History of WWI Primer 046: British Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield Documentary

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    Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
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  • @jaredkennedy2555
    @jaredkennedy2555 7 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    one does not simply go to bed once c&rsenal has posted.

    • @woobyvr9654
      @woobyvr9654 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jared Kennedy agreed

    • @NeptuneBluez
      @NeptuneBluez 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jared Kennedy I agree as well.

    • @sugarnads
      @sugarnads 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neptune Bluez notwithstanding the sheer interest, sometimes needs must.

    • @troyp467
      @troyp467 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I actually made myself but it was really tempting to watch it right away.

    • @mugwump58
      @mugwump58 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm watching again because I fell asleep on the couch. LOL

  • @JustaMuteCat
    @JustaMuteCat ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The smile on Mae’s face when she runs the guns in the range sections of each video is gold.

  • @IJX89
    @IJX89 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Awesome video! You guys do a great job!
    A couple fun facts my grandfather told me a about the SMLE, he was a Korean War veteran which was the last war Australia used the SMLE in as a main battle rifle (besides the Malayan Conflict circa late 1950s). Later he was an infantry instructor back here in Australia and discharged when the Australian Army adopted the SLR. So that's where this information comes from:
    The rear locking action and rear position of the bolt handle is intentionally designed to ensure your hand ends up where your trigger finger (which is your middle finger when carrying out proper drills of the time) lines up with the trigger while your thumb and index finger remain on the bolt, in combination with the short action bolt so you don't have to break your line of sight when cycling the bolt) is why it was able to be fired so fast and accurately.
    Despite the original purpose of the 2 stage trigger most likely being an added safety feature, the Australian Army capitalised on it being usable as a feature to increase marksmanship capabilities, in accordance with their training and drills, hence why they kept the magazine cutoff and the complex sight arrangements.
    Even though the trench warfare made these features largely irrelevant, the other theatres of war that Australia fought in during WW1 and prior (Middle East, Pacific, etc) they were useful. A lot of the Australian thinking into the Lithgow rifles were more centered around mobility and open country warfare as in defence of Australia itself.
    He also told me that a majority of Australian soldiers throughout the history of using the SMLE use to carry a set of snips to cut the tips of their jacketed rounds off in their down time between patrols and other tasks in order to create a bullet that would mushroom out on impact.

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Don't tell the Germans that last one....

    • @IJX89
      @IJX89 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think we could all agree to call it even.

    • @IJX89
      @IJX89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@23GreyFox even in the sense that everyone did unorthodox stuff to cause as much harm to the other side... as is in war.

    • @23GreyFox
      @23GreyFox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@IJX89 After all those French and British actions, germany had no choice to respond. Gas warfare (after France used gas first) or that so called "unrestricted submarine warfare" (after British Q-ships). Germany would never do something like using civil ships as shield for military cargo (Lusitania).

    • @IJX89
      @IJX89 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@23GreyFox
      1- The first gas attack was conducted by Germany using phosgene-chlorine gas in December 1915.
      2- Everyone did questionable shit in war. Germany routinely punished (typically by execution) entire towns of Belgians because someone blew up a bridge nearby to hinder their way. Sure the western propaganda mills ran with it, but the Germans weren't hiding their targeted killing of civilians, they were openly advertising that they were going to collectively punish anyone who hindered their war effort, it was a warning.
      To sit there and say "oh poor Germany didn't have a choice they never would have done such a thing it was all the devilish French and British" like come on man... everyone did shady shit in every war ever. You don't win wars by playing by the rules.

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder4376 7 ปีที่แล้ว +652

    1:15:09 "But it has been covered by another popular religious icon."
    Praise be to Gun Jesus.

    • @aprichnik1044
      @aprichnik1044 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nicholas Mew No, Allah

    • @eric3844
      @eric3844 7 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      He is the way and the light.
      Except occasionally the light is muzzle flash.

    • @GerackSerack
      @GerackSerack 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Someone to hear your prayers
      Someone who's there

    • @opraners
      @opraners 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Feels awkward knowing that reference.

    • @HarrysHouseChannel
      @HarrysHouseChannel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Jesus McCollum

  • @gchampi2
    @gchampi2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    The SMLE. Whenever I see a forum discussion advocating the SMLE as "Tha Best Evaaahhh!!!1!", or "Tha PERFECT rifle!!i!", I smile, and remember my grandad. He was called up in '43 (straight out of school), landed in normandy on the 10th june & spent the rest of the war fixing trucks, tanks & anything else mechanical. He wasn't a frontline guy, but he did his bit making sure the frontline guys had all the toys they needed, all while his issued SMLE was readily to hand. Post war, he became a highly respected machinist in Coventry - his claim to fame was being one of the team who machined the first brake discs to win the LeMans 24Hr...
    He taught me something that has stuck with me to this day - "Perfection is the Enemy of Good Enough".
    The SMLE is the epitome of this phrase. It wasn't the best rifle of WW1. Many were more advanced/accurate/ergonomic/whatever. What the SMLE was, was "Good Enough". It could survive being dropped into mud, it could reliably fire ammo of dubious specification, and in context, it could send twice the lead downrange than any opposing rifle before reloading...
    Was the SMLE the perfect battle rifle? No.
    Was the SMLE the epitome of a "Good Enough" battle rifle? Yes. Two world wars as a main-line battle rifle, and an 86 year service life for it and its derivatives really cannot be argued with...

