pretty easy person to please and Ive loved all the bfs since bc2, even the bad ones. I loved hardline and bfv despite not most people liking them, but this, I cant even force myself to like this game. As a long time fan with over 4000 infantry main hours, I had hope but now I dont even play this game anymore and its only been 1.5 weeks. I agree with basically everything. 128 players are too much. with each person being a random variable, the amount of players just leads to chaos. I could kill 15 people and solo push all the way to the point but it doesnt matter cause theres enough people to hold the line and my team cant follow through. It’s disheartening knowing that you can be good at this game but it doesnt matter. And dont even get me started on the hitreg, lack of content, map design, and vehicle spam
Yea the fact that there is no way you can be useful or change the outcome of a match, it’s the worst for me. Playing feels meaningless, for me there is no reason to play, no adrenaline no intense moments, no stupid fun. Is die respawn over and over.
Yeah I fell you man. It's just so strange, somewhere in early development someone must have tested the 128players. So many chokepoints, so much open space if you dont stay in chokes. If you do a play and takes out 7-10 people, you get insta shotted from the next wave of people rushing in with sniper smgs.
@@BlancoMD thats exactly why I quit for now. I could top frag with 120 kills but we’re still going to lose. Unlike in previous games where if you do good, you most likely will get rewarded with a win. bf4 locker? epic flank and team follows through and you win. This game? push to a point and tell ppl to follow through but no one does and soon its 1v28 on the point and then the game gets hard stuck. Before I quit I got 124 kills and we still managed to lose
A good example is silks most recent video, 162 heli kills and his team STILL lost. That would not happen in the older games. I think its safe to say that most people like being rewarded with a win when they do well. It just feels like you have no power in changing the tide of battle.
Specialists should have been a thing kinda like reinforcements in battlefront 2, where if you rack up enough points, you get to play as a strong character with more health and special weapons
Someone said they felt like this probably started out as a different game entirely, a sort of battle royale fps for a general and younger audience, and then they scrapped the idea and turned it into a Battlefield game. Makes sense with all those weird changes.
I don't mind A specialist system. I mind THE specialist system they've developed for this game, where the specialists are identical on both sides, where their looks and voices and lines are extremely cringe, and where they aren't functional as team-oriented classes would be.
Everyone use Sundance and a spawn beacon on a high point. You can always fly into enemies and spawns and get lots of kills and always chaotic every single life.
I don’t feel the 128 player work really was that much work; the problem was that they didn’t seem to do any in depth testing with 128 players. The balance of the game is all off - as you said the vehicles are ridiculously overpowered
I’m so disappointed, I’m playing battlefield 5 now. I wish they supported battlefield 5, there was so much potential. They missed so many historic maps. This game is garbage, feels like a ps2 game. So huge maps, so boring, graphics, specialists they made it like call of duty, so many features removed. I’ll opt for a refund. The last battlefield game is battlefield 5. It’s a failure of a game. I hope next battlefield they bring back everything they removed in 2042, especially the classes and yes we don’t need 128 players. Thank you for covering this garage game.
I actually have been experiencing hardly any bugs on the Xbox Seris X version and the game has been running very smoothly and I actually enjoy playing the game with the randomness of the 128 players chaos though I prefer mainly the breakthrough game mode though my big complaints are the big balance issues of the vehicles, lack of transports located around the map, lack of weapons, and the crappy voices of the characters (also noting that flying with controller vs keyboard is much more challenging and is something that needs more mastering than in BF4)
I'm enjoying it despite the major issues and bugs, I've been playing on ps5 and haven't run into a crazy amount of crashes or bugs so my playtime has been pretty ok. The thing that pisses me off is the fact that it spawns you out in the middle of nowhere away from a defending objective.
Very mild rant, in a way that is not screaming at the screen when game is messing your day. I like that. Hit reg and persistent servers where I can actually find the server my mates are at would be my top picks to start fixing. I can live with the cringe specialists, after all I've seen the Japanese katana women of the German Reich in World War 2, the alternative reality simulator BFV.
The devs liked BRs with lots of players and big maps but hate that they suck and die in the first 5 minutes so they thought they can make their own version of it. They didn't stop to think why the BRs work with big maps and 100+ players and why a game like BF won't.
Great review, I totally agree with everything you just said. They've totally destroyed conquest. The maps are too big and 128 players suck, specialist suck, vehicles suck too.
GREAT points, Enders. This is one reason I would like to see XP/Progression in Portal Mode. In that mode we can at LEAST make 64 (or less) player games, use different/better maps, remove the call in system, remove the ranger, etc... The ONLY reason I don't go to Portal Mode is that I'm still trying to unlock my stuff. So, I play a mode that I do NOT enjoy just so I can unlock the "toys" for a "sandbox" that I do enjoy. It's just sad. Edit: I would like to see your reaction/thoughts after the December 2nd Patch (tomorrow). Looking forward to hearing your input.
I feel the dog aimbot lol. I parachuted in and got hit by every bullet from so far away I couldn’t even see who was shooting me and I died upon landing. I immediately was like what a fucking hacker… then bam it was the robo dog with aimbot set to max lol.
totally agree they really need some smaller modes, since they did specialists it has some potential as a fun tdm or maybe even ctf game, but the conquest or breakthrough isn't it with 128, feels like planetside
Use Sundance with a spawn beacon on a high point, it is a complete game changer and makes the game feel so chaotic and fun. Constantly fly to enemies with no traveling and instantly kill them and their entire teams until I die and repeat because I will always be at a high point to fly to them again and again and again. This is my first battlefield and it's completely different after this and I only averaged 5 to maybe 15 kills a match and went negative and after this I never had a bad match ever.
@@thehiddenone470 people now use troll tactics as fly with sundance and throw C5 into crowds of enemy players and vehicles below padding hundreds of kills, theres whole platoons of people doing this, waves of sundances just flying and dropping explosives, its complete chaos
@@rswpt But if they use C5 they can''t use a spawn beacon unless they got a friend. Me and my friend both got spawn beacons so we can have a high point to fly and be at the spawn no matter how many times we die and we can always fly. I understand if you think it's troll tactics, but it makes the game so much more fun and enjoyable, you should honestly try it because the maps are too big to just run around for a few minutes and die.
@@thehiddenone470 i know my bro, the use of the "troll tactics" name wasnt intended to offend you, nor i am saying that what you are doing is 'trolling'. people are just trying to find ways to have some fun on a broken game, and If you didnt play like that, and having to run over a large distance without any cover whatsoever you would probably get sniped down before getting to where the action is anyway.. you have fun, and keep safe
Interesting what you say about decision making. I only started playing BF games with 5. I wanted to become a better infantry player, increase my KDR, etc. I felt like playing the game helped me become better. As well as watching better players. Sometimes if I was on a squad with a really good player I'd follow them around with medkids and learn the maps and flow much better than running around on my own. The game was kind of punishing, but you'd die, learn not to do that again and make a different decision the next time around. It was really gratifying to see my name move towards the top of the scoreboard on average over the time I played that game. In 2042, I don't feel like I'm getting better at games by playing it. Oftentimes it's the middle of a match and I don't know what to do or where to go, or I'm left feeling like I couldn't have prevented my death by making a different better decision. Sometimes as an infantry player you just have to run through an open area, and you're probably gonna get rocketed but there's just no alternative to getting back in the fight. In BF5 open areas had high grass or burnt out tanks or some way to push through safely.
