The build quality is great, and the battery life has really improved. I had no idea the cpu is 8 cores, i know the 365 has 10 and the other models have 12 cores which i would have liked in this model, i believe they will use the ryzen 9 370 and 375 for the P14 series since they're supposed to be the highest performer in thinkpads. Great video as always ! Was looking forward to this review.
Love the way you give the performance (GB6) in all 3 power modes. That's very helpful. You also do a terrific job showing wattage and fan noise. Thank you for your outstanding reviews.
@MashITTech Ouch! Not worth it with a CPU multi-core performance below 700, according to Cinebench R24. Maybe if an employer pays for it. Otherwise, might look into Asus Zenbook S 14 Aura edition.
I can only agree with the review. I've had my T14s for a week now and it makes a very good impression. Very good build quality and in energy-saving mode you can easily manage 8 hours of mixed use. The lightness and size makes it the perfect laptop for me that can do everything, whether I'm at home or on the road.
i think for this model 58Wh battery is fine, the CPU is power efficient and the FullHD IPS display is also good in this regard, we should have a full day battery life for regular usage. I noticed they placed a 75Wh battery in the new P14s with Core Ultra 1 CPU but the battery life is similar mainly due to the larger 14,5'' display that has a 3072 x 1920 resolution that eats more juice.
These days there is very little difference between them. The x1 carbon is always intel and often has better screen options where as the t14s has ryzen as an option but gets worse screen options so you pay the extra for an intel machine
@@MashITTech yeah, pay extra for less capable graphics 🙂 Lenovo has become pretty meh in the past 15 years. If it only weren't for the Trackpoint I miss on other brands that are more to my liking (Framework 13)
I'll never buy an OLED laptop until they resolve the PWM flicker situation. Screens do not need to flicker. Unnecessary flicker puts the strain on everyone in some ways
@@MashITTechthat's due to advanced display power saving bias which is activated on battery mode. Turn off content adaptive brightness and contrast setting. Gave me headaches on IPS 14 panel as well since Lenovo power monitor service was constantly adjusting the screen brightness in background and disabled it in task scheduler
12:00 You can charge it with a 45w charger also, at least the T14 Gen4 you could. I bought a 45w Anker Nano charger that I use while on the go and it's great. When turned off, you can charge it with any usb-c charger, I have tested with a 15w / 5v charger and it works. It's very easy to charge and that is just another reason for my love for Thinkpads. The T14 Gen4 supported up to 80w charging while being connected to a 100w charger while the T14s Gen4 supported 60w even when connected to a 100w charger, I would assume the Gen6 would be similar.
@@MashITTech I am able to charge P14 8840hs with 20w (old mobile charger). Its slow i know, but notebook is charging faster, then draining batery , even at work. So in case of emergenci, you have this option.
im actually torn between this and yoga slim 7i aura edition. should i pick this one up or the other? which do you think is better. both battery is ok for me cause i dont really work outside, i just want a light laptop with premium built quality and good keyboard
Just remember that no matter what the limited battery tests show and the limited graphics test show, the Intel chips will never stack up in terms of driver support and longevity as the Intel chips just run too hot internally.
I'm disappointed in the lack of screen options and the use of the AI 360 instead of the 370. For less money you can get an Asus ProArt that is much more capable.
Amazing video! you always mention upgrading ssd yourself to a faster one, but it seems to come with a nvme m.2. In that case, how can you tell which ssd is faster and compatible?
@5:55 Thx for stating the obvious that 1200P looks great on a 14"laptop screen. I am tired of some tech reviewers calling it low resolution and instead promoting 2K or higher displays. There's no reason a laptop with an iGPU to be pushing that many pixels, which also consumes more battery unnecessarily.
Yep, as am I. Its all I hear. I can understand people requesting OLED for the better colours and blacks but I really don't need a higher pixel density on the 14",
Oh thanks for the info. Now I have two Oled laptop and I think my Hp 1040 G11 is better than my Zenbook. So actualky are you saying that X1 Carbon Gen 13 is a no go?