    • @grayflaneur4854
      @grayflaneur4854 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      gchampi2 - Sounds to me like you have just described the bolt action equivalent of the AK-47. In the end, durable and good enough.

    • @DLBBALL
      @DLBBALL 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I still question why the British still never got the Farquhar-Hill into mass production post WW1. They would've had a fairly good SLR about 30 years earlier than the rest of the world.

    • @Grimmtoof
      @Grimmtoof 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dude Lmao Probably a case of 'The rifle we have works fine and now the war's over we don't have the money to waste and fancy toys.'

    • @grizzlyadams3021
      @grizzlyadams3021 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      gchampi2 SMLE is certainly an utterly fantastic rifle in it's own right. Anyone who loves firearms the SMLE definitely has a special place in our hearts. Guns are like people, dont ever think you're the absolute best, that something better isn't out there, but make no mistake, though you may lose some battles, you're going to win some too! My grandfather had a similar role in WWII it sounds. He was drafted in the U.S. Army in 1942, served with the 5th Army front lines in north Arfrica, Sicily, Italy, fought at Salerno and Anzio, his MOS was officially Laundry Mechanic, meaning he had to keep the whole damn company up and running, fixed utilities, trucks, guns, at one point did something to a few tanks, construction equipment etc AND hit the front lines with his M1. I wish I knew more about him but there was very very little he ever would talk about and he told me he burnt and destroyed everything from the war when he got home. He had nightmares and flashbacks the rest of his life.

    • @jackandersen1262
      @jackandersen1262 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude Lmao I heard that the reason was that the autoloading rifle didn’t really fit into British doctrine at the time (who at the end of WW1 heavily favored machine guns and hand grenades).

  • @Murray.Sutherland
    @Murray.Sutherland 7 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    OMG, a movie length smle doco! You must be absolutely buggered. Well done!

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  7 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      It has been... a trial

    • @Murray.Sutherland
      @Murray.Sutherland 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      C&Rsenal Character building as they say ;) but sshh I'm still watching!

    • @bradrugg8705
      @bradrugg8705 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      C&Rsenal we all love you for it thanks guys!

    • @Nebulax123
      @Nebulax123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello maybe relation. LOL I am Bruce Rugg

  • @aurorawhorealis
    @aurorawhorealis 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I apologize for the hell we put you through Othias, we don't deserve your incredible hard work and devotion. To the whole team, thank y'all. I'm glad you no longer have to dread The What Now

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Don't worry, plenty more to dread!

  • @kkloikok
    @kkloikok 5 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    "woah these are British people and you're not letting them vote... That's messed up man"
    -America, c.1776

    • @keithorbell8946
      @keithorbell8946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Andrew ahem, most British in Great Britain couldn’t vote in 1776, just saying 😉

    • @chrisbrent7487
      @chrisbrent7487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Most Americans after the revolution couldn’t vote. It was the same as in Britain where only land owners and important people could.

    • @sumvs5992
      @sumvs5992 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@chrisbrent7487 yeah but the thinking behind owning land to be able to vote was because Thomas Jefferson though that if voters had something to lose, they would vote in a smart manner.

  • @GJ203
    @GJ203 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I can't understand how anyone could not like the SMLE. Look at that nose-cap, it's so cute!

    • @M81_WOODLAND
      @M81_WOODLAND 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Looks so much better than the No. 4.

    • @campfortson4387
      @campfortson4387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      for once, the more common gun is the prettier one.

    • @andrewshepherd1537
      @andrewshepherd1537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard Sootch00 call his Mr. Snufalufagus when referencing it in videos, and never understood the joke till I actually looked at one. Mr. Snufalufagus indeed lol

  • @SacoreyRugger
    @SacoreyRugger 7 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    "covered by another religious icon, hallowed be thy name" best quote yet

    • @cpage305
      @cpage305 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didnt get the reference

    • @SacoreyRugger
      @SacoreyRugger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cpage305 check out forgotten weapons

  • @TheIndianalain
    @TheIndianalain 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My hat off to Mae for handling those heavy and powerful rifles with such ease! And without ever losing her smile!