I'd say that's one of the most irritating problems that could easily be 180'd: The game is seemingly at war with it's own tone and atmosphere. Even the map design reflects this as even something like Manifest, which is easily one of the more tolerable ones, looks so unnaturally pristine throughout the entire match you'd probably wonder if you were playing Battlefield or COD Black Ops 4. Same goes for Discarded, Hourglass, Orbital, and Breakaway as well as Renewal. Because of this, the whole "planet on the brink of an apocalypse where humanity is on the path to destroying itself" tone and atmosphere is just...not there; It might as well not exist, which immediately creates a disconnect between what the narrative tells you and what the GAMEPLAY tells you. The narrative tells you it's this extremely depressing and violent world, but the gameplay tells you that it's a happy go lucky hero shooter with seemingly no organization at all. Meanwhile, if you look back at something like Battlefield 1 or even Battlefield 5 at times, the maps make it clear it's not a good place to be in; Not anymore, at least. In those games, especially Battlefield 1 imo, the map design is completely in tune with the tone the narrative sets up; The War To End All Wars, and one of the most bloodsoaked conflicts in human history. Entire cities are in complete ruin, the landscape is scarred and drenched in blood, and innocent people are suffering when most are just simply caught in the crossfire between gigantic armies relentlessly spilling the blood of other human beings for their own ideals.
I REALLY dont want BF to die cuz this is a possibility if they dont make enough money, but at the same time i want dice to feel how much we hate this game, so they can fix it. In my opinion, it still has a lot of potential if they change the direction of the game
Don’t worry muller battlefield won’t die, has been kidnapped and tortured by EA. It’s already dead, is this BF for you? No team work, no communication, no classes…
I get some of the anger towards any game launches these days. Maybe I’m just so abused I have Stockholm syndrome to game launches over the last decade. I don’t have any expectations a game launches smoothly anymore. With that said I’m loving this game. Only complaints so far are is def the hit reg and vehicles. Spend most of my time trying to kill vehicles cause no one else does. My only major issue I have is with the maps themselves. Is it just me or do they feel blah? We are in a battle right? Where are the AA guns, sand bags, barbed wire, blockades, anything to make it feel like we are in an actual battle.
game changers aren't helping either, they can't bite the hand that feeds them so they look through rose tinted glasses and pretend it's not as bad as it is
@@hairymotter5455 no we agree it’s bad. But we also see that is fixable. Right now the game is laggy, delayed, unresponsive at times at it Annoys the shit out of me but this all can be fixed in a “few months”.
@@hairymotter5455 just found out they have until Christmas to fix the game. Because they’re all going on Christmas break. so game might be shit for a while. Lol
I actually think 128 players is fine, but with the way the game currently operates in the fact that everyone has been given the tools and are encouraged to lone wolf whenever they play the game it impedes the team-play aspect Battlefield is known for and ruins the increased player cap. Bring back the classes, make the game more team oriented and you'll start to see the issues you have with the player cap dissolve. Edit: TL;DR Make the game more team focused instead of a CoD installment with an increased player count and map size.
One thing I’ve loved with everyone doing BF2042 critiques is how calmly they start and gradually get more and more pissed. I was waiting for the first inevitable F bomb. What a garbage ass game. Edit: Dude at 12:36 got FUCKED.
Theory: These games are being outsourced by AAA developers to mobile game developers. This would explain why so many games are coming out completely broken as if it was made by amateurs.
I think it depends if a game can handle 128 players. For example, the mod Project Reality (which evolved into SQUAD) for Battlefield 2 also had 128 players and it works pretty well there. If you have that large player count you need also a slower pace of the game though and DICE didn't slow down the gameplay but increased the speed compared to BF V
So, what do we do? I can’t go back to BFV. It’s probably a better game at this point, but I just can’t go back. I’ve played enough BF1 for my life. Same with BF4 and BF3. This was my last hope for a shooter. Vanguard is hot garbage. I can’t do another second of Warzone or any BR. Portal has potential but without rental servers, or even some sort of permanent server, it’s DOA. Hazard Zone? Farm sim is more interesting. I guess DICE is dead and so is BF. COD is dead. Halo is meh. What hell are we supposed to do?
I didn't figure this out, but the mouse input, at least for me was completely fixed by turning down the polling rate of my mouse. When I would aim before, if I moved my mouse too fast, the gun movement would be so far behind what I was actually doing I could take my hand off my mouse and it would still move. I kind of fixed that by turning my in game sensitivity way up, but the polling rate seems to be the culprit.
Hot take, 1 year extra wouldn't have been enough. BF needs a new engine, Unreal Tech is accomplishing everything Frostbite is on the player count front with higher graphic fidelity and more baked in features. Frostbite 3 isn't any different from Frostbite 2. It's frame work is from a time in which Core Extreme CPU's only had 6 cores. Now we've got Intel CPU's with 10 cores and AMD 12 cores and they're not being utilized to run the game. It's similar to the issues you see in Arma, but not as severe. Arma works fine with a few units and players, but as soon as you hit the 100+ mark, it completely shits the bed. DICE and EA need to take a serious look at an engine overhaul similarly as to what they did with BF3. BF4 onward has been an outright failure, and I would dare say that 2042 is in a better state than BF4 will ever be in terms of gameplay. The issues with performance, superbullets and hit-reg will likely never go away until a new engine is formulated.
@@hostilegoat It's got it's issues sure, same with 1 and V, but 2042 is a joke. It's objectively worse than all of them. If you openly admit you hate the previous like 4 games, it sounds to me like you just don't like Battlefield.
Unfortunately they designed this game around microtransactions. They saw warzone's success with operator bundle sales and they thought it was what the franchise needed. They need to completely overhaul the core of the game to have any chance of reviving this game
Great video and you're a damn good player. I always find it funny when people talk about Battlefield 3 positively. I've been playing since BF Vietnam, and I've never been as excited for a game as I was for Battlefield 3. BF3 was a huge downgrade in ever single way except for the engine itself. All the teamplay elements were nerfed (commander, squad size, squad orders, Battlelog bs), the maps were mostly linear, no mod support (Understandable, but BF2 had a HUGE mod scene) and lastly, the game being designed for console brought the overall scope down (destruction nerf) . BF4 I think fixed a lot of the issues though.
