Imagine a Honda del sol type r. Or an S2000 type r. That would've been cool somehow. Maybe now we would've been talking a different story on miata's and BMW Z4. I love that sedan Civic type R
@@atlegangletsoge6165 At the time the NSX was gonna be the only car called the type r but producing the Ek9 they thought type R sounded cooler so they used type R intead of Si-R
@@atlegangletsoge6165 and also the Del sol was already a Si-R in 1991 but didnt release until 1992 in Japan so thats another reason why it wasnt the type R
Very well done Ideal Media. I Loved this episode. As a proud FK8 Honda Civic Type R owner, driving it you can tell it was made to be something special for people who are passionate about making cars.
Since this is a US focused channel, the FD2 gets forgotten, as usual, and the FK2 isn't well known either. Especially weird, since the FK2 made 310 metric HP, the FK8 made the same 310 HP in the US, 320 pretty much everywhere else.
To be honest Honda has a dirty little secret is the first generation tsx bc this cars are type r k24 dtune from the factory this the first type r in America
Good video and not to nitpick but missed out on the FD2 which is an absolute beast of a Civic and shared time frame with the FN2 (Europe only or sold as Euro R elsewhere). Also in the list of EP3+, the FK2(R) was the first turbocharged Type R, not the FK8. Still enjoyed the video! 👍
i know this is a honda video mostly but i'm mentioning it because acura is also part of honda and they had some type r lineage too but you could have added that the db8 chassis which was the 3rd gen integra sedan was also offered in type r flavor just like its smaller dc2 sibling, but nobody ever talks about it because it never came to the us just like the ek9 civic type r. but it is still worth mentioning
Come on guys. There is so much wrong info in this clip. -6.39 This is a Second gen Integra and not a 3th gen. -7.09 This is a 5the gen Civic and not a 6the gen. -All Civic Type R's after the FN2 are Turbo charged. The FK2 was also Turbo charged. -In Europe there was not such a thing as a Accord Euro R. In Europe we've got the Accord Type R. The Euro R was for sale in Japan.
It never needed to exist as a FWD, since there were more practical offerings in the Civic and Integra, and subjectively les appealing than either. If it were RWD it probably would have been much more popular to enthusiasts.
600hp nsx type s stock? Cmon now I would snatch that from factory if I could not to mention the new j series engine j35y8 that pumps out 285 to the crank and 260 to the wheel inside the new awd pilot. And the updated j30 that's inside most of the acura line up currently.
I have a great respect for Honda, but we all must admit these specs are not so revolutionary. For example, Alfa Romeo hat a 147/156 GTA with fwd and 250 hp engine and advanced suspension. Renaul had a Renaul Sport division with Clio and Megane RS. They delivered impressive numbers as well. Too bad for NSX that didnt have more power, because it would be a decent competitor of Ferraris that time
Much heavier and V6 engine. Also the Megane RS came much later in 2004 and was very heavy and made the same 0-60 time with much more power. Then there are the not mesurable factors which you can only understand once you have driven those different cars, hondas are much more sharper and had much better chassis. The reason why people loved to boost honda engines for track use are not just the engine, the chassie is also totally over engineered and could handle 3x the standard power without any issue, it was that rigid, something Honda put a lot of priority on and you even feel when you drive their standard cars.
@@binskee677 perfectly said. as just im abt to say.... eventhough im not a honda fans, but simply "power" or even written HP by the manufacturer, Is not everything. Top power might be achievable on certain rpms, but how abt the rest? the video even said more broad midrange power. This is the one hard to achieve, ALL POWER ACROSS RPMS. And also belive it or not chassis one of the factor that tells you the fastest time on the track. ive try driven my friend mitshubishi outlander 140 something hp. It was decend at highway, but it has one big downside. After crossing speed bump slowly, try to hit the gas fully, it has VERY BIG LAG. Eventhough its NA. Weird right? So it has very small HP at lower rpm. This have been outlooked sometimes by people
No hatin here! Honda is awesome drove some fur years! But the 2022 Type R vs Elantra N. The N has the type R by the balls at the track. True story. But we’ll see if Hyundai kind of new comer can keep up with Honda’s R&D which was entrenched in all kinds of Motorsports. Can Hyundai topple the king of the hill?! That remains to be seen. But Hyundai’s on the right track. It’s gonna be fun for us!!