  • @gamesbok
    @gamesbok 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Naming Of Parts - Poem by Henry Reed
    Today we have naming of parts. Yesterday,
    We had daily cleaning. And tomorrow morning,
    We shall have what to do after firing. But today,
    Today we have naming of parts. Japonica
    Glistens like coral in all the neighboring gardens,
    And today we have naming of parts.
    This is the lower sling swivel. And this
    Is the upper sling swivel, whose use you will see,
    When you are given your slings. And this is the piling swivel,
    Which in your case you have not got. The branches
    Hold in the gardens their silent, eloquent gestures,
    Which in our case we have not got.
    This is the safety-catch, which is always released
    With an easy flick of the thumb. And please do not let me
    See anyone using his finger. You can do it quite easy
    If you have any strength in your thumb. The blossoms
    Are fragile and motionless, never letting anyone see
    Any of them using their finger.
    And this you can see is the bolt. The purpose of this
    Is to open the breech, as you see. We can slide it
    Rapidly backwards and forwards: we call this
    Easing the spring. And rapidly backwards and forwards
    The early bees are assaulting and fumbling the flowers:
    They call it easing the Spring.
    They call it easing the Spring: it is perfectly easy
    If you have any strength in your thumb: like the bolt,
    And the breech, the cocking-piece, and the point of balance,
    Which in our case we have not got; and the almond blossom
    Silent in all of the gardens and the bees going backwards and forwards,
    For today we have the naming of parts.
    Henry Reed
    Talking about features carried over, the MkIII has windage adjustment, and the right sight protector is stepped out to make room. The MkIII* has no windage adjustment, but the right sight protector is still stepped.
    The Mk7 ammunition has an unbalanced core. It will fly straight, but topple at the slightest touch. it's as damaging as it could be within Hague convention.

  • @Warpedtau
    @Warpedtau 7 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    1:04:11 Seems like there is a bit of weird double audio going on.

    • @JaguarSeraph
      @JaguarSeraph 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Seems like he grabbed the wrong take or forgot a section, because the doubled up audio you can hear him going "Oh." Like he looked over and saw that the video was cut differently when doing the VO.

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  7 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Yeah, it's a tail-end that got nudged and lost. At this point? I surrender. It's a 2 hour compile, 1 hour upload, and 1 hour process time just to push the corrected video and confuse everyone.

    • @JaguarSeraph
      @JaguarSeraph 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It happens. Just put it in the "goofs" section for the IMDB page for this doccu-movie.

    • @yogenmeister
      @yogenmeister 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      We forgive you. This is some quality content in any other standard.

    • @AntiAnathema
      @AntiAnathema 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So... its a feature?

  • @gordon9821
    @gordon9821 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These are some mammoth-size episodes. Amazing job, Othais and Mae!

  • @nicolesusans2388
    @nicolesusans2388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    About the rimmed cartridge. In 1888 the only military with a rimless cartridge was Germany, and they'd only adopted it that year. French had adopted the rimmed 8mm in 1887, A-H adopted it's 8x52mm rimmed in 1888 and replaced with the 8x50mm rimmed in 1893. The US adopted the rimmed 30 krag in 1892 and the semi rimmed 6mm Lee in 1895. The Russians adopted the 7.62mm mosin in 1891. The Romanians and Dutch the 6.5mm rimmed in 1892.
    Other than Italy and the ottomans in 1891, it was only "minor" powers such as Spain, Switzerland, Sweden, Norway and I think Brazil and Peru who adopted rimless before the turn of the century. And you can possibly debate if Italy and the Ottomans were all that major. The decision to make the 303 rimmed is really only a mistake with hindsight.

  • @courierdog1941
    @courierdog1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    British and Canadian Troops were issued with two Magazines per rifle, some people acquired two additional magazines which were stored in the Brest pockets of the Battle Blouse.

    • @TenaciousTrilobite
      @TenaciousTrilobite 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      During WWI? Do you have a source for that? Because that would be the first time I’ve heard anyone claim that. The spare mags were a Long Lee thing.

    • @SLON-sh2jg
      @SLON-sh2jg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TenaciousTrilobite There are some documents there about their issuance in 1917. I'm really not sure that they were not just in case the main one jammed (the dirt in the trenches was very problematic in this regard, that's why the 20-round was created in order to refill it less often, risking contaminate and jam).

    • @SLON-sh2jg
      @SLON-sh2jg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How many magazines were there for pre-charger Metford/Enfield then, and where were they kept? (I know that the magazine pouch existed then, but it was the rarest piece of real equipment)

  • @snowflakemelter1172
    @snowflakemelter1172 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The LE was specifically designed so that the bolt handle is right by your trigger , that's why the P14 bolt handle is cranked to get the same effect. You can fire the LE while your hand is still grasping the bolt and get rapid fire.

  • @jotjotpoland2696
    @jotjotpoland2696 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I slowly get the feeling that I watch your videos just to see the "War Were Declared" montage...

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's a lot of overhead.

