Dickey Simpkins signed with the Bulls, shot 63% off the bench, got playoff mins for the first time and won his third ring after Warriors released him. Love that ending for him.
I was there , they forgot about when Spree took off his shirt and shorts. And said “let’s measure, let’s measure.” No one else wanted to speak up. So we all shut up. Then PJ shockingly said “Ok.” PJ pulled out something huge. And said “You gotta give me more than that.” He’s like “if that’s all you gonna give me get the F out.”. Spree said “ I’m gonna F U.” Spree grabbed him by the throat. Ordered PJ to gag on it. Then Started going to Town on him. ALL SORTS OF WILD STUFF happened after. They played skins vs skins that night by Lake Merritt.
Dude predicted exactly what would happen when they stood up for and behind Latrell Spreewell. What I thought was cool was how he warned the younger players to stay back. Good looking out for the younger players and Spreewell 👍.
absolutely agree. Latrell Sprewell lost approximately $6.4 million in salary due to his suspension during the 1997-1998 NBA season. when you physically assault someone, there are consequences.
Actually it’s sad…dude lost millions others were traded others were blackballed is what I got from this story. Bt hey it’s the American 🇺🇸 way I guess 🦅
@@Lamar4mvpSprewell did nothing wrong PJ was disrespectful talking to another Grown Man like that period and of course the media made the black man the villain
@@darnellwilliams8783how about the thieves on nike,jewelry and apple store. I'm sure no one provoked them. Stop making statements that all black people are good and innocent. All race can be good or evil.
Thanks for clearing up the Latrell Sprewell story for a old guy and life long warriors fan, those were hard days for us for many reasons but something I missed hearing after that was “Spree from 3”! Thanks my dudes!
@@Hrdwy it was more than that they played a significant amount of time with each other,they had a good squad but they wasn't going anywhere it was more of individual play than as a team,even if Hardaway didnt get hurt they still wouldnt have really went anywhere,they was one of those teams with talent but wasnt going to get too far!;?!
@@HardworkMook I disagree because Tim Hardaway was the point guard so usually a good orchestrator like him we keep everybody balanced they was scorers not selfish players so him healthy at point would have helped them blossom keep in mind Webber and Sprewell were very young back then
I was a huge Knicks fan as a kid and loved when Sprewell came to the Knicks. I did not like that certain sportscasters and reporters would never let the incident go. While Carlisimo went on to play victim and became a tv analyst.
You can imagine how PJ felt the night this happened. Can't think of anything more humbling than getting choked out cuz you was talkin outta pocket to somebody. This clip needs to go viral. Its gold
@BigCheefaDaOG no he actually didn't it wasn't his company. It was a sponsorship deal he lost 97 mill, he makes about 150k year now as a nyk representative
PJ did a complete 180 coaching style after that ordeal. Remember there were free agents that didn’t want to play for GS while he was head coach and some even veto trades.
As a longtime Warriors fan, I remember this being the very dark days where it seemed like everything would go wrong. A few years before this incident they had Hardaway, Sprewell, Mullin and Webber, NBA contenders and it all fell apart within a few weeks with Webber getting traded and everybody else getting injured. I had read about this incident so I figured there had to be some sort of build up before a player does that to a coach. While it's wrong, a coach has to earn the respect of the team and apparently that wasn't the case here.
What's crazy is the same day I was in college and was about to get at my college coach. Words were exchanged, suspension handed out, but with the support of my team, the college community and my accountability plus an apology to my team and the coach we were able to reconcile.
Love hearing BShaw telling the Truth about this story. I was living in Golden State at the time, and attended many games. As a fan and local resident,Carlesimo's abrasive vibes never resonated with anyone, and you could feel the tension building on the run up to Spree checking him. I have never seen a strong display of Unity shown by the players in NBA history. B mentioned what Robert Horry did,..Strong. I won't tell the story about Spree's whip, but I hope that Podcast P can get Spree on to elaborate. His whip made the Batmobile look like a Pinto !!! Miss you BShaw.
For years I've always heard that PJ yelled out you can't cut the mustard towards Spree and that's when Spree got triggered and went off on him, after all these years I finally get to hear what really went down SMH LOL
PJ deserved that shit. HE was warned and asked to leave spree alone. He pushed one more time and got them hands. When the players don't jump in right away, then knew he deserved that shit
I used to play basketball with someone who played at Seton when PJ was the coach. He flatly told me that he wasn't surprised when Sprewell choked him out cuz he used to talk to his players at Seton crazy
I remember when Seton Hall made they final four run. I was watching a game and the CBS announcer at the time Bill Raftery said PJ need to stop hollering at his players
A grown man assaulting his boss at work cause his boss yelled at him and hurt his ego? Sounds like a total villain with the emotional maturity of a child. A guy being mean to him at work, so he attacked him physically? Yea, 100% in the wrong and any consequences that resulted where of his own making and ONLY his fault. Unfortunately, accountability and personal responsibility no longer exist today, so it may be hard for younger people to understand.
@ZDiddy7777 The thing about being a grown man is setting boundaries and not tolerating disrespect. He dealt with it how he saw fit, lived with the consequences, and finished his career on a high note. Nobody gives a damn what you think, btw.