It’s also so weird how certain guns have recoil and feel like guns and others just feel like you’re out of ammo and not even shooting at all. Case and point, the M1 garand in portal. Use that and then switch to the 1911. You’ll feel the difference instantly.
i am going to have to say enders nailed this one. one more thing i think they should remove that no one asked for , WEATHER who cares about tornados and and rain and sand storms. If they took that out that has to help performance
I agree it's going to take them a year for them to salvage this game. By then the player base will be gone. Hardcore Battlefield and Shooter fans don't have the patience anymore after all the other Triple A dissapointments this year. EA are destroying Dice like they did with Bioware. I heard they originally had a 6 month window to finish it and EA pushed it to 6 weeks. If this is true EA deserves for everone at Dice to leave the publisher. That's just a recipe for disaster. EA brass needs replaced since they keep repeating the same mistakes expecting different results...S.M.H
They also broke the flying physics in this game, compared to bf4 it feels like your flying with half gravity, you shouldn’t be able to do a backflip in a heli 50 ft above the ground
Thanks for raising the defending breakthrough issues, it's so frustrating. Used to enjoy taking it in turns to defend then attack. There is no payoff anymore. People just run around like headless chickens. Way too many vehicles and spotting tech. Maps are just full of shipping crates or skyscrapers which lack destruction. Don't care for specialists either. Capture the flag was great fun on motorbikes, rush needs to be a main game.
his recoil control makes it look like its easy but if i tried that it would be shooting all over the place. he also knows which enemies to kill first too which i also suck at
Summarizing: BF2042 had no direction. Every single aspect of this game, from the narrative setting which collides with the tone of the specialists to the map design and the lack of consistent rewards for your efforts in game tells you how much Dice had no idea what to do exactly developing it.
Talking specifically about making the movement of infantry more advanced and vehicles require a brain to use, I 100% agree. In BFV you could out move and circle around an entire objective and clear it with enough skill. In 2042 you’re shoehorned into played 1 of 2 “specialists” that have a monopoly on being able to get places quickly. But that monopoly doesn’t mean shit when everyone can call in vehicles that are downright unstoppable unless you happen to have 3-4 people running some kinda anti armor capabilities. BF 2042 is like Campbells chicken soup that got dumped through a strainer and then served as just room temp broth.
The bit about making decisions; nailed it. That's it exactly. In BF3/4 you decide what to do next, who to target, which flag to push, in bf2042 you just wander around in a sea of utter chaos. You don't make any decisions at all other than which stupid specialist you hate the least.
Allegedly the scoreboard and all chat we're removed to players could feel safe and not pressured or be "harassed" or whatever. I have said it before and I will say it again, If your playing an FPS and a chat full of mean words and your own bad K/D ratio makes you want to burst into a flood of tears and quit playing then FPS game aren't for you. EA/DICE needs to stop pandering to People who hate First Person Shooters and video games in general.
Found this video a few days late, but I would like to share my experiences with the game as a last gen console player. That input issue exists on last gen in my playtime, I'll jump off of A1 on Orbital to parachute into A2 for breakthrough and my parachute won't open because it didn't read my input, so I have to spam my parachute hoping it will open. Next, I'll be firing any gun full auto, my gun will randomly decide to start burst firing because it can't read the fact I'm holding down fire. These aren't issues related to my controller, I have zero problems in any other games I play, this only exists in Battlefield 2042. My personal favorite is entering a match and no model is loaded so enemies are invisible, only popping up when I use Paik's ability, this problem will persist for several minutes. Next issue, rubberbanding, this has killed me more times than I would like to admit. Example, I'll be trying my hardest to evade a Bolte, only for the game to decide to rubberband me back into the shots of the Bolte thus killing me. Don't even get me started on the hit reg, and the fact that every weapon is super inconsistent because of spread. Those are my experiences so far, and thank you for the solid video. Really airs out all the grievances I have with the game.
The problem isn't 128 players. The problem is the lack of coordination and teamplay across one team and the bad map design. Planetside 2 has 10x the player number across three factions at any given time and it's a blast playing a huge war over map control.
Certainly worth $15 from experience of EA Pro for the first month. Quite a steal considering you get to play the Ult edition and ME legendary E and etc. surprised no one seems to talk about it much.
Mouse imput is still bugged, if I go from side to side real quick, my aim is slow and then ends up doing my movements a full second or 2 later. If I turn up my mouse dpi it only gets worse.
I dont think that an individual should have that much impact on tge game, I think that teamplay should be the key to victory. Too bad teamplay is nonexistent due to the removal of classes
it's sad to see what could be such a fun game be plagued by so many bugs and problems. Enders has voiced all of his concerns very well. Lets hope DICE take action and fix alot of these issues to make the game atleast get to the point where its in a playable state.
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if you played bf 2142, and then played this, you'd know this isnt the same dice that made the 2006 game.
Part of the problem is that EA has been in negotiations for 2 years over the FIFA license and it looks like they'll loose it. Battlefield franchise was pivoted to be a battle royal for monetization to make up shortfalls. Then when they realized that wasn't going to work they back tracked 50%. We are part way between full skin monetization and a full battle royal, which no one but EA wants. Why they dont make a new IP and let battlefield be battlefield is lost on me.
@@Katila234 ratio + nobody asked
Bro how do you play so well
@@nathantorresstanevil6958 good at game
Everything in this game is built and prepared for just one thing *monetization* .
But I can't keep playing bf4, I've been playing for 8 years now lol if they cam fix portal and add more old maps this game will be awesome
not even. this is a bad game for monetization, simply because you can't extract microtransactions out of a non-existing playerbase. the game needs to be good at a base level, so that people play at all, and so that people can get comfortable with the idea of spending even more money on it
That doesn';t really work out in the end tho, that';s why BFV was scrapped. No playerbase long term (aka live service) = no money. Which means this game will be abandoned like BFV except it will be even worse because this game on Steam already has close to the same playercounts as BFV, pathetic. At least BFV has core Battlefield features in it, this game doesn't.
@@mcgmgc Didn't say it would work ;). Just that it's all built and prepared for it. No long term playerbase? There is a easy fix for it.
1. reduce content on release
2. put in some new guns/maps every 3->4 months
4.combine it with paid battlepass for new fancy skins and stickers for the tanks/jets etc.. Or more likely new sentences for the specialists for the start/end
-->casuals will come back
@@Fabianthehunter I honestly believe this game won't be saved. The core is terrible. The map design alone makes it so even if they magically fixed everything tomorrow, the maps would still keep the game at a very low rating.
BF4 was atrociously bad at launch, pretty much unplayable but the core was good, it just needed fixing.
This game tho? It has nothing. It's missing basic features things like ECM, tv missile, aps, reactive, thermal, sraw. It just has nothing enjoyable. I don't know of a single person who doesn't enjoy practicing tv missiles, as an example. There is no content.
When you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one. That highly paid executives and AAA game designers don't get that is utterly shocking to me.
nah nah, you got it all wrong. It's not that they don't get it...it's that they don't care. They know. Trust me. But the $$$ keeps rolling in, while they laugh their way to the bank. EA knows at this point they can just do whatever they want. They are too big to fail, and they know it. So they'll squeeze every penny out of you while gleefully destroying franchise after franchise as they rake in millions.
@@thedrizztmanify when the imposter is sus! 😳
They don't care. It doesn't matter when they can get pre-order money before launching the game and a bunch of whales to support their abusive microtransactions. When every single publisher is letting this stuff happen, you start to notice that lauching a game on that state means their putting less money on the game already knowing people will pre-order. They're making their money and getting out before the launch even happens, i don't know why people still pre-order games.
Right mike d? Leave bf as bf, no some b.s. colleague of popular games. I'm so tired of shooting someone in the face on this game and only getting cod damage... apparently cod developers on bf2042s dick think it takes (3) 7.62mm bullets to the face to kill someone
They understand, they just don’t give a fuck because they know people will still buy this shit. Why make your game good when you can ship it out unfinished and fix it later through patches? Who cares if the public hates you if they all say your name? Any press is good press, after all. My point is that EA doesn’t care, and why should they? People will buy this crap regardless of whether it’s good or not. 2042 was a cash grab, and boy did it make money.
