17:56 i actually like that the kit track is louder: i always Put my Samples there. I always had db loss on the other channel. Love your content btw. You are the best TH-camr for the verselab :)
thank you so much for this. This machine is so full of hiden mysteries that are not documented, I went through the manual and parameter guide and didn't find why I couldn't change the trigger of my sample to gated (I was on the kick track). Now I know all the different default settings of each track (I wonder how you discovered all that) Thanks for sharing. Very educational and easy to follow video, well done.
I appreciate the encouragement. Most of what I discover is through discussions with Verselab groups of Facebook, and spending a lot of time experimenting. For this video, for example, I had some of the same frustrations you had, so I made some test samples, and loaded them on every track to see if they worked differently. When they did, then I had to go through and figure out why, a piece at a time. It probably doesn't seem like it, but I usually spend about a week taking a deep dive into a specific topic before making these videos. I'm happy if I was able to shed some light on some of the functionality here, I should be making new videos starting this week.
Good timing! The next video (probably this week) is going to be on Vocal Takes, the video after that we'll discuss Looper Tracks. There's still quite a bit more I have planned, but life's gotten a bit in the way lately.
Thanks for this video. Do you know how to prevent two bass tones from playing at the same time when switching to a new section? Tone settings are on tone in both sections. I also tried mono, but neither prevents two bass tones from playing at the same time when one's at the end of one section and the other's at the beginning of the new section. When playing a section in SEQ mode they don't play at the same time, but when playing in SONG mode and it goes from one section to the next they do.
I'd have to see the specific project, but you may find success in setting both as MONO (instead of TONE or POLY) sounds in SECTION SELECT < TONE SETTINGS. The other thing is, the verselab tends to continue tails and running through envelopes from section to section (but only ONE section, it will stop it when it hits a 2nd new section). The other thing you can do is use the sample in a KIT track (if you're not using it chromatically), and set the kit track to SUS, then set the length of the tone on the step sequencer (SUS sets it as GATE control, NO-SUS as a trigger). If you're using it as a melodic sample, on a tone track, the same thing applies, but to use it as a GATE, you need the TONE track to be on KIT, BASS, INST1, or INST2.
TL;DR: No, the verselab gives an error message saying the sample is too short, but, then, I'm not sure why you'd WANT a single cycle waveform on this device, or how you'd use it. ***** I just tried this, and the answer is no, with a but. I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding here... Using a single waveform is something you'd do for, say, a wavetable synth (most commonly), and the synth interprets the wave shape as an oscillator shape and does a bunch of work to turn that into a repeating sound of the frequency necessary depending on the MIDI note requested. The verselab (and virtually every other digital sampler) uses a digital sound file, and just plays it back. On the surface these sound like a similar idea, but in practice, it's quite different. In a WAV file there's a header that tells the thing reading it what the sample rate is, what the bit rate is, if it's stereo or mono, etc, and the verselab (and other samplers) use (need) this data to play the file. So in this example I created a single sawooth waveform at 440hz... This was around 100 samples at the verselab's required 44.1KHz. But, since it's going to play this back at 44.1KHz, this isn't really a single waveform as much as a VERY SHORT A4 note. The big difference between a synth and sampler is how this data is handled, and in a synth you're going to have very granular controls to shape how this data is used, in a sample you typically have start, end, and loop points... When you load this very tiny single sample WAV file to the verselab, it tells you it's too short. At the end of the day, I'm not sure how or why you'd want a single cycle waveform on the verselab, as without the proper parameter controls, it would be virtually useless. In a sampler that varies pitch by altering speed, I typically make samples that are at least 5 seconds to give some flexibility in octaves and use in chords, and with the 12 minutes of mono space we have for samples, this size of sample isn't really a problem, you could have more of these samples than you have space to use them.
There is another option .. you're basically wanting to create oscillator shapes, like a synth would... Unfortunately I don't have/can't afford Zenology Pro, but, as this is a synth, and uses the same engine as the verselab, you may be able to create your own oscillator shapes in Zenology Pro, then save that as a patch for the synth engine on the verselab.