@@ZDiddy7777he’s not the boss and you’re literally bothering a guy consistently because you don’t like him , coach was looking for that. Spree was a bigger asset to the team than the coach . Legit took the Knicks to the finals two seasons later
It’s like the Bill Burr standup when he said “I wonder what she did”. There’s always context that leads to an event and the choke didn’t just manifest itself out of nowhere. What PJ did would be constituted as creating a hostile workplace environment and lead to termination in any other workplace.
Excellent point. As Shaw said, Carlesimo brought that Bobby Knight college BS to the NBA. A white man talking to grown Black men like they were slaves led to the choke out.
"Regardless of rain or snow, sleet or hail / I kick street tales, choking 🥷 like I'm Sprewell / Golden State, holding your fate in the palm of my hand / Blow you away like it's a part of the plan" - Nature
When Sprewell played for the Warriors he was renting a house right across the street from my sisters old boyfriend. I interacted with him maybe 2/3 times and he wasn't friendly at all tbh. His dad was staying with him at those times and his dad was the exact opposite a really friendly man.
As a long time Knicks fan Spree helped us get to the finals off the bench! Even though we didnt win he played hard for us! I still have my knicks spree jersey!!
Great to hear the details finally, but we knew the deal when it happened. Even Rod Strickland, who played under PJ previously made the comment, “…and y’all thought it was just me.”
Latrell Sprewell was one of my favorite players when he was wit the Twolves. Him, San Cassell & KG was my first basketball team I actually watched play
@@Salhd10they wasn’t losing cause spreewell they was losing cause they was trash..u see Steve Kerr yelling at klay and Wiggins and them? U see pop yelling at his team? U seen Phil yelling at Kobe? Or even pau? Or arrest? U seen smiths yelling at arrest and Jackson? Nah mf atfu
That’s why I’ve ALWAYS said. There is always more to the story than what any organization or media puts out. Pump your brakes on jumping to conclusions especially on day one.
Which is why as a die hard born n raised in Oaktown Warriors fan, to this day, PROUDLY sport my SPREWELL jersey. I wore it to the victory parade in Oakland in ‘15 and ‘17 and while screaming for the team during the parade in the front row of the barricades, Adonal Foyle literally stopped his parade car, walked over to me and said “I love your jersey man”. Always a SPREE fan!!!
As someone that worked in college sports…the head coach in college is damn near a God…but in the pros, you are damn near coworkers. You are leading these men but you cannot disrespect them.
@@bjnt922cuz he respects hard work and discipline. He see nothing outside the lines of work ethic. I tend to respect those who keep business business and we don't know much about them personally
Warriors Sprewell was on track for greatness man. Dude was my favorite player in the league back then. I have legit hate in my heart for PJ to this day. This just reaffirms all that.
He was still great on the Knicks, and this incident actually helped his legacy because now there are young fans who weren't even alive in '97 who know about him. If he had never choked out P.J. Carlesimo, he'd be as memorable as Mitch Richmond.
This was about a year or two before I became a Warriors fan, I was 7 at the time but I always heard about this and it is nice to finally get the full breakdown.
@@getmoneychill6462 negative that man knew what he was doing. Authority doesn’t allow you to disrespect your players repeatedly. He told him to fine him, told him to not bother him. Those re GROWN men with parents, families, and people that love, respect and adore them. If players can fight players he did what he deemed necessary. He’s probably living a better life than you nd me both.
Thanks, Brian for this awesome story. We Dubs fans had lots of unanswered questions. We always loved Spree and never trusted PJ. This clears up a lot of shit.
Yep allowing refs to turn first class seats in for a refund then flying coach,fixing games,targeting players,and disallowing legitimate trades so others could prosper
Yep. The league was definitely different back then. Players were damn near treated like slaves for real. Gag orders, blacked balled, cut, and traded for standing together and speaking out.
This is legit the first time I'm hearing this story from a player who was actually there. For years we only got the version the Warriors organization put out that painted Sprewell as a thug but I always knew better. I never rocked with Carlesimo, he didn't know how to talk to grown men without being disrespecful. I was so happy when the Knicks got Sprewell, he was a dawg.
@@catastrophecookies6066 He was a headcase....read up on this actual incident. Shaw oddly leaves out the fact that after the initial choking, Sprewell went to the showers and then went and found PJ and came out of nowhere attacking him again. He'd also been in notable fights with teammates before this incident, including one with Jerome Kersey where after the fight he came back with a two-by-four like he was Hacksaw Jim Duggan or something. Dude has had multiple legal issues since his playing days as well.
Let this be a lesson… just because someone can/will go to jail, doesn’t save you from getting your ass hurt or even killed. Watch how you talk to people.
I live in San Antonio and used to be a chef at a restaurant PJ use to frequent. I can confirm he is an a**hole. He treated the servers like shit and didnt tip for shit. He brought in a whole 15 top of college kids. Got the meal free from the owner and still left a shitty tip.