I'll be honest: this looks bad. RAM is soldered (even though Strix Point CAN do normal DDR5-5600 up to 256GB according to AMD's specsheet), WiFi/BT is soldered. The screen is FHD only according to Lenovo's website, it uses the worst possible Strix Point CPU with no options, and with all that, the battery is super small. They still don't sell 64GB RAM versions on the website, lol. And its cost is nowhere close to being competitive. This is a disposable laptop with all these limitations on configurations and aftermarket upgrades. I'll pass on this one.
agree with most of your points except. 64gb is available on UK Lenovo site. Soldered on ram whilst being non upgradable is at least fast 7500, looking at benchmarks with previous T14 gen 5 and its SODIMM 5600 ram it came behind both this laptop and the Gen 4 T14 with soldered ram
are there any news on ryzen ai 300 series arriving on the P series thinkpads? I'm about to get one and would be nice to get the zen5 cores and rdna 3.5. But I do want upgradeability in ram and the rj45 port
Nice video. Personally I am holding out for the new Thinkbook 16 Gen 7+ with the AI 9 365 cpu, which should be due any time this month. Looks like a promising package. Outside of China, it will only be available in Germany and the UK (woot), according to psref. Any thoughts on it?
Thanks for the heads up, I didn't see this one announced! my only issue with the think book 16's is they often only have poor quality screen options. If they give us the 1600p 165hz panel like the P1 I will get one in for review
Best camera and microphones would be on Snapdragon laptops unfortunately. Just because Snapdragon has internal video processing chips for cameras because it's based on their phone technology which the other brands just don't have.
@@Balu-1988 You're welcome! The cameras on the newer Ryzen parts aren't bad either, but they just aren't as good as the ones on the Snapdragon laptops.
It was my mistake to buy a T480s old new stock from China, first time using Thinkpad keyboard and I am hooked, also the build quality feels premium, I have used Apple MBP16 and different Asus Zenbooks, but Thinkpad has its own charm Unfortunately T480s has an old CPU and compiling Kotlin/Springboot or Android takes ages to complete I am looking at this model with 64gb memory/1tb ssd at around $1600 (tax and shipping included) here in PH, I hope I could get one soon
They are always really expensive on launch! Give it a couple of months and you can probably get it under 1000. In the UK we just had an amazing sale on the Gen 5 at almost 50% off!
Typical Lenovo, watch this drop to 1k around xmas time! I specifically chose 256gb as I always put a larger SSD in my laptops and lenovo max out at 1tb
They charge such a high price for design, durability and ports. I don't understand why these laptops aren't powerful to run games, just make them thicker and add an nvidia card Lenovo.
hate the fn+ctrl swap and that stupid copilot button
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So... What do you think about this year cpus from AMD and Intel? It looks to me Intel did a better job and AMD is just iterating the zen series year over year. I am in the market for a new laptop and looks to me the slim 7i aura edition is nowadays the best option?? I also love the T14 gen5 amd version... So much different laptops between each other
I wanted this but then saw they removed OLED option on it. PSREF does not list one at all so there won't be one. And 1920 x 1200 in 2025 sucks when you get a lot of text. I would be fine with some kind of 2K IPS display. Such a shame really. They only butcher AMD models because of their partnership with Intel..
Had to return mine because of the annoying high-pitched sound of the fan. And even besides this annoying whistle sound, on balanced mode fan is too loud and it's always on, imho. Otherwise, this is a nice machine.
