***PLEASE READ Part of the video was damaged after a couple years and had to edit out. TH-cam could not repair the video file. BEFORE YOU START THE TIMING PROCEDURE, PUT THE CRANKSHAFT KEY IN THE 5:00 POSITION This will allow the pistons to be below the deck***
@@taylormade586Same. Ford’s walk through PDF with step-by-step instructions for the work mentions having the keyway at 7:30 for the passenger side and 3:30 for the driver side of the engine
I have timed Mustang Coyote motors before but found this video when timing a Gen2 F-150 motor. Great video and much appreciated info. This is a unique video and realyl helpful. I just subscribed and liked. Keep up the good work.
How do you know where the crank is, or does it mater as long as you start with the crank at 5 clock then 7:30 for the passenger side. can the crank be 360 degree off, or what piston should be firing or does this matter?
Great video, very helpful. I’m doing a 2016 F150, I’ve put all timing set components back on but when installing the right (pass) side primary chain guide that’s on the outside with the tensioner, that where the guide goes onto the mounting pin, it seems like the guide is missing a spacer to keep it from sliding all the way against the block and therefore being in line with the crankshaft sprocket back row teeth (chain for drivers side). Is there supposed to be a gap , or am I missing a spacer on the mounting pin between the block and chain guide? Thanks, Jim
If you use Mustang intake cams, you need to use Mustang exhaust cams as well. The 2015-2017 Mustang and F150 have different firing orders. I have a How to time a 15-17 Mustang GT video as well.
Extremely helpful. Dumb question. On reassembly, im trying to torque the harmonic balancer. Summit says 103 ft lbs, back off 1/4 turn, then 74 ft lbs.....alldata says, 103 ft lbs, loosen 360 degrees, torque to 74 ft lbs after that, then go 90 degrees. Im worried about that. I'm trying to follow all of the instructions but i just feel like that's too much. Can you let me know which one is right?
@@Oxman_Garage awesome thank you man. Slapped it all back together and it runs like new. Followed alldata originally but finding your video gave me such peace of mind with physically seeing how you had it lined up compared to mine with the timing marks. One thing I can definitely say to anyone is use the proper tool for that crank pulley. I tried to using the install bolt from MMR and didn't have much luck unfortunately. Not sure if it was just me or if there was something I was doing wrong or what. Started feeling way too tight as I brought it in, I stopped and decided to rent the tool, lucky I did because when I took the MMR bolt out, it seemed it was trying to strip the threads either on the bolt or in the crank a little. Saw like 1 or 2 metal shavings. Rented the OEM tools balancer installer tool and it went on like butter. Barely had to use force, I guess because all of the force is applied to the nut and not rotating in the threads of the crank.
I saw your video on installing timing chains on a Gen2 F150 and noticed that the process is different than doing Gen2 Mustang. All the other videos I’ve seen show starting with the crank at 5 o’clock and then rotating 360* and back to 12 o’clock. For the F150, you say to start at 5 o’clock and then go to 7:30 to do the passenger side. I haven’t been able to find that anywhere else. Would you mind clarifying? I have a 2017 F150 motor with F150 cams.
you’re right but on the F-150, key way was at 3:30(not 5) , put the left chain on, then turn to 7:30 and put the right chain on. note: when you remove it, you remove the right chain first from the 7:30, since you only want to turn the crank clockwise, you go 1 revolution to 7:30, then do a half turn more to 3:30 where you can take off the left chain. Pay attention, you will see the R on the right side at 11oclock, you will see the L mark on left side at 1oclock. be carrful
You should make a video of installing the mustang intake cams in since a popular upgrade..watched both of these gen2 timing videos and since doing the intake cam swap but the phaser marks don't line up
I have everything in the right spot but my intake cam on the passenger side does not want to seat smooth almost like a cam lobe is hitting a rocker. Any suggestions please?
Put it in the position shown, even if the cam isn't all the way down. Start the tourqe procedure. If the cam moves, use a wrench on the flats of the cam to keep it in position.
Hey, I have a gen 2 f150 that I am going to be pulling apart to do opg’s and cs. I have done the gen 1 stuff but not gen 2. Since the gen 2 f150 is different than the gen 2 mustang, what is the procedure to disassemble it down to do those mods? Where to start the keyway? How much to turn keyway when switching sides, etc?
Hey can you leave the cam caps on and set the timing like that or would I need to loosen them up to move them and also does it matter if it's TDC or are the valves clear of the piston when the key way is placed correctly
The cam caps have to be tourqed in place to time the system. If you follow the procedure, the pistons will be below the valves, so there's no piston to valve contact.
