UNRESOLVED: Corlys and Rhaenys supporting Rhaenyra
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- One aspect of season 1 of House of the Dragon that puzzled many viewers was the rapid shift in Corlys and Rhaenys’s support for Rhaenyra. Despite her numerous slights against them-having an affair with Ser Harwyn Strong, bearing illegitimate children not fathered by Laenor, and being implicated in Laenor’s murder (at least from the perspective of Corlys and Rhaenys)-they seem to forgive and support her without much hesitation. These significant betrayals should have been difficult for Corlys and Rhaenys to overlook, and yet they do. What’s worse is that the show provides weak justifications for their decision, making it feel rushed and unresolved. Therefore, in this video, I explore this perplexing plot development, delving a little deeper into it.
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It is so hard to understand how a proud self-made powerfull lord like Corlys would be so "ok" with Rhaenyra's clear bastards carrying the Velaryon name. And the suposed "heir" to Driftmark, Lucerys, not knowing shit about how to sail.
Technically with the arranged marriage Luke had, his bloodline was secure regardless.
@@RhadaGhast100 Not really, they don't give to fucks about the girls if they did, they would have made the girls hiers to driftmark following the same principle as rhaenys instead they get to be owned by the strings.
Rhaenys is also a terrible person since murdered hundreds of innocent people for no reason
and its portrayed as a girlboss moment lmao. So stupid 😂
And she's like "Rhaenyra is the only one who's shown restraint", in episode 10, when she's just massacred potentially hundreds. I guess she thinks she _also_ showed restraint when she didn't burn the Greens with Meleys 😅
Good one, Rhaenys 👏🏻
The one thing I'll take issue with is that Rhaenys killed all of those people "for no reason". If it was legitimately her _only_ option for getting out of the dragon pit with Meleys, I can understand it. She still killed those hundreds, though haha
@@made-line7627 "Rhaenyra is the only one who's shown restraint" because yaknow? the greens started killing people who wouldn't side with them?
@@KushGee I mean, Rhaenys was speaking to Corlys specifically about the "Blacks"/Black Council, not the Greens, but I get what you mean ♻️
Let's not forget how Daemon killed Corlys' brother or cousin in front of everyone and there were 0 consequences. The show really makes Corlys super goofy.
It was Vaemond’s fault that he got himself killed. Corlys even says it even the show that it was Vaemond’s ambition that got him killed. Also Vaemond spoke out of turn about Rhaenyra in front of the king so he got what was coming for him. Even earlier in the episode Rhaenys warned him earlier that the king would have his tongue for it.
@@niara2411 hur dur
@@niara2411 Daemon had no right to take Vaemonds life. The king only demanded his tongue removed, not his head.
To be fair, Daemon kills Vaemond without consequences in the book as well. In fact it's more brutal as Rhaenyra feeds him to her dragon after, then Vaemond's 5 cousins basically do the same thing and get their tongues removed by Viserys. But as in so many other instances it appears the show writers going out of their way to make the Blacks look better than in the book.
@@TheFlyingCougarit’s all black propaganda!
The simplest answer is just bad writing.
I like HotD, but it's far from perfect. F&B is a nightmare to adapt into TV and I'm glad the show is even of this quality.
They have done the best they could with the scarce information presented in the book. Honestly, it's a great show, but I have a lot of criticisms with it. This topic being one of them.
@@thecriticalmaester9702fire and blood is very dumb and far more like the scrapped outline for a history than an actual history
The show runners are sympathetic to Rhaenyra. They also probably came to the conclusion that casual watchers of the show could not digest the story outside concepts like good or bad.
Yet another reason why making the Velaryons dark-skinned and Rhaenys silver-haired were truly bad changes from book to show when put together. At least in the book there is plausible reason for them to believe the boys are their grandchildren. In the show they both know that they aren't, so this was not well-thought out if we are meant to respect their intelligence, when the motive for supporting Rhaenyra despite what I've written and you've mentioned are properly fleshed out..
Yeah, I agree. In the books, there's still plausible deniability. Which would make a line like, "History doesn't remember blood, it remembers names" make a lot more sense in that context. However, it doesn't really make sense on the show. Those kids are obviously not Velaryons and everyone who denies it is delusional.