@Mash IT how was the fan in your unit? i have the same problem as @ps12spb. fan was too loud and noisy even in lowest energy mode it runs most of the time, only sometimes stopped
are you guys both on the ryzen model? fan on mine was quiet on balanced unless I was gaming. wasn't audible at all in web browsing office work. Mine was a retail unit I bought as well not a cherry picked review unit
Oled oled glorified by TH-camrs but pain in the eye if u used for work .. such as coding or excel .. it gave me stain on my eye just even like 2 hour work
T14 is always integrated gfx on the ryzen side but ryzen onboard gfx aew pretty good. I had hoped the 880m would be a big step up over 780m but it’s a bit disappointing. The new arrow lake onboard gpu was much more impressive
@@happygofishing I have a Lenovo Ideapad 7 Carbon and it has a 14" OLED 3k screen; it is 2.5 years old and I use it daily. There is no burn in. My Sony Xperia 1 IV is 2.2 years old now; no burn in at all other than a minor shadow in a single color for the battery life indicator in the corner. You cannot see it other than with test slides at max brightness and looking carefully for it.
@happygofishing Well, I don't use laptops for a decade. I don't have any current decade old laptop that I am still using today. My oldest laptop that I actually still use on a regular basis is about five years old. I have laptops that are 10 years old, but I don't see that the screen would break in this time because I wouldn't be using it every single day. So if you think about the average everyday use case of a laptop, it will probably not be used all day every day for 10 years. I can tell you that I have a Sony Master Series OLED 65" from 2020, which is almost five years old at this point in time and is used on a very regular basis. It also has absolutely no burn-in whatsoever.
The build quality is great, and the battery life has really improved. I had no idea the cpu is 8 cores, i know the 365 has 10 and the other models have 12 cores which i would have liked in this model, i believe they will use the ryzen 9 370 and 375 for the P14 series since they're supposed to be the highest performer in thinkpads. Great video as always ! Was looking forward to this review.
Yes, I am sure the t14 will also get the 370 if they ever release it! Usually they release t14 and t14s at the same time
Love the way you give the performance (GB6) in all 3 power modes. That's very helpful. You also do a terrific job showing wattage and fan noise. Thank you for your outstanding reviews.
Was waiting for this review thank you!!!
Nice video! Looking forward to the video on X1 Carbon Gen 13 Aura edition.
Just waiting for the price to drop a bit in the UK, it's currently £2500 starting price!! The pain of having to buy my review units!
@MashITTech Ouch! Not worth it with a CPU multi-core performance below 700, according to Cinebench R24.
Maybe if an employer pays for it. Otherwise, might look into Asus Zenbook S 14 Aura edition.
I can only agree with the review. I've had my T14s for a week now and it makes a very good impression. Very good build quality and in energy-saving mode you can easily manage 8 hours of mixed use. The lightness and size makes it the perfect laptop for me that can do everything, whether I'm at home or on the road.
I love thinkpads but they need to put bigger batteries in them. 58Wh is a joke
i hope the next gen T14 Gen 6 has a 65wh battery or more
i think for this model 58Wh battery is fine, the CPU is power efficient and the FullHD IPS display is also good in this regard, we should have a full day battery life for regular usage. I noticed they placed a 75Wh battery in the new P14s with Core Ultra 1 CPU but the battery life is similar mainly due to the larger 14,5'' display that has a 3072 x 1920 resolution that eats more juice.
It's 33 hours of battery
This always confuses me, what is the difference between the X1 Carbon Line and the T14s? How does one decide?
These days there is very little difference between them. The x1 carbon is always intel and often has better screen options where as the t14s has ryzen as an option but gets worse screen options so you pay the extra for an intel machine
@@MashITTechthank you….really helpful
@@MashITTech yeah, pay extra for less capable graphics 🙂 Lenovo has become pretty meh in the past 15 years. If it only weren't for the Trackpoint I miss on other brands that are more to my liking (Framework 13)
Excellent video as always!
Thanks so much :)
I'll never buy a laptop with an OLED screen until they improve the power efficiency. Right now, they use too much battery.
yes they do. I love OLED but the PWM most use give me insane headaches so I always go the IPS route
That plus the whole burn-in thing. I like my Amoled tablet but I don't want it on a laptop/desktop.
