"so you're my replacements... a dandy and a clown" is the most memorable line in this for me. Hartnell feels like he's talking to his future selves as if he were talking to Ian Chesterton.
Originally, they wanted to have Hartnell come back and have a larger role, and they called him and he enthusiastically agreed. But some time later, his wife called them back and said that he was in no condition to do such strenuous work and that while they may have caught him on a good day, he couldn't possibly play the part as scripted. So, the role was rewritten to include the 'time eddy' concept. Contrary to fan myth, the shots on screen were *not* recorded in Hartnell's garage. They were recorded in BBC Television Centre. Hartnell died three years later of complications from arteriosclerosis.
In early 1975, Hartnell suffered from several strokes, brought on by cerebrovascular disease, and he died in his sleep in hospital on 23 April 1975, at the age of 67.
Hartnell was filmed in a studio with cue cards. Despite fan lore, he wasn't in a hospital or anything. The idea came from a letter producer Barry Letts received, asking if the other two Doctors would meet the current one. Troughton was all for it, as was Hartnell, it seemed. However, Letts had coincidentally caught Bill on a rare good day, so his wife Heather called Letts back to inform him of Hartnell's infirmity due to artereosclerosis. As such, the script had to be rewritten to allow for Hartnell's condition. You're right that this was his final performance, and it's great to see him irrespective of anything else.
It's funny how despite having been a fan of WHO my entire life (ahh, well, my first memories are Tom's final season), I've never heard of this myth about Hartnell / garage / hospital etc. I guess being an Aussie has kept me apart from some of the fan mythology that would be more prevalent in the UK.
The Hartnell stuff was shot on film in the studio, not in hospital. He had a form of dimensia. So he was reading off cards but apparently he had a blast doing it
I think dementia is the word you were looking for, but given how little they knew about the brain back then it is likely more that his brain was being affected by his arterial sclerosis, which reduces blood flow throughout the body.
Just as well you don’t have to start every episode like that! The Three Doctors came about, at least in part, due to the rise of organised fandom in the early 70s. The Doctor Who Appreciation Society had been formed not long before this, and I think its members wrote to the production office suggesting a multi-Doctor story on more than one occasion. Barry Letts eventually decided that it would be a great way to mark the show’s tenth anniversary, though as Paul has noted, the story was broadcast much closer to the ninth anniversary, from December 1972 - January 1973. The poor state of Hartnell’s health had forced him into retirement a couple of years earlier, but when approached to appear in this he jumped at the chance, despite having often been critical of the direction the show had taken since his departure. It is a shame his health restricted him to just appearing on a screen, but it is still lovely that he could be part of it, and even though he is reading his lines off cue cards he still shows flashes of the old fire - his scenes were filmed at Ealing studios, then owned by the BBC. As can be seen from the thumbnail, the three Doctors did come together for a photo shoot at least. I don’t think Troughton and Pertwee had ever worked together before, but Hartnell and Pertwee had both appeared in a film called Will Any Gentleman? more than twenty years earlier, while Troughton and Hartnell had both been in an episode of a TV show called Dial 999.
Some of us who were too young to see this when it came out, first saw it fully in an 80s repeat, but before then we saw this actual scene with all 3 Doctors as a clip on Blue Peter. Twice, as they repeated the item at 2 different moments of DW interest.
Pertwee and Troughton struggled with one another at first as Pertwee was rock solid on his lines and Troughton used to give an approximation of his lines so waiting for their cues was a challenge. But they very soon became good friends. They used to play up some rivalry at conventions - famously at an American convention they used water pistols against one another, finding increasingly larger pistols.
