american basketball culture is centered around athleticism, iso plays and highlight reels. european basketball is focused on fundamentals, ball movement, off ball play, and playing as a TEAM.
@@SLSMe1. Jokić wasn't in his prime. 2. It wasn't Dwight (Men Raper) Howard but they played 3 Centers in their Rotation on Jokić. 3. It's a Team Sport. 4.Individually Jokić achieved more then Howard ever will.
You may be right but we talk about Europe as such if you did selection of biggest EU players that game would be interesting. Luka, Giannis, Wemby, Joker, Sabonis, Bogdanovic and so on. That would be also team full of stars :)
Despite the fact that USA is not doping tested like other countries because of their influence. It's not the situation on the world cup. Did you win there?
Jokic doesn't have athleticism? Athletics is not just high jump and sprint. Jokić is not a racehorse, but a workhorse. Strong and durable! His stamina is incredible, and the strength to move almost any player in the post.
Im french although we like to antagonize each other with Spain... These guys really have this thing for sport IQ, beyond basketball. I'm coming from football, and they just changed the whole game, bringing smaller guys but highly skilled, very intelligent, read the game wayyy ahead of others... yeah unbeatable during a decade until some other teams (including France) caught up and now it's back again since 3 years where they win every trophy across all age categories from the under 15 to the senior team winning the European cup..
Because in Europe we don't watch sport to be entertained. We watch it in the hope that our team wins. We are entertained only from winning. End of story. We are not happy if we loose. we don't go to game to watch a specific player, we go to watch and support the team. In Europe you are thought that the team is always no1. there is no star player, the team is the star.
@@billysummers1616 haha no. My fav European team is Panathinaikos. and for national team I support Serbia even though I am Romanian. When your team exceeds expectations you can't be disappointed.
Exactly. Which is why I don't get why people complain about load management. If I'm the home team, I would be so happy if the lakers come and lebron and AD isn't playing because they are load managing.
lol does this also apply to all the Man City & Madrid fans (given the generalization of your comment on all sports)? As a German I can certify this comment as cap. While it’s true that European sports teams tend to have a deeper cultural/ historical connection to the region they’re in (unlike in the US where teams will often rotate cities), saying that fans don’t watch the sport to be entertained is ridiculous. There’s a difference between passion & obsession, and I don’t think classifying fans in Europe as obsessed is a proper classification
@@AlMA-od5ns never ment to say they are obsessed just we don't look at sport as entertainment. as European I consider entertainment, movies, music, art, theatre, etc, but not sport. I watch sport for the beauty of sport, for the spartan element, for pushing the limit further. but I can't say I am ever entertainted. Even when I am neutre watching cycling I appreciate the strength and fighting element.
Europe is developing talent using the soccer club model. Luka Doncic entered the Real Madrid program at age 13. America passes children from city league, to middle school, to high school, to university. Long term development is almost impossible unless your dad is coaching you and taking responsibility for your development.
Been wondering, any sports club in US, (maybe excluding football/soccer) dont have academy program that can promote youth prospect to the main team, do they?
@@RubbaDuckie32Nope. The big 5 sports leagues in the US recruit directly from public and private middle schools and high schools. They were able to do so for so long because American sports operate on the Franchise/Major-Minor system. In Europe clubs are connected via promotion/relegation and the professionalization occurs younger (between ages 9 to 18).
European basketball focuses more on team play, ball movement and outside shooting. There’s more of a priority on fundamentals and execution. Whereas in America, there’s more of an emphasis on athleticism, one on one play and of course the famous slam dunks.
The first 40 years of American basketball was teamwork ball movement fundamentals. After dr j, jordan, America has fallen in love with the athleticism. Nothing wrong with that. Now European players are somewhat in their first 40 years even though they been playing for a lot longer. At some point Europeans are gonna be in love with athleticism over fundamentals.
Kobe who grew up in Italy always preached this after he retired, he warned everyone about how Europeans were coming.... Maybe the only American star to ever appreciate the coaching and fundamental development in Europe and why he will always be more loved than LeBron globally. Makes me sad actually that clowns like Shaq, Draymond, KD etc... Feel its so easy the trash European ballers, i bet Kobe would have stuck up for them over US players who think they're only good because they have elite athleticism no actual skill.
They trash European players because they are hurting/insecure/scared. KD has been an insecure diva since the beginning because he has not lived up to the expectations.
A country that treats its Sports as entertainment first, will always lose against a continent that treats Sport as a competition. Did you know that in a way, Sport tournaments replaced wars in Europe? When England is playing Germany in a Football game, the excitement is through the roof in both countries. Americans don´t really understand that, but give it some time. When you get better at Football or Europe gets even closer in Basketball, you will feel the heat :P
Correct. When I watch NBA games, I'm always surprised to see fans singing and dancing even if their team is down by 30. This could never happen in Europe. In Spain, France or Italy, people would probably boo their own team. In Serbia, Greece or Turkey, they would throw projectiles on the court.
@@jackjax7921 Because Europe is not a country, Bozo. All the best european players are not in the same team. Lol. Team USA begged a guy from CAMEROON to play with them. It's pathetic.
@@jackjax7921 Europe is not a country, kid. Best european players are not in the same team. Team USA begged a guy from CAMEROON to play with them. What a joke.
Love Cuban but I'm sorry to say that's too basic (high level) of an analysis. Not enough practice? I'm privileged to have played pretty much all around (Spanish middle school, American HS, Spanish national team under ages, American university, Spanish and French pro divisions)... and it is definitely not a matter of practicing more or less. My clear conclusion was the lack of overall diversity and ball knowledge of American coaches and assistants. Running extremely basic plays, practicing repetitive sets without clear focus on what is trying to be improved, sticking to very 'old school' approaches to the game and/or over relying on 1:1 basketball. 'IQ' is not enhanced simply by 'practicing more', but by practicing better
Maybe he meant practicing all posts vs just one? I don't know, mentioning his 13 yo kid every two seconds doesn't speak that highly of his ball knowledge (unless we hear of Jake Cuban as a draft prospect in 4-8 years)
It’s true, European basketball is more about team plays, a lot of coach involvement. Whereas in the US a lot of times they let the individual talent, which is off the charts, take over.