@@Marc-n5e PJ absolutely provoked Sprewell. Sprewell shouldn't have choked him but being the head coach doesn't mean you can be an asshole with impunity. Do you just simp for the coach each time? Do you think Bobby Knight (Lucifer rest his soul🙏) was a thug for choking his players, and then lying about? Or was that different somehow?
That went beyond coaching and spilled into challenging one's manhood. Was it wrong to attack him physically? Yes, but PJ provoked the situation all the way
9 year old me had some pretty good intuition. My first thought was 'I wonder what his coach did to deserve that. That doesn't seem like something a person would just do.'
100%. My first thought was "Damn that's crazy but there's got to be some reason why someone would just randomly choke their coach" Can't remember if sprewell was too or just showed up some but Horry and other basketball and football players were my student gym teachers in elementary school i.e. easy credits to hang out with kids so even as a Tennessee fan always followed those dudes in the league
I’ve been watching the NBA since 1986…this was equally as hilarious as it was sad. I remember when this went down as an NBA fan, and a high school basketball player in the late 1990’s…I always suspected this had something to do with someone in a polo shirt talking to someone in a tank top, as if the type of shirt determines absolute power…when in reality, it only holds contextual or illusionary power. Thanks for the clarity B-Shaw
No beef, he was pissed because he was starting and coach told him he was going to have to come off the bench when another player came back. I was just in the way that day.
When Sprewell was on and mentally into the game, it was poetry. I've never seen aggression meet finesse like that.. then and now. And he was a legitimate 2 way player. Legitimate, expend bulk energy on the best perimeter player then go and do some damage on offense. Fastest guy in the League. Dialed-in, prime '93, bald head, 1st Team Sprewell was on another level. What makes me lose my mind: Tim Hardaway recently said Sprewell never practiced in the off-season. He only worked during the season and then disappeared back home. He was a natural at this game.
@@keithmurray3827 To this day I still don't how this happens. The man made 1st team all NBA and 2nd team all defense. Scouting on him was make him dribble left. One of the most interesting players ever to pass through.
I went to Alabama and loved how hard he played in college. I took a lot of heat when this went down because I warned folks that it's possible for both parties to be guilty of wrong-doing, and I've only heard one apology. Glad to hear this insider tell the other side!
Them 90s OGs built different. Not scared of anything, that's how to played and approached the game. Reason why they played more defense and not scared of the physicality
Power Dynamic at work 1. Incompetent coaching 2. Gag order on players 3. Corporation PR spin 4. Media spin 5. Trade players Instead of removing coach they trade the veteran players.
OK I just listened and it's pretty much exactly what everyone thought. Sprewell had anger management problems and couldn't take the coach getting tough to get more out of him. I don't know how Brian Shaw can sit there and pretend the coach didn't have a reason to ride these guys HARD when the Warriors were one of the WORST teams in the league. And I notice Shaw doesn't mention Sprewell showing up to a home game LATE and trying to check himself in. I'm actually impressed that Carlesimo didn't back down from trying to turn this group of losers into a winning basketball team. Imagine for one second, if rather than fight against these efforts like a snotty spoiled rich brat, Sprewell had risen to the challenge and become the centerpiece of a winning franchise. They might have retired his number and raised it to the rafters with the other greats. Instead, he is forever known as an underachieving malcontent. I guess we should at least be happy that playing in the NBA kept him out of prison which is probably where he was headed.
This was a great synopsis of this situation. I knew about PJ being verbally coarse wih the players, but it is good to really find out the build-up to the incident and the fallout.
Interesting, a few years later , former NBA player and Bulls GM John paxson , was mad at bulls coach Vinny Del negro , came to a practice and choked the coach , the NBA kept this quiet and nothing was done to Paxson. Quite a double standard.
Great episode. First Time I’m hearing the full story. I was 12/13 when that happened. Don’t condone violence but the solidarity of the players says everything.
This is great, I am a die hard warriors fan, and Latrell was my favorite player. When that came out I was distraught. It’s nice to hear the full story.
Dickey Simpkins signed with the Bulls, shot 63% off the bench, got playoff mins for the first time and won his third ring after Warriors released him. Love that ending for him.
Nice
Forgot about him
And he averaged 3.7 points that year
and Got 3 rings and played with the GOAT... @@JamesHall415
No one cares about the bulls stiffs (9-12) in the rotation
This really is the first time I've heard a full breakdown of this story 😂
Me too 😂
Same. Wow! Thank God for podcasts like these
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Only time I’ve heard the question asked lol
I was there , they forgot about when Spree took off his shirt and shorts. And said “let’s measure, let’s measure.” No one else wanted to speak up. So we all shut up. Then PJ shockingly said “Ok.” PJ pulled out something huge. And said “You gotta give me more than that.” He’s like “if that’s all you gonna give me get the F out.”. Spree said “ I’m gonna F U.” Spree grabbed him by the throat. Ordered PJ to gag on it. Then Started going to Town on him.
ALL SORTS OF WILD STUFF happened after. They played skins vs skins that night by Lake Merritt.
"you got traded too?"
"nah they CUT me" lmaooo
It worked out for Dickey. He went back to the Bulls that season and won his 3rd title
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@@ricosauve5wow...
