I decided I’d use the verselab as a multi track. A two minute vocal, a guitar , one track of harmonies and memory full. I’ll need to be more sparse and use shorter samples. This isn’t a complaint, I just forgot! It’ll make me behave and think a little more and learn how to bounce 😂
I must add that I forgot I had takes I didn’t use and also forgot about and once o deleted them I got another full track. I really love this machine. I have it two and a half years and was a total newbie to “anything electronic”. I’ve enjoyed the learning curve and embraced it! 🤓🤦♂️😂😂😂
Yeah, the verselab is mostly made to use synths, with a vocal line, or two over the top. We've only got 12 min of mono audio (or, since stereo audio is 2 mono tracks, 6 min of stereo), so, it is *possible* to make this work, but it may take some effort to be more efficient. Especially consider making sure your audio sources that don't need to be stereo, aren't. And, as an added reminder, if you use the sampling engine on the verselab (instead of vocal takes), it will ALWAYS output stereo (even for mono sources). So, depending on how and what you're working with, you may need to go to your computer and convert samples to mono. You may also consider resampling multiple vocal takes. If you have, say, 4 stereo vocal takes, that are all finished, you could resample this into one vocal take with resampling, using less of the limited resource in the audio space. At the end of the day, your use case isn't what the verselab was designed for, but, keep pushing, make something interesting. 🙂
@@LeRoy3rd thanks for the reply and the (as always excellent advice). I know I’m being a little tangential as to not using it as intended but it’s a lot of fun! I’m sure I’ll work around it and enjoy the journey! I always look forward to your content and comments on all your videos. Thank you 🙏
@@ljljlj1 Thanks for the encouragement. I have around a dozen new videos outlined, but my phone died, and that's caused a bit of an issue making new videos, unfortunately. I do still stay pretty active on the Facebook group "Roland MV-1 VERSELAB Users" (with a lot of other people with similar interests). If you're not yet following there, I highly suggest it. 👍
Imagine the verselab had a traditional style 8ch multitrack recorder as part of the vocal track instead of the time limited 16takes. It would be amazing. It’s still great though.
Do you know if the presets from Roland cloud sound fonts (or whatever they are called) take up memory? Also great video I always learn something from your stuff.
First, the sound files (SDZ files) can't be loaded onto hardware if you have a Roland cloud subscription (just a clarification that people often misunderstand). That, unfortunately, only gives you the ability to use these sounds on your computer (you have to purchase sound files for use on hardware individually). That being said, this is an interesting question... To test it, I loaded up each track with a kit track, then loaded a kit track from an SDZ file on each, then repeated this for all 16 sections. The memory available didn't change. I then repeated this with tone presets instead of kits. Same result. This may be deceptive, however, as these are synth presets, and very small. For example, I own the first 100 sound files, and ALTOGETHER they take up around 3MB. An entire blank project file from the verselab is around 10MB. These files are so tiny that it's possible that it doesn't even register. So, practically, no, there's no limit, memory-wise, on using presets. Hope that answers your question. 🙂
Correct, all using EDIT+NOTE does is change what the PADS do (it also affects chord mode, even though the display in chord mode has an error and doesn't change). There are a couple of ways to transpose sequences you've already recorded. In the SEQ portion of the workflow, select the track you want to change (you'll actually be changing the CLIP, so if you wanted to change an entire song, you have to do this for each track and each section separately), then press SECTION SELECT, then EDIT+PAD (to select which section you're working with). Scroll to CLIP SETTING, and down to Transpose. Altering this will change everything in that single clip (in other words, this one instrument). The other way you can transpose is, the entire song (but one section at a time,and you have to be in the SONG portion of the workflow). Once you've laid down clips and sections in the SEQ portion of the workflow, section lengths in SECTION, and the order of sections in the SONG portion of the workflow, you can (in SONG), use EDIT+STEP (the pad on the step sequencer that you want to transpose. You'll do this for each section you've added to your song, which is way faster than having to do it for each clip), and scroll to Transpose. Again, this will allow you to transpose an entire section.
As an addition to my reply above, this assumes you're using the tracks in their default state... if you're, say, using a chromatic instrument on any of the "drum" tracks, there is one more thing you need to take a look at in the SONG portion of the workflow... In SONG, press EDIT+SONG, and scroll to where the top line says "SONG(TRANSPOS):". This sets which tracks will be transposed with the EDIT+STEP transposition. The idea is, you probably don't want to transpose your percussion instruments... just because you, say, want to make your bass, pads, or melody move up and down, you probably want to keep your drums where they are. So by default the drum tracks (tracks 1-4) won't transpose. The options in the menu here set which tracks will be affected. So, if you want track 1 (labeled KICK on the button) to transpose, make sure you set that here. Same with snare, hi-hat, and kit. By default only the melodic tracks (tracks 5-7) will transpose.