Also: Club + federated League structure. In Europe there are official leagues at every level and talent is spotted and nurtured waaaaay earlier. All the euro clubs have teams going all the way down to 7-8 year-olds. Until the US adopt a similar approach, international players will keep taking more and more spots in the NBA.
I don't think Europian are more skillful than Americans, but they definitely smarter when it comes to playing basketball, they play the game the right way.
I think it has to do with being born with maybe less than ideal athleticism they have to learn ways to play. A lot of American players are born with natural athleticism so they don’t develop their game because they dominate in their younger years
@@fdhfghfgrhrrth There were some very athletic players in Europe, its not really the issue here. The issue is the game here is taught and played differently. Played differently like this, first its all about the team, second coach is the law not players or stars, and third win is what matters and not your personal stats. And now about learning game, at least I can say of when I played and when I was kid which was when Kukoc played in Chicago (he is from my home town), every single player learned post moves be it big or small, everyone learned tactic, everyone learned how to pass the ball efficiently, how to minimize mistakes and turnovers, shooting FT's. We worked a lot on those basic skills and if coach would see you try some flashy move more time than not it was bench time. In US youngsters are more focused on highlights, flashy dunks or assists, breaking ankles and shooting deep threes. Dont get me wrong those are all skills but its way of skipping the game of basketball, skipping the tactics. Kids get athletic and to fast, they move into drive to fast and committed and can't stop any more. Its a game of basketball not just sprint or high jump competition. To much speed without control usually create mistakes and prevents you from reading game good.
@@fdhfghfgrhrrth😂Europe is a big continent not everyone is built the same that comment just sounds stupid the only difference is the USA has the size of a continent too pick players of course it will be easy having top players
@@fdhfghfgrhrrth🤣 As a Serbian I can only compare us to USA people as superior in any sense, physical, intellectual. You can easily see people from Europe dominate NBA and you make statement how they have to find ways , bla, bla... Do you know how giant Serbs, Croats, Bosnians, Montenegro people are? Dutch average heights? USA athleticism 😂 Try to join world doping testing for the Olympics to see the results. Never mind, you can always buy the best players so you would be good again 😂
1:10 in Europe, boys in team U15 and lower , We got 3-4 practice trainning per week(we going to school day to day ) , and 1 game in Saturday or Sunday , like proffesional leaque basket in Europe Practice its mean - individual skill set, and team defense and offense playing 4pracitce per weak- to 1 full game USA 4-5 games per week, zero practice as team
They are told that it’s a team sport from the beginning, yet we believe to make it we have to be Jordan. Just go to a LA Fitness and play with randoms at least one person not passing the ball no matter what
You have to be a willing, gifted and high IQ passer most of the time. Jokic - Antetokounmpo - Doncic Top U.S. guys who are next in line still on that killer mentality and less of a passing threat. Tatum - Edwards - Morant The only U.S. players in my opinion who are all around type like Lebron: Cunningham - Banchero - Haliburton
If Jokic wasn't a great athlete, he wouldn't be playing at the highest level. It just looks different. You can't back down AD and guys like that without athleticism
As an American born from European parents, I can see what he’s saying….although I totally identify as an American I have noticed for 50 years now that there seems to be something a little different about me, sort of humble/efficient/intelligent that gives me an edge. I’ve always been able to outsmart and outwork my peers any time I feel like it. I often start slow, get overlooked, sometimes get made fun of….but the longer time goes by and the tougher the job gets, the more consistently I end up rising above those around me. That said, I love our freedom and diversity here, I love the fun and showmanship, and I think there’s plenty of room for everyone to do things their own way. Life is to be enjoyed, we’re all in this together, not everyone can be a star, not everyone needs to be a millionaire. Relax. All good 😊
Are your parents from the same European country/nation ? I guess there would be difference to be noticed. How you described yourself I would guess your heritage is from some Balkan or south country. English, French, German are almost equal to USA standards 😂
Cuban said it. It's 330 million people against the rest of the world. Long term, MVPs were going to be foreigners. What KD doesn't understand is that they win because they're lucky Europe is not one (or two or three) big country (or countries). That's the only reason they get a medal, sheer country size.
So weird people being freaked out about "slow unathletic white dudes from Europe" when not so long ago Larry Bird was literally the US version of that and the baddest man in the entire league. And as said elsewhere - Kobe said this was going to happen. He was right.
Europeans kids plays with professionals early on, also they get minutes to play, so they have to develope skills very fast, the best collage basketbal team cant compete with an average European team.
Embiid is not a European player. Never played in Europe. One year in college + NBA. French threw citizenship at him hoping he would play for their national team. He was more interested in a gold medal. Are we that prone to generalizations that an African is called a European player? An African-born superstar who modeled his game after one of the greatest African players of all time, Hakeem 'the Dream' Olajuwon. It's time to acknowledge that Africa is going to be the next basketball powerhouse. And welcome it. And foster it. And acknowledge it. And discuss it.
I was a bit shocked that he included Embid among the European players. Indeed Embid is Cameroonian, American and only got the French citizenship a few years ago but has himself never lived here. That being said I'd like to correct your assessment. If France and mostly the French basketball federation was really keen on the potential of having Embid play for the national team, he himself, at the time, showed that he was eager to achieve the same goal. Here's an abstract of the letter he sent to no other than French President, Emmanuel Macron: « Après discussions avec la Fédération française de Basket-ball, mon choix est désormais arrêté. Je souhaite engager les démarches pour obtenir une naturalisation française et ainsi être sélectionnable avec les Bleus. Je ne souhaite en conséquence jouer pour aucune autre équipe nationale. » If you don't read French, it says: "After talking with the French basketball federation, my choice is made. I wish to start the process to get the French citizenship that would allow me to get selected by the French national team. Thus, I don't want to play for any other national team." As the saying goes, it takes two to tango, and Embid was very much part of it. I guess he then decided that he had better odds to win the Olympics by playing for the US. I think it was the right choice. He has more links to the US than to France. It would have felt weird to see him play for a country that he doesn't really know even if it would have been a major addition to the French team.