17:56 i actually like that the kit track is louder: i always Put my Samples there. I always had db loss on the other channel. Love your content btw. You are the best TH-camr for the verselab :)
Incredibly helpful tutorial thank you.
thank you so much for this. This machine is so full of hiden mysteries that are not documented, I went through the manual and parameter guide and didn't find why I couldn't change the trigger of my sample to gated (I was on the kick track). Now I know all the different default settings of each track (I wonder how you discovered all that) Thanks for sharing. Very educational and easy to follow video, well done.
I appreciate the encouragement. Most of what I discover is through discussions with Verselab groups of Facebook, and spending a lot of time experimenting. For this video, for example, I had some of the same frustrations you had, so I made some test samples, and loaded them on every track to see if they worked differently. When they did, then I had to go through and figure out why, a piece at a time. It probably doesn't seem like it, but I usually spend about a week taking a deep dive into a specific topic before making these videos. I'm happy if I was able to shed some light on some of the functionality here, I should be making new videos starting this week.
This is a great video series on the Verselab. Id really appreciate another guide on the looper functionality.
Good timing! The next video (probably this week) is going to be on Vocal Takes, the video after that we'll discuss Looper Tracks. There's still quite a bit more I have planned, but life's gotten a bit in the way lately.
Thanks for this video. Do you know how to prevent two bass tones from playing at the same time when switching to a new section? Tone settings are on tone in both sections. I also tried mono, but neither prevents two bass tones from playing at the same time when one's at the end of one section and the other's at the beginning of the new section. When playing a section in SEQ mode they don't play at the same time, but when playing in SONG mode and it goes from one section to the next they do.
I'd have to see the specific project, but you may find success in setting both as MONO (instead of TONE or POLY) sounds in SECTION SELECT < TONE SETTINGS. The other thing is, the verselab tends to continue tails and running through envelopes from section to section (but only ONE section, it will stop it when it hits a 2nd new section). The other thing you can do is use the sample in a KIT track (if you're not using it chromatically), and set the kit track to SUS, then set the length of the tone on the step sequencer (SUS sets it as GATE control, NO-SUS as a trigger). If you're using it as a melodic sample, on a tone track, the same thing applies, but to use it as a GATE, you need the TONE track to be on KIT, BASS, INST1, or INST2.
can it loop single cycle waveforms?
TL;DR: No, the verselab gives an error message saying the sample is too short, but, then, I'm not sure why you'd WANT a single cycle waveform on this device, or how you'd use it.
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I just tried this, and the answer is no, with a but. I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding here... Using a single waveform is something you'd do for, say, a wavetable synth (most commonly), and the synth interprets the wave shape as an oscillator shape and does a bunch of work to turn that into a repeating sound of the frequency necessary depending on the MIDI note requested. The verselab (and virtually every other digital sampler) uses a digital sound file, and just plays it back. On the surface these sound like a similar idea, but in practice, it's quite different. In a WAV file there's a header that tells the thing reading it what the sample rate is, what the bit rate is, if it's stereo or mono, etc, and the verselab (and other samplers) use (need) this data to play the file.
So in this example I created a single sawooth waveform at 440hz... This was around 100 samples at the verselab's required 44.1KHz. But, since it's going to play this back at 44.1KHz, this isn't really a single waveform as much as a VERY SHORT A4 note. The big difference between a synth and sampler is how this data is handled, and in a synth you're going to have very granular controls to shape how this data is used, in a sample you typically have start, end, and loop points... When you load this very tiny single sample WAV file to the verselab, it tells you it's too short.
At the end of the day, I'm not sure how or why you'd want a single cycle waveform on the verselab, as without the proper parameter controls, it would be virtually useless. In a sampler that varies pitch by altering speed, I typically make samples that are at least 5 seconds to give some flexibility in octaves and use in chords, and with the 12 minutes of mono space we have for samples, this size of sample isn't really a problem, you could have more of these samples than you have space to use them.
There is another option .. you're basically wanting to create oscillator shapes, like a synth would... Unfortunately I don't have/can't afford Zenology Pro, but, as this is a synth, and uses the same engine as the verselab, you may be able to create your own oscillator shapes in Zenology Pro, then save that as a patch for the synth engine on the verselab.