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I would like the bigger court, but FIBA rules, especially defensive 3 seconds and offensive basket interference. I never understood why you would make it harder to get tipdunks, especially in the show-driven NBA. Makes no sense at all
Ever time nba players are in fiba or olimpics referring changes because they just can’t play basketball without traveling. They should have the same rules and courts but still in nba they do not call traveling to stars like LeBron. So if they want to play a game a basketball and travel you really can’t just play against them. Like Steph curry in the Olympics. Traveling all the time
Lol it’s literally a bunch of players trying to make it to the NBA, obviously they don’t have the seasonal aspirations, but that makes it even more embarrassing for euro teams cause you guys would get cooked by majority of gleague teams in a nba setting 😂🤷🏾♂️
Actually for Americans: NBA > G league > NCAA > Euroleague > any local league in EU. Some of them even believe that good high school teams can beat Euroleague champions thanks to their superior athleticism.
Nothing against JTA, but his desperation to get back to the league made him say those things. Don’t disrespect other leagues, don’t disrespect your opponent and accept it your NBA bench riding days are over. Be grateful that you can still play the game.
It's a motivational in the moment speech. Idk if this is a cultural thing you guys don't understand or what but it's not personal. It's not a serious thought out opinion. It's hyping his guys up trying to give them motivation for one game of basketball. Does anyone not want to admit the ultimate goal is the NBA? Especially for these American guys. Of course he's going to push them to be better than a Euroleague team because he knows most of those guys if they had their preference would want to be in the NBA not in Euroleague.
GLeague is literally set up for players to play as individuals. I’m not surprised they got whooped by a legit Euro team. Completely different mindset of the players.
The same holds true for AAU basketball, where individual performance is valued more than team play. That’s the reason why so many NBA coaches hate AAU.
@@samcalven12 Well, that just shows that at high school age, individual talent beats team play. Perhaps it's not very surprising, as the latter takes years to develop.
Five of the six top scorers in this game for Unicaja were Americans, and the sixth played American college basketball, so what does this result even prove? That Americans playing in Europe are better than Americans playing in the G-league?
Nowadays, they would compete against euroleagues team. I think they would win a couple of teams such as alba berlin, bayern for example. I would say the can compete a couple more. All with respect for the euroleagues team.
Imo the reason why FIBA and NBA evolved the way they are now is about the professional structure. NBA teams are franchises, as long as they don't have financial issues, they belong to the NBA. Being bad only means better chance to get a better player next draft. So what they need is showmanship to keep money getting in. This reflects on the NBA rules and play style. In Europe, professional naional leagues are organized by level. If one team has the poorest results they play in lower grade league next season with tremendous impact for the team organization and finance. This also reflects on the playstyle; team strength over individual talent
and although the euroleague is a closed league for many teams, the fans are not going to allow a madrid, a barcelona, an olympiakos etc... to let themselves lose games to get a better position in a supposed draft
Five of the six top scorers in this game for Unicaja were Americans, and the sixth played American college basketball, so what does this result even prove? That Americans playing in Europe are better than Americans playing in the G-league?
@@joseuseroasensio7148 Euroleague is not closed in like NBA terms. Out of 30 teams, only 12 are untouchable due to their previous constant success and of course having a lots of money, that makes other 18 slots free for other teams to grab, national champions from the strongest leagues, and best performing teams that play in qualis. I would say its fair, every team that is performing really really good on international level has a chance to get into EL
"Why do we have such a difference" Well it was answered by a player, as he said "We want to play in the NBA to make million". So they focus on their own contract not on the team results. That's where the difference lies.
That's why Nikkola Jokic is unstoppable. 1 on 1, he isn't most athletic. But as a team player, his decision making and ability to find the open man is off the chart. And, he also has enough 1 on 1 moves to be very effective. But his team play is what sets him apart. And BB is a TEAM game. Yeah...I'm not surprised that the Euro teams are beating up our G League.
@@JohnBowl14690 why wouldn't they? Europe has always been much better than the d and g leagues here. Before that they were our developmental leagues. You're talking men compared to boys.
To give some context, Unicaja is a playoff team in the Spanish ACB league. They were champions once (2004-2005 season). They were a bottom half Euroleague team from 2001-2002 to 2018-2019, they played in the final four once (2006-2007 season), and they haven't played in Euroleague since the 2018-2019 season. And (this is my personal opinion) if they played Euroleague now, it would be very unlikely that they were in the top half of the teams.
great context however in the video he says it's a medium-level team in Europe which is just not true. They tied Real Madrid in the ACB for points last season and as you said they could compete with the lower half of the Euroleague. So, it's one of the best ~15 teams in Europe.
@@manolakiss7 they are definitely not one of the best 8 teams however they are surely in the top 20. They significantly outperformed Valencia & Baskonia in the ACB league (2 Euroleague clubs, 1 made the playoffs). They won the Champions League, going 14-2. The point I wanted to make is, that it's not just any medium team in Europe. It's one of the best and we can argue if it's the 14/15th or even 25th best team in Europe. It's not just a medium team.
@@gian6533this is true, but Baskonia and Valencia play 2 leagues at the same time. Unicaja play only ACB and the cup BCL, so it's more hard for Baskonia and Valencia with a lot of games
@@gian6533 Malaga is like a top 15-20 team in Europe, yes. But I think when he said they are a mid level team in Europe, what he meant was a mid level team if they were in EuroLeague, which is actually being generous.
The fact that some basketball players occasionally get together and shoot a basketball to a hoop does not make them a team, thus these teams do not add up to a league. It's barely more than a pick-up game.
Yup. The g league team probably had two to three weeks of practice and roster build up. Meanwhile other teams have been playing their rosters for atleast two to three years now.
@@jic-z4e Give the G-League team 5 years of playing and adjusting time and the result won't change. "Our goal is to play in the NBA and make miliions or hundreds of million dollars" was enough said why they are in the G-League and got woopped.
Izan Almansa said that the in g league players don't care about winning games, they are there to get to the NBA and show their skills so they end up playing to show off and not to win
That just proves that their level is lower. Showing off does not mean you don't score does it. So even when showing off they don't even make the shot . Steph curry shows off everyday and his team wins
Five of the six top scorers in this game for Unicaja were Americans, and the sixth played American college basketball, so what does this result even prove? That Americans playing in Europe are better than Americans playing in the G-league?
@@rowannixon3180 yes they are and it proves that European basketball and the way of playing is way better than American basketball because in the G-leage everyone is just trying to show of their skills to get to then nba and not to win as a team and this is not just my opinion it has been said by the players
@@miroslavjovic7739its fenerbahce not fenerbache, secondly idk about f4 but fener will finish above cvezda thats what i know, u got big mouth just bcuz u got a win on fener and look cute on the standings now after 3 matches. this is a long season u will understand soon.
Im sorry but im not even american and his speech was good. Of course when motivating a team you're going to say "they arent good, we are better" because thats how you get your players to believe in themselves. If you say "they are so good, they are out playing us tactically, we arent good enough" you might be RIGHT, but you arent going to inspire any confidence. The money dream makes sense when you realise where a lot of the players come from, whats wrong with trying to make 100 million dollars in your 20s and 30s and be set for life? Its a big sacrifice. Pure passion to get rings isnt inherently a superior goal.
How are we arrogant when we literally created and popularized the sport while annihilating the competition continually? If anything this is the one place we should be arrogant. We're not like England in football.
@@Ifreshylactive arrogance has nothing to do with who invented the sport. And you anihilate the competition every time, because you are a 370 mil people country. If we could build a Euro Team, to compete in the Olympics, I'm not sure you would still anihilate anything. What you see as self confidence there, can be seen as arrogance here.
@@Ifreshylactive tf are you talking about boi? you haven't annahilated anybody, you have more bronze than a gypsy and the refs were your sixth man on this years olympics. you have never dominated anybody really, with the expection of the dream team
@@vt5281 You do realize that our numbers literally go into different sports with American Football being the most played right? Basketball is our second or third, it’s not like we can make other nations adopt basketball more seriously. That’s just a blatant excuse, that Europeans repeat because of football nations like Iceland or anyone else in the world cup with a good run. China and India have more people than any other country and I don’t see their number of players being to our level. Let’s just be honest the only reason our way of doing things is seen as arrogant is because Europeans have a strong dislike for us. Imagine saying that the country with the most olympic gold medals by far with a continuous great crop of talent decade after decade is arrogant because of the way we go about things in something as inconsequential as a sport. Most of you don’t know a thing about America, you just think you do because of the internet.
I was at this tournament, the finals game was a real eye opener. G league team broke down quickly as soon as their shots weren’t falling, there was little communication on the court, a lot of complaining to the refs and a lot of “hero ball”. Tuscano-Anderson spent most of his time complaining about calls, no calls, anything really…. It was boring and frustrating to watch. Malaga themselves went through a few patches of poor shooting and their captain Diaz sometimes struggled to even get the ball up the floor but they played as a unit, moved the ball and involved everyone in the offence. There was no bad body language or complaints if a shot didn’t fall. More shockingly, if you think Malaga are an average team, is that on the Friday G league only beat Tasmania on the final play of the game and by a couple of points, they got extremely lucky, they really had no right being in the final game and it would have been far more entertaining to see the Tasmanian Jackjumpers and Jordon Crawford (who was incredible the whole tournament) in the final.
Five of the six top scorers in this game for Unicaja were Americans, and the sixth played American college basketball, so what does this result even prove? That Americans playing in Europe are better than Americans playing in the G-league?
@@rowannixon3180 In the last 5 seasons, all MVPs were foreigners and 3 of the 5 FMVPs were also foreigners. Does this prove that foreigners are better than Americans in the NBA?
Evan Fournier summarized the differences, he received 3 propositions: - Washington in NBA: it was meant for mentoring youngtsters in a franchise that will do nothing more than tanking, he refused, no goal, nothing to win - G-League: he thinks it’s not a real league, only a development one, nothing to win - Euroleague with Olympiakos, he wanted Paris in Euroleague too but too much point guards there. Euroleague is definitely way more attractive than playing in those 11th to 15th NBA teams, that’s why he’s accepted the Olympiakos contract. On the other hand Batum will continue in the Clippers, and Yabusele will play for the 76ers: competitive NBA franchises that will go to the playoffs. The Euroleague is way more motivating than playing in tanking NBA franchises or G-League: team defense fundamentals are way higher, higher IQ, shorter sized court meaning you have to rely on team efforts rather than individual skills. And we all know NBA hates team defense, the pundits in the USA have no clue about what’s team defense.
How about Micic then? He is a Euroleague MVP and 2x Euroleague Final Four MVP and has chosen to stay in Charlotte, one of the worst teams in the league
@@Eclipse89 he wants the chance to prove he's among the best of the world and also for the money. Fournier is 31, has been in the league for 12 years and was a bench player in the worst team in the league last year. It's obviously his time to prove himself in the NBA is over. Micic, while 30 himself, has only been the league for one year so he still has a chance
Fournier was never proposed the GLeague… You seriously think GMs were like « Hey Even, what about some GLeague fun time, huh? » … what are you smoking?!
Best thing I saw all week. Congrats to Unicaja. They did everybody proud. To all guys in the G-League, tell your patrons in the NBA that they're next. Curry, Durant and James won't be here for much longer. 😁 Here in Athens, we are still waiting for that Celtics game, you know. Just saying. ☘
@@milesmoralescousin Greece has 10mn population. I'm not sure team USA barely beating a bunch of 2-10mn population countries (with the exception of France and Germany at 67mn and 83mn respectively) is anything to be really proud of. Team EU, which has a population closer to the US one would be the favourite. And if you disagree that population size matters, name one US 3mn population city or area that could match Lithuania, or a 7mn population one that could match Serbia, let alone team EU.