LeBron 39 Curry 36 Durant 36 Serbians cant beat old dudes. The mere fact LeBron won Olympic MVP at age 39 means the skills of Americans is miles better than Europeans. LMAO
@@jackjax7921What are you trying to tell us? That the US did not bring their A team to Paris? That 350 mn US dont bring up as many younger talents as 7 mn Serbs?
Usa had to put together a squad of collectively the best 15 players they’ve ever been able to to win the Olympics and it wasnt a walk in the park. They even felt they had to get Embiid who isn’t American. That was against teams who had at most one world class player on their squad. If that doesn’t tell you what the landscape is then nothing ever will. In 1-2 decades the NBA will be at LEAST 40% international players and that number will only grow. The developmental system in America is archaic and the culture of individualism in America sports combined with the inability to get over the obvious superiority complex will mean it’s inevitable. There’s a reason why USA don’t dominate team sports that have high participation worldwide.
Cuban’s 1st point is not valid : 5 of the last 6 are from Europe, which although is OUTSIDE the US, nonetheless is NOT THE WORLD either. USA and Europe is roughly the same population, and you could even argue that Basketball has more market share in the US than in Europe. So no, you can’t say it’s in big part à question of statistics and demographics
I get that European players focus on fundamentals and at this rate they may someday catchup tobus , but we are comparing a CONTINENT with double the population to a country , and they still have a long way to go and time to make up for.
Popularity of a sport is much more important than population size, basketball is almost non-existent in many european countries, for example here in Switzerland 90% of people couldn't name you a single basketball player outside of Kobe and the biggest basketball games here get like 300 spectators in a good year. If population size was really that important China and India would dominate most sports, but look at China for example they have 1.5 billion people and pumped 10 billion dollars per year into football with the goal to become a top football nation, but they can't even qualify for the world cup, they just lost 7:0 against Japan a few weeks ago lol.
It's also a cultural thing.. Americans are way more used to playing basketball as a streetgame which means they play more on their own responsibility and have to rely on themselves (hence the handles and athletisism) while you see a lot less basketball on the streets of europe which therefore means that euros play more in a controlled and coached environment (hence less entertaining and more IQ). On top of that there is also the cultural difference in how the braging/trash talking and entertainment is viewed on the two continents. In europe these things are more frowned upon which means you're less rewarded for selfish behaviour even if it's entertaining.. heck they tried to put on Helene Fischer (a very popular german singer) as a halftime show in a Bundesliga game once and it was a disaster for her. The entire crowd just whistled and booed for the entire performance so no matter how popular, euros don't wanna see anything but athletes at a sporting event.
Lets get a few facts straight about why the U.S. is rightfully saying it has the best National team. The U.S. has 343 million inhabitants and a long tradition in playing basketball. Is a National sport together with football and baseball so kids play it everywhere and a youth league slash College system is established. Of course they produce amazing palyers. But making a comparison with Europe is not possible because the US had never to compete with a European team as there is no European All Star team. Andssoccer is national Sport number 1,2, and 3 in most European countries and that is why they dominate it, but thats a different story. There are 27 different Basketball National Teams in the EU. Germany has 80 million people and some great NBA players. France has 60 million people and some great NBA players. Same goes for Spain. Greece has 10 million people and some great NBA palyers. Serbia has only 7 million people which is 2% of the US population but has an MVP. Slovenia has 2 million people but has an MVP. So if you want to make a fair comparison you imagine an European All Star team and then expect them to be dominated by the US Boys? No freaking way! The US Boys may dominate single European nations but against an EU allstar team those games would be tight for the US boys to win. The question why Europe has produced great NBA players is also becuase Euro leauge basketball is a tough league to compete in. NBA is of higher quality but the difference is not huge anymore. Euro leauge is tough and players who dominate there also often can dominate in NBA. Especially you get tackled much harder in Europe and supporters/fans can be intense so you are under high pressure when you play Euro league basketball. Just put Luka, The Greek Greak, Joker, Schröder, Wagner, Wembanyama, and many other great European players ina team and you have a fair match between US and Europe.
also, in soccer too much pressure from parents in little Ligue , that's why kids are not technically good , as soon as the kid get the ball parents start screaming at him and telling him what to do
Basketball is becoming a more global sport as the years go on. With the NBA's promoting of their league a lot of people internationally start becoming fans and playing basketball. The number of American players in the NBA is going to continue to become less as more people around the world are playing basketball
Shannon should make a podcast with thierry henry, he is one of the best soccer player, play with messi and love basketball, athletism is not the first for him.
Love Thierry, but If he had to pick a soccer representative to talk on his platform it has to be either Beckham or Zlatan. Both fluent in English and can talk in interviews. Zlatan hilarious 😂
@@123FUG33 Henry make a podcast with jj redick was awesome. Ferdinand have a podcast and he Said r9 and Messi are the players that impress him the most, it would be interesting to hear him But yeah Zlatan Is in the top to be in a podcast ,agree
Durant say that Usa's basketball is the best in the world because they win. It's easy, they're the basketball country with more inhabitants by far. As an example, Serbia are 4 million people. Meanwhile, USA are 355 million. It shouldnt be even close. And a lot of states are bigger than countries like Spain, France or Germany. So, in order to be fair, USA should play by states against us. Let's See if the would win then.
I don’t understand why people can’t just accept a flaw and adjust. International players are coming and are coming hard. US players need to improve When you say that, you always ear a « but »….but we are still the best…but we won…but more of the best players are still from the US…but…but.. People totally miss the point because they can’t handle a constructive criticism. People need to see it like this: if US kids combine their athleticism with the euro IQ, it will be game over for the next 100 years. That’s all…. And if they don’t, in the 25 years to come, the table will be flipped.
The thing is that many Europeans players played football before they played basketball so they get the iq from that when the pass when to to a run when to lure players etc etc thats why. In the US everything is about athleticism iq beats athletism
I think there shouldn’t be a grouping together of all non-American players, and subsequent labeling as “European players”. Africa is not Europe. South America is not Europe. Canada is not Europe.
Throughout this interview they seemed to ignore the fact that Europe is not a single country…a combined European All-Star team with Jokic, Giannis, Doncic, Wemby, Porzingis, Gobert, etc. is statistically probably a better team…and that;s just the NBA players…the European league also has its own depth of talent…
BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT FUNDAMENTALS WHILE US AMERICANS ARE MORE ABOUT LOOKIN' KOOL & FLASHY & ARE STYLES OF PLAYIN'=DID YOU SEE THAT KOOL MOVE I JUST DID 🤔😏😂
Well....that is true. I tell my Sons to be obsessed with techniques and being fundamentally sound. The highlights will come...some if not most of that is in game instincts. So concentrate on fundamentals.