This is probably the best 2042 rant on TH-cam. You brought up every single concern and did not try to sugar coat the fact that we were sold an alpha-stage game for 60$
70 for me on ps5
and it was the only game I bought this year
I Wass an fucking idiot and got the digital version so I can't even refund this shit
ugh
Imagine If someone buy a ultimate edition.
@@lordkira9791 god i feel bad for you thank god i played this game in the 10 hour trial thingy tingy as a battlefield vet i completely agree with enders this game is fucking garbage
it was a good video for sure but angry joes videos on battlefield 2042 are golden ^^
Cost me 90 quid I got fleeced
When I first heard them say “128 players” my first thought was “well your netcode doesn’t work properly with 64 players, so how are you going to make it work with twice that?”.
After the BF5 debarcle with all the bugs and seemingly endless patches and hotfixes that never failed to not introduce new bugs, I too have zero faith in DICE being able to fix 2042.
Which is exactly why I haven’t bought it and I’m not planning to do so either.
Exactly
Yeah, especially if you realise that when you double player count, the number of possible interactions between players basically quadruples. The bad news is going 128 player is one way street. It would make them look really bad to go back to 64 players in future games, even if that was the best possible decision from both technical and gameplay perspective...
I played it for 30 minutes, the other 30 minutes was trying to get my $90 back from Microsoft lol
I knew 128 players was a gimmick
@@MrDwieszopyjackson exactly, I even prefer the 24 player days of Xbox 360
How broken does a game need to be before it's deemed illegal to sell? What if you bought a film and half of it was missing? What if it was nothing like the trailers? It would be great to have a high-profile court case to settle this.
A class-action lawsuit for false advertisement. I like it.
australia deemed fall out 76 as broken and fined the sellers who advertised it and sold it. most countries dont do much legality stuff with video games though
It's not going to happen because gamers are the most abused community ever. Gamers are the only ones that eat stuff that are not ready and still have the guts to defend it. When the next BF comes, people will still pre-order and nothing will change.
@@IvanM272 no it’s just because it costs a ton of money and time
I think the saddest part out of all this, is that these design choices are here to stay probably for every next battlefield. I've never ever seen a franchise that i love be ran into the ground before and if this is what it feels like damn.. I mean battlefield was like the only fps game i truly cared about and was special to me even if i played other fps games. It was that game where you could just hop in for a few matches and have heaps of fun and vibe but now it's an actual chaos shit fest which is trash, I played alot of cod but i didn't give a shit about it in the end so seeing battlefield turn into this.. just hurts /; I got to level 68 after hours and hours of playing and i literally just realised at that point, that i wasn't having any fun at all during all my playtime.
Bro,literally there won't be any other battlefield if they don't do something to make 2042 AT LEAST kinda fun and playable...
Battlefield will always hold a special place in my heart. As far as gaming goes, probably the special place. What we’ve witnessed at DICE in the last decade, slow at first but quickly building, is so incredibly sad.
@@lekonjames654 You kidding? This game gets released, people flock to buy it, the game is terrible but why would Dice care? They've already got megabucks just by owning the franchise, they could sell the next game wrapped in income tax notices and people would still buy it. At this point, the *only* objective these studios have is to make money, if people want to delude themselves into thinking the studio doesn't see people as anything other than complaining wallets then go for it.
Face it, this is battlefield from now on, and it's not going anywhere. Neither is COD
I'm sure they will drop bf2042 support soon enough and right after that they will replace bf with a new IP. I can't imagine that EA spends money again on something that doesn't work out like they want to
Honestly the vehicle situation is exactly like The heroes in battlefront 2, They're always up, easy to control and get kills with and killing them makes no goddamn difference at all because another just pops right up
This review is absolutely on point! The only thing I don't agree with is soldier movement... I prefer the boots on the ground aspect of battlefield and any changes that move it closer to COD or fortnight in this regard, I think is a step in the wrong direction.
lmao what? fortnite has pretty tame movement. its just the building.
@@zachwayt3874 I've actually never played it so I wouldn't know.
@@stitchcompany291 ofc you havent. i love battlefield but sometimes hardcore bf fans are goofy. you got hipster energy, you only like it because it’s different from the most popular games, without even understanding what makes those games popular.
@@zachwayt3874 your the one calling people names here.
Battlefield became popular because it was.... BATTLEFIELD!
I dont need formulas that make popular games popular injected into Battlefield and if I did, Fortnight certainly would not be at the top of the list. I would personally pull design cues from games like Tarkov, PubG and/or WW3.
EA has been butchering this series since BF1 and there's an entire video outlining the issues at the top of this thread. We're not goofy hipsters, were just tired of EAs shit.
@SuperUltreas Games I specifically said that's the only point I disagree with (b^-^)b
The HUD and UI is just absolutely awful. Reading the HUD is like trying to read something after being in a chlorinated pool for hours.
"I have absolutely no idea what to do in this situation" is something I started feeling in BF4 and it never went away.
BF3 was the last BF game with a real feeling of map flow and order, while BF4 and onwards has had this obsession with massive maps with no cover like Golmud Railway or Sinai Desert or Panzerstorm where infantry is a shitshow.
BF3 had this feeling of lanes, where you could roughly estimate where enemies were coming from and that's why flanks and surprise flag takes were so effective.
While there were still good maps in BF4, from that point onwards the games just feel like an ants nest where there are enemies at random places on the map at all times, running in all directions, firing at other random places on the map because there's no cover.
This, this so much. So much of this discussion has people talking about BF4 in the same breath as 3, when actually some of the rot set in then as well - some of the maps as you say are just uncomfortable. What do you do? Oh, you didn't manage to get a vehicle? Be fodder. Die, and die a lot. You had people camping on rooftops in BF3, but nowhere near the level of 4 - so many of the buildings in 4 had flat roofs deliberately to allow for spawn beacons and sniping on them, which sure is fun for the snipers but in maps with little cover you are just fodder.
Oh and the 25mm scout choppers like in this video where you have a nimble, hovering daemon that is easy to avoid return fire with, with splash damage? Good luck!
As far as i know BF3 was the last game where maps were designed by the level designer first (layout, objectives, lanes etc.) and then the art team had to make it look good.
In BF4 and onwoard it changed the other way around, the designers/art team would came up with a map wich looked cool as fuck and then the level designers had to make the map work.
It is simple to see wich is working better and thats why you have the feeling in BF4 and onwoards wich you have described perfectly. Not to say that BF4 BF1 and BF5 hadnt good maps but so many no cover shit shows with bad flow.
Shouldn’t talk about games you didn’t play bruv. Bf4 maps were great and nothing like you said, loads of cover.
BF1 was the same, well thought out maps with plenty of cover.
You missed out on a good bf game
@@allistairkumaran3582 I've played every BF since BF2, and I can tell you the quality peaked with BF3 and then started rolling downhill and never stopped.
The only reason you think there was no problem with 4 is because you've obviously never played 3 or any of the previous games.