  • @mattyallen3396
    @mattyallen3396 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the bestist videos on TH-cam

  • @vitkriklan2633
    @vitkriklan2633 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do have a G-serial No I MK III*, that basically is a MK III, but it misses the volley sight. It still has the cut in the stock for it and is otherways the old type.

  • @FirstStrikeSabre
    @FirstStrikeSabre 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watching again as I polish my boots for the Vimy Ridge Centennial parade.
    (I'm Canadian Army)
    You guys do awesome work.

  • @goshamus
    @goshamus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a great video. I learned a ton about my 1916 Lee-Enfield. Thank you!

  • @tiglu05
    @tiglu05 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressed - what good a shot is the little lady!

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, I love the nods toward other worthy TH-cam channels. Ian and Indy (and company) are also favorites.

  • @courierdog1941
    @courierdog1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The LeeEnfield is deigned to be continuously holder held and cocked (Mad Minute) Most of us in Canada Service are quite used to the Mad Minute, Note For the Real Mad Minute the additional loaded Magazine were used not stripper clips,

  • @milrevko
    @milrevko 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    A truly awesome show an hour and 40 minutes on the SMLE just doesn’t get better than that thanks keep up the good work keep line straight, Steady

  • @courierdog1941
    @courierdog1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The rear aperture Sights are one of the main improvements to the Number 4. The Bedding of the Number 4 was 2 & 8 at the fore stock. where as the SMLE was centre bedded which gave certain advantages are mid ranges, where the 2 & 8 was superior at longer ranges.

  • @TheSizzle06
    @TheSizzle06 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    😂 Othais, I thought you were going to pass out when that 3rd spot contention got going. Fantastic episode! Thank you all so much for your hard work and passion.

  • @bigghoss762
    @bigghoss762 7 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    WHATWHATWHAT?!? What do you mean the Lee-Enfield isn't the most bestest evar?!? RABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    • @baanimations3689
      @baanimations3689 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ENFIELD BESTFIELD AMIRITE? :)

    • @windogendoors7566
      @windogendoors7566 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      YOU ARE JUST MOUSER FANBOYS GRRRGRGRGRGRGRGRGRGRGR. rIMS R NOT A PROBLEM RGRGRGRGRGRGRGRGRGRGRG~Enfield fanboy

    • @clayh254
      @clayh254 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love both the Mauser and the Enfield, but I prefer the Enfield.

    • @trekaddict
      @trekaddict 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here. In a fight, I'd rather have the ten rounds.

    • @tybushnell9819
      @tybushnell9819 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just got a Lee Enfield and I’ve own a Mauser 1895 Chilean the same kind Mauser sold to the orange free state but instead this one went to Chili. Now that I’ve got a Mk 4, albeit it’s not quite like the earlier version I’m certain it’ll give me a feel for what Lee Enfield’s are all about. Maybe so as to compare with my Mauser.

  • @tombogan03884
    @tombogan03884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Were they working the sight forward because they were thinking about long eye relief ?

  • @pazukitsune260
    @pazukitsune260 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Happy .303 Day! (March 3rd, i'm trying to make this a thing xP). Thank you C&Rsenal for making such excellent, educational videos. channels like yours make youtube a better place. keep it up :)

  • @stevenhoman2253
    @stevenhoman2253 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    5 men with training and 50 rounds often made the germans think they were under machine gun fire, it doesnt need to be removed from the face when cocking, so the sight picture remains constant. try that with any other bolt action going back to say 1900.

  • @marceltimmers1290
    @marceltimmers1290 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi guys. Mae I absolutely totally love you, after my wife, that is( O; Thanks for a very informative episode about an icon. I had the fortune of owning two of these guns before I had to leave them behind in New Zealand. I personally did not like to load the weapon from the top. I always preferred to load the magazine by hand. When I had an UZI I also never used the loader that came with it. I liked to know that the cartridges were loaded in the proper way.

  • @maxiggy8069
    @maxiggy8069 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    literally refreshed the page all day for this. awesome episode!

  • @dscrappygolani7981
    @dscrappygolani7981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mae, try keeping the rifle on your shoulder while working the bolt; It's quicker and therefore more advantageous in practical terms. Although after Othias', explanation I must say I understand why you didn't.. thank you guys.. great work!

  • @wmdayman
    @wmdayman 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great seeing May shot these old beasts which I have a great love for.

  • @JackDo-lu8ux
    @JackDo-lu8ux 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    SMELLY TIME!!! ALL HAIL LORD OTHIAS AND THE RELIGION OF C&RSENAL!!!
    Jack the Korean History/Gun nut.
    P.S.) I've enlisted for service in the Navy and will be off to Boot Camp in April, wish me luck guys!

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Luck

    • @JackDo-lu8ux
      @JackDo-lu8ux 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks guys, I needed that!