One of the many reasons of why primetime NBA was the 90s during Jordans era....players did crossovers and etc not to embarrass other players but to score.....no wasted movement
When american players statpad to get assist and rebounds, people claim they are padding their stats. When European statpad for rebounds and assist, they call them high IQ
In terms of knowledge of the game and training methods the rest of the world has caught up with the US, however from what I see, basketball is still a small sport in most countries all over the world,so that’s always a disadvantage for other countries to compete consistently. A bit like Americans playing soccer, there’s not enough passion and not enough players in the base of the pyramid to steadily rise to excellence.
Cuban: “We have the best players. It’s not even close.”. Isn’t it? Because the best four players in the planet are not from the US: Jokic, Giannis, Luka, and Embiid. And the best younger player is European. Additionally, with the NIL deals, the US colleges have attracted a ton of young European players that would normally be playing in Eurolrague soon, and chances are they’ll play in the NBA in some capacity. So the lower levels will be talents from outside of the US, too. Which is a good thing. It would make for a bigger audience abroad.
What this argument misses is the number of US players playing in Europe and around the world. The academy model in Europe has its own developmental issues- early specialization and potential for abuse/ mismanagement.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mHe's not European in the slightest. The first 16 years of his life was spent in Yaoundé, Cameroon. After that he moved to the states. He hasn't even lived in Europe at any point in his life.
thing is that we talk about europeans as such USA beat hardly Serbia with 8 milion people in that country. If we did european selection of playres i think there is a good chance of beating USA team. We talk about Giannis, Luka, Jokic, Sabonis, Wemby old spanish matadors. Would be a great game to watch at least,
Kobe tried to tell everybody and they wouldn’t listen.
true
Kobe always knew what was up
Facts!
Some of us are old enough (and not brainwashed) to have already understood this 30+ years ago.
Yet the USA continue to win gold
“I just think European players are just way more skillful” - Kobe January 3rd, 2015
You guys just want them to be so bad.
@@TCthaCrisisfacts Europeans will never be better
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m WOW!!! That means something coming from Kobe
@@TCthaCrisisDid Kobe lie? Because how come the last 6 MVPs have been European/international players?
@@malikwilson7387Then how come the last 6 MVPs have been European/international players?
american basketball culture is centered around athleticism, iso plays and highlight reels. european basketball is focused on fundamentals, ball movement, off ball play, and playing as a TEAM.
yeah too much individualism in american basketball culture
A late 30’s something Dwight Howard shut down Jokic in his prime
@@SLSMestop it. Jokic was not in his prime at that point
@@SLSMedwight howard is also a sexcase 😂
@@SLSMe1. Jokić wasn't in his prime. 2. It wasn't Dwight (Men Raper) Howard but they played 3 Centers in their Rotation on Jokić. 3. It's a Team Sport. 4.Individually Jokić achieved more then Howard ever will.
They’re playing team ball as opposed to individual ball
Yep
I was about to say the same. Even LeBron wondered why some people were doing certain drills
@@HighlightReelFactory Lebron plays team ball
@@Zay-i1l that's my point
@@HighlightReelFactory your point failed
The Olympics says it all. You can take one/two amazing guys with a bunch of role players and they can hang against a team full of superstars.
Lmao
You may be right but we talk about Europe as such if you did selection of biggest EU players that game would be interesting. Luka, Giannis, Wemby, Joker, Sabonis, Bogdanovic and so on. That would be also team full of stars :)
Was about to say this @@nikolakranjcevic4563
@@curtiszyrso why didn‘t the US dominate more? Or you wanna say the US wanted to make it close in the Olympics despite having by far the best roster?
Despite the fact that USA is not doping tested like other countries because of their influence.
It's not the situation on the world cup. Did you win there?
Jokic doesn't have athleticism? Athletics is not just high jump and sprint. Jokić is not a racehorse, but a workhorse. Strong and durable! His stamina is incredible, and the strength to move almost any player in the post.
Played 4 years in Spain 🇪🇸 the highest IQ basketball I have seen in my life
What clubs did you play in?
Thank you, we try hard 🇪🇸
Im french although we like to antagonize each other with Spain... These guys really have this thing for sport IQ, beyond basketball. I'm coming from football, and they just changed the whole game, bringing smaller guys but highly skilled, very intelligent, read the game wayyy ahead of others... yeah unbeatable during a decade until some other teams (including France) caught up and now it's back again since 3 years where they win every trophy across all age categories from the under 15 to the senior team winning the European cup..
Because in Europe we don't watch sport to be entertained. We watch it in the hope that our team wins. We are entertained only from winning. End of story. We are not happy if we loose. we don't go to game to watch a specific player, we go to watch and support the team. In Europe you are thought that the team is always no1. there is no star player, the team is the star.
Watch it in hopes your team wins..... So you've been disappointed in the Olympics since 2008?......
@@billysummers1616 haha no. My fav European team is Panathinaikos. and for national team I support Serbia even though I am Romanian. When your team exceeds expectations you can't be disappointed.
Exactly. Which is why I don't get why people complain about load management. If I'm the home team, I would be so happy if the lakers come and lebron and AD isn't playing because they are load managing.
lol does this also apply to all the Man City & Madrid fans (given the generalization of your comment on all sports)? As a German I can certify this comment as cap. While it’s true that European sports teams tend to have a deeper cultural/ historical connection to the region they’re in (unlike in the US where teams will often rotate cities), saying that fans don’t watch the sport to be entertained is ridiculous. There’s a difference between passion & obsession, and I don’t think classifying fans in Europe as obsessed is a proper classification
@@AlMA-od5ns never ment to say they are obsessed just we don't look at sport as entertainment. as European I consider entertainment, movies, music, art, theatre, etc, but not sport. I watch sport for the beauty of sport, for the spartan element, for pushing the limit further. but I can't say I am ever entertainted. Even when I am neutre watching cycling I appreciate the strength and fighting element.