Outside of comparing the league, I think it's also important to compare the way players are taught the game. In my opinion, AAU basketball has destroyed North American player's fundamentals. (At this point I don't think it's an opinion but a fact) They basically spend their summers playing pickup games where they run ISO every posession. And they do this for their entire youth. Until they get to college. Meanwhile Europeans will play at club level and learn the basics and then start playing in an academy. The best players play senior basketball in their teens where they HAVE to be exceptionally good with their fundamentals because they are the smallest, weakest player on the court. We've seen the cracks in the USA team. They are no longer the runaway favorite that they were in decades prior. They can lose to any of the best nation in Europe in a tournament. The gap has closed significantly. It took a godlike 4th from Curry to close the deal against France. There is no debate that the pecking order is NBA>Euroleague and after that somewhere, the NCAA and the G-League.
Well, here is the problem of going from youth to professional: it is very difficult to have minutes in professional leagues for young people because beyond the level they are very competitive leagues, so it is difficult to bet on young talent
no disrespect to malaga, but after hearing that time out 'speech' those g league players should face a team like real oly or pana to undestand their place 🤣🤣
I know this isn’t anywhere near FIBA basketball or pro basketball in general, but I absolutely HATE how very little, people move the ball at my local courts or gyms in America.
This happens everywhere and actually a part of it is a result of watching NBA players instead of watching mainly euro or college. I grew up watching college basketball more than the NBA so I was always understanding and preferred to play team basketball. Usually within a few minutes when players see how unselfish I am and constantly trying to make the extra pass they begin to get comfortable with me. I think often times that's the key to not get frustrated and just keep making the correct play. The only negative is sometimes there is that one guy who can never buy in to playing correctly. He has to play hero ball and all it takes is one mf to destroy team ball
@@loverofhumanity man I’m trying lol. I’m actually a really good passer, but I’ve grown frustrated with how very little the average person here knows about ball movement and spacing. It has forced me to get A LOT better offensively though
Frankly speaking, I usually watch some NBA highlights and it's entertaining. Every time however I try to watch a full game it's unwatchable. Players make aweful decisions and it feels like they invested fully on their physicality and 3 point shots instead of intellectual basketball. Yes, having some AMAZINGLY skilled players helps, but what they do, can't be replicated by 99% of the players
@@filips7158 shit is beyond cap. Luka, Jokic, Lebron, Kyrie, Steph/Draymond, Kevin Durant, Jalen Brunson, The Celtics as a unit, Coach Pop and the systems and coaches hes created, etc etc. I could literally go on and on about each team, the systems, and the players that exact these systems based all on IQ. and there isnt a single euroleague team that could beat any of the top 25 NBA teams. MAYBE real madrid could contend with the lower end of the NBA but even then i doubt it. you guys say some of the wildest shit
IMO is not really the fault of only the NBA players. On the one hand they are expected to shoot the 3 and use layups/dunks as statistically these are the most efficient shots. On the other hand obviously a lot of them grow up utilizing their phsysical superiority and not caring about learning the fundamentals of the game (such as boxing out the opponents). And yes, todays NBA games are mostly unwatchable to me - I just find them way too boring. Grew up during the 80s and 90s (have been able to watch NBA games since the early 90s, shout out to DSF and Guido Franke :) ) and the 90s playstyle appeals a lot more to me.
as a spanish and unicaja fan, i gota say we’re not that average. we’re lacking stars on the team as other european teams (madrid, barcelona, panathinainkos, bayern, fenerbahce, etc), in spite of that we managed to get the best record in acb last season, beating madrid and barcelona during the regular season just by playing as a team and that’s coach ibon navarro’s credit, i believe collective basketball beats by far individual basketball
Great analysis! Back when i played in a basketball team through my teenage years (as power forward & point guard) in Greece around the millenia, our trainer compared European and American basketball playstyles and rules. The european basketball was a zone based game, while the american playstyle was basically a 1 to 1. US basketball had great players (like MJ, Kobe, etc.) but European basketball was always the more intense, which i prefered. Looks like not much have changed so many years later.
It’s mentality and focus. USA basket is focused on 1o1 situations, and that mentality is enforced in college where players try to show off to be picked by NBA teams, whereas elsewhere, yes there are players who stand out and can make awsome playes (eg, Luka), but they are backed up by a system where you rely on the team and movement
To be fair this FIBA Cup is more of an obscure tournament than a high-calibre competition but congratulations to the GLeague team becoming the first one since the GLeague teams joined the Cup in 2019 that managed to reach the final. In all the previous tournament the GLeague champion failed to win the semi.
Even if it's a new team without chemistry, it's no excuse for poor defensive rebounds, lack of box out. This is one of the fundamentals of basketball and even at low level, you'd end up on the bench if you don't do it correctly.
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I played basketball in the past, I'm from Portugal. And I can say that were trained to function as a whole, unity was a very valuable lesson we took. If the team got bad results, next year could play on a lower level division, and that's not what we want, so we always gave our best and worked together all the times.
Unicaja Malaga is not an average team they had the first seed in the ACB last season (over Barca, Real and Baskonia) and they won the BCL. They also won the spaish cup in 2023.
In all european championships sometimes non euroleague teams have first seed or outperform euroleague teams(mostly because they play less games) but when playoff time comes you can clearly see the difference (sometimes not in the single games but over the series it will be clear)so malaga might be a bit over the average but it is far from being one of the best teams in Europe
Five of the six top scorers in this game for Unicaja were Americans, and the sixth played American college basketball, so what does this result even prove? That Americans playing in Europe are better than Americans playing in the G-league?
@@rowannixon3180 Wow, you really love shoving this copy pasta into completely unrelated comments. I'm pretty sure this is going to be the only response it gets, though.
@@BillyJoe-e8x Hm. Then when this hastily assembled G-league (non) team beat a team from Serbia last month, what do we conclude? When NCAA teams travel to Europe and often beat professional European teams, what should we then assume?
Solid video as usual. We are collectively not speaking enough of the fact that whenever US and Euro basketball are facing, it is under FIBA rules. Make it NBA rules and it will be a very different story, and that's coming from a European.
Not true at all. Whenever NBA teams play agains Euro teams it's NBA rules. Most recent Mavs @ Madrid, too lazy to look up more but they almost always play NBA rules.
I don’t see how it would make any real difference, or negate a 20 point difference, especially in this game. G League team just weren’t making shots and they got plenty of late foul calls on shot attempts, maybe refs trying to keep it competitive 🤷♂️ ? On the other side Malaga had to contened with American players that didn’t seem to understand a defensive stance, how to slide their feet and not swipe at the ball with the offhand, there was a lot of uncalled fouls, but never mind, the better team won.
Just to correct you, Unicaja is far from an average European team considering they were leading ACB league last year. The fact that they are not playing Euroleague is more political rather than the ability to compete in that league. But Americans need to be humbled and its a great start. They used to run those NBA vs European exhibitions games before but seems they have stopped them as European teams were actually beating NBA teams easily.
It's not politics why Unicaja is not in EuroLeague anymore. It's performance and money. EuroLeague relegates one license team every 5 years. They take the results of the last 5 years, and the team with the worst record losses its license. They also look at how the EuroLeague teams perform in their national leagues, and if they don't make the playoffs a couple times, they lose the license. Unicaja failed to get the playoffs in Spain and they had the worst record in EuroLeague's license teams over 5 years. So they lost their license. They got dropped down to EuroCup, and then won it, and then came back to EuroLeague. But then they failed to make the playoffs, and got sent back to EuroCup. Then Unicaja themselves decided as a club that they wanted to move to the FIBA BCL, rather than play in EuroCup, win it, and go back to EuroLeague again. They chose that because they had lowered their budget from around €20 million euros to around €14 million euros. And because of that, they couldn't make rosters that would be competitive in the EuroLeague. So it made more sense then to play in the FIBA BCL than the EuroCup, since FIBA BCL gives more money to its teams than EuroCup does. So there was nothing political about why Unicaja is no longer in EuroLeague. It is because of performance results and economics.
I'm not American but this is farther from the truth than most claims here. NBA teams treated those games as exhibition games while the Europeans were trying to prove that they are on the same level, yet when it comes to actual international tournaments, other countries can't really compare. The last time the us lost in Olympic basketball was 2004 when it was led by the most dysfunctional roster ever. Before you say fiba wc let me tell you this, those teams sent in fiba are basically Madrid u19 teams being sent to the world cup
@@Justatme-f3zGood yapping. You seem to forget that USA were a couple of Serbia blunders away from missing the Olympic Final and you also seem to forget that Germany are currently world champions. Sure USA are still the best team on paper, but Europe is catching up.
the opening speech says it all: they want to play to make money, in the rest of he world basically you play because you like the sport and you want glory and trophies
The video could have ended in the first 14 seconds. They lost because their dream is to make hundreds of millions of dollars, meanwhile in Europe the dream is to be the best basketball player and win everything.
lol gtfoh. They play for money, every single one of them. Doesn't matter if they're from the us europe or africa. If they weren't getting paid they wouldn't be as passionate. When you have a group of guys who've played together throughout the years play against guys who just got assembled obviously they're going to be a better team. Common sense isn't so common I guess
@mihailovasic4623 stop lying to yourself. Any player who isn't in the nba already would jump at the opportunity to play in the league. If your statement were true there wouldn't be guys like jokic or luka in the nba. The reality is not everyone is good enough for the nba so they end up going or staying in euro leagues, and that is a fact. Sorry to burst your bubble of fantasies lil kid. Why's wembenyama in the nba? Why's Luka? Why's jokic? Why's giannis? Because they know you don't get cool points for staying in euro leagues. The nba is the best of the best (as we seen in the Olympics 😉😏) and they get paid more than any other league.
That´s rather surprising! Being from Germany the one thing I remember best from my time at a US High School,was the emphasis my coach put on boxing out - I wasn´t aware that this fundamental deteriorates in the higher spheres of B-Ball in the US.
I mean if you watch the clip only in the first one it looks bad but the rest it’s guys not boxing out people that aren’t crashing the boards either so I guess take it or leave it
If there's only coach who is willing to adapt that system, just talk to EAC and CSB coaches. Even if takes months to efficiently execute some of team-oriented plays, they're trying their best to make the impossible things possible thru their research and experiment. For UAAP normies, Topex's offensive game plan only works 1D, if it doesn't work, then KQ would take it over for the rest of the game, and it might blow something within the team's paraphrasing. This also applied to Jeff Napa and Pido Jarencio's mediocre type of offensive game plan.
I agree with edging, it's way less used in NBA but we've seen Gobert doing it a lot more last season. It always stresses me out to see a big man out away but it is very efficient to avoid switching bigs on small guards. He did it a lot more with much more efficiency because of the court size in the Olympics (against Canada for example)
We have an important tournament this weekend, so our main focus was to get back without injuries and overload. We could have won by +40 if we tried for sure
9:10 NBA and FIBA should be the same and slowly be aligned in between both playing style adapting the rules one by one every year... In 20 years it will be aligned without noticing !
7:14 sorry to ruin it all for you guys... but Malaga doesn't play in the euroleague. They play in the Basketball champion league, which is a minor series than the euroleague, just like G league it's the minor series of NBA.