I'll never buy an OLED laptop until they resolve the PWM flicker situation. Screens do not need to flicker. Unnecessary flicker puts the strain on everyone in some ways
@@MashITTechthat's due to advanced display power saving bias which is activated on battery mode. Turn off content adaptive brightness and contrast setting. Gave me headaches on IPS 14 panel as well since Lenovo power monitor service was constantly adjusting the screen brightness in background and disabled it in task scheduler
12:00 You can charge it with a 45w charger also, at least the T14 Gen4 you could. I bought a 45w Anker Nano charger that I use while on the go and it's great. When turned off, you can charge it with any usb-c charger, I have tested with a 15w / 5v charger and it works. It's very easy to charge and that is just another reason for my love for Thinkpads. The T14 Gen4 supported up to 80w charging while being connected to a 100w charger while the T14s Gen4 supported 60w even when connected to a 100w charger, I would assume the Gen6 would be similar.
Thanks for the heads up. I didn't have anything lower than a 65w in the office to test! That's great info though.
@@MashITTech I am able to charge P14 8840hs with 20w (old mobile charger). Its slow i know, but notebook is charging faster, then draining batery , even at work. So in case of emergenci, you have this option.
im actually torn between this and yoga slim 7i aura edition. should i pick this one up or the other? which do you think is better. both battery is ok for me cause i dont really work outside, i just want a light laptop with premium built quality and good keyboard
Currently have ThinkPad T14s Gen 3 amd and love it. But, I am leaning toward Lunar Lake for upgrade because of great battery run and graphics.
Yeah the lunar lake gfx really surprised me. I would get the X1 carbon Gen 13 in but the price is insane in the UK at the moment and I cant justify it
Just remember that no matter what the limited battery tests show and the limited graphics test show, the Intel chips will never stack up in terms of driver support and longevity as the Intel chips just run too hot internally.
Not sure about other places, but in Taiwan, there's IPS options for screens now.
You buy a thin pc if you beed a thin pc, it you don't need small space or weight, go for a standard size pc, they got more upgrade options
0:12 : What did you do there?
3d modelling with blender on an external display :)
I'm disappointed in the lack of screen options and the use of the AI 360 instead of the 370. For less money you can get an Asus ProArt that is much more capable.
I had an Asus, and the build quality is nowhere near this Thinkpad.
Amazing video! you always mention upgrading ssd yourself to a faster one, but it seems to come with a nvme m.2. In that case, how can you tell which ssd is faster and compatible?
Any nvme gen3 or better is compatible as long as it's 2280 size (the standard size)
@5:55 Thx for stating the obvious that 1200P looks great on a 14"laptop screen. I am tired of some tech reviewers calling it low resolution and instead promoting 2K or higher displays. There's no reason a laptop with an iGPU to be pushing that many pixels, which also consumes more battery unnecessarily.
Yep, as am I. Its all I hear. I can understand people requesting OLED for the better colours and blacks but I really don't need a higher pixel density on the 14",
How long do Lenovo laptop like this one become half price?
how loud are the fans?
30 db?
almost inaudible in light use and about 46db when fully maxed out
Oh thanks for the info. Now I have two Oled laptop and I think my Hp 1040 G11 is better than my Zenbook. So actualky are you saying that X1 Carbon Gen 13 is a no go?
How is the build quality compared to older t14s?
Feels on par with my Gen4. both feel rock solid
I'll be honest: this looks bad. RAM is soldered (even though Strix Point CAN do normal DDR5-5600 up to 256GB according to AMD's specsheet), WiFi/BT is soldered. The screen is FHD only according to Lenovo's website, it uses the worst possible Strix Point CPU with no options, and with all that, the battery is super small. They still don't sell 64GB RAM versions on the website, lol. And its cost is nowhere close to being competitive. This is a disposable laptop with all these limitations on configurations and aftermarket upgrades. I'll pass on this one.
agree with most of your points except. 64gb is available on UK Lenovo site. Soldered on ram whilst being non upgradable is at least fast 7500, looking at benchmarks with previous T14 gen 5 and its SODIMM 5600 ram it came behind both this laptop and the Gen 4 T14 with soldered ram
If it had better screen options, I would've gotten this over the P14S gen 5
Does this model still have the annoying issue where the touchpad becomes laggy when you plug it in?