    • @shilelea
      @shilelea 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      도형섭 may the demilitarized zone remain demilitarized and good luck

    • @thurin84
      @thurin84 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      korean? smooth or crunchy?

    • @JackDo-lu8ux
      @JackDo-lu8ux 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      milcoll73 I prefer Crunchy, you?

  • @courierdog1941
    @courierdog1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lowering a rifle to unload and load may be required for the Mauser type of rifle, however, it is not a safety procedure. The Mauser and Mosin Nagant, are just not comfortable rifle to manipulate the bolt, Where as the Lee Enfield is dead easy to run the bolt. and please note the real mad minute does not use the stripper clips, The real mad minute uses the two spare mags which are kept in the Brest pockets of the Battle Field Blouse. Dropping a mag and installing a full 10 shot mag is faster and easier than attempting the use of Stripper Clips.
    Also the British & Commonwealth forces issue the 303 ammunition in a box not bundled in stripper clips. Also please note using the rifle to load the mags is easier than attempting to load the Magazine by it self. We were taught to land and unload until our entire company could pass in total darkness. How else could the PPCLI hold off the Chinese waves in Korea. Like the Russian soldiers agains the NAZIs who drilled and drilled until they became proficient or died where they stood. My Grandfather was in the trenches during the first gas attack, along with Sikhs, Gurkhas, and First Nations soldiers like Francis Pegahmagabow. So yes rifle men like these stood firm and did not take one step back.

    • @TenaciousTrilobite
      @TenaciousTrilobite 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Again, source needed on the “real” Mad Minute using spare mags. And if anything, the SMLE action is more likely to be a safety concern than a late Mauser action. They take the safe approach on all rifles they come across, though.

  • @range24alberta
    @range24alberta 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for the work to put this togeather.

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching!

  • @51WCDodge
    @51WCDodge 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Odd bit- Cost of British or Commonwealth produced rifle in 1916, with bayonet £6 10/- or six and a half pounds Sterling, cost of an American licence built rifle £8 10/- ( For the youngsters, /- was the abbreavtion for Shilling , d for penny, a shillings plus pennies was Shilling first 2 followed by / followed by pennies) probably to much info , but if your into WW1 or WW2 useful to explain costs.

  • @taterporkchop
    @taterporkchop 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I could not be happier. The SMLE is my favorite WW1 long arm. I'm a fan of the Mosin Nagant, but it's just not as sexy. Thank you Mae and Othais. Did I say how happy I am?

  • @gunsbeersmemes
    @gunsbeersmemes 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally! Been waiting to drink some beers and watch the new episode after work one night. Tomorrow is that night

  • @PhuVet
    @PhuVet 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The navy wanted the magazine cutoff for line throwing. Ironically the US navy did too on the 03. I shot my first 03 when I was in rotc in college, on the AD41 USS Yellowstone.

  • @PLAYINGAROUND
    @PLAYINGAROUND 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff as usual you pair. Stumbled across your channel when I tripped over the Webley episode a few weeks ago and have been playing catch up since. In regards the Lee Enfield and its pros and cons, which all things have of course, perhaps it can be considered quite high up on the pros, which most folk would agree with I think. Anyway, my evidence? Mons 1914. Keep up the good work both. Cheers, Chris.

  • @HillbillyHades
    @HillbillyHades 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the hype train has reached the speed of light

  • @darrenpyper9689
    @darrenpyper9689 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting watching the video again and the Long Lee's....You missed a very important lesson from the boer war that influenced the SMLE part of the universal rifle idea IE (infantry & Cavalry) and that was the development of "Mounted Infantry" like the lighhorsemen of the Australian army.

  • @Gam20_
    @Gam20_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving these new animations, very good work!

  • @ronalddunne3413
    @ronalddunne3413 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta love the Lee Enfield in all it's 10-round incarnations. Partial to the #4 with it's peep-style rear sight. Much as I love the Mauser rifles, push-to-shove I'd carry the #4 if a bolt gun was all there was. The muj did damwell with their LE's.

  • @keithorbell8946
    @keithorbell8946 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Grenade launcher variant was used in the Malayan “Emergency” 1948-56/8. Very useful in a Jungle environment.

  • @Kasperl88
    @Kasperl88 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How much longer until we get 3 hour videos?

    • @pickeljarsforhillary102
      @pickeljarsforhillary102 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mosin episode.

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      No where near enough reliable information out there. Lots of the Mosin's early history is politicized and has been rehashed multiple ways.

    • @clayronso3932
      @clayronso3932 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1911 had a long development time with various models. Forgotten Weapons has shown all or just about all of the development versions before the final was accepted. Dont know if that can be stretched out to Lawrence of Arabia length though.

  • @Luso308
    @Luso308 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I must go to the doctor: I am always drooling while looking at steel and walnut.