That was funny ✂️
Dude predicted exactly what would happen when they stood up for and behind Latrell Spreewell. What I thought was cool was how he warned the younger players to stay back. Good looking out for the younger players and Spreewell 👍.
The original “Fu@k around and find out”moment in NBA history 😂😂
absolutely agree. Latrell Sprewell lost approximately $6.4 million in salary due to his suspension during the 1997-1998 NBA season. when you physically assault someone, there are consequences.
Story mode is the best thing to happen in the world of player podcasts. Hearing these stories is entertainment on end. Please keep featuring the OG’s!
Actually it’s sad…dude lost millions others were traded others were blackballed is what I got from this story. Bt hey it’s the American 🇺🇸 way I guess 🦅
this is why espn is crap...they want to focus on woke nonsense and tell us how great they are
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@@dmccartysr986that’s life lmao
MORE IMPORTANTLY TO LEARN THE INSIDE TRUTH.
We need a 30 for 30 on this story. And the aftermath for each player that stood up. This would not fly in today’s era.
You’re absolutely right it wouldn’t. A player now would be banished from the league. As they should be..
@@Lamar4mvpSprewell did nothing wrong PJ was disrespectful talking to another Grown Man like that period and of course the media made the black man the villain
Exactly how the NBA molded Jordan into the phony goat of cuz the 89’a whipped his ahhh, nba gave Jordan All his DPOYS😊
@@darnellwilliams8783how about the thieves on nike,jewelry and apple store. I'm sure no one provoked them. Stop making statements that all black people are good and innocent. All race can be good or evil.
@@dustinmosbrucker1347 Phony post
Thanks for clearing up the Latrell Sprewell story for a old guy and life long warriors fan, those were hard days for us for many reasons but something I missed hearing after that was “Spree from 3”! Thanks my dudes!
Man, '94 Warriors Sprewell, C Webb, Tim Hardaway, Chris Mullen, was The Truth
They had a nice line up but didn't go nowhere or do anything!?!
That's because Tim Hardaway tore his knee. But they still made it to the playoffs
@@Hrdwy it was more than that they played a significant amount of time with each other,they had a good squad but they wasn't going anywhere it was more of individual play than as a team,even if Hardaway didnt get hurt they still wouldnt have really went anywhere,they was one of those teams with talent but wasnt going to get too far!;?!
@@HardworkMook I disagree because Tim Hardaway was the point guard so usually a good orchestrator like him we keep everybody balanced they was scorers not selfish players so him healthy at point would have helped them blossom keep in mind Webber and Sprewell were very young back then
I think Webber was already gone they had Joe Smith
The rumor back in the day was that he said to “put some mustard on that pass!” Lol
I was a huge Knicks fan as a kid and loved when Sprewell came to the Knicks. I did not like that certain sportscasters and reporters would never let the incident go. While Carlisimo went on to play victim and became a tv analyst.
You must carry around a tiny violin everywhere you go.
Joe Smith talked about it on DJ Vlad
Same
I thought PJ took some blame from what I heard.
same, man. I was gonna say that as a Knicks fan i want to thank PJ for sending us Sprewell! one of my favorite Knick players
25 years and we finally get some insight into what went down, salute to B-Shaw and those other guys for being real ones and standing with Spree!
You can imagine how PJ felt the night this happened. Can't think of anything more humbling than getting choked out cuz you was talkin outta pocket to somebody. This clip needs to go viral. Its gold
Yes. Now I know why Spree went broke 😂
could be lying
@@mykedynomite he came up off them rims
@BigCheefaDaOG no he actually didn't it wasn't his company. It was a sponsorship deal he lost 97 mill, he makes about 150k year now as a nyk representative
I worked for ESPN back in the day, 1 night after a game, I bumped into B Shaw at a bar. We had this near exact conversation that night.
what u up to these days
He typed that from a bar@@HEAT4YOAZZ
im GM of the Lakers fam @@HEAT4YOAZZ
It's so wild how certain type of people go out of their way to control the narrative and lie by omission
Username says cap😂
I respect these brothers standing up for they brother... That's how we all need to be...
Shaw may not condone what Spree did, but I do after hearing what happened. Props to Shaw and the other players who rode with Spree.
PJ did a complete 180 coaching style after that ordeal. Remember there were free agents that didn’t want to play for GS while he was head coach and some even veto trades.
Randolph Childress.. was the one of the Green Light dudes! Carlisemo detailed his career at Portland. Bum coach
@@ddave7026I agree lol
Lol no he didn't. Theres a reason he was HATED in Brooklyn
That's the last time he told anyone to put some f---ing mustard on his passes.
Robert Horry is solid for backing him up.
both Alabama alum. good stuff
He's a punk like u
Real N...
Comes through at clutch moments DNA
Spree for Three
Brian Shaw...didn't expect I would sit back and just listen to him. Good speaker.
You're definitely a white guy. I've heard this so many times from your kind about black men.
Y not? He's been around forever
@@DubbyDubois Doesn't mean he would be intereesting to listen too lol
As a longtime Warriors fan, I remember this being the very dark days where it seemed like everything would go wrong. A few years before this incident they had Hardaway, Sprewell, Mullin and Webber, NBA contenders and it all fell apart within a few weeks with Webber getting traded and everybody else getting injured.