There in no 22 type r. It's a 23. The hyundai isn't even in the same league on track as a fl5. Every single video and track test has it way back in the pack. Even the kona n is faster on track then then elentra.
@@justinhale2160 well someone hasn’t been keeping up with all the FIA WTCR Elantra N winning season? No sign of Honda or Subaru winning the manufacturers cup? They all participate, including other manufacturers. TCR in Japan was won by the Elantra N there. I could go on but look it up yourself.
You need to go back and re make it as you got it wrong with FK2! FK2 was the first turbo charged Type R. Not FK8! Yes in USA FK8 was the first turbo, but you talk about worldwide. So FK2 was the first TURBO! I know… I got one.
Yeah 1500 81 Honda unleashed with a 30 dollar coil blizzacks and exuast free UP it molly whopped a all chrome BLOWN 971 572CU INCH got destroyed Friday night lamare square Denver U GOT BEAT CHEVY 😂
Not as illegal as all the ratty Honda drivers tailgating the F! outta everyone. FLYIN at 87mph in a 35. Liquid Black ink tint. Almost gives old (and newer) Altima drivers a run for their money.
It's not cheating, its honda power stroke babe, get smoke but don't hate...it show that sometimes the biggest is not the badess 😂, watch for the little guy😂😂😂 don't get smoke
Guarantee I spend alot more time sideways with lift oversteer in my fwd Hondas than you ever dreamed of with your rwd and on a touge I am a killer follow me and you will crash or I will loose you period
The DC2 Integra Type R is just iconic. That gorgeous symphony of sound from that VTec engine never fails to put a smile to your face.
Imagine a Honda del sol type r. Or an S2000 type r. That would've been cool somehow. Maybe now we would've been talking a different story on miata's and BMW Z4. I love that sedan Civic type R
Well.. the del sol was out before "type r" was a thing. So there was the Del sol Si-R. Basically the same thing. Euro: VTI
American: VTEC
@@callmetimmy3004 but I thought the type r started with the NSX, which came before the Del Sol...?
@@atlegangletsoge6165 At the time the NSX was gonna be the only car called the type r but producing the Ek9 they thought type R sounded cooler so they used type R intead of Si-R
@@atlegangletsoge6165 and also the Del sol was already a Si-R in 1991 but didnt release until 1992 in Japan so thats another reason why it wasnt the type R
Civic type-R is a hatchback
Very well done Ideal Media. I Loved this episode. As a proud FK8 Honda Civic Type R owner, driving it you can tell it was made to be something special for people who are passionate about making cars.
That’s why I wanted a Honda Civic Type R since they came out with new ones 7 years ago
i have been a honda guy, since 1986, bought the 1st Civic Si👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Vtec just kicked in yo
Thanks for the mention 🙌
It’s even faster now 🙌🙌🙌
So can people stop hating on the honda brand now ? 🙄
Gp2 engines😂😂
There will always be douche bags that don't have a clue, and just because of Fwd.
I love NSC but can't stand the Honda Civic Type R😂😂
@@fqeagles21nsx?
@@sufianshahid3690 yeah i've typed It wrong my bad
8:26 - (mentioned every civic type R except for the FD2)
i noticed too, also forgot to mention that the fk2 was the first turbo ctr not the fk8
Since this is a US focused channel, the FD2 gets forgotten, as usual, and the FK2 isn't well known either. Especially weird, since the FK2 made 310 metric HP, the FK8 made the same 310 HP in the US, 320 pretty much everywhere else.
you forgot to mention FD2 (yet it already showed in this video) , its actually peak NA FWD Honda, and still underrated for western audiences
To be honest Honda has a dirty little secret is the first generation tsx bc this cars are type r k24 dtune from the factory this the first type r in America
2:14 why is this clip so out of place for this video?