@@thecriticalmaester9702 You don't know shit about mixed kids lmfao. They can absolutely be Velaryon's. IF corly's is actually 100% black, and not 50% like I think I read somewhere, they're 1/4th or 1/8th black. My nephew is 1/4th black and has blonde hair and blue eyes.
@@thecriticalmaester9702 Did my reply to this get deleted? Because I broke down why your wrong. I read somewhere Corlys is half black, even at 100% his grandkids would be 25% black, my nephew is 25% black with blonde hair and blue eyes, this isn't actually a point.
True true
The book is an in-universe history book written by "unreliable sources," according to the book itself. Since it's written in third person, the maesters (and mushroom) wouldn't have been privy to private conversations that they weren't there for....so they either don't speak to it....or they make up what they want.
Corly and Rhaenys know that Jace, Luc, and Joffrey aren't their grandchildren, yes. But Baela and Rhaena ARE. Daemon is there father, they seem to have much love and respect for Rhaenyra, AND they are (were) betrothed to Jace and Luc, so of course they'll side with the Blacks. That leaves Corlys and Rhaenys no other option but to side with the Blacks. I also think they side with Rhaenyra because they know that Viserys did NOT change his mind about her being his heir and House Velaryon swore fealty to her. House Velaryon's word stands.
Keep making videos. You’re not brainwashed by team black propaganda so that’s cool.
Well said.
Chances are Corlys and Rhaenys knew their son was gay and a quitter - and were therefore glad they were not exposed, but somewhat covered by Rhaenyra passing her bastards of as their lineage.
Chances are Vaemond eagerly smearing Rhaenyra and her children and exposing this plot was bad for Corlys and Rhaenys as well. So Daemon beheading him benefitted them. It's not like Vaemond tried to defend Corlys or Laenor's honour with his accusations. The opposite - he exposed him as dumb, a weakling or impotent at best. Furthering himself to replace Laenor.
Chances are Rhaenys is bitter that she wasn't allowed to be Queen back in the day. Having even Daemon against her. Being put down because of your gender is something women Connect over. This time the Greens steal her niece's Throne for the same reason. But this time Daemon is on their side... she might feel empowered through this. It might be Corlys doesn't Enjoy seeing his wife had been put down and feels with her.
Chances are the Greens will kill Off all that stood against them on Team black. There go their grandchildren their daughter Laenna has with Daemon. Who is Team black, and the rivaling queen's consort. Favouring your grandchildren's survival is a Non brainer. I mean...the chances for Team black against Team green are 50/50. Even if Greens win - They would lose. So They can just tip it to secure their grandchildren at least in Case of a win for their side of the war. They have the Mighty ships after all... to Tip their side for the win.
Chances are they believed Rhaenyra that their son's alledged murder wasn't her fault. Even though they still were upset enough at his Funeral to accuse her. Even if not...what's done is done. Laenor is already lost. All that is still left is to protect their grandkids.
I have Not watched the show or read the Books yet. But watched a lot off those Fan vids. I Hope i am well informed enough to give my 2 cents ;).
Am i the only one on team smallfolk
@@RhadaGhast100 Then you are team high septon and faith of the seven.
@@TraditionalCrusader Still better than the evil incest family with dragons LOL
I think they chose to support Rhaenyra because of Baela and Rhaena (despite the fact that Alicent offered to pass Driftmark to Baela, if I recall correctly). Twins are Velaryon's only legacy, Laena's blood, but they are also daughters of Daemon, so it wasn't actually a choice
The Seasnake did have other family; cousins, nephews and nieces. At least in the book he had a fair amount of relatives. Some of them got their tongues cut out.
Every word you said is right
I was team black as all casuals. However, upon my rewatches and entering discussions - I dispose Rheanyra and even Viserys. Delusional, entitled, stupid both of them, they Brought all horror on themselves. There is no other conclusion to a lot of their actions but pure, sheer delusion and denial of reality.