I had read about this incident so I figured there had to be some sort of build up before a player does that to a coach. While it's wrong, a coach has to earn the respect of the team and apparently that wasn't the case here.
Great storytelling from Brian Shaw.
This definitely prompts to check other segments.
Thanks for this feature (not to mention algorithm).
Man you gotta love today's platforms where you can hear classic stories like this
Thanks for posting this. I've never heard the actual story before. Nuance can add much more to even long-held opinions, lol. Thanks again.
Can always tell when someone is being honest and straight about something. Body language, speech. He wasn’t trying to twist the story or anything.
Always is cap
I had the same reaction and thought from him telling the story.
@@twizzy585ots right 😂
Yes. Except for the wu quote "you don't want to F with a soldier"....lol
What's crazy is the same day I was in college and was about to get at my college coach. Words were exchanged, suspension handed out, but with the support of my team, the college community and my accountability plus an apology to my team and the coach we were able to reconcile.
Love hearing BShaw telling the Truth about this story. I was living in Golden State at the time, and attended many games. As a fan and local resident,Carlesimo's abrasive vibes never resonated with anyone, and you could feel the tension building on the run up to Spree checking him. I have never seen a strong display of Unity shown by the players in NBA history. B mentioned what Robert Horry did,..Strong. I won't tell the story about Spree's whip, but I hope that Podcast P can get Spree on to elaborate. His whip made the Batmobile look like a Pinto !!! Miss you BShaw.
For years I've always heard that PJ yelled out you can't cut the mustard towards Spree and that's when Spree got triggered and went off on him, after all these years I finally get to hear what really went down SMH LOL
Close, it was "put some mustard on it", which was White people talk for "throw it harder (the pass). Media is full of shit, but I already knew that.
Those are clearly fighting words.
Dude well spoken know how to tell a story dawg. No bullshit.
2:42 "he used to listen to Wu Tang all the time. . ." Yeah. . . Protect Ya Neck . . .😂🤣
Haha good one 😂
Bahahahaha!!
Underrated comment.
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I met B-Shaw in a bar in Oakland. We sat side-by-side at the bar and he told me the story that night.
Gratitude for sharing
I had the Sprewell Converse Acropolis.
Fam was nice on the court. He was the franchise.
This shows how media destroyed spee, not taking his side of the story
Oh please. The guy was a violent thug. He had several violent run ins. Don't try to rewrite history
Media destroyed a lot of players smh
Oh please. He was a violent thug.
I'm pretty sure choking his coach destroyed his career
PJ deserved that shit. HE was warned and asked to leave spree alone. He pushed one more time and got them hands. When the players don't jump in right away, then knew he deserved that shit
“I’m Latrell Sprewell I’ll choke the coach” -Lil B
“I choke the coach out like I’m sprewell!”
I don’t remember that bar 😂
That hoop life mixtape he had was fye lol
TYBG
😂😂 classic
I used to play basketball with someone who played at Seton when PJ was the coach. He flatly told me that he wasn't surprised when Sprewell choked him out cuz he used to talk to his players at Seton crazy
I remember when Seton Hall made they final four run. I was watching a game and the CBS announcer at the time Bill Raftery said PJ need to stop hollering at his players
I know when Dan Hurley played for him it sounded like he had a real hard time.
Did he choke his players too? Just wondering.
The NBA really made Sprewell out to be a villain after that.
A grown man assaulting his boss at work cause his boss yelled at him and hurt his ego? Sounds like a total villain with the emotional maturity of a child. A guy being mean to him at work, so he attacked him physically? Yea, 100% in the wrong and any consequences that resulted where of his own making and ONLY his fault. Unfortunately, accountability and personal responsibility no longer exist today, so it may be hard for younger people to understand.
@ZDiddy7777 The thing about being a grown man is setting boundaries and not tolerating disrespect. He dealt with it how he saw fit, lived with the consequences, and finished his career on a high note. Nobody gives a damn what you think, btw.
@@ZDiddy7777he’s not the boss and you’re literally bothering a guy consistently because you don’t like him , coach was looking for that. Spree was a bigger asset to the team than the coach . Legit took the Knicks to the finals two seasons later
@@ZDiddy7777No u talk to people like a man and a professional not like a damn child. Boss or no boss💯
@@shawnhubbard7056 Emotionally fragile much? You're an infant
Its good to listen to such an intelligent guy like Brian Shaw
It’s like the Bill Burr standup when he said “I wonder what she did”. There’s always context that leads to an event and the choke didn’t just manifest itself out of nowhere. What PJ did would be constituted as creating a hostile workplace environment and lead to termination in any other workplace.
Plus retaliation to the players for sticking by Sprewell's side
Excellent point. As Shaw said, Carlesimo brought that Bobby Knight college BS to the NBA. A white man talking to grown Black men like they were slaves led to the choke out.
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26 years later.
“Here’s an oily rag!”
That was dave chappelle
I cant believe it took me all this time to finally hear the full breakdown of the story! Thanks Brian!