  • @Zaaphod
    @Zaaphod 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Came home from work. All right, I am tired, I will just down this beer and off to bed.
    Holy shit, new episode of C&R Arsenal!
    Sleep is for weak!

  • @peoplehavetherights
    @peoplehavetherights 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely done. Not long-winded at all considering the tortuous development path. It was also in keeping with reality, as the Mk. I was known to be problematic loading by the Second Boer War.

  • @slowpokebr549
    @slowpokebr549 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the hard work Beardo.

  • @creanero
    @creanero 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hand, Pokey, Patented, Plastic - the British Army designation for the Patented Plastic Pokey Hand...

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hand, Pokey, Patented, Plastic for the designating of minute ephemera ~ Mark 2*

  • @wmdayman
    @wmdayman 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really appreciate your videos. Must be one of my favourite sites.

  • @Tomartyr
    @Tomartyr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone else have Verdun flashbacks at 34:58?
    Also I'm glad to finally have a song that properly expresses my feelings for cucumber.

  • @asherphillips5335
    @asherphillips5335 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    For Othias just to reinforce his argument for the issues a rimmed cartridge causes in the Enfield system I want to bring up or see it mentioned the old Indian Enfields made in the 60's chambered in 7.62x51NATO / .308 Winchester (check your headspace).
    These abandoned the rimmed cartridge and can be loaded with the same stripper clips the M14 could be and loads butter smooth in my experience, the older Enfields in .303 I at least noticed more issues with stripper clip loading and the newer Indian ones could fit 12 rounds of 7.62x51 instead of 10 that is seen in .303, I would figure due to the lack of the large rims.

  • @kevinsharpe9716
    @kevinsharpe9716 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very informative and very bold. It takes guts to talk about the cons of the rifle with the most toxic fan community in firearms history

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh we get hate mail

    • @kevinsharpe9716
      @kevinsharpe9716 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, I bet. To any SMLE fans that might see this, I'm not saying the rifle's bad. I'd probably use it, but in the same sense I'd use a Winchester. High capacity, rapid fire, medium to close range

  • @Gunsbeerfreedom87
    @Gunsbeerfreedom87 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm glad someone else can see what I've been saying about the Lee Enfield for about a year now; they aren't perfect and have some noticeable flaws compared to their contemporaries.

  • @seatravelers
    @seatravelers 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mauser isn't in the top 5? Great episode guys

    • @windogendoors7566
      @windogendoors7566 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      That WW1 98 Mauser be a long, heavy rifle with shitty sights.

  • @asphaltmemories4597
    @asphaltmemories4597 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not like I needed the sleep or anything.

  • @flyinglunchbox
    @flyinglunchbox 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've had numerous Enfields over the years. As of currently the only one I own is a 1918 NRF (National Rifle Factory) No.1 Mk.III*. Pretty interesting rifle seeing as it was produced via the failed dispersed manufacturing attempt known as the "peddle-scheme". I've actually taken it to 600yds and it holds about 20 to 30 inches with decent quality ammunition.

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Failed is a bit harsh, it did speed Enfield's final production a bit.

    • @flyinglunchbox
      @flyinglunchbox 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      C&Rsenal Indeed though only by ~200,000 and they were so behind schedule the war was nearly over when they were finally assembled. Which I suppose is nice seeing as my rifle saw little to no service.

  • @rebjimj.e.4119
    @rebjimj.e.4119 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your vids. Great knowledge. Very professional. i know a lot of this but you really lay it out nicely and add stuff many people don't know that is surprisingly relevant. Political factors i never considered. thank you!!!!

  • @TheNicoandyou
    @TheNicoandyou 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    lee enfield fan boy will freak out but just wait for the mosin episode

    • @maewinchester2030
      @maewinchester2030 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      J-P huard I'll try to be as unbiased as possible but I do love me some Mosin.

    • @samiam619
      @samiam619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maewinchester2030 Have you ever found a Moist Nugget that works as well as a Mauser? No? Didn’t think so…

  • @stevementis6512
    @stevementis6512 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoy these very much. Great info on these olde militaries .👍👍👍👍👍

  • @rubennasser6907
    @rubennasser6907 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GREAT episode guys! Thanks.

  • @courierdog1941
    @courierdog1941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One other thing, the thumb is not held parallel to the stock rather it wraps around the stock. I have shot the Lee Enfield during training for 8 hours per day for seven week during our marksman rifle course. Note no holder pad.
    Never a bruise or sore shoulder. This is not some thing even my father and armour was able to do. Grab it Tight Pull it in close and squeeze the trigger.

  • @johns.87
    @johns.87 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great stuff You2!!

  • @wolvarine35
    @wolvarine35 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly in post ww2 tests the rear locking mechanism of the SMLE proved superior to the front locking mechanism in the k98 with high pressure rounds. Even on the rare occasions where it did fail it did so in a safer fashion than the Mauser.