BF1 has really good maps
3:05 made me subscribe. I've been hearing so many reviewers say 3-6 months and I'm sitting here thinking "You work in the gaming industry reviewing games. And you have a minimal idea of what development time frames look like?" not to mention this team of devs. From top to bottom have some things to work on and I dont think they have enough talent there to pull off a successful recovery.
It’s the money they prob won’t get for that kind of turn around at least with premium back in the day you knew dice was working on the next big thing and able to have something to look forward to while they fixed the launch game
probably because the franchise has a very long history of horrific releases into pretty good end products? that prediction is literally just describing the development cycle of pretty much every battlefield i've played. it's not a secret they rush to a deadline release a buggy mess and within 6 months it's a great game. did you play battlefield 4? they are ahead of the usual cycle because usually they aren't patching out crippling bugs until after their 2 month swedish holiday.
I completely agree with literally everything you said. I also loved the point you made regarding making an impact - nothing you do in this game makes you feel like you're making a big impact on the overall game
It feels like this game was given to marketers, lawyers, and directors who had no identity with Battlefield or it's community... They took so many liberties without even trying to connect with what makes this franchise so unique..
I am in agreement with everything you said. Here's what I think. I think it's gonna be a very long time before this game becomes playable for some. I still haven't purchased the game for reasons in this video. Please keep this up. You killed it in this video.
dont buy this game
dont do it
It won’t be playable and it will be left out before like BF5 was… basics of this game are way to broken to fix this game (128 pl, specialists,way to big maps ect.)
@@JAILEDforMEMES Exactly. EA is going to pull the ripcord before it's even thought of to get fixed.
@@lordkira9791 Shit I bought when it came out, my fucking fault for not following the BF franchise. Stupid I am for having hype even tho they fucked up BF2 (Star Wars).... I can't return the game cuz I bought it through the ps store 😔
I have said this before but giving them extra time would not make a difference. It's the content, design...
As a person a professional of business, I can say your depiction is 100% accurate and what I was talking about to other from early access. Everything you said I agree with its not just DICE either a lot of gaming and tech company's are plagued by the fake it to make it employees now. Earned my sub 100% keep up the great work of realness. 👍
It feels like gaming companies used to be run by gamers now its run by investors who knows nothing about games or gaming culture and just want to make money on "nerds"
Go back and play some BF1 and BF2042's shortcomings become immediately obvious. That game is so solid. The gameplay is great, the performance is great, and the atmosphere is epic. RIP Battlefield
And even BF1 was shit compared to Bf 3 and 4
@@Schullitz bf1 was better than those games but I also like the historic time period and I'm assuming your just saying this bc your don't like the ww1 setting and also btw just bc you don't like a game doesn't make it shit so please grow up
@@Meatman2042 it was shitty, I like WW1 too but the gameplay was shit compared to previous battlefields.
But I guess youre just to young
This game was my last attempt to enjoy a new Battlefield. I was really so excited and as soon as I saw that the full release date was so soon after the beta, I knew it was over.
Honestly if they just ported over the mechanics, movement, and general class structures of bfv this game would have been fine. People would have actually liked it. Have no idea why they had to reinvent the wheel... and then break it.
@2:11 “This is not 'Battlefield 3’ DICE anymore”
I was really so hyped. Been hype for this game since they announced that they were done with BF5 updates to focus on 2042. And here I am going home everyday to play an over 15 year old game aka Eve Online smh at least I got that.
I'd rather see the style of classes in BF5 and see how it goes I do not like specialist setup. Maybe it would be better if I could choose what I look like and then choose my specialist path.
Enders, trust me Dice will listen to what you say but do the opposite! Because they don't want to increase the gap between good players and bad ones, rather simply make everyone equally bad. They probably don't want to create an SBMM system, but they also don't want pro players like you to dominate the game. They thought making vehicles so overly strong that noobs also will have a chance to have fun. However, they created another kind of domination (vehicles against infantry), and most noobs players get farmed even more. Vehicle play is a unique and fun part of this game and it is a delicious side dish, but they don't understand it can not be tolerated by most players when vehicle play became the main course. So don't expect this game to become what you pictured one day as the developers can fix bugs but they can not fix management's broken brains.
Not to mention their staunch arrogance. They act like their shit doesn't stink. The fanbase had been making the faults of this game known in every social outlet available and DICEs first move was to release a Santa skin for an operator like wtf?! They don't see anything wrong with 2042 and that's why were screwed on top of the problems the OP listed in this game.
Thank you for explaining the skill gap issue with vehicles and infantry, as someone who has been a good infantry and vehicle player since bf3 it has been hard to explain the issue with 2042 but you hit the nail on the head, the skill gap is getting thinner and thinner and is most apparent in the jets where they are basically useless 😕
You get a like for accurately conveying how long this game will take to get fixed or should have been delayed.
Great video. DICE should play it every morning before they start work. The game is massive disapointment on all levels. I hate the chaos from the 128 players, everything is completly random. The maps are terrible, I am running only to get sniped. Hopefully they will add the smaller versions of the maps from PS4 and do some infantry only maps.
the maps on ps4 are shit too
I am on Xbox one and the 64-player modes are pretty pointless and chaotic too. I think the map layouts are flawed beyond just the player count. Bfv and bf1 had flow to maps. Bf2042 doesnt.
What's actually hilarious about the Portal xp nerf is that you can do the exact same thing in Solo / Co-op Conquest. May not be as efficient but still results in easy xp farming for weapon and vehicle unlocks. I tested it a couple nights ago for three hours and continued to gain weapon/vehicle unlocks even after I go the xp cap reached message on my screen.
Yes you can unlock all the attachments through Solo/Coop but it stops counting the moment you reach the end of T3 mastery.
You are correct on not knowing how to play some situations.
This video is actually fucking beatiful. Mandatory viewing for every DICE employee please.
something i havent really heard anyone talk about is how the games continue to take better graphics cards and cpus but the actual graphics seem to be getting more cartoony. i feel like bf4 was the last realish looking BF.
No, I say Battlefield 1 was the most real looking.
Honestly this 15 minute rapid fire masterpiece of a rant only scratches the surface. The game is mind blowing to me.
I just can't believe they omitted so many of BFV's improvements. What reason did they have to get rid of crouch running?
They got rid of crouch running, they got rid of resupply stations and made it so vehicles have unlimited ammo and health regeneration, they got rid of the scoreboard, they got rid of the AMAZING character customization options, they got rid of single player, they've decreased the amount of destruction, they took away the class system, I mean, the list goes on and on...The question I have is: WHY ISN'T THE PORTAL CONTENT PART OF THE BASE GAME? The portal maps, the portal guns, shouldn't they all be available in All out Warfare?
@@thepainkillerr Those are all legit questions but im beyond even trying to make sense of this mess. Refunded and moved on.
Absolutely spot on analysis, we have nothing but memories of what Battlefield used to be in our lives. I feel personally responsible for the buddies of mine I got hooked on BF4 and BF1 in wasting their money on this garbage.
I’ve dumped entire mags into people and have just gotten murked because no hits registered.