When installing my drivers side long chain, it is impossible for me to line up the "L" Hashmark on the exhaust phaser and still line up to the D-Slot with my exhaust phaser pin as you described. It appears my exhaust phaser is marked "R" where yours is marked "L" and "L" where your is marked "R". Will it affect anything if I line it up to the "R" instead of the "L" on the drivers side ?? Have not checked the passenger side yet but guessing I will run into the same thing. I do have ford OEM Phasers by the way. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I have the detail that they brought me pieces separately and I am not sure if the trees on the right side are the ones on the left side, it is 271 and 273 What number of trees are those on the right side?
Hey I follow all your steps but when I put the big timing chain after half rotation it becomes loose , is the tensioner broken or did I do the timing wrong ?
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***PLEASE READ Part of the video was damaged after a couple years and had to edit out. TH-cam could not repair the video file.
BEFORE YOU START THE TIMING PROCEDURE, PUT THE CRANKSHAFT KEY IN THE 5:00 POSITION
This will allow the pistons to be below the deck***
I’m confused man the video has it at 330 all data says 330 but your edit is saying 5 why the difference?
Is 5:00 TDC 1?
@@taylormade586Same. Ford’s walk through PDF with step-by-step instructions for the work mentions having the keyway at 7:30 for the passenger side and 3:30 for the driver side of the engine
@@kyfrmhardaway09 so is this video incorrect? If so can you share the correct way?
Amazing job of walking us through this procedure. Very good details and easy to follow process you offered . Thank you so much .
That is awesome, thank you. I’ve got to give mine a complete timing kit soon.
I have timed Mustang Coyote motors before but found this video when timing a Gen2 F-150 motor. Great video and much appreciated info. This is a unique video and realyl helpful. I just subscribed and liked. Keep up the good work.
Thank you, glad I could help
Where do you put the crank after a complete rebuild to start the timing procedure? Should cylinder 1 be at TDC?
Damn right brother!!! Great Job Josh
How do you know where the crank is, or does it mater as long as you start with the crank at 5 clock then 7:30 for the passenger side. can the crank be 360 degree off, or what piston should be firing or does this matter?
Gracias me ayudaste a salir de mi problema 👍🏽😊❤
Great video, very helpful. I’m doing a 2016 F150, I’ve put all timing set components back on but when installing the right (pass) side primary chain guide that’s on the outside with the tensioner, that where the guide goes onto the mounting pin, it seems like the guide is missing a spacer to keep it from sliding all the way against the block and therefore being in line with the crankshaft sprocket back row teeth (chain for drivers side). Is there supposed to be a gap , or am I missing a spacer on the mounting pin between the block and chain guide?
Thanks,
Jim
Thank you. Yes there is a little gap on the pin for that timing chain guide. Completely normal.
What if youre using a F150 gen 2 with mustang intake cams going in a fox? Id assume youd just use the mustsng timing instead?
If you use Mustang intake cams, you need to use Mustang exhaust cams as well. The 2015-2017 Mustang and F150 have different firing orders. I have a How to time a 15-17 Mustang GT video as well.
@@Oxman_Garage ok, so you use the timing set up from a mustang then is what I am asking and not the set up from a F150
Extremely helpful. Dumb question. On reassembly, im trying to torque the harmonic balancer. Summit says 103 ft lbs, back off 1/4 turn, then 74 ft lbs.....alldata says, 103 ft lbs, loosen 360 degrees, torque to 74 ft lbs after that, then go 90 degrees. Im worried about that. I'm trying to follow all of the instructions but i just feel like that's too much. Can you let me know which one is right?
Thanks! The first one you listed is correct. You got this! :)
103 lb. Ft.
Loosen 360
74 lb. Ft.
90 degrees
@@Oxman_Garage awesome thank you man. Slapped it all back together and it runs like new. Followed alldata originally but finding your video gave me such peace of mind with physically seeing how you had it lined up compared to mine with the timing marks.
One thing I can definitely say to anyone is use the proper tool for that crank pulley. I tried to using the install bolt from MMR and didn't have much luck unfortunately. Not sure if it was just me or if there was something I was doing wrong or what. Started feeling way too tight as I brought it in, I stopped and decided to rent the tool, lucky I did because when I took the MMR bolt out, it seemed it was trying to strip the threads either on the bolt or in the crank a little. Saw like 1 or 2 metal shavings. Rented the OEM tools balancer installer tool and it went on like butter. Barely had to use force, I guess because all of the force is applied to the nut and not rotating in the threads of the crank.