    • @23GreyFox
      @23GreyFox 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      HAHAHA sure

  • @mcfontaine
    @mcfontaine 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely brilliant and detailed. Well done guys.

  • @Adifilms_sub30_subpar
    @Adifilms_sub30_subpar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tip from down under, Lithgow is pronounced 'Lith-go' with the 'Lith' part said as short as possible. I'm slowly starting to pronounced it as 'Lithhh-gow' because of all the firearm youtubers from America, which is worrying.

  • @wierdalien1
    @wierdalien1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    A thought that just comes to me is that the Lee Enfield went through exactly the same development cycle is as the G98. However the difference is that the British, possibly because of the empire, Didn't feel the need to chuck out the rifle, to create a new one, every time and just do the incremental changes on the rifle. Also related to that is that they are Mked not year'd like most other rifles of the date, G98 springing to mind. So it looks like the rifle started off badly but it in that respect its very similar to the 98 generations but we treat those as separate rifles because they are year'd

  • @rainbow2710
    @rainbow2710 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great edition!! Splendid shooting, too!!

  • @eribertoacedo9505
    @eribertoacedo9505 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey guys and gals like you show about the Enfield I have one it’s a MO2A1 7.62×51 NATO 308 cal contacted (Bob ) at B-Square he designed a scope mount for my infield beautifully done added a Simmons pro 050 scope Black synthetic stock, everything is nice and tight very very accurate thinking about a muzzle brake. I enjoy my tack driver. 🕶

  • @SamEEE12
    @SamEEE12 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The what now?

  • @USSEnterpriseA1701
    @USSEnterpriseA1701 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, I'll be honest, I have some experience with a WWII SMLE mark III * (using the WWI model name), some #4's ,a Gibbs Rifle Company modified and cut down Indian 2A1(talk about a REALLY short sight radius) and a much more cranky unmodified 2A1, as well as a (repair-ably) sporterized mark III/III* from 1916 and I have to agree, those 10 round magazines can sometimes be a pain to top off. It varies as to how cranky they are from rifle to rifle, but some of them are a downright pain. I also have to point out that simply using a rimless cartridge does not exactly remove the issues from the magazine. It may be just the quality of manufacture but those two 2A1's have had more problems feeding than the others combined. I will admit that I like the Lee-Enfield, but it is not my favorite service rifle (the M1 and M14 share that category for me). In WWI, I would have to pick either a Pattern 14 or US M1917 if I had to choose, they put quite a lot of thought into those designs and it shows.

  • @karlkruger7310
    @karlkruger7310 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    E.Y. Barrel on knox form , also receiver and furniture , only to fire ball in case of emergency. {The British Service Lee, Ian Skennerton.}

  • @gamesbokgamesbok7246
    @gamesbokgamesbok7246 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Today we have naming of parts. Yesterday,
    We had daily cleaning. And tomorrow morning,
    We shall have what to do after firing. But to-day,
    Today we have naming of parts. Japonica
    Glistens like coral in all of the neighbouring gardens,
    And today we have naming of parts.
    This is the lower sling swivel. And this
    Is the upper sling swivel, whose use you will see,
    When you are given your slings. And this is the piling swivel,
    Which in your case you have not got. The branches
    Hold in the gardens their silent, eloquent gestures,
    Which in our case we have not got.
    This is the safety-catch, which is always released
    With an easy flick of the thumb. And please do not let me
    See anyone using his finger. You can do it quite easy
    If you have any strength in your thumb. The blossoms
    Are fragile and motionless, never letting anyone see
    Any of them using their finger.
    And this you can see is the bolt. The purpose of this
    Is to open the breech, as you see. We can slide it
    Rapidly backwards and forwards: we call this
    Easing the spring. And rapidly backwards and forwards
    The early bees are assaulting and fumbling the flowers:
    They call it easing the Spring.
    They call it easing the Spring: it is perfectly easy
    If you have any strength in your thumb: like the bolt,
    And the breech, and the cocking-piece, and the point of balance,
    Which in our case we have not got; and the almond-blossom
    Silent in all of the gardens and the bees going backwards and forwards,
    For today we have naming of parts.
    Naming of Parts (1942)
    Henry Reed

  • @marcuswardle3180
    @marcuswardle3180 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Boer War, the war that much to the shame of my country created Concentration Camps. Although certainly not like the ones during WWII.

    • @bolivar2153
      @bolivar2153 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, that dubious honour goes to Spain who introduced concentration camps in Cuba during their war of 1868-1878. Second place goes to both Britain, with their Boer camps, and America, with their camps in the Philippines, both around the same period, 1899-1902.

  • @bofoenss8393
    @bofoenss8393 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    242 likes and 0 dislikes - what did you guys do wrong?! An SMLE video without hysteria?! That's a first :-)
    Thanks for amazing research and presentation as always - I feel almost like a robber for something this great even with my Patreon support.