Didn't realize there was sh** talking before the game. G League is NOT the second best league in the world. It's not even the third or fourth best. I would argue the NBL is a better league. But yeah, Unicaja were the clear favorites. BUT BUT BUT... For those of us who have watched the G League over several years, it's not a real league. It's an exhibition/development league. You can see it in how G League United played with ZERO cohesion. Sloppy mistakes. Guys didn't know when to look for the pass. It was NOT American-style basketball. Does American ball have more isoball? Yeah. But not this much. NBA is what American basketball looks like. College ball is American basketball (which is very different than American professional basketball). Just an FYI, I personally watch a lot more college ball than pro. Duke Blue Devils fan here. You clearly know your ball, but respectfully, I think you simplify the American game. That said, I think you do an excellent job of explaining the European game for those who don't follow it. Not for the channel owner, but for the Euro fans who are salty: I just don't understand why so many fans of European basketball have such a huge chip on their shoulder. I literally didn't know that was true until I watched G League v Unicaja. I can tell you right now, North American fans don't lose any sleep over the G League getting trounced. They don't consider which Euroleague teams would beat which NBA teams. Some of them don't know what the Euroleague is. They aren't listening to you. Even when Serbia or France beat the USA in the Olympics, they average American won't care. Don't waste your time on bragging rights. Focus on the game. The European game is different and just as good as the American game. When you do run into an American that you can educate, don't be a jerk about it. As you are probably aware Americans (and pretty much everyone else in the world) don't take kindly to someone talking sh**. SEE MY FIRST SENTENCE ABOVE. NO ONE RESPECTED THE SMACK TALK.
I like this post except at some points, the American game is not equal to the European game, strategically wise, coaching etc sure but skill wise and players wise it's not even close. Also the reason for the fact NBA ball has more iso ball is because players are so much better, defense in the NBA ain't bad, the offense has just developed to become something unstoppable. If I said, I wanted to give you a 6'9 240 pound big who can shoot, pass and even play iso, shows up in important moments and can play with or without the ball, you would think this guy would be a star but in reality, it's just naz Reid. Now this is my question to you since you watched duke a lot, in Kyries 30 pt game with the blue devils, he barely played iso but now he's notorious for it same with jt. This is because at some point, coaches realize that a team play where a decent shooter like pj Washington getting a semi contested shot isn't better than Devin booker shooting a contested shot.
I agree with Juan Anderson but gleague guys have a call up mentality in terms of individuals … they also have no chemistry as the team was just founded this year
It's so interesting to see how different is the USA and Euro mentality in sports in general. USA - Hustle, fame, ego boost, "im the king" mentality. Europe - Humble, obedient to your coach, respect.
Imagine if they played against the actual European champions Panathianaikos, 40/50 points blow up no doubt. Glad we gave them a lesson, love from Málaga.
@@2millonesdebolivares509 imagine if Unicaja had played against a real American team instead of a random group of players put together by the NBA's developmental league.
never comment, but i gotta say that Unicaja aint an average team... My team plays against them in the acb and they dominated, at least this season. Beat us heavily, they finished ahead of Madrid and Barcelona in the acb, first of the whole nation, and woulda met Madrid in the finals had Unicaja not met an unfavourable matchup in the semis. That dont mean average in my book.
And they don't play Euroleague on Thursdays or Fridays, so they have couple of days to prepare for the weekend ACB games, while Euroleague teams don't have "same room". Baskonia finished 9th or 10th in ACB, but it still is not worse than Unicaja which was 1st. Basically teams like Gran Canaria, season in Eurocup and was a good team in ACB, but when they relegated to Euroleague, they were at the bottom of both leagues, because after Euroleague games they could't win in ACB - this is the main reason why they won Eurocup and refused to play Euroleague, so in Euroleague standards it's pretty modest teams, while being the elite in Eurocup
@@TMPOUZI Well, the last season that Unicaja played in the Euroleague, with a worse team than the one it has now, it placed 9th in Europe out of 18 teams, playing all 34 Euroleague games and was in the semi-finals of the ACB league, playing all 34 league games. Conclusion, never despise Unicaja because it is a big team from Spain that was asleep and a team that has played at the highest level in Europe for 15 years in a row, reaching a Euroleague semi-final, not everyone can say the same.
Main reasons are the court sizes. US sports always goes a different way. NHL also have different size in ice rink as the rest of the world. But what stands out for me the most is this motivational speak to get to the top flight and the focus point was money not trophys/win something. 😅😂😂
american basketball players just try to be curry, carmelo, lebron etc, they dont see basketball as a team sport but just as an opportunity to be famous, glorious and rich!!
For your next video, may I suggest you show the differences in game violations especially in respect to traveling between NBA 😂 vs FIBA 😊 rules. Or just insert this topic suggestion in any of your future videos please.
Calling Unicaja an "average european team" is insanely disrespectful. Very weird claim to make when making a video criticizing someone for saying something similar.
Theres a reason these guys are in the G-League. Their on ball creation is nonexistent or primitive. Or in the best case still developing. They are at best role players in the NBA, but most of them never get that far. I dare to say, most of them never get to euroleague. On the other hand, euroleague guys are the elite in what europe has to offer. More on ball creation, more discipline, more understanding of the game. They know the basketball alphabet, while G-League guys even if they know it , don't show it because they want to showcase their individual talent, which is lackluster, hence they play in G-League, not in the NBA or euroleague
Yeah G-League is basically the NBA preventing the euroleague from taking developing talent away from the american continent. The G-League players very often are not even close to NBA ready and their best option would be to play overseas, but many of these players opt to play G-League now because payment is fine and they can still be somewhat close to home, which is a big factor.
I've been playing basketball since I was 13...I'm 28 and never head the term on ball creation!? what the hell is that? you mean creating of the dribble? and by the way I disagree with you wholeheartedly! the talent in the g-league is on par with euro league talent! the difference being team structure and coaching! there are numerous guys who started in the g-league THEN went overseas THEN had whole careers in the NBA! ALL BECAUSE THEY GOT AN OPPRTUNITY IN THE G-LEAGUE INITIALLY! there are NBA all-stars in the NBA RIGHT NOW who started in the g-league! and even some who got sent back down to the g-league after being in the NBA for some time and still had careers at the highest level! what you're not realizing is that there are only 510 roster spots in the NBA! a guy can be drafted in the lottery and still get sent to the g-league because the roster is damn near full! or there's a guy 3 or 4 years older that might not be as good but has more experience! the g-league is not where the NBA sends sorry players...it's a proving ground...a filtering process! I would actually argue that there's more individual raw talent in the g-league than there is in the entirety of euro league at the moment!
@@jekubb4348 no, there isn't more talent on the g league than the euroleague. Maybe some individuals per year, but not as a whole. These guys did not lose to a euroleague team. They lost to a team that would get destroyed by most euroleague clubs. If there was so much talent in the g-league, it would offset the fact that they lacked chemistry, playing against a team in the second or third tier of European basketball.
@@georges6957 no it wouldn't offset anything! the talent discrepancy is not as high as people are making it seem on either side! a talented but disorganized and uninterested team is going to struggle every time against a team that is well coached organized and disciplined! the game doesn't work that way! talent doesn't offset hard work and preparation! one guy on one team might be better than all 12 to 15 on another but that doesn't mean they will win the game! not to mention the average age of Unicaja Malaga is 3.5 to 4 years older than the g-league united average age! 🧐
The different sizes of the courts, imo, explains a lot about the difference in the games on either side of the Atlantic. The larger court in the NBA makes team defense harder; individual offense easier; emphasizes quickness; de-emphasizes detailed positioning. The preference the American 'system' shows for attributes such as athleticism and wingspan is a product of that - they mitigate the problems of the big court while maximizing its opportunities. Another aspect that is sometimes underrated imo is the social place of sports. At the club where I coach, I know a bunch of the high-level youth players. None of these guys feel that they will either make pro or amount to nothing in life. Their opportunities in education aren't influenced by whether they're picked for the next higher team. Whether it's actually true or not, that attitude is baked in to every level of competitive sport in the US. The higher skill level but lower team play is the result of that culture: For the formative years of your time in the sport, you play (and are coached) to be picked. You need to stand out. By the time you're in college or pros, and it's no longer as much about that, you and everyone around you has been shaped by that. We can see that on the court - in the good and the bad.
Very nice video. imho the most important difference is the time of a player on the field. in NBA a star will play 30/35' over 48, in Europe it would be 20/25' over 40'. in NBA every one goes full gas and doesn't care about turnovers. in Europe a turnover at the wrong moment means bench for 3 or 4 matches. so basically what I'm saying is that going full gas and staying a lot out of the bench will not let you to cover all the field in defence, so it's easier watching the ball instead to stay with your man or cover the area in a zone defence.
True but the play style is still the same. League teams in general are just put together all season since the 2 way guys come and go and people get dropped quickly
That team is new they dont have a chance … put the team in gleague that won the finals and they would have the best team in euro league run for their money
Yeah and they played like it…. that’s no excuse though, if you’re out here telling everyone you’re better players from the 2nd best league on the planet, then go on to beat Tasmania by 2 points (a team that has also not been together very long) and get smacked by Malaga so bad they were down by as much as 22 early in the second half. Well, I’d like to see them show it 🤷♂️
Not even the best of the best in the G league. They had a Japanese guy their who was only for promotion since he is quite popular. More like it was who was available at the time of the selection. GLeague MVP wasn't even around. Plus the team they faced went through a rough European qualifier. And GLeague team didn't even need a qualifier and just went to play right away. Might have had a chance if they selected the GLeague champs. That one had a year-long chemistry from last season.
Unicaja inst medium level my friend, they have beaten madrid, barcelona and baskonia recently, also they won copa del rey and have been playing great basketball the last couple years.
I don't think Unicaja Malaga is a Medium level team in Europe, I think they could beat almost every Euroleague team. Last year in ACB was the perfect example beating Madrid, Barça, Baskonia, València and even Manresa
Exactly. Unicaja is not an average team. When you consider how competitive the ACB is, with top EuroLeague, EuroCup, and Basketball Champions League teams, and how well Unicaja performed there last year-even winning the BCL trophy-it’s clear they aren't just an average team, but a great European team.
Toscano literally tried to sign with Murcia and didnt succeed, then he ended up playing in mexico. Then santa cruz warriors, then some nba career without doing much noise, winning a ring with the warriors in the bench. He tried to survive in the league but ended up on the g league again with 31 y/o. Still his dream of winning hundreds of millions is still alive, sure dude!
Euroleague has legal hand-checking and no defensive three-second rule. Therefore, defense is stronger. Therefore, offense has to raise their game to overcome it. Therefore, Euroleague players are better. Luka Doncic said this.
Not what he said. He said scoring in the NBA is easier because of the rules, and obviously because of the teams and players adapting to defense and spacing, but the NBA players were better.
Great work as always, the difference in styles is a result of the rules applied in each continent, and the talent of the players. I think the perfect match would be the talented players of USA with the knowledge of fundamentals and the attention to detail that the european players have.
All of this lead to one conclusion that should make NBA and Team USA program really start questioning it. The new Generation of American players are not taught the fundamendals , as you mention defensive rebounding , 5 man defense , off ball movement etc. They rely heavy on athletisism. Also , they think 1on1 and getting buckets will get them in the league but thats not it. On the other side , European players are taught on a very high level offensive and defensive tactics and now they are getting close on infrastructure and training facilities so they can get more athletes to train like American ones. So the gap of athletisism is getting closer but at the same time basketball IQ and the idea of playing the game right is much more developed. In addition , Europeans starting to be better on 1vs1 year by year but on their own way. For example , they attacking close outs better , they are making better reads better split out decision they shoot better standing and off ball even off dribble. Another fact on why American Basketball will continue to decline is that in todays American society young athletes are getting paid before they even make it to the league. I mean social media , sponsors etc or they have family connections to the league.Which means they are already multi millioners before they make it to the league.Which means , no motivation or motor to wake up 4:30 am and become better for example , while Europe is on economic crisis and more kids want to make it so they work harder. An example is , the last 2 World cups when Team USA finished 4th and 8th while having a roster of their best youngsters. Remove KD , CURRY and BRON and see what happens. They wont win another gold so easy.