I saw your video on installing timing chains on a Gen2 F150 and noticed that the process is different than doing Gen2 Mustang. All the other videos I’ve seen show starting with the crank at 5 o’clock and then rotating 360* and back to 12 o’clock. For the F150, you say to start at 5 o’clock and then go to 7:30 to do the passenger side. I haven’t been able to find that anywhere else. Would you mind clarifying? I have a 2017 F150 motor with F150 cams.
Find my Facebook Page. MILWAUKEE MUSTANG AUTO PARTS. Send me a message with your email and I will send you the timing instructions.
you’re right but on the F-150, key way was at 3:30(not 5) , put the left chain on, then turn to 7:30 and put the right chain on.
note: when you remove it, you remove the right chain first from the 7:30, since you only want to turn the crank clockwise, you go 1 revolution to 7:30, then do a half turn more to 3:30 where you can take off the left chain.
Pay attention, you will see the R on the right side at 11oclock, you will see the L mark on left side at 1oclock.
be carrful
You should make a video of installing the mustang intake cams in since a popular upgrade..watched both of these gen2 timing videos and since doing the intake cam swap but the phaser marks don't line up
If you're going to swap to Mustang camshafts, make sure you swap both the intake and exhaust cams
Very helpful
I have everything in the right spot but my intake cam on the passenger side does not want to seat smooth almost like a cam lobe is hitting a rocker. Any suggestions please?
Put it in the position shown, even if the cam isn't all the way down. Start the tourqe procedure. If the cam moves, use a wrench on the flats of the cam to keep it in position.
@@Oxman_Garage awesome thank you sm
Is it necessary to remove cams to get heads off???
Yes, cams need to come off to remove the head bolts
@@Oxman_Garage thank you doing my first one this week!!!!
Hey, I have a gen 2 f150 that I am going to be pulling apart to do opg’s and cs. I have done the gen 1 stuff but not gen 2. Since the gen 2 f150 is different than the gen 2 mustang, what is the procedure to disassemble it down to do those mods? Where to start the keyway? How much to turn keyway when switching sides, etc?
@@Oxman_Garagecan I get those directions
Hey can you leave the cam caps on and set the timing like that or would I need to loosen them up to move them and also does it matter if it's TDC or are the valves clear of the piston when the key way is placed correctly
The cam caps have to be tourqed in place to time the system. If you follow the procedure, the pistons will be below the valves, so there's no piston to valve contact.
@Oxman Garage would I turn each cam individually with the caps torqued down and set them that way and thanks for the response
Do you have the instructions for gen 2 mustang?
@@Oxman_Garage thank you, I sent you a message on Facebook
When installing my drivers side long chain, it is impossible for me to line up the "L" Hashmark on the exhaust phaser and still line up to the D-Slot with my exhaust phaser pin as you described. It appears my exhaust phaser is marked "R" where yours is marked "L" and "L" where your is marked "R". Will it affect anything if I line it up to the "R" instead of the "L" on the drivers side ?? Have not checked the passenger side yet but guessing I will run into the same thing. I do have ford OEM Phasers by the way. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Find me on Facebook. "Milwaukee Mustang Auto Parts Oxman Garage" and send me a message with pictures. Thanks!
I know it was 9 months ago, but I was interested in what the resolution was here.
Hi, how can I set crank sprocket?
Already cam neutral position ready.
How can you set the crank sprocket? You mean move it? Not sure I understand
@@Oxman_Garage Hi,
The crank hinge points to the 5 o'clock position.
Yea it doesn't show how to position the crankshaft, says nothing about initial setup for crank position prior to installing left side cams
Hi , is it the same process for a 2013 f150 5.0 ?
No, the 2011-2014 is different
where are you guys located to take my truck for repair?
Sorry, not a shop
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en inglés por favor
I have the detail that they brought me pieces separately and I am not sure if the trees on the right side are the ones on the left side, it is 271 and 273 What number of trees are those on the right side?
Hey I follow all your steps but when I put the big timing chain after half rotation it becomes loose , is the tensioner broken or did I do the timing wrong ?
What is loose? The big chain? What side are we talking about, the left or right?
@OxMan_Garage yes the big one both side becomes loose at some point then tight after a half a turn and keeps going like that
@@Oxman_Garage is there any other way to contact you if u don't mind helping me ?
I need you help