Yay! I’ve been itching to get to this season. Season 7 is a bit of an aberration (but I love it) 8 & 9 are probably the more Pertwee-ish (I love them too) but this is peak 3rd Doctor for me and this is a doozy of an opener. Thomas how I envy thee. Paul you’re so excitable I’d have worked out the “grab” 😂. Nowadays Troughtons appearance would probably be pushed to the last 10 seconds of the episode but here he gets a decent re-establishing, Pertwee/The Doctors annoyance with his predecessor is so well done it seems improvised and instantly legendary. Mind you Troughton just nearly steals it. I would say it’s not particularly scary but I found the images, Hollis, on the x-ray sheets unnerving. Interesting trivia ….Benton’s bits were originally intended for Jamie🤔. Obviously it didn’t happen but that would have almost been nostalgia overload😂
Just such a lovely celebration of the show where multi-doctor adventures didn't feel like window dressing and kinda gimmicky. Both these Doctor's just felt like they really compliment each other and serve a purpose. I adore it. Just brings a smile to my face :)
I wouldn't in a million compare this to "Spider-Man No Way Home" because 1 they can act and two everything was done practically and didn't look like a cartoon and 3 it wasn't done fanfictionly or lazily writen there was no such thing as multi-verses or any of that stuff and lastly it had a story reason for it. "The Three Doctors" was announced to the general public and William Hartnell was originally suppose to have an active role but his wife had to inform producer Barry Letts that there was no way he could do work actively as he was very ill by this point so he had to film in a studio with cue cards just to have him appear in the episode.
His shirt is supposed to be white. The blue was chosen for tone on a monochrome image. It looks white in monochrome. Same for the Dalek bumps. The people who coloured in The Daleks like a colouring book don't seem to understand how monochrome worked. This is also why the TARDIS console was a pale green colour. Again, it looks white on the tv.
The TARDIS console is the perfect example of this problem, made very visible by the fact that you would never seriously expect it to have been pale green in colour, and yet because it made the transition into the colour era without a repaint, that's what we got. However, whilst the Daleks may not have been intended to have blue bumps, IF they had been made for colour cameras, it's entirely plausible that they would not have been painted in a b&w / greytone colour palette. And Troughton may not have had a white shirt. Whilst using colour photos from the era to determine what colour to use when adding colour to these old stories is based on a false premise, it's also essentially the most authentic option available other than someone picking their own colour palette at random.
You wait all day for a Doctor then suddenly 3 come along at once. Despite popular myths, Hartnell's scenes were not done in his garden, they were done in Ealing Film Studios, as was normal for pre filming of the era. Apparently Troughton annoyed Pertwee a bit. Pertwee was a stickler for the script, Troughton much less so. Notice Hartnell is referred to here as "the earliest Doctor"? Take notes, Chibnall!
Hanging for it! Though hoping it's not as bad as The Daleks... (in terms of the editing down... The colour was quite reasonable, all things considered.)
I watched this on original airing but have to say that I don't recall any advance publicity. I also don't remember even notocing the title; after ten years of watching Who I think the title sequence just washed over me. All in all, the appearance of Troughton and then Hartnell came as a wonderful surprise. When contacted by the show, Hartnell was very enthusiast and wanted to take a full and active role. His wife spoke to the production team when she found out and explained his poor health so they came up with the compromise of prefilming these inserts in a studio where Hartnell could be supported with cue cards. Hartnell was able to reprise the role in which he had taken such pride and we viewers got to see THE Doctor, the original you might say, one last time.
I have come across people saying "mayn't" and I might have used it myself. It is old fashioned, and possibly northern (lots of planets have a north), but it is like"shalln't" and "won't".
I've never heard "mayn't I" anywhere else either, although I've had a few Scottish friends who used "amn't I" instead of "aren't I". Perhaps they're from the same stable?
I think I've heard it used in a couple of 1940s or 50s movies where actors spoke proper upper class English with toffee accents. I've just checked up and it was common in the 19th century and used by Lewis Carroll and Kenneth Grahame so possibly it was in versions of Alice in Wonderland or Wind in the Willows that I heard it.
For a moment at the beginning of this video, I thought I was watching a remake of the classic TV show "The Golden Shot" with all that up a bit, left a bit chatter. (Thomas, you'll have to youtube it cos you're far too young to know what I'm talking about). When the chief Timelord says "Show me the earliest incarnation" and we see Hartnell - lets forget that whole timeless child stuff!
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"so you're my replacements... a dandy and a clown" is the most memorable line in this for me. Hartnell feels like he's talking to his future selves as if he were talking to Ian Chesterton.
Or, as he called him in The Web Planet, Chesterfield.
Originally, they wanted to have Hartnell come back and have a larger role, and they called him and he enthusiastically agreed. But some time later, his wife called them back and said that he was in no condition to do such strenuous work and that while they may have caught him on a good day, he couldn't possibly play the part as scripted. So, the role was rewritten to include the 'time eddy' concept. Contrary to fan myth, the shots on screen were *not* recorded in Hartnell's garage. They were recorded in BBC Television Centre.