The US just dominated in the Olympics The US beat the World at the Nike Hoop Summit The US u17 dominated everyone to win the FIBA u17 World Championship The all time Euroleague scorer is American The Euroleague Mvp in American All the best players in the Euroleague are Americans Most top European talents are leaving Europe because of the NIL. Guess what many American AAU teams are copying European club style of development 😂. Also the NIL means players will stay in college longer, have more money for access to training, nutrition, better coaching The US will be even more dominant the next Olympics
@@mufasa2009 Steph Curry who became the best shooter of all time , was handed an embarrasing defeat at FIBA U19 . We are talking about MEN competition! In the Olympics the didnt dominate at all , they were this close for the most embarassing defeat ever , they needed the best shooter of all time the GOAT and the best Scorer of all time to beat Serbia . As Anthony Edwards mention he wont be available for events with Team USA in the future , guess why? The same thing that happened the last two World Cups will continue to happen more often.
@@ElyTeo They had one close game all others was double digit wins. The U17 and the US world team at the Nike Summit destroyed and obliterated all the European teams including France. The next Olympics will be in Los Angeles that means all hands on deck all the talent available. It will be complete domination similar to 2016. Young athletic bigs, skilled guards, athletic wings and depth. No country can match the US period end of story.
Unicaja won the ACB regular season last year, maybe just an average european team is misleading, probably they would be a decent euroleague team. The ACB is too loaded to play Euroleague and ACB anyway, only football club budgets survive playing both competitions.
Watching the different playstyles it feels like watching a team from the playground play against a club team. Do you know what i mean? NBA is all about becoming a star, show off how high u can jump, what you are able to create in iso. Divas. LeBron. European´s don´t do that. They wanna win and are trained to play together, because Basketball is only to be won as a team. Except your name is e.g. Michael Jordan.
Motivation is also a factor here. Each player in the GLeague is trying to be a hero so he can get an NBA contract while most of the guys in Europe are playing to win as a team. If the GLeague switched to a system where they're no longer about developing guys but they'd also have vets to anchor teams to win, then it'd be a pretty different league. I'm not saying the Americans would win but those are just factors
Team ball is not the same and fiba rules are not the same. No one said g league was better than euroLeague as salaries do reflect but g league is a good stepping stone to the nba
@@elef951 how would they? They would be competing with the very bottom teams. One of their best players couldn't make an NBA roster. Team ball only lasts so long against other better players with chemistry as well
from all that.. they key take is on JTAs words... "make millions, hundreds of millions" these cats are a) DELUSIONAL and b) they care more about the money and the lifestyle than the game itself. thats why the NBA has become an empty shell of what it used to be. players want the easy way to success, shortcuts, and the max contract as fast as possible.
@@milesmoralescousin Only because of the funding. If it had less money, best players would play somewhere else. It's not what it used to be. 20+ years ago we would wait after midnight to watch NBA games because of the love of the sport. At first you called it a sport, then it was entertainment, now it's a business. The passion is out of the NBA.
@@RachelCooper-z2h provide for families and baby mamas. Average black NBA players are not family men like Bron or Curry. Most of them are thugs, and snow bunnies go for them because of money, thats why. America, ladies and gentleman.
@@DimShamrock He was on the warriors in his rookie year, and then Lakers but never really showed anyone why he deserved to be in the league in the first place. But ofc now he thinks he is an nba player and makes these type of speeches because he thinks he belongs somewhere else instead of G-League and losing to european teams :D
@@MrSheduur When you're saying he "was" on the warriors, you mean like he used to carry everyone's bags right? I mean he got paid. But you can't call that an NBA player.
in the regular season. After the playoffs and in the final standings they were 3rd. But third in arguably the best national/regional league with the most Euroleague teams and better then 3 Euroleague teams (Barcelona, Baskonia & Valencia Basket)
@@soik1401so did you want to say they are not the average, they are one of the best teams like panatha, oly, real, monaco, fener, macabi, barca, partizan, efes? If yes, u r crazy:) They are not even among teams like zvezda, bayern, milan, zalgiris, valencia or baskonia... But I believe they are in the shelf like alba, asvel, paris, gran canaria, juventut, tenerife - the average ones
I was going to make a comment about the superiority of club style systems, but now I'm thinking more about how it was an ad hoc team vs. a team that has been together and run plays together and has practiced together a lot with specific goals in mind.
7:12 Let's see Juan Toscano's stats from this game: FG 3/11 (27,3%) 2pt 2/7 (28,6%) 3pt 1/4 (25%) +/- (-13) He did better perfomance talking loud on the bench, than on the field
Honestly no surprise. They came with 'all stars' of the league where individual streaks of execellence are valued over winning and they came to the place where winning is more valued than your own stats.
Prior note to the boxing out on rebounds: don't forget the NBA doesn't allow rebounding until the ball is out of the rim (goaltending rule) whereas FIBA does. This means FIBA players are generally more aggressive pursuing rebounds (just a mindset). I fully agree there should be an alignment of rules. Keep NBA courts - spacing is great - but keep a lot of FIBA rules (3 second defensive violation should however exist - it leads to too much boring stuff). Most important would be some proper officiating in the NBA, especially regarding traveling , which is getting out of hand (LeBron is basically playing handball by now). Then add some of the physicality of FIBA (you'd see a lot less Anthony Edwards super posters if he's not allowed to basically use defenders as ladders) so you can enhance defending. So and in short: - From the NBA: courts, 3 sec def violation, transition take fouls, 24 sec shot clock, 48 min games, 6 personal fouls - from FIBA: rebounding possible as soon as ball touches the rim, more physicality, better officiating regarding the fundamentals (dribbling, steps, etc) These are just some ideas I'd like to see. Would love to hear/read yours (including disagreements)
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I would like the bigger court, but FIBA rules, especially defensive 3 seconds and offensive basket interference. I never understood why you would make it harder to get tipdunks, especially in the show-driven NBA. Makes no sense at all
@EmanuelAzevedo6i don’t think they should do promo/rel. they should do qualification based on domestic competitions like in football
Ever time nba players are in fiba or olimpics referring changes because they just can’t play basketball without traveling. They should have the same rules and courts but still in nba they do not call traveling to stars like LeBron. So if they want to play a game a basketball and travel you really can’t just play against them. Like Steph curry in the Olympics. Traveling all the time
I agree. Same for hockey. Rules should be the same in all sports.
@@ssk-_-dotz3773trueee. And based on sports merit, not who has the most cash
european teams are real teams, gleague teams are just groups of players who try to prove things for their career, no team goals, no legacy, nothing
Μου άρεσε που οι τυπάδες έπαθαν ό,τι έπαθαν . Τους άξιζε και με το παραπάνω .
exactly, circus ponies.
in fact it was a combined team of the best players
yes so more talent but no team chemistry
Lol it’s literally a bunch of players trying to make it to the NBA, obviously they don’t have the seasonal aspirations, but that makes it even more embarrassing for euro teams cause you guys would get cooked by majority of gleague teams in a nba setting 😂🤷🏾♂️
No one thinks the G league is the second best league in the world. Its clearly the euroleague.
Actually for Americans: NBA > G league > NCAA > Euroleague > any local league in EU. Some of them even believe that good high school teams can beat Euroleague champions thanks to their superior athleticism.
@berryesseen No. They dont believe that. Thats idiotic.
@@deelak2329 Have you met with any American who likes basketball? They think they are centuries ahead of Europe.
And how do they explain 2 out of last 6 Mvps won by Europeans, and probably at least 3-4 more in the upcoming years?@@berryesseen
@@deelak2329I've seen many comments online saying NCAA teams would destroy Euroleague teams 😂
The saddest thing is not the disrespect for the opponent. The saddest thing is that their motivation is to "make millions"
the saddest thing is that euroleague teams would lineup for MONTHS to sign some of those united players
@@pas69tie Like who?
@@pas69tie lol not even close
Ok boomer.!! Hahahaha. My grandma kicks their ass for fun.
Sad truth
Nothing against JTA, but his desperation to get back to the league made him say those things. Don’t disrespect other leagues, don’t disrespect your opponent and accept it your NBA bench riding days are over. Be grateful that you can still play the game.
Dude can ride the bench on a euro league team, probably ;)
It was corny
He was trying to light a fire under his team not disrespect anyone.
@@Prandough He was trying to light a fire under his team BY disrespecting their opponents, there, fixed it for ya
It's a motivational in the moment speech. Idk if this is a cultural thing you guys don't understand or what but it's not personal. It's not a serious thought out opinion. It's hyping his guys up trying to give them motivation for one game of basketball. Does anyone not want to admit the ultimate goal is the NBA? Especially for these American guys. Of course he's going to push them to be better than a Euroleague team because he knows most of those guys if they had their preference would want to be in the NBA not in Euroleague.
GLeague is literally set up for players to play as individuals. I’m not surprised they got whooped by a legit Euro team. Completely different mindset of the players.
The same holds true for AAU basketball, where individual performance is valued more than team play. That’s the reason why so many NBA coaches hate AAU.
I agree with you, no one in the gleague want to play there so they play individually to try to go in the nba
@@Allareone2yet the AAU players are beating the European teams on all stages U16 U17 U18 U19
@@samcalven12 Well, that just shows that at high school age, individual talent beats team play. Perhaps it's not very surprising, as the latter takes years to develop.
Five of the six top scorers in this game for Unicaja were Americans, and the sixth played American college basketball, so what does this result even prove? That Americans playing in Europe are better than Americans playing in the G-league?
Unicaja is not a Euroleague team for the moment. You can describe them as Eurocup level.
Nowadays, they would compete against euroleagues team. I think they would win a couple of teams such as alba berlin, bayern for example. I would say the can compete a couple more. All with respect for the euroleagues team.
but they're at that level tho, aren't they? They beat AS Monaco recently which is like one of the top teams in that league.
That makes the point of this video about American basketball's weaknesses even more valid.
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beat ?? are you joking, it was a friendly game, do you know what that means ?
Are they not playing in BCL? Third tier
Imo the reason why FIBA and NBA evolved the way they are now is about the professional structure. NBA teams are franchises, as long as they don't have financial issues, they belong to the NBA. Being bad only means better chance to get a better player next draft. So what they need is showmanship to keep money getting in. This reflects on the NBA rules and play style. In Europe, professional naional leagues are organized by level. If one team has the poorest results they play in lower grade league next season with tremendous impact for the team organization and finance. This also reflects on the playstyle; team strength over individual talent
and although the euroleague is a closed league for many teams, the fans are not going to allow a madrid, a barcelona, an olympiakos etc... to let themselves lose games to get a better position in a supposed draft
@@joseuseroasensio7148 Is there even a draft in Euroleague? I thought it was just "cash is king" like they do in soccer.
@@SupersonicWaveLength no, there isnt , it's like u say, what i wanted to say is that the idea of a draft would be unthinkable for european fans
Five of the six top scorers in this game for Unicaja were Americans, and the sixth played American college basketball, so what does this result even prove? That Americans playing in Europe are better than Americans playing in the G-league?