I have not come across that! What version suffered with that?
@@MashITTech I've seen it on the P14s gen 3 and P14s gen 5. Weirdly, if I use a specific grounded power supply, the issue doesn't show up.
are there any news on ryzen ai 300 series arriving on the P series thinkpads? I'm about to get one and would be nice to get the zen5 cores and rdna 3.5. But I do want upgradeability in ram and the rj45 port
nothing yet. Hope we some news on P series or standard T14 with 370 soon
hello sir, this fps in dota 2 are they with high settings and resolution or its on low spec ?
Nice video. Personally I am holding out for the new Thinkbook 16 Gen 7+ with the AI 9 365 cpu, which should be due any time this month. Looks like a promising package. Outside of China, it will only be available in Germany and the UK (woot), according to psref. Any thoughts on it?
Thanks for the heads up, I didn't see this one announced! my only issue with the think book 16's is they often only have poor quality screen options. If they give us the 1600p 165hz panel like the P1 I will get one in for review
@@MashITTech It comes with a 3.2k 165hz display and a haptic touchpad too!
@@Drado220 OMG! That could be an absolute winner then! I will keep my eye on the store and pick one up
Thank you! Please recommend a compact 14 inch laptop on Windows with the best camera and microphones for long video calls
Best camera and microphones would be on Snapdragon laptops unfortunately. Just because Snapdragon has internal video processing chips for cameras because it's based on their phone technology which the other brands just don't have.
@@Jimster481 Thank you for your reply. If only ARM were cheaper, since there is no such software support. I wonder what the author meant 6:54
there are amazing quality cams out there, but most choose not to use them. Surface use good webcams and the new M4 Macs are good.
@@Balu-1988 You're welcome! The cameras on the newer Ryzen parts aren't bad either, but they just aren't as good as the ones on the Snapdragon laptops.
the web cam is super
it would be interesting to compare with Apple MacBook Air m3.
It was my mistake to buy a T480s old new stock from China, first time using Thinkpad keyboard and I am hooked, also the build quality feels premium, I have used Apple MBP16 and different Asus Zenbooks, but Thinkpad has its own charm
Unfortunately T480s has an old CPU and compiling Kotlin/Springboot or Android takes ages to complete
I am looking at this model with 64gb memory/1tb ssd at around $1600 (tax and shipping included) here in PH, I hope I could get one soon
thats a good price for 64gb and 1tb but personally I always buy the lowest SSD and put in a fast 2 or 4tb drive in there
@@MashITTech2tb or 4tb ssd are expensive here in PH, and the 1tb upgrade from 256gb cost the same if you will buy the 1tb ssd here
Use freight forwarders and amazon to prevent corruption tax from boc
@@ginglee4199 lenovo ph is currently on sale so its cheaper here compared to US
Very nice machine, but it's really expensive! I'm gonna wait a while, see if they drop in price in the near future.
They are always really expensive on launch! Give it a couple of months and you can probably get it under 1000. In the UK we just had an amazing sale on the Gen 5 at almost 50% off!
1500 quid for a 256gb ssd? Would need to be some discount code
Typical Lenovo, watch this drop to 1k around xmas time! I specifically chose 256gb as I always put a larger SSD in my laptops and lenovo max out at 1tb
@ good to know!
Missong the ethernet and fullsized sd card slot
Good review as always.
The "military testing" is just a marketing gimmick, though.
Yeah you are probably right but all my thinkpads have taken a beating and none have failed on me yet!