"Regardless of rain or snow, sleet or hail / I kick street tales, choking 🥷 like I'm Sprewell / Golden State, holding your fate in the palm of my hand / Blow you away like it's a part of the plan" - Nature
I gotta call it like I see it !!!!
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“Banned from TV”
Classic line from Nature “Banned from T.V. off the N.O.R.E. album ‘98!!!!
@@DaPrognosisone of the hardest tracks ever straight bars from everyone.
One of the greatest opening bars ever.
When Sprewell played for the Warriors he was renting a house right across the street from my sisters old boyfriend. I interacted with him maybe 2/3 times and he wasn't friendly at all tbh. His dad was staying with him at those times and his dad was the exact opposite a really friendly man.
Thanks guys great info from the father side of coach and supporting our children
As a long time Knicks fan Spree helped us get to the finals off the bench! Even though we didnt win he played hard for us! I still have my knicks spree jersey!!
what year? Sprewell was almost always a starter
Lifelong Knicks fan here, I own 2 Knicks jerseys. A Blue Sprewell & a white Oakley jersey. If I could only find an affordable John Starks Jersey
@@junebugboy5074 99
Bench? Wasn’t he a starter?
Good stuff! I still sport my Spree Warriors jersey!
Great to hear the details finally, but we knew the deal when it happened. Even Rod Strickland, who played under PJ previously made the comment, “…and y’all thought it was just me.”
Damn Brian Shaw is like the Forrest Gump of the NBA. He was around every great player and wild moments.
He played everywhere
Brian dated Madonna.
Latrell Sprewell was one of my favorite players when he was wit the Twolves. Him, San Cassell & KG was my first basketball team I actually watched play
Great story telling by Shaw. Inside basketball, much appreciated.
It's pretty obvious PJ was provoking Sprewell and the Anger switch got triggered
Doesn’t matter as black men we need to learn to control our anger
Provoking ?? Mf he’s the head coach , gee trynna have the team give more effort , they were losing.
@@mranderson8725 “as black” 😑
@@flodgingright tf lol we ain't the only ones losing our cool, white boys shooting up schools every week. Stop generalizing
@@Salhd10they wasn’t losing cause spreewell they was losing cause they was trash..u see Steve Kerr yelling at klay and Wiggins and them? U see pop yelling at his team? U seen Phil yelling at Kobe? Or even pau? Or arrest? U seen smiths yelling at arrest and Jackson? Nah mf atfu
B Shaw is the guy! Knew him since I was a kid. He used to be real cool with Reggie Lewis back in the day
He seems like an awesome dude
Ray lewis?
Reggie Bush?
Cap
RIP
We knew it! I say we cause anybody that really hoops ain’t gone choke they coach unless he was being disrespectful and overbearing
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😂 got a point
Exactly 🎯 🎯🎯💯💯💯
That’s why I’ve ALWAYS said. There is always more to the story than what any organization or media puts out. Pump your brakes on jumping to conclusions especially on day one.
After that run-in with Spree, Carlisimo head Still spinnin 😂
Which is why as a die hard born n raised in Oaktown Warriors fan, to this day, PROUDLY sport my SPREWELL jersey. I wore it to the victory parade in Oakland in ‘15 and ‘17 and while screaming for the team during the parade in the front row of the barricades, Adonal Foyle literally stopped his parade car, walked over to me and said “I love your jersey man”.
Always a SPREE fan!!!
THERE YA GO!!! At least you know who the real ones are! ❤ Some of us weren't put on this planet for the BS!
@@PistachiosPurses u know it bro!!👍
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As someone that worked in college sports…the head coach in college is damn near a God…but in the pros, you are damn near coworkers. You are leading these men but you cannot disrespect them.
Even Pop who’s know to be a hard nosed, no nonsense coach understands this.
@@bjnt922cuz he respects hard work and discipline. He see nothing outside the lines of work ethic. I tend to respect those who keep business business and we don't know much about them personally
As a starter small-forward, but he was undersized (6'4).
Alan Houston played shooting-guard, but switched with Spree on defense.
Warriors Sprewell was on track for greatness man. Dude was my favorite player in the league back then. I have legit hate in my heart for PJ to this day. This just reaffirms all that.
Not too bright, are ya? I'm guessing you're not white either! lmao
He was still great on the Knicks, and this incident actually helped his legacy because now there are young fans who weren't even alive in '97 who know about him. If he had never choked out P.J. Carlesimo, he'd be as memorable as Mitch Richmond.
Neither Sprewell or Carlismo know you exist, and you're over there caring about their argument between two emotional men 😂
This was about a year or two before I became a Warriors fan, I was 7 at the time but I always heard about this and it is nice to finally get the full breakdown.
“He was like a crazed animal at the time He was kicking the assistants when trying to break it up” 😂😂😂😂
Cuz stood on business 😂😂😂
Nah that was pretty stupid.Spree lost millions because he couldn’t control his emotions
@@getmoneychill6462 true but no amount of money is worth more than self respect.
@@getmoneychill6462 true but no amount of money is worth more than self respect
Cuz acted the part.