The difference between European and American players is one word, patience
@@Wraith3100 Nien
@@Wraith3100 Who was 11-0?
The inpatient? Lol
@@Wraith3100 This is mayonnaise babbling. You text as if a European team won. Make it make sense, please.
true.
@@Iandheisheresays the cheeseburger swallower 😂
Europe is developing talent using the soccer club model. Luka Doncic entered the Real Madrid program at age 13. America passes children from city league, to middle school, to high school, to university. Long term development is almost impossible unless your dad is coaching you and taking responsibility for your development.
Been wondering, any sports club in US, (maybe excluding football/soccer) dont have academy program that can promote youth prospect to the main team, do they?
@@RubbaDuckie32Nope. The big 5 sports leagues in the US recruit directly from public and private middle schools and high schools. They were able to do so for so long because American sports operate on the Franchise/Major-Minor system. In Europe clubs are connected via promotion/relegation and the professionalization occurs younger (between ages 9 to 18).
@@RubbaDuckie32 cause it will clash with their high school and college system that they have in place.
European basketball focuses more on team play, ball movement and outside shooting. There’s more of a priority on fundamentals and execution. Whereas in America, there’s more of an emphasis on athleticism, one on one play and of course the famous slam dunks.
Facts.
So dallas and denver have a lot of ball movement? Both euro players are ball dominate. No ball movement on either team
@@l9ikjamNah Jokic isn’t ball dominant like Luka is.
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m there are a lot of times where jokic is only on the court trying to get assist
The first 40 years of American basketball was teamwork ball movement fundamentals. After dr j, jordan, America has fallen in love with the athleticism. Nothing wrong with that. Now European players are somewhat in their first 40 years even though they been playing for a lot longer. At some point Europeans are gonna be in love with athleticism over fundamentals.
Shannon, come to a Nuggets game in Denver so you can see the Joker in person
Yep
He went to a laker game when Jokic played there
Europe isn’t chasing highlights and trends. They’re after fundamentals and understanding the game
Excactly. Here, sport is not about entertainment and spectacle. It's about the sport, and the passion.
No its about wining
The song Mark Cuban is talking about in the beginning is called Big Dawgs and is extremely popular right now.
Jokic plays team basketball and he can also play off ball and set screens/picks properly and correctly.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m Chokich lol
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@@crepinhauser5274 Mayonnaise babbling.
@@crepinhauser5274 Chokich is not special. He can screen well lol
@@crepinhauser5274 Joker's the best.
He screens well 🤣
Kobe who grew up in Italy always preached this after he retired, he warned everyone about how Europeans were coming.... Maybe the only American star to ever appreciate the coaching and fundamental development in Europe and why he will always be more loved than LeBron globally.
Makes me sad actually that clowns like Shaq, Draymond, KD etc... Feel its so easy the trash European ballers, i bet Kobe would have stuck up for them over US players who think they're only good because they have elite athleticism no actual skill.
Pride comes before the fall. Allow the Americans to keep thinking they're the best at everything
They trash European players because they are hurting/insecure/scared. KD has been an insecure diva since the beginning because he has not lived up to the expectations.
4 straight golds......
All European and foreign stars today idolise Lebron.
@Mahomeboy He's the face of the league it makes sense to say that. The rest of the world love Kobe.
A country that treats its Sports as entertainment first, will always lose against a continent that treats Sport as a competition.
Did you know that in a way, Sport tournaments replaced wars in Europe?
When England is playing Germany in a Football game, the excitement is through the roof in both countries.
Americans don´t really understand that, but give it some time.
When you get better at Football or Europe gets even closer in Basketball, you will feel the heat :P
Correct.
When I watch NBA games, I'm always surprised to see fans singing and dancing even if their team is down by 30.
This could never happen in Europe.
In Spain, France or Italy, people would probably boo their own team. In Serbia, Greece or Turkey, they would throw projectiles on the court.
Europeans are skillful? Cant even beat a 39 year old LeBron.
@@jackjax7921 Because Europe is not a country, Bozo. All the best european players are not in the same team.
Lol. Team USA begged a guy from CAMEROON to play with them. It's pathetic.
@@jackjax7921 Europe is not a country, kid.
Best european players are not in the same team.
Team USA begged a guy from CAMEROON to play with them. What a joke.
Love Cuban but I'm sorry to say that's too basic (high level) of an analysis. Not enough practice? I'm privileged to have played pretty much all around (Spanish middle school, American HS, Spanish national team under ages, American university, Spanish and French pro divisions)... and it is definitely not a matter of practicing more or less. My clear conclusion was the lack of overall diversity and ball knowledge of American coaches and assistants. Running extremely basic plays, practicing repetitive sets without clear focus on what is trying to be improved, sticking to very 'old school' approaches to the game and/or over relying on 1:1 basketball. 'IQ' is not enhanced simply by 'practicing more', but by practicing better
Maybe he meant practicing all posts vs just one? I don't know, mentioning his 13 yo kid every two seconds doesn't speak that highly of his ball knowledge (unless we hear of Jake Cuban as a draft prospect in 4-8 years)
It’s true, European basketball is more about team plays, a lot of coach involvement. Whereas in the US a lot of times they let the individual talent, which is off the charts, take over.
You guys just say anything 😂
Also: Club + federated League structure. In Europe there are official leagues at every level and talent is spotted and nurtured waaaaay earlier. All the euro clubs have teams going all the way down to 7-8 year-olds. Until the US adopt a similar approach, international players will keep taking more and more spots in the NBA.
When Shaq hits two free throws in a row you know its over lol.
No lies told. I've been saying this for years.
Can't say I've ever seen a player from India in my life 😂😂
I don't think Europian are more skillful than Americans, but they definitely smarter when it comes to playing basketball, they play the game the right way.
I think it has to do with being born with maybe less than ideal athleticism they have to learn ways to play. A lot of American players are born with natural athleticism so they don’t develop their game because they dominate in their younger years
@@fdhfghfgrhrrth There were some very athletic players in Europe, its not really the issue here. The issue is the game here is taught and played differently. Played differently like this, first its all about the team, second coach is the law not players or stars, and third win is what matters and not your personal stats. And now about learning game, at least I can say of when I played and when I was kid which was when Kukoc played in Chicago (he is from my home town), every single player learned post moves be it big or small, everyone learned tactic, everyone learned how to pass the ball efficiently, how to minimize mistakes and turnovers, shooting FT's.