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I decided I’d use the verselab as a multi track. A two minute vocal, a guitar , one track of harmonies and memory full. I’ll need to be more sparse and use shorter samples. This isn’t a complaint, I just forgot! It’ll make me behave and think a little more and learn how to bounce 😂
I must add that I forgot I had takes I didn’t use and also forgot about and once o deleted them I got another full track. I really love this machine. I have it two and a half years and was a total newbie to “anything electronic”. I’ve enjoyed the learning curve and embraced it! 🤓🤦♂️😂😂😂
Yeah, the verselab is mostly made to use synths, with a vocal line, or two over the top. We've only got 12 min of mono audio (or, since stereo audio is 2 mono tracks, 6 min of stereo), so, it is *possible* to make this work, but it may take some effort to be more efficient. Especially consider making sure your audio sources that don't need to be stereo, aren't. And, as an added reminder, if you use the sampling engine on the verselab (instead of vocal takes), it will ALWAYS output stereo (even for mono sources). So, depending on how and what you're working with, you may need to go to your computer and convert samples to mono. You may also consider resampling multiple vocal takes. If you have, say, 4 stereo vocal takes, that are all finished, you could resample this into one vocal take with resampling, using less of the limited resource in the audio space.
At the end of the day, your use case isn't what the verselab was designed for, but, keep pushing, make something interesting. 🙂
@@LeRoy3rd thanks for the reply and the (as always excellent advice). I know I’m being a little tangential as to not using it as intended but it’s a lot of fun! I’m sure I’ll work around it and enjoy the journey! I always look forward to your content and comments on all your videos.
Thank you 🙏
@@ljljlj1 Thanks for the encouragement. I have around a dozen new videos outlined, but my phone died, and that's caused a bit of an issue making new videos, unfortunately. I do still stay pretty active on the Facebook group "Roland MV-1 VERSELAB Users" (with a lot of other people with similar interests). If you're not yet following there, I highly suggest it. 👍
Imagine the verselab had a traditional style 8ch multitrack recorder as part of the vocal track instead of the time limited 16takes. It would be amazing. It’s still great though.
Do you know if the presets from Roland cloud sound fonts (or whatever they are called) take up memory? Also great video I always learn something from your stuff.
First, the sound files (SDZ files) can't be loaded onto hardware if you have a Roland cloud subscription (just a clarification that people often misunderstand). That, unfortunately, only gives you the ability to use these sounds on your computer (you have to purchase sound files for use on hardware individually).
That being said, this is an interesting question... To test it, I loaded up each track with a kit track, then loaded a kit track from an SDZ file on each, then repeated this for all 16 sections. The memory available didn't change. I then repeated this with tone presets instead of kits. Same result. This may be deceptive, however, as these are synth presets, and very small. For example, I own the first 100 sound files, and ALTOGETHER they take up around 3MB. An entire blank project file from the verselab is around 10MB. These files are so tiny that it's possible that it doesn't even register. So, practically, no, there's no limit, memory-wise, on using presets. Hope that answers your question. 🙂
@@LeRoy3rd that did. I bought a few of the licenses for the SDZ and was wondering. Thank you!
Hey LeRoy, do you know how to change the key on a project that song is already all completed?
I’m trying to change it and nothing is happening other than changing the keys on the pad but not the actual song
Correct, all using EDIT+NOTE does is change what the PADS do (it also affects chord mode, even though the display in chord mode has an error and doesn't change). There are a couple of ways to transpose sequences you've already recorded. In the SEQ portion of the workflow, select the track you want to change (you'll actually be changing the CLIP, so if you wanted to change an entire song, you have to do this for each track and each section separately), then press SECTION SELECT, then EDIT+PAD (to select which section you're working with). Scroll to CLIP SETTING, and down to Transpose. Altering this will change everything in that single clip (in other words, this one instrument).
The other way you can transpose is, the entire song (but one section at a time,and you have to be in the SONG portion of the workflow). Once you've laid down clips and sections in the SEQ portion of the workflow, section lengths in SECTION, and the order of sections in the SONG portion of the workflow, you can (in SONG), use EDIT+STEP (the pad on the step sequencer that you want to transpose. You'll do this for each section you've added to your song, which is way faster than having to do it for each clip), and scroll to Transpose. Again, this will allow you to transpose an entire section.
As an addition to my reply above, this assumes you're using the tracks in their default state... if you're, say, using a chromatic instrument on any of the "drum" tracks, there is one more thing you need to take a look at in the SONG portion of the workflow... In SONG, press EDIT+SONG, and scroll to where the top line says "SONG(TRANSPOS):".
This sets which tracks will be transposed with the EDIT+STEP transposition. The idea is, you probably don't want to transpose your percussion instruments... just because you, say, want to make your bass, pads, or melody move up and down, you probably want to keep your drums where they are. So by default the drum tracks (tracks 1-4) won't transpose. The options in the menu here set which tracks will be affected. So, if you want track 1 (labeled KICK on the button) to transpose, make sure you set that here. Same with snare, hi-hat, and kit. By default only the melodic tracks (tracks 5-7) will transpose.
I'm making a note to make a video about this in the future, but we have a bit of ground to cover first (vocal takes, looper tracks, effects, etc).
@@LeRoy3rd you’re the man brother! 💪