@@joseuseroasensio7148 Euroleague is not closed in like NBA terms. Out of 30 teams, only 12 are untouchable due to their previous constant success and of course having a lots of money, that makes other 18 slots free for other teams to grab, national champions from the strongest leagues, and best performing teams that play in qualis. I would say its fair, every team that is performing really really good on international level has a chance to get into EL
"Why do we have such a difference" Well it was answered by a player, as he said "We want to play in the NBA to make million". So they focus on their own contract not on the team results. That's where the difference lies.
Pretty much a cultural difference in general.
@@vince8638 yet he went to Europe for more money. Do you believe Kobe's scripted interviews too?
Agree. The problem is that it's hard to showcase your individual skills while losing the match.
That's why Nikkola Jokic is unstoppable. 1 on 1, he isn't most athletic. But as a team player, his decision making and ability to find the open man is off the chart. And, he also has enough 1 on 1 moves to be very effective. But his team play is what sets him apart. And BB is a TEAM game. Yeah...I'm not surprised that the Euro teams are beating up our G League.
@@JohnBowl14690 why wouldn't they? Europe has always been much better than the d and g leagues here. Before that they were our developmental leagues. You're talking men compared to boys.
To give some context, Unicaja is a playoff team in the Spanish ACB league. They were champions once (2004-2005 season). They were a bottom half Euroleague team from 2001-2002 to 2018-2019, they played in the final four once (2006-2007 season), and they haven't played in Euroleague since the 2018-2019 season. And (this is my personal opinion) if they played Euroleague now, it would be very unlikely that they were in the top half of the teams.
great context however in the video he says it's a medium-level team in Europe which is just not true. They tied Real Madrid in the ACB for points last season and as you said they could compete with the lower half of the Euroleague. So, it's one of the best ~15 teams in Europe.
@@gian6533not even close.maybe 14-15 yes .
@@manolakiss7 they are definitely not one of the best 8 teams however they are surely in the top 20. They significantly outperformed Valencia & Baskonia in the ACB league (2 Euroleague clubs, 1 made the playoffs). They won the Champions League, going 14-2. The point I wanted to make is, that it's not just any medium team in Europe. It's one of the best and we can argue if it's the 14/15th or even 25th best team in Europe. It's not just a medium team.
@@gian6533this is true, but Baskonia and Valencia play 2 leagues at the same time. Unicaja play only ACB and the cup BCL, so it's more hard for Baskonia and Valencia with a lot of games
@@gian6533 Malaga is like a top 15-20 team in Europe, yes. But I think when he said they are a mid level team in Europe, what he meant was a mid level team if they were in EuroLeague, which is actually being generous.
The fact that some basketball players occasionally get together and shoot a basketball to a hoop does not make them a team, thus these teams do not add up to a league. It's barely more than a pick-up game.
Yup. The g league team probably had two to three weeks of practice and roster build up. Meanwhile other teams have been playing their rosters for atleast two to three years now.
@@jic-z4e Give the G-League team 5 years of playing and adjusting time and the result won't change. "Our goal is to play in the NBA and make miliions or hundreds of million dollars" was enough said why they are in the G-League and got woopped.
Izan Almansa said that the in g league players don't care about winning games, they are there to get to the NBA and show their skills so they end up playing to show off and not to win
100% this. Going to Singapore was a paycheck.
That just proves that their level is lower. Showing off does not mean you don't score does it. So even when showing off they don't even make the shot . Steph curry shows off everyday and his team wins
Five of the six top scorers in this game for Unicaja were Americans, and the sixth played American college basketball, so what does this result even prove? That Americans playing in Europe are better than Americans playing in the G-league?
@@rowannixon3180 yes they are and it proves that European basketball and the way of playing is way better than American basketball because in the G-leage everyone is just trying to show of their skills to get to then nba and not to win as a team and this is not just my opinion it has been said by the players
@@rowannixon3180 Unicaja has the level to compete against several teams in the nba
If that was Barcelona or Real madrid they would get swept by 50 points.
there are are at least 8 teams that would beat them by 50, not just those 2
Fenerbahçe or PAOK
Just Larkin would put 50 points bro
@@miroslavjovic7739its fenerbahce not fenerbache, secondly idk about f4 but fener will finish above cvezda thats what i know, u got big mouth just bcuz u got a win on fener and look cute on the standings now after 3 matches. this is a long season u will understand soon.
That speech is a summary of American culture: Ignorant, arrogant, money above all else.
Im sorry but im not even american and his speech was good. Of course when motivating a team you're going to say "they arent good, we are better" because thats how you get your players to believe in themselves. If you say "they are so good, they are out playing us tactically, we arent good enough" you might be RIGHT, but you arent going to inspire any confidence. The money dream makes sense when you realise where a lot of the players come from, whats wrong with trying to make 100 million dollars in your 20s and 30s and be set for life? Its a big sacrifice. Pure passion to get rings isnt inherently a superior goal.
How are we arrogant when we literally created and popularized the sport while annihilating the competition continually? If anything this is the one place we should be arrogant. We're not like England in football.
@@Ifreshylactive arrogance has nothing to do with who invented the sport. And you anihilate the competition every time, because you are a 370 mil people country. If we could build a Euro Team, to compete in the Olympics, I'm not sure you would still anihilate anything.
What you see as self confidence there, can be seen as arrogance here.
@@Ifreshylactive tf are you talking about boi? you haven't annahilated anybody, you have more bronze than a gypsy and the refs were your sixth man on this years olympics. you have never dominated anybody really, with the expection of the dream team
@@vt5281 You do realize that our numbers literally go into different sports with American Football being the most played right? Basketball is our second or third, it’s not like we can make other nations adopt basketball more seriously. That’s just a blatant excuse, that Europeans repeat because of football nations like Iceland or anyone else in the world cup with a good run. China and India have more people than any other country and I don’t see their number of players being to our level. Let’s just be honest the only reason our way of doing things is seen as arrogant is because Europeans have a strong dislike for us. Imagine saying that the country with the most olympic gold medals by far with a continuous great crop of talent decade after decade is arrogant because of the way we go about things in something as inconsequential as a sport. Most of you don’t know a thing about America, you just think you do because of the internet.
How is Toscano-Anderson talking like that? He was dog shit in the nba, unplayable.
I was at this tournament, the finals game was a real eye opener. G league team broke down quickly as soon as their shots weren’t falling, there was little communication on the court, a lot of complaining to the refs and a lot of “hero ball”. Tuscano-Anderson spent most of his time complaining about calls, no calls, anything really…. It was boring and frustrating to watch.
Malaga themselves went through a few patches of poor shooting and their captain Diaz sometimes struggled to even get the ball up the floor but they played as a unit, moved the ball and involved everyone in the offence. There was no bad body language or complaints if a shot didn’t fall.
More shockingly, if you think Malaga are an average team, is that on the Friday G league only beat Tasmania on the final play of the game and by a couple of points, they got extremely lucky, they really had no right being in the final game and it would have been far more entertaining to see the Tasmanian Jackjumpers and Jordon Crawford (who was incredible the whole tournament) in the final.
Five of the six top scorers in this game for Unicaja were Americans, and the sixth played American college basketball, so what does this result even prove? That Americans playing in Europe are better than Americans playing in the G-league?
@@rowannixon3180 In the last 5 seasons, all MVPs were foreigners and 3 of the 5 FMVPs were also foreigners. Does this prove that foreigners are better than Americans in the NBA?
@@rowannixon3180 That’s like talking about top scorers on prime Spurs they work together so it doesn’t work
Evan Fournier summarized the differences, he received 3 propositions:
- Washington in NBA: it was meant for mentoring youngtsters in a franchise that will do nothing more than tanking, he refused, no goal, nothing to win
- G-League: he thinks it’s not a real league, only a development one, nothing to win
- Euroleague with Olympiakos, he wanted Paris in Euroleague too but too much point guards there.
Euroleague is definitely way more attractive than playing in those 11th to 15th NBA teams, that’s why he’s accepted the Olympiakos contract. On the other hand Batum will continue in the Clippers, and Yabusele will play for the 76ers: competitive NBA franchises that will go to the playoffs.
The Euroleague is way more motivating than playing in tanking NBA franchises or G-League: team defense fundamentals are way higher, higher IQ, shorter sized court meaning you have to rely on team efforts rather than individual skills. And we all know NBA hates team defense, the pundits in the USA have no clue about what’s team defense.
How about Micic then? He is a Euroleague MVP and 2x Euroleague Final Four MVP and has chosen to stay in Charlotte, one of the worst teams in the league
@@gabepizzahes misabke there and hes there for the money 💸
@@Eclipse89 he wants the chance to prove he's among the best of the world and also for the money. Fournier is 31, has been in the league for 12 years and was a bench player in the worst team in the league last year. It's obviously his time to prove himself in the NBA is over. Micic, while 30 himself, has only been the league for one year so he still has a chance
Fournier was never proposed the GLeague… You seriously think GMs were like « Hey Even, what about some GLeague fun time, huh? » … what are you smoking?!
@@joachimmahoudeaux8619 no, he went there for the money.
Best thing I saw all week. Congrats to Unicaja. They did everybody proud.
To all guys in the G-League, tell your patrons in the NBA that they're next. Curry, Durant and James won't be here for much longer. 😁
Here in Athens, we are still waiting for that Celtics game, you know. Just saying. ☘
the greece national team couldn’t even win a medal and your talking about playing the celtics…. delusional
@@milesmoralescousin he does not mean greece against celtics though
@@milesmoralescousin What are you afraid of, then? 🤣
@@milesmoralescousin Greece has 10mn population. I'm not sure team USA barely beating a bunch of 2-10mn population countries (with the exception of France and Germany at 67mn and 83mn respectively) is anything to be really proud of. Team EU, which has a population closer to the US one would be the favourite. And if you disagree that population size matters, name one US 3mn population city or area that could match Lithuania, or a 7mn population one that could match Serbia, let alone team EU.
@@milesmoralescousin By that logic, Malaga shouldn't have beaten the G-League. Since Spain didn't even qualify to the quarters.
You're hilarious.
Outside of comparing the league, I think it's also important to compare the way players are taught the game. In my opinion, AAU basketball has destroyed North American player's fundamentals. (At this point I don't think it's an opinion but a fact)
They basically spend their summers playing pickup games where they run ISO every posession. And they do this for their entire youth. Until they get to college.
Meanwhile Europeans will play at club level and learn the basics and then start playing in an academy. The best players play senior basketball in their teens where they HAVE to be exceptionally good with their fundamentals because they are the smallest, weakest player on the court.
We've seen the cracks in the USA team. They are no longer the runaway favorite that they were in decades prior. They can lose to any of the best nation in Europe in a tournament. The gap has closed significantly. It took a godlike 4th from Curry to close the deal against France.
There is no debate that the pecking order is NBA>Euroleague and after that somewhere, the NCAA and the G-League.
USA smoked everyone in the Olympics bro.
Well, here is the problem of going from youth to professional: it is very difficult to have minutes in professional leagues for young people because beyond the level they are very competitive leagues, so it is difficult to bet on young talent
no disrespect to malaga, but after hearing that time out 'speech' those g league players should face a team like real oly or pana to undestand their place 🤣🤣
I know this isn’t anywhere near FIBA basketball or pro basketball in general, but I absolutely HATE how very little, people move the ball at my local courts or gyms in America.
Don't worry bro, I played everywhere and that's a common thing.