Its kinda sad. Im a pretty easy person to please and Ive loved all the bfs since bc2, even the bad ones. I loved hardline and bfv despite not most people liking them, but this, I cant even force myself to like this game. As a long time fan with over 4000 infantry main hours, I had hope but now I dont even play this game anymore and its only been 1.5 weeks.
I agree with basically everything. 128 players are too much. with each person being a random variable, the amount of players just leads to chaos. I could kill 15 people and solo push all the way to the point but it doesnt matter cause theres enough people to hold the line and my team cant follow through. It’s disheartening knowing that you can be good at this game but it doesnt matter. And dont even get me started on the hitreg, lack of content, map design, and vehicle spam
Yea the fact that there is no way you can be useful or change the outcome of a match, it’s the worst for me. Playing feels meaningless, for me there is no reason to play, no adrenaline no intense moments, no stupid fun. Is die respawn over and over.
Yeah I fell you man. It's just so strange, somewhere in early development someone must have tested the 128players. So many chokepoints, so much open space if you dont stay in chokes. If you do a play and takes out 7-10 people, you get insta shotted from the next wave of people rushing in with sniper smgs.
@@BlancoMD thats exactly why I quit for now. I could top frag with 120 kills but we’re still going to lose. Unlike in previous games where if you do good, you most likely will get rewarded with a win. bf4 locker? epic flank and team follows through and you win. This game? push to a point and tell ppl to follow through but no one does and soon its 1v28 on the point and then the game gets hard stuck. Before I quit I got 124 kills and we still managed to lose
A good example is silks most recent video, 162 heli kills and his team STILL lost. That would not happen in the older games.
I think its safe to say that most people like being rewarded with a win when they do well. It just feels like you have no power in changing the tide of battle.
Specialists should have been a thing kinda like reinforcements in battlefront 2, where if you rack up enough points, you get to play as a strong character with more health and special weapons
Someone said they felt like this probably started out as a different game entirely, a sort of battle royale fps for a general and younger audience, and then they scrapped the idea and turned it into a Battlefield game. Makes sense with all those weird changes.
I don't mind A specialist system.
I mind THE specialist system they've developed for this game, where the specialists are identical on both sides, where their looks and voices and lines are extremely cringe, and where they aren't functional as team-oriented classes would be.
An extra year or so for this game + an extra year of content for bf5 would’ve been fantastic
Could’ve gotten a Russian experience
One year=extra specialists and 1 more empty map
@@Walamonga1313 lol maybe
it'd funny that you mentioned the mouse input because I always felt like my aim was garbage while using KB&M
Everyone use Sundance and a spawn beacon on a high point. You can always fly into enemies and spawns and get lots of kills and always chaotic every single life.
Sundance destroy all front fights
I don’t feel the 128 player work really was that much work; the problem was that they didn’t seem to do any in depth testing with 128 players. The balance of the game is all off - as you said the vehicles are ridiculously overpowered
I’m so disappointed, I’m playing battlefield 5 now. I wish they supported battlefield 5, there was so much potential. They missed so many historic maps. This game is garbage, feels like a ps2 game. So huge maps, so boring, graphics, specialists they made it like call of duty, so many features removed. I’ll opt for a refund. The last battlefield game is battlefield 5. It’s a failure of a game. I hope next battlefield they bring back everything they removed in 2042, especially the classes and yes we don’t need 128 players. Thank you for covering this garage game.
No server browser? Man! i agree with graphics, i am playing on ps5 can’t see where’s the enemies are and textures doesn’t even load.
If they don't fix 2042, there probably won't be a next Battlefield.
My classes are gone 🥺
imagine living your life like this lol
This is why exactly why I don't buy new games till waaaaaay later on. I've been done with the greed and lack of caring.
I actually have been experiencing hardly any bugs on the Xbox Seris X version and the game has been running very smoothly and I actually enjoy playing the game with the randomness of the 128 players chaos though I prefer mainly the breakthrough game mode though my big complaints are the big balance issues of the vehicles, lack of transports located around the map, lack of weapons, and the crappy voices of the characters (also noting that flying with controller vs keyboard is much more challenging and is something that needs more mastering than in BF4)
I'm enjoying it despite the major issues and bugs, I've been playing on ps5 and haven't run into a crazy amount of crashes or bugs so my playtime has been pretty ok. The thing that pisses me off is the fact that it spawns you out in the middle of nowhere away from a defending objective.
Very mild rant, in a way that is not screaming at the screen when game is messing your day. I like that. Hit reg and persistent servers where I can actually find the server my mates are at would be my top picks to start fixing. I can live with the cringe specialists, after all I've seen the Japanese katana women of the German Reich in World War 2, the alternative reality simulator BFV.
I also thought that the higher player count would be awesome but I was wrong, and the extra space on maps is so useless.
Well we can hope you revisit this video in however many years and be astonished how much the game has changed (for the better).
The devs liked BRs with lots of players and big maps but hate that they suck and die in the first 5 minutes so they thought they can make their own version of it. They didn't stop to think why the BRs work with big maps and 100+ players and why a game like BF won't.
Great review, I totally agree with everything you just said. They've totally destroyed conquest. The maps are too big and 128 players suck, specialist suck, vehicles suck too.
GREAT points, Enders. This is one reason I would like to see XP/Progression in Portal Mode. In that mode we can at LEAST make 64 (or less) player games, use different/better maps, remove the call in system, remove the ranger, etc... The ONLY reason I don't go to Portal Mode is that I'm still trying to unlock my stuff. So, I play a mode that I do NOT enjoy just so I can unlock the "toys" for a "sandbox" that I do enjoy.
It's just sad.
Edit: I would like to see your reaction/thoughts after the December 2nd Patch (tomorrow). Looking forward to hearing your input.
I feel the dog aimbot lol. I parachuted in and got hit by every bullet from so far away I couldn’t even see who was shooting me and I died upon landing. I immediately was like what a fucking hacker… then bam it was the robo dog with aimbot set to max lol.
You forgot the unavailability of server browser....and disabling crossplay !!!
totally agree they really need some smaller modes, since they did specialists it has some potential as a fun tdm or maybe even ctf game, but the conquest or breakthrough isn't it with 128, feels like planetside
Use Sundance with a spawn beacon on a high point, it is a complete game changer and makes the game feel so chaotic and fun. Constantly fly to enemies with no traveling and instantly kill them and their entire teams until I die and repeat because I will always be at a high point to fly to them again and again and again. This is my first battlefield and it's completely different after this and I only averaged 5 to maybe 15 kills a match and went negative and after this I never had a bad match ever.
@@thehiddenone470 people now use troll tactics as fly with sundance and throw C5 into crowds of enemy players and vehicles below padding hundreds of kills, theres whole platoons of people doing this, waves of sundances just flying and dropping explosives, its complete chaos
@@rswpt But if they use C5 they can''t use a spawn beacon unless they got a friend. Me and my friend both got spawn beacons so we can have a high point to fly and be at the spawn no matter how many times we die and we can always fly. I understand if you think it's troll tactics, but it makes the game so much more fun and enjoyable, you should honestly try it because the maps are too big to just run around for a few minutes and die.