Greens are in the right, they always were. Despite what you say, it makes sense that they support blacks because their true grandchildren are Daemons and on blacks. Corlys is the best Blacks character
I guess I can understand it from the angle of Rhaenys wanting her grandchildren to marry Rhaenyra's children and possibly become queens or princesses. But to feel nothing after the death of their son and daughter??? I think I'd understand it a bit more if it turned out that Corlys and Rhaenys were lowkey plotting to sabotage Rhaenyra or to exact some sort of revenge on her somehow. Idk.
Season 2 has to make this clear to us. 🤕
Side that willingly let dead king rot in bed for a week so they can scheme and execute coup against named heir is in the right? Right :D Better be "casual" than delusional.
@@thecriticalmaester9702 Driftmark is incredibly close to Dragonstone and it's dragons
If the Velaryons tried to join the Greens or even remain neutral, it is likely Rhaenyra or her puppet master Daemon would send the dragons to attack Driftmark in retaliation.
Fear and the need to preserve all that they built might be good enough motivation for them to join Rhaenyra
I wouldn't put it past them to plot and sabotage Rhaenyra for their revenge.
However I doubt any of this might be true but it's a far better explanation than them 'admiring' Rhaenyra the spoiled brat who only did one significant thing in her life
I just can't get behind the greens, their even more unlikeable than Rheanyra's faction.
@@senorpupik320 Rhaenyra is stupid like her father. The Greens really didn't have to do much to bring her down/destroy her image, she did that on herself very well. Like OP said, what has she done to 'earn' the throne? nothing. She's done the opposite instead. When she was cornered about her children's bastardies, she didn't stay to fight back and clear that "rumor", She fled to Dragonstone bringing her husband's boyfriend with them. "As all casuals", I was team Black at beginning of Season 1 and ended up in Green at the end.
With the way season 1 is, I think the script is biased towards team Black (fingers crossed) but idk, let's see season 2 or 3. I hope that's not true. I hope this doesn't turn into just another Hollywood's girlboss moment
FACTS! Only Vaemond acted sane. Corlys and Rhaenys already had their granddaughters taken as political hostages in a way by Rhaenyra and Daemon should they defy them. Writers could've used their concern for their granddaughters' safety as a reason for Rhaenys and Corlys supporting Rhaenyra grudgingly. Instead, they just go "Oh, we know they killed our son, emotionally destroyed our daughter and passed off bastards as Velaryon heirs....but isn't it AWESOME that Rhaenyra is a woman that doesn't want war unlike MEN??" CLOWN WRITING.
Totally agree with you. I didn't like that Rhaenys simply accepted Rhaenyra as her queen just because she's an "awesome feminist boss queen". I think she should've sided with her grudgingly out of fear for her grandchildren, especially since that was Rhaenyra and Daemon's plan to begin with. The whole point of Laenor secretly leaving for Essos was to fool people into thinking that Rhaenyra was ruthless and strong. So it would've made sense for Rhaenyra to adopt a more strong-arm approach towards Corlys and Rhaenys in order to fix them by her side.
We'll see how they deal with this in season 2, though.
If I were corlys in the drifmark episode, I would plan to arrange marriage alliance between baela or rhaena to aegon so that one of them will be queen where corlys and rhaenys failed using laenor and laena. That way rhaenys can save driftwood throne from rhaenyra's bastards for her granddaughters. Otto and corlys have same ambition to get their blood on iron throne both can achieve by working together and rhaenyra will have hard time defending her sons claim when she loses velaryon's support.
Corlys and rhaenys were supposed to be cunning but show and book made them rhaenyra's simp so that they lose most of their weath after dance🥴
You're missing the fact that Alicent was already set on Aegon marrying Halaena.
@queeniryb8449 The betrothal can be slide for baela or rhaena because alicent won't lose a chance for an alliance which was basically meant for rhaenyra.
@@heartlesslove9084They are not that different from the books’ they still took similar decisions after similar troubles.
You forget that their Daemons daughters not Corlys
Regarding Corlys and Rhaenys, I think they only stayed with the Blacks because they grew attached to Jacaerys and Lucerys. When the “Strong” boys died, Corlys pretty much backed out and left the Blacks faction and joined the Greens.