We worked a lot on those basic skills and if coach would see you try some flashy move more time than not it was bench time.
In US youngsters are more focused on highlights, flashy dunks or assists, breaking ankles and shooting deep threes. Dont get me wrong those are all skills but its way of skipping the game of basketball, skipping the tactics. Kids get athletic and to fast, they move into drive to fast and committed and can't stop any more. Its a game of basketball not just sprint or high jump competition. To much speed without control usually create mistakes and prevents you from reading game good.
@@fdhfghfgrhrrth😂Europe is a big continent not everyone is built the same that comment just sounds stupid the only difference is the USA has the size of a continent too pick players of course it will be easy having top players
@@fdhfghfgrhrrth🤣
As a Serbian I can only compare us to USA people as superior in any sense, physical, intellectual. You can easily see people from Europe dominate NBA and you make statement how they have to find ways , bla, bla...
Do you know how giant Serbs, Croats, Bosnians, Montenegro people are? Dutch average heights?
USA athleticism 😂
Try to join world doping testing for the Olympics to see the results. Never mind, you can always buy the best players so you would be good again
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True story Respect 💯💯💯..R.i.p..Mamba...Kobe Bryant
1:10 in Europe, boys in team U15 and lower , We got 3-4 practice trainning per week(we going to school day to day ) , and 1 game in Saturday or Sunday , like proffesional leaque basket in Europe
Practice its mean - individual skill set, and team defense and offense playing
4pracitce per weak- to 1 full game
USA 4-5 games per week, zero practice as team
Dirk was one of the European Beast!
Camera work bit over the top! Class interview!
They are told that it’s a team sport from the beginning, yet we believe to make it we have to be Jordan. Just go to a LA Fitness and play with randoms at least one person not passing the ball no matter what
"DWade goes to the free throw line 973 times" 🤣
Somebody want to tell these guys that Joel Embiid is from Cameroon which is in Africa, not Europe. 🤔
Hello keep up the great interviews and sections. You have great chemistry with your guests.
Homeboi heard Big Dawgs by Hanumankind, dope.
I still believe that Euroleague current top 6 would do extremely well in the NBA
You have to be a willing, gifted and high IQ passer most of the time.
Jokic - Antetokounmpo - Doncic
Top U.S. guys who are next in line still on that killer mentality and less of a passing threat.
Tatum - Edwards - Morant
The only U.S. players in my opinion who are all around type like Lebron:
Cunningham - Banchero - Haliburton
Indianapolis 2002 and Bodiroga
If Jokic wasn't a great athlete, he wouldn't be playing at the highest level. It just looks different. You can't back down AD and guys like that without athleticism
As an American born from European parents, I can see what he’s saying….although I totally identify as an American I have noticed for 50 years now that there seems to be something a little different about me, sort of humble/efficient/intelligent that gives me an edge. I’ve always been able to outsmart and outwork my peers any time I feel like it. I often start slow, get overlooked, sometimes get made fun of….but the longer time goes by and the tougher the job gets, the more consistently I end up rising above those around me. That said, I love our freedom and diversity here, I love the fun and showmanship, and I think there’s plenty of room for everyone to do things their own way. Life is to be enjoyed, we’re all in this together, not everyone can be a star, not everyone needs to be a millionaire. Relax. All good 😊
Same here!
😂😂😂😂😂
@@ibrahimciftci9599niye güldün?
Are your parents from the same European country/nation ?
I guess there would be difference to be noticed. How you described yourself I would guess your heritage is from some Balkan or south country. English, French, German are almost equal to USA standards
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0:43 @hanumankind going places man cuban is one of a kind
Every country has a different playing style. So they train to play against different style of games.
I can see why players like mark cuban. I feel like most people with billions arent the greatest of people... but i feel like mark is a good guy.
973 times, I checked it was 981
Cuban said it. It's 330 million people against the rest of the world. Long term, MVPs were going to be foreigners.
What KD doesn't understand is that they win because they're lucky Europe is not one (or two or three) big country (or countries). That's the only reason they get a medal, sheer country size.
Cameroon must be tiny, i cant find it anywhere on the map of Europe.
So weird people being freaked out about "slow unathletic white dudes from Europe" when not so long ago Larry Bird was literally the US version of that and the baddest man in the entire league.
And as said elsewhere - Kobe said this was going to happen. He was right.
Europeans kids plays with professionals early on, also they get minutes to play, so they have to develope skills very fast, the best collage basketbal team cant compete with an average European team.
Mark cuban shouting out Hanumankind! I love it
Embiid is not a European player. Never played in Europe. One year in college + NBA. French threw citizenship at him hoping he would play for their national team. He was more interested in a gold medal. Are we that prone to generalizations that an African is called a European player? An African-born superstar who modeled his game after one of the greatest African players of all time, Hakeem 'the Dream' Olajuwon. It's time to acknowledge that Africa is going to be the next basketball powerhouse. And welcome it. And foster it. And acknowledge it. And discuss it.
I was a bit shocked that he included Embid among the European players. Indeed Embid is Cameroonian, American and only got the French citizenship a few years ago but has himself never lived here.
That being said I'd like to correct your assessment.
If France and mostly the French basketball federation was really keen on the potential of having Embid play for the national team, he himself, at the time, showed that he was eager to achieve the same goal. Here's an abstract of the letter he sent to no other than French President, Emmanuel Macron:
« Après discussions avec la Fédération française de Basket-ball, mon choix est désormais arrêté. Je souhaite engager les démarches pour obtenir une naturalisation française et ainsi être sélectionnable avec les Bleus. Je ne souhaite en conséquence jouer pour aucune autre équipe nationale. »
If you don't read French, it says: "After talking with the French basketball federation, my choice is made. I wish to start the process to get the French citizenship that would allow me to get selected by the French national team. Thus, I don't want to play for any other national team."
As the saying goes, it takes two to tango, and Embid was very much part of it.
I guess he then decided that he had better odds to win the Olympics by playing for the US. I think it was the right choice. He has more links to the US than to France. It would have felt weird to see him play for a country that he doesn't really know even if it would have been a major addition to the French team.