@@getmoneychill6462 negative that man knew what he was doing. Authority doesn’t allow you to disrespect your players repeatedly. He told him to fine him, told him to not bother him. Those re GROWN men with parents, families, and people that love, respect and adore them. If players can fight players he did what he deemed necessary. He’s probably living a better life than you nd me both.
I didn't realize that trades and a cut happened behind that. They gave the warning to the younger guys though. They knew it was comin'.
Listening 2 Wu-Tang to later play 4 NY had 2 be dope lol
Thanks, Brian for this awesome story. We Dubs fans had lots of unanswered questions. We always loved Spree and never trusted PJ. This clears up a lot of shit.
Great interview
Remember that was still David Sterns NBA. It was his way or the highway
As the refs and owners were running wild!
Yep allowing refs to turn first class seats in for a refund then flying coach,fixing games,targeting players,and disallowing legitimate trades so others could prosper
Yep. The league was definitely different back then. Players were damn near treated like slaves for real. Gag orders, blacked balled, cut, and traded for standing together and speaking out.
@@anthonyjones634 and now the NBA is a complete trash product and damn near unwatchable. There absolutely has to be order and hierarchy.
Brian Shaw is real af
We loved him when he was assistant with the Pacers. It was nice to see him and Paul interact outside of that.
This is legit the first time I'm hearing this story from a player who was actually there. For years we only got the version the Warriors organization put out that painted Sprewell as a thug but I always knew better. I never rocked with Carlesimo, he didn't know how to talk to grown men without being disrespecful. I was so happy when the Knicks got Sprewell, he was a dawg.
He “⚫️” that’s why
I actually always thought Sprewell was a headcase(I was a kid when this happened)- crazy what a narrative can do 😅
@@catastrophecookies6066 He was a headcase....read up on this actual incident. Shaw oddly leaves out the fact that after the initial choking, Sprewell went to the showers and then went and found PJ and came out of nowhere attacking him again. He'd also been in notable fights with teammates before this incident, including one with Jerome Kersey where after the fight he came back with a two-by-four like he was Hacksaw Jim Duggan or something. Dude has had multiple legal issues since his playing days as well.
@@catastrophecookies6066 My brother in Christ, he choked his coach. He *is* a headcase.
No surprises that the white establishment would side with the coach and paint Sprewell as the villain.
3:45 The comedic timing here is gold 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Let this be a lesson… just because someone can/will go to jail, doesn’t save you from getting your ass hurt or even killed. Watch how you talk to people.
I don’t know any Wu-Tang songs that go; “you don’t wanna fuck with a soldier.” Sounds like No Limit to me.
I was thinking the same. Just the word " SOLDIER" alone is not Wu vocab.
He was probably thinking about Wu Tang ain't nothing to f with...
It was no limit shaw is just older wu tang and no limit is the same thing to him
@@ehuntthen he’s suffering from dementia
Seeing Joe Smith at the airport “you got traded too?”
😂 “Nah they cut me” 💀
Dickey Simpkins got cut...not Joe Smith, tf you talkin bout?
You clearly didn't listen well enough because that ain't even what b-shaw said fam
@@jaycurry5593😂😂
I live in San Antonio and used to be a chef at a restaurant PJ use to frequent. I can confirm he is an a**hole. He treated the servers like shit and didnt tip for shit. He brought in a whole 15 top of college kids. Got the meal free from the owner and still left a shitty tip.
I heard PJ told SPREE: “ put a little mustard on it” referring to a pass.
THANK you!
So pretty much PJ provoked Latrell? Got it!
Whatever you thugs wanna believe
@@Marc-n5e PJ absolutely provoked Sprewell. Sprewell shouldn't have choked him but being the head coach doesn't mean you can be an asshole with impunity.
Do you just simp for the coach each time? Do you think Bobby Knight (Lucifer rest his soul🙏) was a thug for choking his players, and then lying about? Or was that different somehow?
@@bjensenYou shut that anonymous racist right up
@@Marc-n5e I guess tht means P.J. goofy a$$ a thug too for provoking Sprewell u 🤡
@@Marc-n5e You have to be a troll
I ALWAYS wanted to know more about this!
*Spree & Allan Houston🔥🧊*
*Fire & Ice*
I remember reading that the comment P. J. Carlesimo made to Sprewell before he got choked was, "Put a little more mustard on it!"
Great stuff by Brian Shaw.
That went beyond coaching and spilled into challenging one's manhood. Was it wrong to attack him physically? Yes, but PJ provoked the situation all the way
A person who is that easily provoked has no place in a civil society
What exactly did he say, did he talk about his mother even? Give me a break. He was coaching him hard that is all
@@johnnguyen6469coaching hard is different from cursing the dude out disrespecting him. Huge difference between the two
tell me why carlesimo went after sprewell the most, why not everybody else?@@johnnguyen6469
@johnnguyen6469 a person who tries to provoke another doesn't belong in a civilized society. Wanna play victim...smfh
9 year old me had some pretty good intuition. My first thought was 'I wonder what his coach did to deserve that. That doesn't seem like something a person would just do.'