I thnk raenys and corlys are both not as supporters of rahenyra but daemon.Corlys always liked daemon and showed him support, daemon was the one he could turned to for help. Daemon married a velaryon and was for once faithfull to her. Daemon had children with the velaryon. So if you follow the logic and raenys does not beleive in a female ruler. They are supporters of daemon rather than daenyra. They probably think that once daenyra and daemon win, the realm will choose daemon and then their children will be first in line for the iron throne. So yeah ... they are supporters of the blacks. But not supporters of raenyra.
Great video, I agree Rhaenys suddenly being for team black was done poorly. In regards to having children with Laenor, I believe the best solution would have been to have Laenor’s cousin bed Rhaenyra that way the children look legit, will have Valeryon blood, and the uncle that calls Rhaenyra kids out would be satisfied since his blood would be on the throne and that way he wouldn’t accuse them of being bastards.
The show so obviously favours team black it’s actually annoying.
They legit made Rhaenyra not kill Laenor when it happened in the books all so that she wouldn’t look bad.
There's too many moments like that throughout the season tbh 😤
I truly think that Rhaenys and Corlys should have shown more resistance towards the Black faction, solely because Rhaenyra and Daemon were directly responsible for Laenor’s and Vaemond’s deaths. We saw how devastated Rhaenys and Corlys were when they lost both their children. Even in the books, them joining Team Black was ridiculous, just another plot hole to me.
this has been one of my few substantial grievances with the show from the beginning. Velaryon motivations just don’t add up. hopefully they flesh it out more in season 2, because it’s a major part of the show that holds a lot of significance.
Yeah, they need to make it clearer why they support Rhaenyra so strongly, because I don't buy it at this point. How can they be her number one fans when they also believe that she killed their son (and their daughter actually)??? 🤔
Thank you for making this video. I’ve been saying this since watching the show.
It's honestly an aspect that always annoyed me since season 1's conclusion. Season 2 needs to give us some answers on this.
I lord Bloodraven agreed with your views.
it's a amazing point my friend
It makes no god-damned sense. Not even in the books. My best guess is because Driftmark is so close to Dragonstone and its dragons, they were afraid that if they supported Alicent, or even if they remain neutral, those dragons would be used against Driftmark and House Velaryon.
The answer might have been just plain fear.
Also credit to you for asking the real and piercing questions and not choosing a side.
Team Green is just as messed up as we shall see with Aemond burning the Riverlands next season.
Personally I'm on Team Smallfolk, Team Sense and Team Decency.
Unfortunately it seems my faction is incredibly small.
imo they should’ve left in Rhaenyras killing of Vaemond then had the trial scene be Vaemonds family vs Rhaenyra which ends the same with Daemon then ordering Baela come back to dragonstone with them, then have Rhaenys reasoning for supporting Rhaenyra be that they have the girls and that they might be in danger if they don’t offer support
idk I just can’t rationalize the Velaryons support after everything even if Rhaenys wants to see a woman sit the throne in her lifetime surely she wouldn’t just turn a blind eye to every slight to her family over this
I think the reason Rhaenys and Corlys joined Rhaenyra is because they wanted to protect their granddaughters. I think Daemon always knew that and that’s why he and Rhaenyra married as soon as Laenor was “dead” so that Baela and Rhaena are essentially hostages under Rhaenyra, eventually forcing Rhaenys to choose her family. When Rhaenyra offered to marry Baela and Rhaena to Jace and Luke, it wasn’t an offer - it was a threat - that she could do whatever she wanted to her grand daughters even marry them to bastards and ruin their lives. Corlys on the other hand always liked Daemon. Once Rhaenys convinced him that they had no choice but to side with Rhaenyra, he didn’t need much convincing to ally with her.
Well, I feel like there’s nothing to little difference from their characters in TV show and books. They took similar decisions under similar circumstances. SPOILER;
Corlys will change sides and in the season Finale, he expressed how discontent he was with Rhaenyra. So it’s not like it’s blind loyalty.