That's why I have a 98 Integra B18C Type R swap in my 93 civic hatch.....vtec kicked in yo!! .....never gets old.
Fun fact in Europe division for Honda made Honda accord Type R but later changed it and called it the Euro R
Good video and not to nitpick but missed out on the FD2 which is an absolute beast of a Civic and shared time frame with the FN2 (Europe only or sold as Euro R elsewhere).
Also in the list of EP3+, the FK2(R) was the first turbocharged Type R, not the FK8.
Still enjoyed the video! 👍
Thanks for watching!
@@IdealMediaChannel Thanks for taking your time to make it, was really good content!
And equally, thanks for the reply. :)
Do your research! This is a fifth generation Civic shown at 7:08
Guys in Porsches, Evos and other supercars would shit in their pants when I arrived in my little EK9
i know this is a honda video mostly but i'm mentioning it because acura is also part of honda and they had some type r lineage too but you could have added that the db8 chassis which was the 3rd gen integra sedan was also offered in type r flavor just like its smaller dc2 sibling, but nobody ever talks about it because it never came to the us just like the ek9 civic type r. but it is still worth mentioning
The honda NSX with veilside body kit is so so amazing lookin so beautiful
They showed the EG and DA as the models they based the EK Civic Type R and DC Integra Type R off of 😂
Type R badging is much like M-series for BMW... it WAS a special thing, but now its mostly cosmetic package for $25k
Like the type R and the veloster N
I wish I could help out remotely in your channels editing department......thanks for posting this.
Exceptional Honda ideas
FK2 was the first Turbo Type R Civic.
Only Honda I’ll ever touch is a plan black Civic . With pitch black tint and green under glow.
I'd love to lay my hands on a Civic Type R. I've never seen it here in Nigeria.
Cars need roads
@@MrAuhue I advise you to come to visit Nigeria, thank me later😉
Do they even sell high octane gasoline in Nigeria?
@@williamcricket7931😭😭😭😭
Come on guys. There is so much wrong info in this clip.
-6.39 This is a Second gen Integra and not a 3th gen.
-7.09 This is a 5the gen Civic and not a 6the gen.
-All Civic Type R's after the FN2 are Turbo charged. The FK2 was also Turbo charged.
-In Europe there was not such a thing as a Accord Euro R. In Europe we've got the Accord Type R. The Euro R was for sale in Japan.
Wasn't Renault running there cars stripped out to get faster times ! No one seems to mention that !🤔
My dream car is fk8 type r red 😢❤
@josephgabriel5942 thank you bro ❤️
The prelude should have been a rwd still.
It never needed to exist as a FWD, since there were more practical offerings in the Civic and Integra, and subjectively les appealing than either. If it were RWD it probably would have been much more popular to enthusiasts.
HOLLYWOOD OR SOMEBODY SHOULD MAKE MOVIES ABOUT THIS….
600hp nsx type s stock? Cmon now I would snatch that from factory if I could not to mention the new j series engine j35y8 that pumps out 285 to the crank and 260 to the wheel inside the new awd pilot. And the updated j30 that's inside most of the acura line up currently.
Nothing Honda has ever made internet me. Other companies have just done better
owner euro r here🤙🏼
Accord,85,87leather,93sation wagon &d sedan same color
FD2 in my opinion was the best type r.
I have a great respect for Honda, but we all must admit these specs are not so revolutionary. For example, Alfa Romeo hat a 147/156 GTA with fwd and 250 hp engine and advanced suspension. Renaul had a Renaul Sport division with Clio and Megane RS. They delivered impressive numbers as well. Too bad for NSX that didnt have more power, because it would be a decent competitor of Ferraris that time
Much heavier and V6 engine. Also the Megane RS came much later in 2004 and was very heavy and made the same 0-60 time with much more power. Then there are the not mesurable factors which you can only understand once you have driven those different cars, hondas are much more sharper and had much better chassis. The reason why people loved to boost honda engines for track use are not just the engine, the chassie is also totally over engineered and could handle 3x the standard power without any issue, it was that rigid, something Honda put a lot of priority on and you even feel when you drive their standard cars.