@@thehiddenone470 i know my bro, the use of the "troll tactics" name wasnt intended to offend you, nor i am saying that what you are doing is 'trolling'.
people are just trying to find ways to have some fun on a broken game, and If you didnt play like that, and having to run over a large distance without any cover whatsoever you would probably get sniped down before getting to where the action is anyway.. you have fun, and keep safe
Interesting what you say about decision making. I only started playing BF games with 5. I wanted to become a better infantry player, increase my KDR, etc. I felt like playing the game helped me become better. As well as watching better players. Sometimes if I was on a squad with a really good player I'd follow them around with medkids and learn the maps and flow much better than running around on my own. The game was kind of punishing, but you'd die, learn not to do that again and make a different decision the next time around. It was really gratifying to see my name move towards the top of the scoreboard on average over the time I played that game.
In 2042, I don't feel like I'm getting better at games by playing it. Oftentimes it's the middle of a match and I don't know what to do or where to go, or I'm left feeling like I couldn't have prevented my death by making a different better decision. Sometimes as an infantry player you just have to run through an open area, and you're probably gonna get rocketed but there's just no alternative to getting back in the fight. In BF5 open areas had high grass or burnt out tanks or some way to push through safely.
Just a reminder that Planetside 2 supports 2000 player servers and it ran better in 2014 than BF2042 does today.
I wish that cluster blockade problem that stops the flow would get fixed somehow then it would be the best large scale ego shooter I know of!
Prettiest apocalyptic setting with total lack of dark tone immersive atmosphere. Do I fight for my people or sunbathe....don't know.
I'd say that's one of the most irritating problems that could easily be 180'd: The game is seemingly at war with it's own tone and atmosphere. Even the map design reflects this as even something like Manifest, which is easily one of the more tolerable ones, looks so unnaturally pristine throughout the entire match you'd probably wonder if you were playing Battlefield or COD Black Ops 4. Same goes for Discarded, Hourglass, Orbital, and Breakaway as well as Renewal. Because of this, the whole "planet on the brink of an apocalypse where humanity is on the path to destroying itself" tone and atmosphere is just...not there; It might as well not exist, which immediately creates a disconnect between what the narrative tells you and what the GAMEPLAY tells you. The narrative tells you it's this extremely depressing and violent world, but the gameplay tells you that it's a happy go lucky hero shooter with seemingly no organization at all. Meanwhile, if you look back at something like Battlefield 1 or even Battlefield 5 at times, the maps make it clear it's not a good place to be in; Not anymore, at least. In those games, especially Battlefield 1 imo, the map design is completely in tune with the tone the narrative sets up; The War To End All Wars, and one of the most bloodsoaked conflicts in human history. Entire cities are in complete ruin, the landscape is scarred and drenched in blood, and innocent people are suffering when most are just simply caught in the crossfire between gigantic armies relentlessly spilling the blood of other human beings for their own ideals.
I REALLY dont want BF to die cuz this is a possibility if they dont make enough money, but at the same time i want dice to feel how much we hate this game, so they can fix it. In my opinion, it still has a lot of potential if they change the direction of the game
Don’t worry muller battlefield won’t die, has been kidnapped and tortured by EA. It’s already dead, is this BF for you? No team work, no communication, no classes…
BF is dead. It died with 5.
This was just the nail in the coffin.
I hope the game dies so dice finally gets the message we don’t want their crap.
I get some of the anger towards any game launches these days. Maybe I’m just so abused I have Stockholm syndrome to game launches over the last decade. I don’t have any expectations a game launches smoothly anymore. With that said I’m loving this game. Only complaints so far are is def the hit reg and vehicles. Spend most of my time trying to kill vehicles cause no one else does. My only major issue I have is with the maps themselves. Is it just me or do they feel blah? We are in a battle right? Where are the AA guns, sand bags, barbed wire, blockades, anything to make it feel like we are in an actual battle.
Thank you for saying this! People saying the game will be good in 6 months are pissing me off; the core game is a step backwards and just isn’t good!
game changers aren't helping either, they can't bite the hand that feeds them so they look through rose tinted glasses and pretend it's not as bad as it is
@@hairymotter5455 no we agree it’s bad. But we also see that is fixable. Right now the game is laggy, delayed, unresponsive at times at it Annoys the shit out of me but this all can be fixed in a “few months”.
@@wantedfreak12 I hope you're right
@@hairymotter5455 just found out they have until Christmas to fix the game. Because they’re all going on Christmas break. so game might be shit for a while. Lol
@@wantedfreak12 not going to happen is it? too many problems
the specialist fucked up everything, it was one of the main dynamics that could be be done away with, and yes 128 players needs to go.
I actually think 128 players is fine, but with the way the game currently operates in the fact that everyone has been given the tools and are encouraged to lone wolf whenever they play the game it impedes the team-play aspect Battlefield is known for and ruins the increased player cap. Bring back the classes, make the game more team oriented and you'll start to see the issues you have with the player cap dissolve.
Edit: TL;DR Make the game more team focused instead of a CoD installment with an increased player count and map size.
teamplay in battlefield????? what?
One thing I’ve loved with everyone doing BF2042 critiques is how calmly they start and gradually get more and more pissed. I was waiting for the first inevitable F bomb. What a garbage ass game.
Edit: Dude at 12:36 got FUCKED.
Theory: These games are being outsourced by AAA developers to mobile game developers. This would explain why so many games are coming out completely broken as if it was made by amateurs.
I think it depends if a game can handle 128 players. For example, the mod Project Reality (which evolved into SQUAD) for Battlefield 2 also had 128 players and it works pretty well there. If you have that large player count you need also a slower pace of the game though and DICE didn't slow down the gameplay but increased the speed compared to BF V
So, what do we do? I can’t go back to BFV. It’s probably a better game at this point, but I just can’t go back. I’ve played enough BF1 for my life. Same with BF4 and BF3. This was my last hope for a shooter. Vanguard is hot garbage. I can’t do another second of Warzone or any BR. Portal has potential but without rental servers, or even some sort of permanent server, it’s DOA. Hazard Zone? Farm sim is more interesting.
I guess DICE is dead and so is BF. COD is dead. Halo is meh. What hell are we supposed to do?
This ^
Hunt Showdown.
Halo infinite is about all there is left that is decent
quit gaming like I feel I might do
Wondering the same thing
I didn't figure this out, but the mouse input, at least for me was completely fixed by turning down the polling rate of my mouse. When I would aim before, if I moved my mouse too fast, the gun movement would be so far behind what I was actually doing I could take my hand off my mouse and it would still move. I kind of fixed that by turning my in game sensitivity way up, but the polling rate seems to be the culprit.
Hot take, 1 year extra wouldn't have been enough. BF needs a new engine, Unreal Tech is accomplishing everything Frostbite is on the player count front with higher graphic fidelity and more baked in features. Frostbite 3 isn't any different from Frostbite 2. It's frame work is from a time in which Core Extreme CPU's only had 6 cores. Now we've got Intel CPU's with 10 cores and AMD 12 cores and they're not being utilized to run the game. It's similar to the issues you see in Arma, but not as severe. Arma works fine with a few units and players, but as soon as you hit the 100+ mark, it completely shits the bed.
DICE and EA need to take a serious look at an engine overhaul similarly as to what they did with BF3. BF4 onward has been an outright failure, and I would dare say that 2042 is in a better state than BF4 will ever be in terms of gameplay. The issues with performance, superbullets and hit-reg will likely never go away until a new engine is formulated.