When people will realise that all these "incoherences" only happen because of the changes made by the showrunners. If your make a timeline with every single character with what were they doing and where they were, you will see that the Velaryons and Daemon share 14 years long standing stay within their domains and in their home.
Laenor dying does not serve Rhaenyra nor Daemon. Laenor is a seasoned dragonrider who has known Seasmoke from a very young age, his dead is the loss of a very powerful dragonrider for the wars to come. Also Daemon and Rhaenyra did not sleep in Laena's funeral, the reason why is because of Aegon. Aegon III is born in the last month of 120 AC and Laena died at the early days of the 1st month of that year. That means that at the very least there is a 3 month gap. In which Daemon had been living with Corlys, Rhaenys, Baela and Rhaena since he moved on to Hightide with Laena in the year 117 AC. Daemon is said to have gone to Driftmark in 105 AC after the death of his child with Mysaria, however it would be a whole 1 year before the War of the Stepstones were to commence. That means Daemon had been living with the Velaryons since then and only stopped when he eloped with Laena.
Now adding this details to the picture, Laenor dying severed the direct tie Rhaenyra had with the Velaryons despite Corlys having accepted her kids while Laenor lived. Daemon marrying Rhaenyra gives her a direct tie to the Velaryons with Baela and Rhaena in the book sharing blood ties with them and their betrothal, not to forget that since 105 AC Daemon had not lived in Dragonstone or in King's Landing but coming and going and residing with his goodparents.
That's why in the books the quote during the Dance is revealing:
"When her husband Prince Daemon fell, House Velaryon turned against her." -The World of Ice and Fire
That's only a part of the Velaryon's reasoning. There is also need to add, that when the Triarchy assaulted his lands and ships and also the coasts of the the Stormlands and Crownlands, none of the lords nor the crown moved a finger so much, that Corlys had to ally with his former enemy Daemon Targaryen. Both had almost gone to war during Rhaenys vs Viserys dilemma.
If you can't comprehend how or why Corlys and Rhaenys would support Rhaenyra, then you surely did not understand how then Corlys allied himself with the spearhead of Viserys crowning and later he himself knelt and crown him his King in 109AC. For 2 long ass years House Velaryon allegiance had been with Daemon, making their faction the most powerful by counting Caraxes, Meleys, Seasmoke and Vhagar, while Viserys family barely counted with Syrax.
Adding to this situation comes the next quote:
" Prince Daemon [...] neither the GREENS nor the BLACKS had a place for him... *but House Velaryon* was powerful enough *to defy* both parties *with impunity* "
Also, I think the fact that Laena died alone via dragonfire should be at the very least suspicious to the Velaryons. Isnt it basically an open secret that Daemon may have killed his first wife? What are the odds ANOTHER just so happens to die with zero witnesses and burned to death? That on its own you may be able to reconcile but the fact he then immediately marries the woman you already think actually killed your son should immediately cast doubt on him as well. This never being mentioned drives me up a wall. I legitimately dont understand why Rhaenyra has so many supporters both in and out of the show. (for any reasons other than omg slay girlboss)
She had support because she is the rightful heir. I'd rather have her than a rapist degenerate as a ruler. Cry about it.
Yeah people just gloss over Laena's death. Her dying alone on the other side of the ocean with a man who has killed his wife before and doesn't have a good reputation even outside of death doesn't raise any questions especially when he immediately marries another woman at her funeral.
What is the name of the background music?
Corlys is not bashed the same way Otto is for being willing to sell his kid daughter younger than Alicent to Viserys. He is also ambitious and self serving just like Otto and yet they all love him!
Rhaenys and Corlys support a bastard to take Driftmark regardless of the fact Laenor acknowledged him. It should go to Vaemond being the next legitimate male Velaryon or to Rhaena or Baela. Overlooking their own granddaughters.
They support the two people Daemon and Rhaenyra who are responsible for them losing their son and are fine with them marrying less than a month after the death of Daemon’s wife their daughter!!
Rhaenys crushes and kills countless commoners when she burst into the sept!