Did you not listen to the point he was making? He mentioned Africa and India in the same point where he mentioned Embiid.
USA’s best players get to be on one team. EU’s best are dispersed over many country teams. Let’s have USA v EU All Stars and see!
That's silly
Nah really let’s see: Lebron Steph Anthony Kevin Jayson vs Luka Joker Wemby Dennis Giannis, still sure USA wins ?😅
NBA: product
Euro League: sport
7 mn Serbs playing 350 mn US guys 91 : 95 in 2025 Olympics.
---> US outnumbered 50 : 1 to win by 4.
LeBron 39
Curry 36
Durant 36
Serbians cant beat old dudes.
The mere fact LeBron won Olympic MVP at age 39 means the skills of Americans is miles better than Europeans. LMAO
@@jackjax7921What are you trying to tell us? That the US did not bring their A team to Paris? That 350 mn US dont bring up as many younger talents as 7 mn Serbs?
10:55 IMAGINE JOKIC + LUKA ON SAME TEAM😳
"i thought this was going to be a fun interview" 🤣
Usa had to put together a squad of collectively the best 15 players they’ve ever been able to to win the Olympics and it wasnt a walk in the park. They even felt they had to get Embiid who isn’t American.
That was against teams who had at most one world class player on their squad. If that doesn’t tell you what the landscape is then nothing ever will.
In 1-2 decades the NBA will be at LEAST 40% international players and that number will only grow.
The developmental system in America is archaic and the culture of individualism in America sports combined with the inability to get over the obvious superiority complex will mean it’s inevitable.
There’s a reason why USA don’t dominate team sports that have high participation worldwide.
Those Thunder 4s are LIT
Cuban’s 1st point is not valid : 5 of the last 6 are from Europe, which although is OUTSIDE the US, nonetheless is NOT THE WORLD either. USA and Europe is roughly the same population, and you could even argue that Basketball has more market share in the US than in Europe.
So no, you can’t say it’s in big part à question of statistics and demographics
European basketball is team basketball which means real basketball
Yet the US dominates international competition still. 11-0 this past Olympics and 4 straight golds.....
@@billysummers1616But...Europe is coming...
THEY LOSE EVERY TIME!
I get that European players focus on fundamentals and at this rate they may someday catchup tobus , but we are comparing a CONTINENT with double the population to a country , and they still have a long way to go and time to make up for.
Nah, we're comparing Balkans not the whole Europe 😅
Well, basketball is way more popular in the US compared to Europe. Size of population has nothing to do with it I'd say.
@@SOV3r3IGNBalkans, Spain, Lithuania and a little bit of France and Italy
Popularity of a sport is much more important than population size, basketball is almost non-existent in many european countries, for example here in Switzerland 90% of people couldn't name you a single basketball player outside of Kobe and the biggest basketball games here get like 300 spectators in a good year.
If population size was really that important China and India would dominate most sports, but look at China for example they have 1.5 billion people and pumped 10 billion dollars per year into football with the goal to become a top football nation, but they can't even qualify for the world cup, they just lost 7:0 against Japan a few weeks ago lol.
basketball is popular in like 3-4 SMALL european countries lol. there are probally 10 times as many players in america compared to europe.
It's also a cultural thing.. Americans are way more used to playing basketball as a streetgame which means they play more on their own responsibility and have to rely on themselves (hence the handles and athletisism) while you see a lot less basketball on the streets of europe which therefore means that euros play more in a controlled and coached environment (hence less entertaining and more IQ). On top of that there is also the cultural difference in how the braging/trash talking and entertainment is viewed on the two continents. In europe these things are more frowned upon which means you're less rewarded for selfish behaviour even if it's entertaining.. heck they tried to put on Helene Fischer (a very popular german singer) as a halftime show in a Bundesliga game once and it was a disaster for her. The entire crowd just whistled and booed for the entire performance so no matter how popular, euros don't wanna see anything but athletes at a sporting event.
There's more basketball courts in Slovenia per square kilometre than New York city.
Depend of what country. In countryes where basketball is popular they play streetball,
@purplekush4951 yeah, but that's only one european country and one of the few countries that are good at basketball
Lets get a few facts straight about why the U.S. is rightfully saying it has the best National team. The U.S. has 343 million inhabitants and a long tradition in playing basketball. Is a National sport together with football and baseball so kids play it everywhere and a youth league slash College system is established. Of course they produce amazing palyers. But making a comparison with Europe is not possible because the US had never to compete with a European team as there is no European All Star team. Andssoccer is national Sport number 1,2, and 3 in most European countries and that is why they dominate it, but thats a different story. There are 27 different Basketball National Teams in the EU. Germany has 80 million people and some great NBA players. France has 60 million people and some great NBA players. Same goes for Spain. Greece has 10 million people and some great NBA palyers. Serbia has only 7 million people which is 2% of the US population but has an MVP. Slovenia has 2 million people but has an MVP. So if you want to make a fair comparison you imagine an European All Star team and then expect them to be dominated by the US Boys? No freaking way! The US Boys may dominate single European nations but against an EU allstar team those games would be tight for the US boys to win. The question why Europe has produced great NBA players is also becuase Euro leauge basketball is a tough league to compete in. NBA is of higher quality but the difference is not huge anymore. Euro leauge is tough and players who dominate there also often can dominate in NBA. Especially you get tackled much harder in Europe and supporters/fans can be intense so you are under high pressure when you play Euro league basketball. Just put Luka, The Greek Greak, Joker, Schröder, Wagner, Wembanyama, and many other great European players ina team and you have a fair match between US and Europe.
Same thing with soccer in Europe
And basketball/ football/ baseball in the US
@@kylelaforest9919 no
The great traininglevels in India, sure.
also, in soccer too much pressure from parents in little Ligue , that's why kids are not technically good , as soon as the kid get the ball parents start screaming at him and telling him what to do
Basketball is becoming a more global sport as the years go on.
With the NBA's promoting of their league a lot of people internationally start becoming fans and playing basketball.
The number of American players in the NBA is going to continue to become less as more people around the world are playing basketball
Joel Embid is European now... american geography never cease to amaze me
Shannon should make a podcast with thierry henry, he is one of the best soccer player, play with messi and love basketball, athletism is not the first for him.
