The Untold Feud Between Toyota And Subaru Cancelled The Greatest Sports Car... Twice

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  • @IdealMediaChannel
    @IdealMediaChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This feud between two Japanese titans canceled the project... only to be resurrected by sheer luck!
    Which ideal car do you want to see us do a story on next? ❤‍🔥

  • @frankponte4031
    @frankponte4031 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    So why was the Toyota 86 cancelled? Did I miss those details?

    • @djapothecary
      @djapothecary ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Agreed 😤

    • @trololo666
      @trololo666 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      From what I learned from other sites only small number or GR86 will be produced so it won't be accessible as GT86 was yes they renamed it from GT to GR now Toyota has small set of GR models GR Yaris Corola Supra 86 and Land Crusier Yaris is 3cylender Rally car and its fun to drive all tho its bit expensive and I think it's for European markets only as we don't have Corolla as that was ment for American market also in my country when Manual Supra got out it was cheaper than auto for month and then it got to normal price problem is if u want Manual u can get it only in Top Trim 86 isn't in offer at all they have some leftover used GT86 automatic which are bit overpriced as for GR LC that big boy is for Arab markets

    • @christopherlowery855
      @christopherlowery855 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, vid ended on a cliffhanger. Never found out how or why the car was cancelled. For now, it looks like an unconfirmed rumor.

    • @NXT_LVL
      @NXT_LVL ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yaris is a Mazda anyways. A90 Supra only exists because the deal with BMW that Toyota gave the hydrogen tech stuff from the Mirai to BMW to make an X5 Hybrid/Hydrogen... BMW got to make another generations of Z4s as a result. The Alfa Spider 128 was an Mazda MX5 in an Italian suit. Toyota might be the most sold cars in the world, but Mazda has the most in terms of being the "father"

    • @trololo666
      @trololo666 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't GR Yaris built from ground up and let's not forget Heresy Supra 2.0

  • @NekoWinters
    @NekoWinters ปีที่แล้ว +27

    "Canceled" *literally outselling miata even if you split the twins

  • @SOURMlLK
    @SOURMlLK ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember growing up in the 90s drooling over all the new JDM cars at the time and then when I was finally able to drive in the mid 2000s, they were all either discontinued or very boring. It was extremely disappointing! Me being more of a Nissan fan boy, I gained so much hope when the FR-S / BRZ was announced. It was a breathe of fresh air to see a new rwd car that was affordable and made for the enthusiast! I believe Toyota encouraged companies like Nissan, Mazda, Ford, Dodge, and Chevy to really go back into their roots and also gave every car enthusiast a light at the end of the tunnel! Great job Toyota 🫶

  • @niveketihw1897
    @niveketihw1897 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The markups on the new models around here are outrageous. $6K to $10K. Multiple dealerships trying to offer it for the same price as cars that objectively offer more.
    I owned a 2012 FR-S and loved the chassis. What I didn't like was the uninspiring engine and the door rattles.

  • @wraith2690
    @wraith2690 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I own a 2012 model, and upgraded lots of parts on it. I love it so much, it’s just a joy to drive.

  • @marselluswallace8129
    @marselluswallace8129 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love my 2023 BRZ ❤

  • @tkskagen
    @tkskagen ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I really miss the SCION branded vehicles...😢

    • @DmDetails
      @DmDetails ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The frs 🔥

  • @jetcitykitty
    @jetcitykitty ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've noticed that skills never match the car with most drivers, yet they still have an opinion on what's fast.

  • @Techcensorshipbot
    @Techcensorshipbot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the world "almost" was supposed to be in the title.. perhaps?

  • @lukasbambuch4811
    @lukasbambuch4811 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Funny how we didn't get to know how the world's greatest sports car got cancelled...

    • @user-sj8oy8oi4r
      @user-sj8oy8oi4r ปีที่แล้ว

      It's because the Miata has never been cancelled

  • @Mr_Hillbilly_weeb
    @Mr_Hillbilly_weeb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    World's greatest sports car these cars were a disgrace to call sports car let alone the greatest

  • @carspottervincent
    @carspottervincent ปีที่แล้ว +1

    and you now also have the supra Allen a few years ago, it is a pity that they are BMW motors

  • @matthewstapleford7774
    @matthewstapleford7774 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 13 FRS, loved it, traded it in for a new GR86. The new car is even better.