France and Paris is the same
This happens everywhere and actually a part of it is a result of watching NBA players instead of watching mainly euro or college. I grew up watching college basketball more than the NBA so I was always understanding and preferred to play team basketball. Usually within a few minutes when players see how unselfish I am and constantly trying to make the extra pass they begin to get comfortable with me. I think often times that's the key to not get frustrated and just keep making the correct play. The only negative is sometimes there is that one guy who can never buy in to playing correctly. He has to play hero ball and all it takes is one mf to destroy team ball
@@loverofhumanity man I’m trying lol. I’m actually a really good passer, but I’ve grown frustrated with how very little the average person here knows about ball movement and spacing. It has forced me to get A LOT better offensively though
I stopped playing pickup when it became less actual basketball and more listening to strangers argue with each other.
Frankly speaking, I usually watch some NBA highlights and it's entertaining.
Every time however I try to watch a full game it's unwatchable.
Players make aweful decisions and it feels like they invested fully on their physicality and 3 point shots instead of intellectual basketball.
Yes, having some AMAZINGLY skilled players helps, but what they do, can't be replicated by 99% of the players
cap. all cap.
@@FromTheHippnope, it's the truth.
@@filips7158 shit is beyond cap. Luka, Jokic, Lebron, Kyrie, Steph/Draymond, Kevin Durant, Jalen Brunson, The Celtics as a unit, Coach Pop and the systems and coaches hes created, etc etc. I could literally go on and on about each team, the systems, and the players that exact these systems based all on IQ. and there isnt a single euroleague team that could beat any of the top 25 NBA teams. MAYBE real madrid could contend with the lower end of the NBA but even then i doubt it. you guys say some of the wildest shit
@@FromTheHippLast October, Real Madrid beat the Mavericks playing NBA rules. The Mavericks aren't exactly a low tier NBA team.
IMO is not really the fault of only the NBA players. On the one hand they are expected to shoot the 3 and use layups/dunks as statistically these are the most efficient shots. On the other hand obviously a lot of them grow up utilizing their phsysical superiority and not caring about learning the fundamentals of the game (such as boxing out the opponents). And yes, todays NBA games are mostly unwatchable to me - I just find them way too boring. Grew up during the 80s and 90s (have been able to watch NBA games since the early 90s, shout out to DSF and Guido Franke :) ) and the 90s playstyle appeals a lot more to me.
as a spanish and unicaja fan, i gota say we’re not that average. we’re lacking stars on the team as other european teams (madrid, barcelona, panathinainkos, bayern, fenerbahce, etc), in spite of that we managed to get the best record in acb last season, beating madrid and barcelona during the regular season just by playing as a team and that’s coach ibon navarro’s credit, i believe collective basketball beats by far individual basketball
great video btw :)
ps/ small fact: montenegro’s guard (the who shoots) at 6:10 is kendrick perry, unicaja’s guard
Great analysis!
Back when i played in a basketball team through my teenage years (as power forward & point guard) in Greece around the millenia, our trainer compared European and American basketball playstyles and rules. The european basketball was a zone based game, while the american playstyle was basically a 1 to 1. US basketball had great players (like MJ, Kobe, etc.) but European basketball was always the more intense, which i prefered.
Looks like not much have changed so many years later.
Sounds like your trainer liked to sniff his own farts. 💨
It’s mentality and focus.
USA basket is focused on 1o1 situations, and that mentality is enforced in college where players try to show off to be picked by NBA teams, whereas elsewhere, yes there are players who stand out and can make awsome playes (eg, Luka), but they are backed up by a system where you rely on the team and movement
To be fair this FIBA Cup is more of an obscure tournament than a high-calibre competition but congratulations to the GLeague team becoming the first one since the GLeague teams joined the Cup in 2019 that managed to reach the final. In all the previous tournament the GLeague champion failed to win the semi.
Even if it's a new team without chemistry, it's no excuse for poor defensive rebounds, lack of box out. This is one of the fundamentals of basketball and even at low level, you'd end up on the bench if you don't do it correctly.
I played basketball in the past, I'm from Portugal. And I can say that were trained to function as a whole, unity was a very valuable lesson we took.
If the team got bad results, next year could play on a lower level division, and that's not what we want, so we always gave our best and worked together all the times.
Unicaja Malaga is not an average team they had the first seed in the ACB last season (over Barca, Real and Baskonia) and they won the BCL. They also won the spaish cup in 2023.
In all european championships sometimes non euroleague teams have first seed or outperform euroleague teams(mostly because they play less games) but when playoff time comes you can clearly see the difference (sometimes not in the single games but over the series it will be clear)so malaga might be a bit over the average but it is far from being one of the best teams in Europe
Five of the six top scorers in this game for Unicaja were Americans, and the sixth played American college basketball, so what does this result even prove? That Americans playing in Europe are better than Americans playing in the G-league?
@@rowannixon3180 Wow, you really love shoving this copy pasta into completely unrelated comments. I'm pretty sure this is going to be the only response it gets, though.
@@rowannixon3180 Yes we are talking about coaching, systems, and the way of playing, not nationality.
@@BillyJoe-e8x Hm. Then when this hastily assembled G-league (non) team beat a team from Serbia last month, what do we conclude? When NCAA teams travel to Europe and often beat professional European teams, what should we then assume?
Learned a lot from this video, thanks. Great work. 👍
Solid video as usual. We are collectively not speaking enough of the fact that whenever US and Euro basketball are facing, it is under FIBA rules. Make it NBA rules and it will be a very different story, and that's coming from a European.
Not true at all. Whenever NBA teams play agains Euro teams it's NBA rules. Most recent Mavs @ Madrid, too lazy to look up more but they almost always play NBA rules.
I don’t see how it would make any real difference, or negate a 20 point difference, especially in this game. G League team just weren’t making shots and they got plenty of late foul calls on shot attempts, maybe refs trying to keep it competitive 🤷♂️ ?
On the other side Malaga had to contened with American players that didn’t seem to understand a defensive stance, how to slide their feet and not swipe at the ball with the offhand, there was a lot of uncalled fouls, but never mind, the better team won.
What are you talking about?
Olympic games, USA vs Serbia ?
Helooo?
@@0trov_ FIBA Rules.
@@janremongalura5713 With all those travel and carry balls.. Ye...right
Outstanding video. Your analysis is exactly correct.
Just to correct you, Unicaja is far from an average European team considering they were leading ACB league last year. The fact that they are not playing Euroleague is more political rather than the ability to compete in that league. But Americans need to be humbled and its a great start. They used to run those NBA vs European exhibitions games before but seems they have stopped them as European teams were actually beating NBA teams easily.
Y’all were beating this caliber of team. Why we gotta be humble when we been undefeated for twenty years?
It's not politics why Unicaja is not in EuroLeague anymore. It's performance and money. EuroLeague relegates one license team every 5 years. They take the results of the last 5 years, and the team with the worst record losses its license. They also look at how the EuroLeague teams perform in their national leagues, and if they don't make the playoffs a couple times, they lose the license. Unicaja failed to get the playoffs in Spain and they had the worst record in EuroLeague's license teams over 5 years. So they lost their license. They got dropped down to EuroCup, and then won it, and then came back to EuroLeague. But then they failed to make the playoffs, and got sent back to EuroCup. Then Unicaja themselves decided as a club that they wanted to move to the FIBA BCL, rather than play in EuroCup, win it, and go back to EuroLeague again.
They chose that because they had lowered their budget from around €20 million euros to around €14 million euros. And because of that, they couldn't make rosters that would be competitive in the EuroLeague. So it made more sense then to play in the FIBA BCL than the EuroCup, since FIBA BCL gives more money to its teams than EuroCup does.
So there was nothing political about why Unicaja is no longer in EuroLeague. It is because of performance results and economics.
I'm not American but this is farther from the truth than most claims here. NBA teams treated those games as exhibition games while the Europeans were trying to prove that they are on the same level, yet when it comes to actual international tournaments, other countries can't really compare. The last time the us lost in Olympic basketball was 2004 when it was led by the most dysfunctional roster ever. Before you say fiba wc let me tell you this, those teams sent in fiba are basically Madrid u19 teams being sent to the world cup
@@Justatme-f3zGood yapping. You seem to forget that USA were a couple of Serbia blunders away from missing the Olympic Final and you also seem to forget that Germany are currently world champions. Sure USA are still the best team on paper, but Europe is catching up.
@@Justatme-f3z Lebron, Melo,CP3,Howard,Bosh,Elton Brand, Joe Johnson. This was part of the roster when they lost to Greece. Madrid U19 my ass.
the opening speech says it all: they want to play to make money, in the rest of he world basically you play because you like the sport and you want glory and trophies
The video could have ended in the first 14 seconds. They lost because their dream is to make hundreds of millions of dollars, meanwhile in Europe the dream is to be the best basketball player and win everything.
lol gtfoh. They play for money, every single one of them. Doesn't matter if they're from the us europe or africa. If they weren't getting paid they wouldn't be as passionate. When you have a group of guys who've played together throughout the years play against guys who just got assembled obviously they're going to be a better team. Common sense isn't so common I guess
@@trladc8 there gonna say anything to make themselves feel good
@@trladc8 You dont know what you are talking about...
@@trladc8 The majority do play for money, but their dream isn't to play and get rich, reading skills aren't so common I guess.
@mihailovasic4623 stop lying to yourself. Any player who isn't in the nba already would jump at the opportunity to play in the league. If your statement were true there wouldn't be guys like jokic or luka in the nba. The reality is not everyone is good enough for the nba so they end up going or staying in euro leagues, and that is a fact. Sorry to burst your bubble of fantasies lil kid. Why's wembenyama in the nba? Why's Luka? Why's jokic? Why's giannis? Because they know you don't get cool points for staying in euro leagues. The nba is the best of the best (as we seen in the Olympics 😉😏) and they get paid more than any other league.
Wow your explanation PLUS your examples are “clear as night and day”. 👍
That´s rather surprising! Being from Germany the one thing I remember best from my time at a US High School,was the emphasis my coach put on boxing out - I wasn´t aware that this fundamental deteriorates in the higher spheres of B-Ball in the US.
I mean if you watch the clip only in the first one it looks bad but the rest it’s guys not boxing out people that aren’t crashing the boards either so I guess take it or leave it
@@henningbicknese8300in europe when the shots in the air you should better look at your or an open man or you get subed really quick.
Great analysis. Thank you.
That Toscani guy is obviously full of himself, your G League team lost guy 😂😂
Love this type of analysis thanks
Filipino coaches and ballers should take notes on these to improve in international competitions.
Nope the PBA fans will say Ginebra and SMB are stronger teams🤣🤣
If there's only coach who is willing to adapt that system, just talk to EAC and CSB coaches. Even if takes months to efficiently execute some of team-oriented plays, they're trying their best to make the impossible things possible thru their research and experiment. For UAAP normies, Topex's offensive game plan only works 1D, if it doesn't work, then KQ would take it over for the rest of the game, and it might blow something within the team's paraphrasing. This also applied to Jeff Napa and Pido Jarencio's mediocre type of offensive game plan.
I agree with edging, it's way less used in NBA but we've seen Gobert doing it a lot more last season. It always stresses me out to see a big man out away but it is very efficient to avoid switching bigs on small guards. He did it a lot more with much more efficiency because of the court size in the Olympics (against Canada for example)
unicaja wasnt even trying
We have an important tournament this weekend, so our main focus was to get back without injuries and overload. We could have won by +40 if we tried for sure
@@osvaldasn Who, G-League? Because they lost..?
9:10 NBA and FIBA should be the same and slowly be aligned in between both playing style adapting the rules one by one every year... In 20 years it will be aligned without noticing !
Agree for the rules but not for the playing styles! That's the great thing in it... a confrontation of styles of Bball!
"The G League's Best" is no better than an average European team. The majority of these players will not make nba rosters or have long nba careers.