    • @bofoenss8393
      @bofoenss8393 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      By the, thanks to you guys I won a bet. A year ago my friend and I made a bet whether you would play (It's a Long Way to) Tipperary. Guess who won...

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The downvotes will come when they get to the end.

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But did you guess the Champion song?

    • @bofoenss8393
      @bofoenss8393 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      A little bit of cucumber! It was well hidden at the back of the far fetched long term memory, but it was there...

  • @lancerd4934
    @lancerd4934 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    *Crosses fingers
    Don't say Lith-gau, don't say Lith-gau
    Dammit. It's pronounced "Lith-GO" (just like John Lithgow), but don't worry about it too much, I haven't seen an American youtuber get it right yet

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      What are you, French? Just adding letters for no reason?

    • @lancerd4934
      @lancerd4934 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Close, Australian. We just shorten everything by ending it with "O". Aggro, arvo, ambo, avo, bottle-o, Ceno, chocko, compo, dero, devo, doco, garbo, journo, kero, metho, relo, rego, servo, vego… it goes on.

    • @ScottRuggels
      @ScottRuggels 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeah, if he was French it would have been Lithgeaux. Aggreaux, arveaux, ambeaux, bottleaux, ceneaux, chockeaux, compeaux, dereaux, deveaux,garbeaux, journeaux, kereaux, metheaux, releaux, regeaux, serveaux, vegeaux.. and seaux, on and seaux on.

  • @tobe090
    @tobe090 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have never seen some load stripper clips into a rifle that way. That migt be why the second clip keeps giving trouble.

  • @grizzlyadams3021
    @grizzlyadams3021 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 1916 BSA SMLE No.1 MKIII*. I love the rifle, it's a blast to shoot, but, you have to be objective and consider it's being compared with other arms of the time. I agree with all of your critiques of the gun. Is it a great gun and fun to shoot? Absolutely, is it quirky and has points that aren't functionally as good as others? By far, especially the rimmed ammo. I prefer my M1903, Remington 1917 Enfield, or honestly even my Krag Jorgensen. In all fairness the Krag is just because with how low recoil and how smooth that bolt is, the Krag is such a pleasure to shoot. M1903 and P17 beat out the Krag because of the 30-06 as opposed to 30-40

  • @Furri1bia
    @Furri1bia 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    At last... God bless you, guys.

  • @cptreech
    @cptreech 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top 5: 98k (I'm British, I just like it!) Lee Enfield MkIII*, Enfield 1917....Then, just for fun, Winchester 1895 Russian contract and a Civilian purchase 12 gauge sawn off coupled with a club for Trench raids.

  • @RobertoDonatti
    @RobertoDonatti 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, really, you are doing brilliant work!

  • @mansoortanweer
    @mansoortanweer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hereby declare Mae's segment to be called "Mae's Mad Minute".

  • @terrynolan5831
    @terrynolan5831 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting, very informative, like the guys style.

  • @clayrogers4532
    @clayrogers4532 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your show!

  • @flugit
    @flugit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like so many other guns, I wish I had bought one when they were cheaper and readily available.

  • @snookums01
    @snookums01 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lithgow is pronounced Lithgo (the w is silent). Lithgow small arms still produces firearms for the Australian military. I loved the SMLE, I fired one as a high school cadet. .303 rifles and the Bren gun fired at the local rifle club menat that school used to be fun....

  • @drakinclaq
    @drakinclaq 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome video guys. this is like a movie length film , love it. any ETA on the mosin Nagant videos???

  • @dickdozer6558
    @dickdozer6558 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This show was great

  • @Zappyguy111
    @Zappyguy111 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    24:14 ; The bullet has less force on it, thus by increasing the diameter of the bore, you reduce the friction on the bullet.

    • @samiam619
      @samiam619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So it just bangs down the last part of the barrel like a pin ball? Yeah, great for accuracy…

  • @brasilman11
    @brasilman11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, i love your vids. Im new to rifle collecting and you are by far the best historian I had the pleasure if listening to. Also, is that a poster behind you???

  • @MrSmith336
    @MrSmith336 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and an excellent primer.

  • @williammichaelsexton
    @williammichaelsexton 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Netflix needs to buy y'all out to make a few seasons..

  • @yusriyahbagheri8843
    @yusriyahbagheri8843 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I left youtube playing in the background over my headphones and lowkey thought someone was trying to break down my fence outside at 36:45

  • @lstevens2834
    @lstevens2834 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone else watch this stuff with the gun under consideration on your lap? If I have what Othias is talking about I bring it out like it needs to watch the video too. Then I can look for the details with my magnifying glass as my eyes suck.

    • @Candrsenal
      @Candrsenal  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I leave guns in my lap for the videos. But then I pull them out when I say THIS