"switched control and function keys" .. what? Control key is always on the far left.. what you talkin bout Willis?
Not on thinkpads or macs
Thinkpad keyboard is S-tier
They charge such a high price for design, durability and ports. I don't understand why these laptops aren't powerful to run games, just make them thicker and add an nvidia card Lenovo.
Anyone put Linux on this?
How does t14 differ from x1 carbon
It's shame that Lenovo can't put 12 core 370 pro in it
hate the fn+ctrl swap and that stupid copilot button
So... What do you think about this year cpus from AMD and Intel? It looks to me Intel did a better job and AMD is just iterating the zen series year over year. I am in the market for a new laptop and looks to me the slim 7i aura edition is nowadays the best option?? I also love the T14 gen5 amd version... So much different laptops between each other
So it's true. 5 zen5c and 3 zen5 core. Weird.
Yes, seems to perform pretty well given its low power budget on the t14s. Bit disappointed with the 880m though, thought that would perform better
I wanted this but then saw they removed OLED option on it. PSREF does not list one at all so there won't be one. And 1920 x 1200 in 2025 sucks when you get a lot of text. I would be fine with some kind of 2K IPS display. Such a shame really. They only butcher AMD models because of their partnership with Intel..
its particularly odd when other T14s get OLED and even the yoga risen edition I just reviewed had the OLED. now idea why no option for this model!
Has anyone installed Linux on this?
Had to return mine because of the annoying high-pitched sound of the fan. And even besides this annoying whistle sound, on balanced mode fan is too loud and it's always on, imho. Otherwise, this is a nice machine.
@Mash IT how was the fan in your unit?
i have the same problem as @ps12spb.
fan was too loud and noisy even in lowest energy mode it runs most of the time, only sometimes stopped
are you guys both on the ryzen model? fan on mine was quiet on balanced unless I was gaming. wasn't audible at all in web browsing office work. Mine was a retail unit I bought as well not a cherry picked review unit
@@MashITTech Yes, sure, AI 7 360.
@@MashITTech my was a campus model retail bought ryzen ai version
That red button will always bother me.
no RJ45 🙄
no, the t14s is slim and doesnt have one, the standard T14 does but they haven't made a gen 6 yet
Oled oled glorified by TH-camrs but pain in the eye if u used for work .. such as coding or excel .. it gave me stain on my eye just even like 2 hour work
I personally can’t use OLED, they give me the worst migraines but it’s all people moan about if I review something with an IPS screen 😂
ASUS Zenbook S 14
Zen
Get yourself a Probook, save yourself £500.
Just integrated gpu what? And no oled bad value and welcome to 2020
T14 is always integrated gfx on the ryzen side but ryzen onboard gfx aew pretty good. I had hoped the 880m would be a big step up over 780m but it’s a bit disappointing. The new arrow lake onboard gpu was much more impressive
No oled = no go
no burn in = yes go
@@happygofishing I have a Lenovo Ideapad 7 Carbon and it has a 14" OLED 3k screen; it is 2.5 years old and I use it daily. There is no burn in.
My Sony Xperia 1 IV is 2.2 years old now; no burn in at all other than a minor shadow in a single color for the battery life indicator in the corner. You cannot see it other than with test slides at max brightness and looking carefully for it.
@ 2.2 years is not good enough for a 1000+ device that should last a decade.
@happygofishing Well, I don't use laptops for a decade. I don't have any current decade old laptop that I am still using today. My oldest laptop that I actually still use on a regular basis is about five years old.
I have laptops that are 10 years old, but I don't see that the screen would break in this time because I wouldn't be using it every single day. So if you think about the average everyday use case of a laptop, it will probably not be used all day every day for 10 years.
I can tell you that I have a Sony Master Series OLED 65" from 2020, which is almost five years old at this point in time and is used on a very regular basis. It also has absolutely no burn-in whatsoever.