100%. My first thought was "Damn that's crazy but there's got to be some reason why someone would just randomly choke their coach"
Can't remember if sprewell was too or just showed up some but Horry and other basketball and football players were my student gym teachers in elementary school i.e. easy credits to hang out with kids so even as a Tennessee fan always followed those dudes in the league
Good to know you haven't matured since you were nine. 🙄
Great story about Spree, one of my fav players from his time with Knicks
I’ve been watching the NBA since 1986…this was equally as hilarious as it was sad. I remember when this went down as an NBA fan, and a high school basketball player in the late 1990’s…I always suspected this had something to do with someone in a polo shirt talking to someone in a tank top, as if the type of shirt determines absolute power…when in reality, it only holds contextual or illusionary power. Thanks for the clarity B-Shaw
Paul rocking a Paul George t-shirt is wild
Can't keep poking the bear. From the beginning, it always sounded like the whole picture wasn't being shown to the public.
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I remember when Sprewell and I got into it in practice at Golden State! He was a great guy and fierce competitor.
Like former player Byron Houston?
That is me!
@@byrondhoustonyall just batting or some kind of other beef ?
No beef, he was pissed because he was starting and coach told him he was going to have to come off the bench when another player came back. I was just in the way that day.
@ but you have to respect for that drive and competitiveness. Scraps in practice will happen but the reasons are important
When Sprewell was on and mentally into the game, it was poetry. I've never seen aggression meet finesse like that.. then and now. And he was a legitimate 2 way player. Legitimate, expend bulk energy on the best perimeter player then go and do some damage on offense. Fastest guy in the League. Dialed-in, prime '93, bald head, 1st Team Sprewell was on another level.
What makes me lose my mind: Tim Hardaway recently said Sprewell never practiced in the off-season. He only worked during the season and then disappeared back home. He was a natural at this game.
And Sprewell didn't have a left hand and was STILL giving buckets 😂
@@keithmurray3827 To this day I still don't how this happens. The man made 1st team all NBA and 2nd team all defense. Scouting on him was make him dribble left. One of the most interesting players ever to pass through.
This was awesome insight never heard exactly what happened
I went to Alabama and loved how hard he played in college. I took a lot of heat when this went down because I warned folks that it's possible for both parties to be guilty of wrong-doing, and I've only heard one apology. Glad to hear this insider tell the other side!
6:07 Felton Spencer: RIP
PJ should've left well enough alone 😂 😂😂😂.
Golden State wasn't well enough. Sprewell was an inefficient shot chucker.
@@ufukpolat3480Carmelo Anthony & Russell Westbrick are the true definition of inefficient.
@@2H2521😂
He knew he had "WHITE" on his side.
I think PJ knows better now.
Them 90s OGs built different. Not scared of anything, that's how to played and approached the game. Reason why they played more defense and not scared of the physicality
Power Dynamic at work
1. Incompetent coaching
2. Gag order on players
3. Corporation PR spin
4. Media spin
5. Trade players
Instead of removing coach they trade the veteran players.
OK I just listened and it's pretty much exactly what everyone thought. Sprewell had anger management problems and couldn't take the coach getting tough to get more out of him. I don't know how Brian Shaw can sit there and pretend the coach didn't have a reason to ride these guys HARD when the Warriors were one of the WORST teams in the league. And I notice Shaw doesn't mention Sprewell showing up to a home game LATE and trying to check himself in.
I'm actually impressed that Carlesimo didn't back down from trying to turn this group of losers into a winning basketball team. Imagine for one second, if rather than fight against these efforts like a snotty spoiled rich brat, Sprewell had risen to the challenge and become the centerpiece of a winning franchise. They might have retired his number and raised it to the rafters with the other greats. Instead, he is forever known as an underachieving malcontent. I guess we should at least be happy that playing in the NBA kept him out of prison which is probably where he was headed.
You're an idiot. PJ was intentionally trying to provoke shit them played victim when he got what he was asking for.
99 Spreewell Knicks is the first team I ever rooted for. Great player for 2-3 years.
You do know sprewell was a 3× time All Star with Golden State warriors before the Knicks he was Arguably the 2 best SG in the Entire NBA from 93-97💥
This was a great synopsis of this situation. I knew about PJ being verbally coarse wih the players, but it is good to really find out the build-up to the incident and the fallout.
Interesting, a few years later , former NBA player and Bulls GM John paxson , was mad at bulls coach Vinny Del negro , came to a practice and choked the coach , the NBA kept this quiet and nothing was done to Paxson. Quite a double standard.
You already know the deal with that situation compared to the Spree-PJ confrontation 🙄
Yes.
Bulls GM Paxson choking Negro is a wild headline
Great episode. First Time I’m hearing the full story. I was 12/13 when that happened. Don’t condone violence but the solidarity of the players says everything.
This is great, I am a die hard warriors fan, and Latrell was my favorite player. When that came out I was distraught.
It’s nice to hear the full story.
Sounds like a good ole boys club back then…
You have his jersey and still can't spell Sprewell, lol.
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Still is
Shaw is a really good storyteller. 👍
*He was listening to "Protect your neck"*
Spree was my fav warrior growing up (spree for 3!). Crazy that after all these years I'm learning about this back story.
Really liked this.