You make a very VERY valid point here in that Princess Rhaenyra should have met with her good parents and her father and with Ser Laenor confess that despite their most valiant efforts . . . Laenor was sterile. Could an alternative option be exercised for the the Targaryen - Velaryon offspring of this marital union?!? Perhaps a Velaryon surrogate father could be incorporated to do the deed like one of Laenor's cousins who didn't have the physical limitations that Laenor had but still possess the Valyrian blood traits of Purple eyes Aquiline nose and Platinum hair that House Velaryon did!?!? No just shy black man of course but a full-blooded and true born Velaryon like Daemon Velaryon who I believe we met in episode five as he accompanied Lady Laena to receive the entourage of👑 Viserys as it arrives at High Tide.
I’m pretty sure due to the time period that it made sense why they never discussed it.
There's also that scene in the books where one of Rhaenyra's allies goes "Bastards are all traitors"
A lot of her allies clearly believe her Strong boys are legitimate. Are they just gonna cut this from the show?
They're probably gonna cut it. I have a whole video where I discuss the bias of the show. 🙄
I think a major point is being missed here, the Hightower's should never had meddled with the throne especially when the reigning power are mad, dragon wielding psychopaths'. Just by studying their history, Otto should never have pushed his daughter to marry a man as indecisive as Viserys with a an insane brother like Daemon.
One of the biggest "wtf" moments for me from the 1st season. Logically it just made no sense for them to support Rhaenyra. My only explanation is that Rhaenys just wants to live vicariously through a woman. She doesn't care if it's Rhaenyra or Alicent just any woman will do
Chances are Corlys and Rhaenys knew their son was gay and a quitter - and were therefore glad they were not exposed, but somewhat covered by Rhaenyra passing her bastards of as their lineage.
Chances are Vaemond eagerly smearing Rhaenyra and her children and exposing this plot was bad for Corlys and Rhaenys as well. So Daemon beheading him benefitted them. It's not like Vaemond tried to defend Corlys or Laenor's honour with his accusations. The opposite - he exposed him as dumb, a weakling or impotent at best. Furthering himself to replace Laenor.
Chances are Rhaenys is bitter that she wasn't allowed to be Queen back in the day. Having even Daemon against her. Being put down because of your gender is something women Connect over. This time the Greens steal her niece's Throne for the same reason. But this time Daemon is on their side... she might feel empowered through this. It might be Corlys doesn't Enjoy seeing his wife had been put down and feels with her.
Chances are the Greens will kill Off all that stood against them on Team black. There go their grandchildren their daughter Laenna has with Daemon. Who is Team black, and the rivaling queen's consort. Favouring your grandchildren's survival is a Non brainer. I mean...the chances for Team black against Team green are 50/50. Even if Greens win - They would lose. So They can just tip it to secure their grandchildren at least in Case of a win for their side of the war. They have the Mighty ships after all... to Tip their side for the win.
Chances are they believed Rhaenyra that their son's alledged murder wasn't her fault. Even though they still were upset enough at his Funeral to accuse her. Even if not...what's done is done. Laenor is already lost. All that is still left is to protect their grandkids.
I have Not watched the show or read the Books yet. But watched a lot off those Fan vids. I Hope i am well informed enough to give my 2 cents ;).
Id like to believe they only support the blacks because of their granddaughters, and maybe their 'grandsons' too, even though theyre bastards considering corlys seems to have somecare for the boys, despite knowing they arent of hisblood. We know they love rhaena and baela dearly though, and with all 5 of these children being team black themselves and under rhaenyra and daemon they might feel obligated to join rhaenyras cause for them
The show messed itself up with having Rhaenyra's children be so clearly bastards. Firstly IRL terms the Velaryon children and grandchildren should be way less (universally) black-passing then they are presented as in the show; especially Rhaena and Baela whose mother is merely biracial and father is white. Secondly the show should have kept Rhaenys having more Baratheon features, even casting Jocelyn Baratheon, and emphasizing the Baratheon connection. The boys could still have somewhat of a familiar resemblance to the Strongs but this gives Rhaenyra plausible deny ability. Corlys, Rheanys, Baelea/Rhaena and many others could truly believe Rhaenyra's sons are Laenor's. So as the civil war begins despite suspicions, Rhaenyra can convince Rhaenys she did not kill Laenor and ultimately Corlys sides with her out of love and protection for his grandsons.