Hartnell died three years later of complications from arteriosclerosis.
In early 1975, Hartnell suffered from several strokes, brought on by cerebrovascular disease, and he died in his sleep in hospital on 23 April 1975, at the age of 67.
Thanks for the upload. Great stuff. Re your question for 06:22. This isn't reused footage but was filmed especially for this story. 🙂
Hartnell was filmed in a studio with cue cards. Despite fan lore, he wasn't in a hospital or anything. The idea came from a letter producer Barry Letts received, asking if the other two Doctors would meet the current one. Troughton was all for it, as was Hartnell, it seemed. However, Letts had coincidentally caught Bill on a rare good day, so his wife Heather called Letts back to inform him of Hartnell's infirmity due to artereosclerosis. As such, the script had to be rewritten to allow for Hartnell's condition.
You're right that this was his final performance, and it's great to see him irrespective of anything else.
The Hartnell filming at his hospital is a bit of an urban myth. All his scenes were filmed at BBCs Ealing studios
It's funny how despite having been a fan of WHO my entire life (ahh, well, my first memories are Tom's final season), I've never heard of this myth about Hartnell / garage / hospital etc. I guess being an Aussie has kept me apart from some of the fan mythology that would be more prevalent in the UK.
Loved the opening Blind Man's Bluff game with the video. And I liked the "mayn't I?" as well. Kind of a way to say "May I not?"
The Hartnell stuff was shot on film in the studio, not in hospital. He had a form of dimensia. So he was reading off cards but apparently he had a blast doing it
I think dementia is the word you were looking for, but given how little they knew about the brain back then it is likely more that his brain was being affected by his arterial sclerosis, which reduces blood flow throughout the body.
Just as well you don’t have to start every episode like that! The Three Doctors came about, at least in part, due to the rise of organised fandom in the early 70s. The Doctor Who Appreciation Society had been formed not long before this, and I think its members wrote to the production office suggesting a multi-Doctor story on more than one occasion. Barry Letts eventually decided that it would be a great way to mark the show’s tenth anniversary, though as Paul has noted, the story was broadcast much closer to the ninth anniversary, from December 1972 - January 1973.
The poor state of Hartnell’s health had forced him into retirement a couple of years earlier, but when approached to appear in this he jumped at the chance, despite having often been critical of the direction the show had taken since his departure. It is a shame his health restricted him to just appearing on a screen, but it is still lovely that he could be part of it, and even though he is reading his lines off cue cards he still shows flashes of the old fire - his scenes were filmed at Ealing studios, then owned by the BBC. As can be seen from the thumbnail, the three Doctors did come together for a photo shoot at least. I don’t think Troughton and Pertwee had ever worked together before, but Hartnell and Pertwee had both appeared in a film called Will Any Gentleman? more than twenty years earlier, while Troughton and Hartnell had both been in an episode of a TV show called Dial 999.
Some of us who were too young to see this when it came out, first saw it fully in an 80s repeat, but before then we saw this actual scene with all 3 Doctors as a clip on Blue Peter. Twice, as they repeated the item at 2 different moments of DW interest.
I'm getting flashbacks to Knighmare with this beginning! 'LEFT NO LEFT!.OK, and right...right ..up ! UP ! (Ya ham-fisted Bun Vendor)! '
The Troughton scene is from the Macra Terror, some of the only footage left.
Pertwee and Troughton struggled with one another at first as Pertwee was rock solid on his lines and Troughton used to give an approximation of his lines so waiting for their cues was a challenge. But they very soon became good friends. They used to play up some rivalry at conventions - famously at an American convention they used water pistols against one another, finding increasingly larger pistols.
The banter between them, and the way that they played it up for fans, was just delightful.
It's like watching an episode of 'The Golden Shot'
20:05 there was a very brief scene on Gallifrey at the start of ‘Colony in Space’
Yay! I’ve been itching to get to this season. Season 7 is a bit of an aberration (but I love it) 8 & 9 are probably the more Pertwee-ish (I love them too) but this is peak 3rd Doctor for me and this is a doozy of an opener. Thomas how I envy thee. Paul you’re so excitable I’d have worked out the “grab” 😂. Nowadays Troughtons appearance would probably be pushed to the last 10 seconds of the episode but here he gets a decent re-establishing, Pertwee/The Doctors annoyance with his predecessor is so well done it seems improvised and instantly legendary. Mind you Troughton just nearly steals it. I would say it’s not particularly scary but I found the images, Hollis, on the x-ray sheets unnerving.