@@binskee677 exactly and then we dont mention the bad reliability of french and italian cars.
Stuck on a deserted island with only one engine? It better be a Honda, fun and dependable too.
Honda will indeed last longer than Alfaromeo and Renault, on the track and off the track too
@@binskee677 perfectly said. as just im abt to say.... eventhough im not a honda fans, but simply "power" or even written HP by the manufacturer, Is not everything. Top power might be achievable on certain rpms, but how abt the rest?
the video even said more broad midrange power. This is the one hard to achieve, ALL POWER ACROSS RPMS. And also belive it or not chassis one of the factor that tells you the fastest time on the track.
ive try driven my friend mitshubishi outlander 140 something hp. It was decend at highway, but it has one big downside. After crossing speed bump slowly, try to hit the gas fully, it has VERY BIG LAG. Eventhough its NA. Weird right? So it has very small HP at lower rpm. This have been outlooked sometimes by people
No war Honda runs the k24 5'86 243mph 1/4
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I agree.
But the uglyness performance of the last two decades is even more powerful, real shame.
RSX POWWWWWEERRR
EV's is killing all tune up and modified car..hate ev..
No hatin here! Honda is awesome drove some fur years! But the 2022 Type R vs Elantra N. The N has the type R by the balls at the track. True story. But we’ll see if Hyundai kind of new comer can keep up with Honda’s R&D which was entrenched in all kinds of Motorsports. Can Hyundai topple the king of the hill?! That remains to be seen. But Hyundai’s on the right track. It’s gonna be fun for us!!
Hyundai😂
@@van_der_lindeDA yep Hyundai🤫😉👍🏻
There in no 22 type r. It's a 23. The hyundai isn't even in the same league on track as a fl5. Every single video and track test has it way back in the pack. Even the kona n is faster on track then then elentra.
@@justinhale2160 well someone hasn’t been keeping up with all the FIA WTCR Elantra N winning season? No sign of Honda or Subaru winning the manufacturers cup? They all participate, including other manufacturers. TCR in Japan was won by the Elantra N there. I could go on but look it up yourself.
@@anthonylove6639 honda was focusing on F1
I have a honda fk8 type r....top😮😅😊
You need to go back and re make it as you got it wrong with FK2! FK2 was the first turbo charged Type R. Not FK8! Yes in USA FK8 was the first turbo, but you talk about worldwide. So FK2 was the first TURBO! I know… I got one.
I found 2 wrongs
can you buy me a car?
first
Yeah 1500 81 Honda unleashed with a 30 dollar coil blizzacks and exuast free UP it molly whopped a all chrome BLOWN 971 572CU INCH got destroyed Friday night lamare square Denver U GOT BEAT CHEVY 😂
Not as illegal as all the ratty Honda drivers tailgating the F! outta everyone. FLYIN at 87mph in a 35. Liquid Black ink tint. Almost gives old (and newer) Altima drivers a run for their money.
Eww front wheel drive
it's a FWD .. so, i'll pass
It's not cheating, its honda power stroke babe, get smoke but don't hate...it show that sometimes the biggest is not the badess 😂, watch for the little guy😂😂😂 don't get smoke
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The 90’s was Honda’s golden age because everything else sucked and only old people, hairdressers drove Miatas.
second lol
Front wheel drive. For women...
Guarantee I spend alot more time sideways with lift oversteer in my fwd Hondas than you ever dreamed of with your rwd and on a touge I am a killer follow me and you will crash or I will loose you period
Civic type r is faster around the nurburgring than a 2009 gtr with half the power and fwd it is the best handling car on earth you realize that right?
It is faster than a lotus despite half the power to weight ratio by alot like 30 seconds
Your lady in passenger seat