Great video dude 🔥
7:14 sorry to ruin it all for you guys... but Malaga doesn't play in the euroleague. They play in the Basketball champion league, which is a minor series than the euroleague, just like G league it's the minor series of NBA.
When Luka Doncic says, "Scoring in FIBA is way more difficult". He is not an average guy in the NBA, so you should trust him.
Great video.
Didn't realize there was sh** talking before the game. G League is NOT the second best league in the world. It's not even the third or fourth best. I would argue the NBL is a better league. But yeah, Unicaja were the clear favorites. BUT BUT BUT... For those of us who have watched the G League over several years, it's not a real league. It's an exhibition/development league. You can see it in how G League United played with ZERO cohesion. Sloppy mistakes. Guys didn't know when to look for the pass. It was NOT American-style basketball. Does American ball have more isoball? Yeah. But not this much. NBA is what American basketball looks like. College ball is American basketball (which is very different than American professional basketball). Just an FYI, I personally watch a lot more college ball than pro. Duke Blue Devils fan here. You clearly know your ball, but respectfully, I think you simplify the American game. That said, I think you do an excellent job of explaining the European game for those who don't follow it. Not for the channel owner, but for the Euro fans who are salty: I just don't understand why so many fans of European basketball have such a huge chip on their shoulder. I literally didn't know that was true until I watched G League v Unicaja. I can tell you right now, North American fans don't lose any sleep over the G League getting trounced. They don't consider which Euroleague teams would beat which NBA teams. Some of them don't know what the Euroleague is. They aren't listening to you. Even when Serbia or France beat the USA in the Olympics, they average American won't care. Don't waste your time on bragging rights. Focus on the game. The European game is different and just as good as the American game. When you do run into an American that you can educate, don't be a jerk about it. As you are probably aware Americans (and pretty much everyone else in the world) don't take kindly to someone talking sh**. SEE MY FIRST SENTENCE ABOVE. NO ONE RESPECTED THE SMACK TALK.
This
I like this post except at some points, the American game is not equal to the European game, strategically wise, coaching etc sure but skill wise and players wise it's not even close. Also the reason for the fact NBA ball has more iso ball is because players are so much better, defense in the NBA ain't bad, the offense has just developed to become something unstoppable. If I said, I wanted to give you a 6'9 240 pound big who can shoot, pass and even play iso, shows up in important moments and can play with or without the ball, you would think this guy would be a star but in reality, it's just naz Reid. Now this is my question to you since you watched duke a lot, in Kyries 30 pt game with the blue devils, he barely played iso but now he's notorious for it same with jt. This is because at some point, coaches realize that a team play where a decent shooter like pj Washington getting a semi contested shot isn't better than Devin booker shooting a contested shot.
@@Justatme-f3z Well thought out response. Not sure I agree, but I appreciate the respectful tone and wish to inform and move the conversation forward.
"Our dream is to play in the NBA and make millions" such a wrong motivation but it's the truth in the NBA.
I agree with Juan Anderson but gleague guys have a call up mentality in terms of individuals … they also have no chemistry as the team was just founded this year
It's so interesting to see how different is the USA and Euro mentality in sports in general.
USA - Hustle, fame, ego boost, "im the king" mentality.
Europe - Humble, obedient to your coach, respect.
Well done Malaga , you taught them well . Love from Greece .
Imagine if they played against the actual European champions Panathianaikos, 40/50 points blow up no doubt. Glad we gave them a lesson, love from Málaga.
@@2millonesdebolivares509 imagine if Unicaja had played against a real American team instead of a random group of players put together by the NBA's developmental league.
Very good video!
never comment, but i gotta say that Unicaja aint an average team... My team plays against them in the acb and they dominated, at least this season. Beat us heavily, they finished ahead of Madrid and Barcelona in the acb, first of the whole nation, and woulda met Madrid in the finals had Unicaja not met an unfavourable matchup in the semis. That dont mean average in my book.
exactly
So in what position do you think Malaga would end in euroleague regular season?
And they don't play Euroleague on Thursdays or Fridays, so they have couple of days to prepare for the weekend ACB games, while Euroleague teams don't have "same room". Baskonia finished 9th or 10th in ACB, but it still is not worse than Unicaja which was 1st. Basically teams like Gran Canaria, season in Eurocup and was a good team in ACB, but when they relegated to Euroleague, they were at the bottom of both leagues, because after Euroleague games they could't win in ACB - this is the main reason why they won Eurocup and refused to play Euroleague, so in Euroleague standards it's pretty modest teams, while being the elite in Eurocup
@@TMPOUZI Well, the last season that Unicaja played in the Euroleague, with a worse team than the one it has now, it placed 9th in Europe out of 18 teams, playing all 34 Euroleague games and was in the semi-finals of the ACB league, playing all 34 league games. Conclusion, never despise Unicaja because it is a big team from Spain that was asleep and a team that has played at the highest level in Europe for 15 years in a row, reaching a Euroleague semi-final, not everyone can say the same.
4:42 beautiful ball movement
As an American I absolutely love the competition coming from Europe and the rest of the world.
Main reasons are the court sizes. US sports always goes a different way. NHL also have different size in ice rink as the rest of the world.
But what stands out for me the most is this motivational speak to get to the top flight and the focus point was money not trophys/win something. 😅😂😂
american basketball players just try to be curry, carmelo, lebron etc, they dont see basketball as a team sport but just as an opportunity to be famous, glorious and rich!!
For your next video, may I suggest you show the differences in game violations especially in respect to traveling between NBA 😂 vs FIBA 😊 rules. Or just insert this topic suggestion in any of your future videos please.
Calling Unicaja an "average european team" is insanely disrespectful. Very weird claim to make when making a video criticizing someone for saying something similar.
But Unicaja IS an average european team brother. They are euro cup level
@@sanjin8867 unicaja is top 5 teams in europe. cope
They aren't madrid come on man
@@shemarbrown2523 they beat madrid in their home stadium. would've beat them twice if madrid didn't have referees on their side.
American normies would never understand what you're saying just because they believe that talent over fundamental was still a thing. 😂
Agree 100% with the last suggestion: same rules, same court would be great
Theres a reason these guys are in the G-League. Their on ball creation is nonexistent or primitive. Or in the best case still developing. They are at best role players in the NBA, but most of them never get that far. I dare to say, most of them never get to euroleague. On the other hand, euroleague guys are the elite in what europe has to offer. More on ball creation, more discipline, more understanding of the game. They know the basketball alphabet, while G-League guys even if they know it , don't show it because they want to showcase their individual talent, which is lackluster, hence they play in G-League, not in the NBA or euroleague
Yeah G-League is basically the NBA preventing the euroleague from taking developing talent away from the american continent. The G-League players very often are not even close to NBA ready and their best option would be to play overseas, but many of these players opt to play G-League now because payment is fine and they can still be somewhat close to home, which is a big factor.
Malaga isn't even close to Euroleague tho
I've been playing basketball since I was 13...I'm 28 and never head the term on ball creation!? what the hell is that? you mean creating of the dribble? and by the way I disagree with you wholeheartedly! the talent in the g-league is on par with euro league talent! the difference being team structure and coaching! there are numerous guys who started in the g-league THEN went overseas THEN had whole careers in the NBA! ALL BECAUSE THEY GOT AN OPPRTUNITY IN THE G-LEAGUE INITIALLY! there are NBA all-stars in the NBA RIGHT NOW who started in the g-league! and even some who got sent back down to the g-league after being in the NBA for some time and still had careers at the highest level! what you're not realizing is that there are only 510 roster spots in the NBA! a guy can be drafted in the lottery and still get sent to the g-league because the roster is damn near full! or there's a guy 3 or 4 years older that might not be as good but has more experience! the g-league is not where the NBA sends sorry players...it's a proving ground...a filtering process! I would actually argue that there's more individual raw talent in the g-league than there is in the entirety of euro league at the moment!
@@jekubb4348 no, there isn't more talent on the g league than the euroleague. Maybe some individuals per year, but not as a whole. These guys did not lose to a euroleague team. They lost to a team that would get destroyed by most euroleague clubs. If there was so much talent in the g-league, it would offset the fact that they lacked chemistry, playing against a team in the second or third tier of European basketball.
@@georges6957 no it wouldn't offset anything! the talent discrepancy is not as high as people are making it seem on either side! a talented but disorganized and uninterested team is going to struggle every time against a team that is well coached organized and disciplined! the game doesn't work that way! talent doesn't offset hard work and preparation! one guy on one team might be better than all 12 to 15 on another but that doesn't mean they will win the game! not to mention the average age of Unicaja Malaga is 3.5 to 4 years older than the g-league united average age! 🧐
i had to think of the 2014 Spurs listening to you (hope i have the year right).
The only thing to diminish is the ego driven American ignorance and arrogance
The different sizes of the courts, imo, explains a lot about the difference in the games on either side of the Atlantic. The larger court in the NBA makes team defense harder; individual offense easier; emphasizes quickness; de-emphasizes detailed positioning. The preference the American 'system' shows for attributes such as athleticism and wingspan is a product of that - they mitigate the problems of the big court while maximizing its opportunities.
Another aspect that is sometimes underrated imo is the social place of sports. At the club where I coach, I know a bunch of the high-level youth players. None of these guys feel that they will either make pro or amount to nothing in life. Their opportunities in education aren't influenced by whether they're picked for the next higher team. Whether it's actually true or not, that attitude is baked in to every level of competitive sport in the US. The higher skill level but lower team play is the result of that culture: For the formative years of your time in the sport, you play (and are coached) to be picked. You need to stand out. By the time you're in college or pros, and it's no longer as much about that, you and everyone around you has been shaped by that. We can see that on the court - in the good and the bad.
Not a single NBA team could handle European crowds 🤣
Exactly they know nothing about a hostile environment
💀💀💀 man they say Americans are delusional?
@@FlamesUp1602 Check out a video American players about playing in europe, it has like 4 episodes
Nba team would go in and dominate. All you'd hear is the shoes and the ball bouncing
@@trladc8 💀💀💀
Very nice video.
imho the most important difference is the time of a player on the field. in NBA a star will play 30/35' over 48, in Europe it would be 20/25' over 40'. in NBA every one goes full gas and doesn't care about turnovers. in Europe a turnover at the wrong moment means bench for 3 or 4 matches. so basically what I'm saying is that going full gas and staying a lot out of the bench will not let you to cover all the field in defence, so it's easier watching the ball instead to stay with your man or cover the area in a zone defence.
Let's be honest, this is not an actual G League team. It's a team put together for the sake of the exhibition game.
True but the play style is still the same. League teams in general are just put together all season since the 2 way guys come and go and people get dropped quickly
@@carboy101 I don't care what style you play, if the team is new and has no chemistry then it's guaranteed to fail...that's US or Europe!!!
That team is new they dont have a chance … put the team in gleague that won the finals and they would have the best team in euro league run for their money
Yeah and they played like it…. that’s no excuse though, if you’re out here telling everyone you’re better players from the 2nd best league on the planet, then go on to beat Tasmania by 2 points (a team that has also not been together very long) and get smacked by Malaga so bad they were down by as much as 22 early in the second half. Well, I’d like to see them show it 🤷♂️
Not even the best of the best in the G league. They had a Japanese guy their who was only for promotion since he is quite popular. More like it was who was available at the time of the selection. GLeague MVP wasn't even around. Plus the team they faced went through a rough European qualifier. And GLeague team didn't even need a qualifier and just went to play right away. Might have had a chance if they selected the GLeague champs. That one had a year-long chemistry from last season.