Wait what was that at the end about it being better than BF4 gameplay will ever be? You're not serious right?
Lmfao what the fuck. Delete this trash.
@@jimboc669 I fucking hate BF4. I don't care that the "community" likes it. A spade is a spade, BF4, 1 and V are all shit
@@christian7200 no.
@@hostilegoat It's got it's issues sure, same with 1 and V, but 2042 is a joke. It's objectively worse than all of them. If you openly admit you hate the previous like 4 games, it sounds to me like you just don't like Battlefield.
Agree, I'd of course like more features to be added so we can play comp but let's just start from what you've mentioned.
Unfortunately they designed this game around microtransactions. They saw warzone's success with operator bundle sales and they thought it was what the franchise needed. They need to completely overhaul the core of the game to have any chance of reviving this game
Laser pointer breaks when you sprint. Now you cant unsee it.
Great video and you're a damn good player. I always find it funny when people talk about Battlefield 3 positively. I've been playing since BF Vietnam, and I've never been as excited for a game as I was for Battlefield 3. BF3 was a huge downgrade in ever single way except for the engine itself. All the teamplay elements were nerfed (commander, squad size, squad orders, Battlelog bs), the maps were mostly linear, no mod support (Understandable, but BF2 had a HUGE mod scene) and lastly, the game being designed for console brought the overall scope down (destruction nerf) . BF4 I think fixed a lot of the issues though.
It’s also so weird how certain guns have recoil and feel like guns and others just feel like you’re out of ammo and not even shooting at all. Case and point, the M1 garand in portal. Use that and then switch to the 1911. You’ll feel the difference instantly.
the devs needs to be held accountable
50 v 50 would have felt good on medium size maps and that would bring 5 player squads back
The feeling when you are one of his victims at 9:00 😢
i am going to have to say enders nailed this one. one more thing i think they should remove that no one asked for , WEATHER who cares about tornados and and rain and sand storms. If they took that out that has to help performance
I agree it's going to take them a year for them to salvage this game. By then the player base will be gone. Hardcore Battlefield and Shooter fans don't have the patience anymore after all the other Triple A dissapointments this year. EA are destroying Dice like they did with Bioware. I heard they originally had a 6 month window to finish it and EA pushed it to 6 weeks. If this is true EA deserves for everone at Dice to leave the publisher. That's just a recipe for disaster. EA brass needs replaced since they keep repeating the same mistakes expecting different results...S.M.H
They also broke the flying physics in this game, compared to bf4 it feels like your flying with half gravity, you shouldn’t be able to do a backflip in a heli 50 ft above the ground
100%
I've already moved on myself, boys n girls, to the ones who was on the Battlefield with me in the older titles, it was a pleasure.
I respect this guy for his true thoughts
Thanks for raising the defending breakthrough issues, it's so frustrating. Used to enjoy taking it in turns to defend then attack. There is no payoff anymore. People just run around like headless chickens. Way too many vehicles and spotting tech. Maps are just full of shipping crates or skyscrapers which lack destruction. Don't care for specialists either. Capture the flag was great fun on motorbikes, rush needs to be a main game.
i alway love how accurate pc player cab wipe out multiplie enemys. With controller its super hard to quick aim on the next enemy . GG bro!
watch Zlaner play
his recoil control makes it look like its easy but if i tried that it would be shooting all over the place. he also knows which enemies to kill first too which i also suck at
that's the input lag
@@hairymotter5455 that’s the shit development
I play on pc and i cant get kills xd might be because i suck but i think its mostly bad hit reg and super laggy gameplay
Summarizing: BF2042 had no direction. Every single aspect of this game, from the narrative setting which collides with the tone of the specialists to the map design and the lack of consistent rewards for your efforts in game tells you how much Dice had no idea what to do exactly developing it.
Talking specifically about making the movement of infantry more advanced and vehicles require a brain to use, I 100% agree. In BFV you could out move and circle around an entire objective and clear it with enough skill. In 2042 you’re shoehorned into played 1 of 2 “specialists” that have a monopoly on being able to get places quickly. But that monopoly doesn’t mean shit when everyone can call in vehicles that are downright unstoppable unless you happen to have 3-4 people running some kinda anti armor capabilities. BF 2042 is like Campbells chicken soup that got dumped through a strainer and then served as just room temp broth.
The bit about making decisions; nailed it. That's it exactly. In BF3/4 you decide what to do next, who to target, which flag to push, in bf2042 you just wander around in a sea of utter chaos. You don't make any decisions at all other than which stupid specialist you hate the least.
Hey man,
'Subscribed' I went down a 2042 rabbit hole and honestly you hit the nail on the head. I just Subscribed so keep this content coming 🙌
Allegedly the scoreboard and all chat we're removed to players could feel safe and not pressured or be "harassed" or whatever.
I have said it before and I will say it again, If your playing an FPS and a chat full of mean words and your own bad K/D ratio makes you want to burst into a flood of tears and quit playing then FPS game aren't for you.
EA/DICE needs to stop pandering to People who hate First Person Shooters and video games in general.
dam dude, your aim is nuts
Found this video a few days late, but I would like to share my experiences with the game as a last gen console player. That input issue exists on last gen in my playtime, I'll jump off of A1 on Orbital to parachute into A2 for breakthrough and my parachute won't open because it didn't read my input, so I have to spam my parachute hoping it will open. Next, I'll be firing any gun full auto, my gun will randomly decide to start burst firing because it can't read the fact I'm holding down fire. These aren't issues related to my controller, I have zero problems in any other games I play, this only exists in Battlefield 2042. My personal favorite is entering a match and no model is loaded so enemies are invisible, only popping up when I use Paik's ability, this problem will persist for several minutes. Next issue, rubberbanding, this has killed me more times than I would like to admit. Example, I'll be trying my hardest to evade a Bolte, only for the game to decide to rubberband me back into the shots of the Bolte thus killing me. Don't even get me started on the hit reg, and the fact that every weapon is super inconsistent because of spread.
Those are my experiences so far, and thank you for the solid video. Really airs out all the grievances I have with the game.
Hi. Love you. Bye.
Dude.. I subbed the moment you said the part about farming sim being better than BF..LOL..made my day.
The problem isn't 128 players. The problem is the lack of coordination and teamplay across one team and the bad map design. Planetside 2 has 10x the player number across three factions at any given time and it's a blast playing a huge war over map control.
Certainly worth $15 from experience of EA Pro for the first month. Quite a steal considering you get to play the Ult edition and ME legendary E and etc. surprised no one seems to talk about it much.
Mouse imput is still bugged, if I go from side to side real quick, my aim is slow and then ends up doing my movements a full second or 2 later. If I turn up my mouse dpi it only gets worse.
looking at you ripping through these poor souls in game made me feel tingly. thanks
I dont think that an individual should have that much impact on tge game, I think that teamplay should be the key to victory. Too bad teamplay is nonexistent due to the removal of classes
games should reward skill
it's sad to see what could be such a fun game be plagued by so many bugs and problems. Enders has voiced all of his concerns very well. Lets hope DICE take action and fix alot of these issues to make the game atleast get to the point where its in a playable state.