  • @Crush0819
    @Crush0819 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ft-hs ? Or our Supra in 2023🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @Victic005
    @Victic005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh hell, they just slap an engine off the Subaru parts bin

  • @DeweyWRX
    @DeweyWRX ปีที่แล้ว

    I see Kevin Vo losing his ass at Mid Ohio a couple years ago at 8:37 lol.

  • @Swapp_Shop
    @Swapp_Shop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have bought one of these cars but I don’t like Subaru motors. I want a Toyota sports car with a Toyota motor

  • @alansoler2653
    @alansoler2653 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Trav, your video was FIYA bro!!!

  • @EddieChoii
    @EddieChoii ปีที่แล้ว

    This car used to be my favorite I even own two but I’m not a fan after so many people buy them and riced them out it’s too common now

  • @joshuatam8975
    @joshuatam8975 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    nice video, but didnt you guys say it was slow af

    • @IdealMediaChannel
      @IdealMediaChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They are sort of slow. But that doesn't mean it's not excellent!

    • @Pucknuckle
      @Pucknuckle ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's more about driving feel and handling rather than horsepower and acceleration. The AE86 it was based on wasn't exactly fast either. Miatas were also slow af. These cars became cult classics for a reason, and that reason was not speed.
      As they always say - it's much more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow.

    • @Mach5Johnny
      @Mach5Johnny ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As an owner of a Toyobaru. Yes they aren’t the fastest… in straight lines…. Were they lack in straight line speeds, they make up for it in agility!

    • @user-sk4wf3ve6z
      @user-sk4wf3ve6z ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mach5Johnny I turbocharged my toyobaru and to be honest,I actually liked it more without the turbo,not for normal driving but for revving it to the max on twisty roads,it's just fun and that's what people don't get

    • @shuruff904
      @shuruff904 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-sk4wf3ve6z not the twistys!!! 😲

  • @JeffOfTheMountains
    @JeffOfTheMountains ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Speaking of Toyota, they're bringing back the Land Cruiser for 2024!

    • @OOICU812
      @OOICU812 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine how much one will cost tho.

  • @AngelLopez-hc2df
    @AngelLopez-hc2df ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤ Toyota Corolla GR ❤️
    Bean's motor 4 cylinder would have been amazing in gr lineup.

  • @littlefire47
    @littlefire47 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nani, kansei dorifto

  • @curlAlldizzle05
    @curlAlldizzle05 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alas, I figured they wouldn't last... 😔 they did good holding it down for coupes but, fizzled out like the rest.

  • @MiataPreludes
    @MiataPreludes ปีที่แล้ว +2

    another banger just like always!

  • @yamoisredeemed
    @yamoisredeemed ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes cancel it! Bring down the price and keep bashing on it so I can afford it :) thank you for the video

  • @solocamo3654
    @solocamo3654 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always liked the concept, but they are just too weak. At least the newer model fixed that a bit. Yes, yes, I know, but if you daily one of these you know what I mean.

  • @khaosking2937
    @khaosking2937 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every corvette before the C6 would like to have a word.

  • @zsb707
    @zsb707 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Toyota tried to become hot and sexy by borrowing some DNA from Subaru and BMW ...

    • @shuruff904
      @shuruff904 ปีที่แล้ว

      and so did you with this comment, not realizing how car companies partner all the time to make great vehicles

  • @dailydrivenmiata
    @dailydrivenmiata ปีที่แล้ว

    Toyota 86 is the brother of the miata. Without it, the sportscar market would be different

    • @OOICU812
      @OOICU812 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cousin at best.

  • @user-sj8oy8oi4r
    @user-sj8oy8oi4r ปีที่แล้ว

    Im confused, they never cancelled the miata?

  • @EnomesSkate
    @EnomesSkate ปีที่แล้ว

    No one gonna talk about how the FTH looks like a Mk. 5?

    • @NXT_LVL
      @NXT_LVL ปีที่แล้ว

      you mean Z4

  • @parsaalinaghizadeh7504
    @parsaalinaghizadeh7504 ปีที่แล้ว

    all i had to say is
    Initial d - takume - AE86

  • @petersmet2334
    @petersmet2334 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whel sorry butt I have all tre corevettes except the new c 8 butt the problem is over here at Belgium it is not yet listed butt I am already on the list when he comes in our country 😊

  • @hitokiri5837
    @hitokiri5837 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Ultimate Grocery Getter

  • @neild3074
    @neild3074 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most satisfying thing about a Toyota sports car is the Toyota engine. If it doesn't have that it is just a rebadged Subaru or BMW.