Love Thierry, but If he had to pick a soccer representative to talk on his platform it has to be either Beckham or Zlatan. Both fluent in English and can talk in interviews. Zlatan hilarious 😂
@@123FUG33 Henry make a podcast with jj redick was awesome. Ferdinand have a podcast and he Said r9 and Messi are the players that impress him the most, it would be interesting to hear him But yeah Zlatan Is in the top to be in a podcast ,agree
@@123FUG33 Henry is a pro, but zlatan is entertaining
Durant say that Usa's basketball is the best in the world because they win.
It's easy, they're the basketball country with more inhabitants by far. As an example, Serbia are 4 million people. Meanwhile, USA are 355 million. It shouldnt be even close.
And a lot of states are bigger than countries like Spain, France or Germany. So, in order to be fair, USA should play by states against us. Let's See if the would win then.
Cuban is sneaky!
It is all about team-spirit, not the individual.
I don’t understand why people can’t just accept a flaw and adjust. International players are coming and are coming hard. US players need to improve
When you say that, you always ear a « but »….but we are still the best…but we won…but more of the best players are still from the US…but…but..
People totally miss the point because they can’t handle a constructive criticism.
People need to see it like this: if US kids combine their athleticism with the euro IQ, it will be game over for the next 100 years. That’s all….
And if they don’t, in the 25 years to come, the table will be flipped.
India? Embiid from Europe?
He’s American but from Africa
French citizenship for Embiid.
Embiid is from France
@@JVilla-ri5iu but American
@JVilla-ri5iu Embiid is from Africa. Cameroon to be exact.
Showing Olympic medal to a world champion seems funny
The thing is that many Europeans players played football before they played basketball so they get the iq from that when the pass when to to a run when to lure players etc etc thats why. In the US everything is about athleticism iq beats athletism
American players are breed for superstardom & highlights while European play the game correctly.
THEY NEVER WON LOL
They play the game "correctly" and still lose.
@@nacirema2710 the point is euro league players have higher IQ because their more fundamentally sound.
Calling Embiid European is a bit of a stretch.
I think there shouldn’t be a grouping together of all non-American players, and subsequent labeling as “European players”.
Africa is not Europe.
South America is not Europe.
Canada is not Europe.
He said this because the europe League.
Throughout this interview they seemed to ignore the fact that Europe is not a single country…a combined European All-Star team with Jokic, Giannis, Doncic, Wemby, Porzingis, Gobert, etc. is statistically probably a better team…and that;s just the NBA players…the European league also has its own depth of talent…
BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT FUNDAMENTALS WHILE US AMERICANS ARE MORE ABOUT LOOKIN' KOOL & FLASHY & ARE STYLES OF PLAYIN'=DID YOU SEE THAT KOOL MOVE I JUST DID 🤔😏😂
Well....that is true. I tell my Sons to be obsessed with techniques and being fundamentally sound. The highlights will come...some if not most of that is in game instincts. So concentrate on fundamentals.
@OSnoopySmoop1 that's a lie The Olympics just proved Americans are better
@@cdwalkno it ain't
@@malikwilson7387okay, have a great evening.
One of the many reasons of why primetime NBA was the 90s during Jordans era....players did crossovers and etc not to embarrass other players but to score.....no wasted movement
Giannis is the best
When american players statpad to get assist and rebounds, people claim they are padding their stats. When European statpad for rebounds and assist, they call them high IQ
facts, ain't nobody ever call Luka a statpadder lol
@@Netsfan24if you watched the games you’d know it’s not stat padding
Jokic is the furthest from a stat padder I have seen in the NBA
American players don’t do that
@@Netsfan24 you haven't been online, then
In terms of knowledge of the game and training methods the rest of the world has caught up with the US, however from what I see, basketball is still a small sport in most countries all over the world,so that’s always a disadvantage for other countries to compete consistently.
A bit like Americans playing soccer, there’s not enough passion and not enough players in the base of the pyramid to steadily rise to excellence.
Possible Sharpe a friend of Diddy?
If Europe takes BB seriously NBA is cooked
They've had over 60 years.
Cuban: “We have the best players. It’s not even close.”.
Isn’t it? Because the best four players in the planet are not from the US: Jokic, Giannis, Luka, and Embiid. And the best younger player is European.
Additionally, with the NIL deals, the US colleges have attracted a ton of young European players that would normally be playing in Eurolrague soon, and chances are they’ll play in the NBA in some capacity.
So the lower levels will be talents from outside of the US, too. Which is a good thing. It would make for a bigger audience abroad.
Yeah you know better than an NBA owner lol
Embiid is American, how many times must you be told this
Those aren't the best 4 players.
Does anyone know what shoes Shannon is wearing?
Did you mean to say he has a front seat to watch doncic?
What this argument misses is the number of US players playing in Europe and around the world. The academy model in Europe has its own developmental issues- early specialization and potential for abuse/ mismanagement.
Embiid is not euro
European/international either way he’s not from USA
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m he got his development in america
Cuban is Woke
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mHe's not European in the slightest. The first 16 years of his life was spent in Yaoundé, Cameroon. After that he moved to the states. He hasn't even lived in Europe at any point in his life.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mIt’s not Shannon’s fault, he had an American education.
Joel Embiid he’s not europe he’s American[a] professional basketball player for USA National Basketball
Joel not European bud
can someone tells me the shoes shannon is wearing? TIA 🙂
Dude really said India
I am shocked that Mark Cuban knows about Hanumankind
more people.. and amazingly lot of NBA players from India and China
Joel Embiid is not European, he is from Cameroon
All the Indian, Chinese and african Players. So many of them.
Welcome to Caitlin
Did he compare Luka to Jokic?
thing is that we talk about europeans as such USA beat hardly Serbia with 8 milion people in that country. If we did european selection of playres i think there is a good chance of beating USA team. We talk about Giannis, Luka, Jokic, Sabonis, Wemby old spanish matadors. Would be a great game to watch at least,
Lol LeBron at age 39 beat these clowns. LMAO skill level isnt close.
@@jackjax7921Lebrun is your goat
Cameroon is in Europe now cool
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