Great points 👌🏻
Thanks 🙏
Thank I thought I was the only one thinking this y would rhaenys side with the blacks it makes no sense….until u realize daemon daughters r Rhaenys grandchildren n she will support them
She has to support them because she already made a pact saying her granddaughters were going to marry Rhaenyras’ sons. There is a deleted scene where Rhaenys is telling Baela that she wants her and Rhaena to come with Rhaenys and Corlys so they stay can stay out of the war but then Baela says no and that they should stay and help Rhaenyra and Daemon. I feel like they should’ve kept that scene because it would’ve added a more insight into who Baela is.
@@niara2411 marriage pacts can be changed n they can be annulled n voided. Idk about the deleted scene though I’ll check it out. R the deleted scenes canon though?
Well she couldn’t date another black guy cause they’re not black in the books that’s just modern black washing which is funny since apparently the show is removing nettles who’s probably the coolest actually colored character
My point was: since they've already change certain elements of the books, such as making the Velaryons black, then they could've also changed Rhaenyra's love interest and made him a black man. There are black characters in the world of ASOIAF, so it wouldn't have been blackwashing to create an original black character that Rhaenyra fell for and had children with.
I’m gonna say this, I support Team Black through and through. I do not support Team Green, but I do not condone the wrongdoings that Rhaenyra herself has committed. Sleeping with Criston Cole and turning him into an enemy, sleeping with Harwin was the stupidest decision she ever made and neglecting her responsibilities.
I cannot fully put the blame on the characters because it’s not their fault for the way season one turned out season one was great, but the problem is that they adapted so much from the book that part of it doesn’t make sense and part of it doesn’t even add up with their counterpart, they have done this in the original Game of Thrones and I know for a fact they are going to continue this for the next three seasons.
The issue with the Velaryons is that their book counterparts are white, but they wanna use black characters to insult the intelligence of the audience by making Rhaenyra’s three sons look way different from Laenor. I really don’t get it. In the books, her three sons can claim dragons. They don’t have the silver hair or the purple eyes and they don’t have Valyrians features, but it was difficult for anybody to protest their legitimacy due to Laenor being a white male. They really expected us to be blind to what they were really trying to do by saying everything that happens on the show is different from the way it happened in the books?
The fact that the boys came out white isn't really that far fetch. Laenor himself is only half black (his mother is a Targaryen Princess) What make is obvious was their dark hair. Show Rhaenys doesnt have Baratheon hair like in the books.
Woke writers keep pumping thier political agendas into every god damn show, im honestly really sick of it, going to stick to anime which just focuses on good writing, good action, and appeals to the male fantasy, without brow beating its audience or insults our intelligence.
Where is the political agenda happening in the show?
Girl power ? Blackwashing ? Especially if you have heard the nettles rumour. They probably really fucked up this time
@@niara2411 they decided to race swamp the Velaryons for no reason other than to inject diversity and then cut nettles a ACTUAL black character that GRRM wrote, with a incredibly interesting arc. Not to mention they frame the blacks as good guys even though Rhaenys herself kills hundreds of innocent people all for a girl boss moment and all the greens as bad people even though they were just politically more savy, GRRM is all about the moral grey and how people are always doing whats in their best interest in thier hearts.
@@niara2411 Barely anywhere. But we heard already why he likes anime, because it appeals to the
male fantasy. So anything that isn't a mans 💧 dream, he won't watch.
I think it's sad and doesn't do anime justice. Always loved series like Monster, Eva, Haibane Renmei, Last Exile ect ( I'm old ) and none of these play into male fantasy. He sucks and just wants fanservice, so he has something to go off to.
OMG your the ISHOTD woke guy, I was wondering why this video and your comments just felt wrong.
Cry toddler
What felt wrong?
What’s wrong with the video? It seems a logical viewpoint as to past history of Rhaenyra n the Velaryon relationship?
Speaking logic is calling the show woke? It doesn't make sense for the Velaryons to support the woman they believe killed their son. How is that so hard to understand.