    • @shuruff904
      @shuruff904 ปีที่แล้ว

      so the Taurus SHO sucks because it has a Yamaha engine?? or the Audi R8/Lambo V-10? I could go on forever...people like you are just ill-informed or plain ignorant

  • @lordalmighty7323
    @lordalmighty7323 ปีที่แล้ว

    Theses three cars are basic as AF, They still don’t live up to the hay day of the Toyota supra, the Toyota, Celica, GT four, or even the LFA, finally Toyota is listening and make it a change and not just taking your money baking, making reliable, but mid cars

  • @amoghmadiwale2397
    @amoghmadiwale2397 ปีที่แล้ว

    According to Technological and design prospective I still find old AE86 is more Sexier than New. Old ones don't have curves but it still have the Character. New one is Just Copy paste . How they can Copy design for such a Iconic Car.? But they Did...

    • @shuruff904
      @shuruff904 ปีที่แล้ว

      at least they had the balls to make it
      what are you on about??? any Japanese rear wheel drive is a rare thing now, don't complain and be part of the problem. you own a front wheel drive Honda prolly

  • @IdealCarsOfficial
    @IdealCarsOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥!
    This right here is an IDEAL video! We want more!

  • @sheldoncooper8199
    @sheldoncooper8199 ปีที่แล้ว

    F*** the The 86. The FT-1 would ve been the Greatest BUT there are RUMORS Lexus is making a New LFA in 2024 called LF-R

  • @DugEphresh
    @DugEphresh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LMAO, your site intro makes me want to quit your site.
    Nevermind, it sucks. The Cressida was a sweet 4 door Supra. Good luck!

  • @CC-bw7im
    @CC-bw7im ปีที่แล้ว

    The cars basically a modernized Miata

  • @onevilage888
    @onevilage888 ปีที่แล้ว

    right now we know we must hes been tryna to get more of the shots? like i dont i ever think about not one but not 6 problems we use when we go pro 9 in the toyota camry r32 M sport MMG turbo engine racing fast ehxhaust blue flames we see it is fast! it a happy day for us. we hope we cant visited it again, we love them. they love myself too. we happy. you happy. we happy together to be here. what we know is we know about it anymore anytime son

    • @shuruff904
      @shuruff904 ปีที่แล้ว

      wtf does this even mean??? You sound like a non-English speaking, Chinese AI

  • @RN-fx3zl
    @RN-fx3zl ปีที่แล้ว

    Toyotas have always been pricey though

  • @itzyaboybugz
    @itzyaboybugz ปีที่แล้ว

    I leased one new in 16’ (FRS)
    Looked cool but was so
    Slow even modded
    It was good time
    Handled great
    But boy it needed turbo

  • @magikahn
    @magikahn ปีที่แล้ว

    Toyobaru!

  • @amondavis
    @amondavis ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm wondering what happened to 86, FRS, Brz and the GT car. Why didn't you talk about that GT one?

  • @EB720S
    @EB720S ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro seriously world best sport car that's a big claim for a Toyota or should i say a subaru

    • @zsb707
      @zsb707 ปีที่แล้ว

      Toyobaru 😊

    • @shuruff904
      @shuruff904 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mercedes and Porsche would like to have a word with Ideal lol

  • @R19Robbin
    @R19Robbin ปีที่แล้ว

    It's slow but fun 👌

  • @thisguysnameismatt4460
    @thisguysnameismatt4460 ปีที่แล้ว

    They had the look but the performance could be beat by a turd.....js

  • @junkazama7922
    @junkazama7922 ปีที่แล้ว

    Garbage boxer engine is an utter failure. At least the miatas engine is reliable. Next time work with honda and get a proper k20 motor.

  • @QuardCSGO
    @QuardCSGO ปีที่แล้ว +1

    whaaaat

  • @fqeagles21
    @fqeagles21 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greatest what??😂😂

  • @eikbolha5883
    @eikbolha5883 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh yes still dont have money to buy any of those and im working for company wich makes parts for cars like Porsche BMW Benz Audi Volvo and soo moreeee others polus woking 12 hour shifts and im quality inspection still have no money to buy shit cuz payment is trash i love democracy you as well let me know.

  • @dyaanahmad5079
    @dyaanahmad5079 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sup

  • @_BACONSSSSSSSSSSSSS
    @_BACONSSSSSSSSSSSSS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first

  • @gordonb8052
    @gordonb8052 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toyota got screwed over by Subaru with the failed boxer engine.

  • @DmDetails
    @DmDetails ปีที่แล้ว

    Toyota wildin