Unicaja inst medium level my friend, they have beaten madrid, barcelona and baskonia recently, also they won copa del rey and have been playing great basketball the last couple years.
I don't think Unicaja Malaga is a Medium level team in Europe, I think they could beat almost every Euroleague team.
Last year in ACB was the perfect example beating Madrid, Barça, Baskonia, València and even Manresa
The most important thing is what happens in the playoffs not regular season unfortunately.
Exactly. Unicaja is not an average team. When you consider how competitive the ACB is, with top EuroLeague, EuroCup, and Basketball Champions League teams, and how well Unicaja performed there last year-even winning the BCL trophy-it’s clear they aren't just an average team, but a great European team.
Yeah sure 😂😂😂
Unicaja's roster would probably be something like around the 15th best roster "on paper" as they say, in EuroLeague, out of 18 teams.
So no, not a great team for Europe.
Toscano literally tried to sign with Murcia and didnt succeed, then he ended up playing in mexico.
Then santa cruz warriors, then some nba career without doing much noise, winning a ring with the warriors in the bench.
He tried to survive in the league but ended up on the g league again with 31 y/o.
Still his dream of winning hundreds of millions is still alive, sure dude!
Euroleague has legal hand-checking and no defensive three-second rule.
Therefore, defense is stronger.
Therefore, offense has to raise their game to overcome it.
Therefore, Euroleague players are better. Luka Doncic said this.
Not what he said. He said scoring in the NBA is easier because of the rules, and obviously because of the teams and players adapting to defense and spacing, but the NBA players were better.
@@crepinhauser5274 Then change the rules back and let's see what they can really do.
This is a really bad take. Euro league players aren’t better than NBA players no fucking way.
@@ColdSnapVA No objection here, I'm all in favor of united rules.
Great video
more and more Americans show respect for the Euroleague. This year's comp will be hell!
Athleticism is more important when you play bigger courts, more games, and longer games.
G League's best? They didn't have a single player from last years all-NBA G League Team. Not 1st, 2nd or 3rd team. It was a random select team.
this channel is trying to push a narrative 😂😂😂😂that g league team had hella random players on it
Unicaja too.
Malaga is in 3rd tier league in Europe
@@thanasistagaras3256 ACB is third tier league?
@@gabepizza Well, it's not the Euroleague.
Great work as always, the difference in styles is a result of the rules applied in each continent, and the talent of the players. I think the perfect match would be the talented players of USA with the knowledge of fundamentals and the attention to detail that the european players have.
All of this lead to one conclusion that should make NBA and Team USA program really start questioning it.
The new Generation of American players are not taught the fundamendals , as you mention defensive rebounding , 5 man defense , off ball movement etc. They rely heavy on athletisism.
Also , they think 1on1 and getting buckets will get them in the league but thats not it.
On the other side , European players are taught on a very high level offensive and defensive tactics and now they are getting close on infrastructure and training facilities so they can get more athletes to train like American ones. So the gap of athletisism is getting closer but at the same time basketball IQ and the idea of playing the game right is much more developed. In addition , Europeans starting to be better on 1vs1 year by year but on their own way. For example , they attacking close outs better , they are making better reads better split out decision they shoot better standing and off ball even off dribble.
Another fact on why American Basketball will continue to decline is that in todays American society young athletes are getting paid before they even make it to the league. I mean social media , sponsors etc or they have family connections to the league.Which means they are already multi millioners before they make it to the league.Which means , no motivation or motor to wake up 4:30 am and become better for example , while Europe is on economic crisis and more kids want to make it so they work harder.
An example is , the last 2 World cups when Team USA finished 4th and 8th while having a roster of their best youngsters.
Remove KD , CURRY and BRON and see what happens. They wont win another gold so easy.
they finished 4th and 7th in the last two World Cups, not 4th and 8th.
@@gabepizza so 7th instead of 8th, i am sorry for my mistake son
The US just dominated in the Olympics
The US beat the World at the Nike Hoop Summit
The US u17 dominated everyone to win the FIBA u17 World Championship
The all time Euroleague scorer is American
The Euroleague Mvp in American
All the best players in the Euroleague are Americans
Most top European talents are leaving Europe because of the NIL.
Guess what many American AAU teams are copying European club style of development 😂.
Also the NIL means players will stay in college longer, have more money for access to training, nutrition, better coaching
The US will be even more dominant the next Olympics
@@mufasa2009 Steph Curry who became the best shooter of all time , was handed an embarrasing defeat at FIBA U19 . We are talking about MEN competition! In the Olympics the didnt dominate at all , they were this close for the most embarassing defeat ever , they needed the best shooter of all time the GOAT and the best Scorer of all time to beat Serbia . As Anthony Edwards mention he wont be available for events with Team USA in the future , guess why? The same thing that happened the last two World Cups will continue to happen more often.
@@ElyTeo They had one close game all others was double digit wins.
The U17 and the US world team at the Nike Summit destroyed and obliterated all the European teams including France.
The next Olympics will be in Los Angeles that means all hands on deck all the talent available.
It will be complete domination similar to 2016.
Young athletic bigs, skilled guards, athletic wings and depth.
No country can match the US period end of story.
Thats cool as heck - Euro League vs G League
Unicaja won the ACB regular season last year, maybe just an average european team is misleading, probably they would be a decent euroleague team. The ACB is too loaded to play Euroleague and ACB anyway, only football club budgets survive playing both competitions.
I want an international tournament with the best nba teams vs the best European teams . Would both help a lot
Watching the different playstyles it feels like watching a team from the playground play against a club team. Do you know what i mean? NBA is all about becoming a star, show off how high u can jump, what you are able to create in iso. Divas. LeBron. European´s don´t do that. They wanna win and are trained to play together, because Basketball is only to be won as a team. Except your name is e.g. Michael Jordan.
Great video, the difference are due to how basketball is teach and how are the programs made up in each continent
In my eyes you are good guys!
Motivation is also a factor here. Each player in the GLeague is trying to be a hero so he can get an NBA contract while most of the guys in Europe are playing to win as a team. If the GLeague switched to a system where they're no longer about developing guys but they'd also have vets to anchor teams to win, then it'd be a pretty different league. I'm not saying the Americans would win but those are just factors
Yeah buddy if you get shit on by an average european team you shouldn't be even close to the nba
Team ball is not the same and fiba rules are not the same. No one said g league was better than euroLeague as salaries do reflect but g league is a good stepping stone to the nba
a bad european team,they dont even play in the euroleague. top 10 euro league teams can play in the nba
@@elef951they could but they would not win many games
@@techr1320 trust me they would
@@elef951 how would they? They would be competing with the very bottom teams. One of their best players couldn't make an NBA roster. Team ball only lasts so long against other better players with chemistry as well
Always liked JTA. He’s a local guy here in the Bay Area, so he had a following. His NBA days are probably over.
from all that.. they key take is on JTAs words... "make millions, hundreds of millions"
these cats are a) DELUSIONAL and b) they care more about the money and the lifestyle than the game itself.
thats why the NBA has become an empty shell of what it used to be.
players want the easy way to success, shortcuts, and the max contract as fast as possible.
nba still has the best basketball players in the world by far and it’s not close
Basketball is at the end of the day a job and a means to provide for your family.
@@milesmoralescousin Only because of the funding. If it had less money, best players would play somewhere else. It's not what it used to be. 20+ years ago we would wait after midnight to watch NBA games because of the love of the sport. At first you called it a sport, then it was entertainment, now it's a business. The passion is out of the NBA.
@@milangrujicic4679 the nba has always been a business, sorry you just leading the truth after 20 years
@@RachelCooper-z2h provide for families and baby mamas. Average black NBA players are not family men like Bron or Curry. Most of them are thugs, and snow bunnies go for them because of money, thats why. America, ladies and gentleman.
Whatever is entertaining and competitive will get me to watch it.
No love for the sport. Show me the money mentality for Toscano.
Lol, like he'll ever get there.
@@DimShamrock He was on the warriors in his rookie year, and then Lakers but never really showed anyone why he deserved to be in the league in the first place. But ofc now he thinks he is an nba player and makes these type of speeches because he thinks he belongs somewhere else instead of G-League and losing to european teams :D
@@MrSheduur When you're saying he "was" on the warriors, you mean like he used to carry everyone's bags right?
I mean he got paid. But you can't call that an NBA player.
American sport: Money
Europe: Passion
Hey! Put some respect on Unicaja's name! (Great video btw, love to see videos from this perspective instead of glorifying g league and nba basketball)
Unicaja finsihed first in the ACB last year (before Real Madrid). They're not that "average".
Top teams save energy in national leagues. Sothat they can step up in the Euroleague. Then they step up in the play offs.
@@soik1401 Yeah, I guess the Barça, Valencia and Baskonia teams saved too much energy in the ACB
in the regular season. After the playoffs and in the final standings they were 3rd. But third in arguably the best national/regional league with the most Euroleague teams and better then 3 Euroleague teams (Barcelona, Baskonia & Valencia Basket)
@@mysteral Didn't you lose to Murcia in the Semis dude?
I mean congratulations are in order, but calm down. You are not what you think you are.
@@soik1401so did you want to say they are not the average, they are one of the best teams like panatha, oly, real, monaco, fener, macabi, barca, partizan, efes? If yes, u r crazy:)
They are not even among teams like zvezda, bayern, milan, zalgiris, valencia or baskonia...
But I believe they are in the shelf like alba, asvel, paris, gran canaria, juventut, tenerife - the average ones
I was going to make a comment about the superiority of club style systems, but now I'm thinking more about how it was an ad hoc team vs. a team that has been together and run plays together and has practiced together a lot with specific goals in mind.
Average team? They were top1 in regular season in ACB lol. Actually not only been, but they end regular season as top1 in ACB.
euroleague is supposed to be the best in europe, this team isnt even close in the level of euroleague
In Regular Season. Right.
In the Playoffs, what happened?
@@xrhstoscbp0774 It`s enough close to low end of EL teams.
@@DimShamrockThey got dismantled by the hitmen a.k.a UCAM Murcia
@@xrhstoscbp0774I do believe an all-Euroleague team would have played even better
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Let's see Juan Toscano's stats from this game:
FG 3/11 (27,3%)
2pt 2/7 (28,6%)
3pt 1/4 (25%)
+/- (-13)
He did better perfomance talking loud on the bench, than on the field
Honestly no surprise. They came with 'all stars' of the league where individual streaks of execellence are valued over winning and they came to the place where winning is more valued than your own stats.
Prior note to the boxing out on rebounds: don't forget the NBA doesn't allow rebounding until the ball is out of the rim (goaltending rule) whereas FIBA does. This means FIBA players are generally more aggressive pursuing rebounds (just a mindset).
I fully agree there should be an alignment of rules. Keep NBA courts - spacing is great - but keep a lot of FIBA rules (3 second defensive violation should however exist - it leads to too much boring stuff). Most important would be some proper officiating in the NBA, especially regarding traveling , which is getting out of hand (LeBron is basically playing handball by now). Then add some of the physicality of FIBA (you'd see a lot less Anthony Edwards super posters if he's not allowed to basically use defenders as ladders) so you can enhance defending.
So and in short:
- From the NBA: courts, 3 sec def violation, transition take fouls, 24 sec shot clock, 48 min games, 6 personal fouls
- from FIBA: rebounding possible as soon as ball touches the rim, more physicality, better officiating regarding the fundamentals (dribbling, steps, etc)
These are just some ideas I'd like to see. Would love to hear/read yours (including disagreements)
FIBA also has goaltending, it just different rules
The background music with the sample of the Google Chat "message" sound is nefarious