Interesting trivia ….Benton’s bits were originally intended for Jamie🤔. Obviously it didn’t happen but that would have almost been nostalgia overload😂
The first episode was broadcast at the very end of 72 and was the third story of the season filmed - quite close to broadcast in fact
Just such a lovely celebration of the show where multi-doctor adventures didn't feel like window dressing and kinda gimmicky. Both these Doctor's just felt like they really compliment each other and serve a purpose. I adore it. Just brings a smile to my face :)
Doctor Who's 10th Birthday party!
With old friends meeting new, games, lots and lots of Jelly and maybe even a slightly tragic Magician!
I wouldn't in a million compare this to "Spider-Man No Way Home" because 1 they can act and two everything was done practically and didn't look like a cartoon and 3 it wasn't done fanfictionly or lazily writen there was no such thing as multi-verses or any of that stuff and lastly it had a story reason for it.
"The Three Doctors" was announced to the general public and William Hartnell was originally suppose to have an active role but his wife had to inform producer Barry Letts that there was no way he could do work actively as he was very ill by this point so he had to film in a studio with cue cards just to have him appear in the episode.
His shirt is supposed to be white. The blue was chosen for tone on a monochrome image.
It looks white in monochrome. Same for the Dalek bumps.
The people who coloured in The Daleks like a colouring book don't seem to understand how monochrome worked.
This is also why the TARDIS console was a pale green colour. Again, it looks white on the tv.
The TARDIS console is the perfect example of this problem, made very visible by the fact that you would never seriously expect it to have been pale green in colour, and yet because it made the transition into the colour era without a repaint, that's what we got. However, whilst the Daleks may not have been intended to have blue bumps, IF they had been made for colour cameras, it's entirely plausible that they would not have been painted in a b&w / greytone colour palette. And Troughton may not have had a white shirt. Whilst using colour photos from the era to determine what colour to use when adding colour to these old stories is based on a false premise, it's also essentially the most authentic option available other than someone picking their own colour palette at random.
6:30 It's not, it was filmed for this.
You wait all day for a Doctor then suddenly 3 come along at once.
Despite popular myths, Hartnell's scenes were not done in his garden, they were done in Ealing Film Studios, as was normal for pre filming of the era.
Apparently Troughton annoyed Pertwee a bit. Pertwee was a stickler for the script, Troughton much less so.
Notice Hartnell is referred to here as "the earliest Doctor"? Take notes, Chibnall!
23rd December on BBC 4 at 9pm the war games in colour will be shown
Hanging for it! Though hoping it's not as bad as The Daleks... (in terms of the editing down... The colour was quite reasonable, all things considered.)
I watched this on original airing but have to say that I don't recall any advance publicity. I also don't remember even notocing the title; after ten years of watching Who I think the title sequence just washed over me. All in all, the appearance of Troughton and then Hartnell came as a wonderful surprise.
When contacted by the show, Hartnell was very enthusiast and wanted to take a full and active role. His wife spoke to the production team when she found out and explained his poor health so they came up with the compromise of prefilming these inserts in a studio where Hartnell could be supported with cue cards. Hartnell was able to reprise the role in which he had taken such pride and we viewers got to see THE Doctor, the original you might say, one last time.
I have come across people saying "mayn't" and I might have used it myself. It is old fashioned, and possibly northern (lots of planets have a north), but it is like"shalln't" and "won't".
If I manage to be available for the season review remind me about my theory of “lore rot” starting here.
Blind man's Who!
I've never heard "mayn't I" anywhere else either, although I've had a few Scottish friends who used "amn't I" instead of "aren't I". Perhaps they're from the same stable?
I think I've heard it used in a couple of 1940s or 50s movies where actors spoke proper upper class English with toffee accents. I've just checked up and it was common in the 19th century and used by Lewis Carroll and Kenneth Grahame so possibly it was in versions of Alice in Wonderland or Wind in the Willows that I heard it.
For a moment at the beginning of this video, I thought I was watching a remake of the classic TV show "The Golden Shot" with all that up a bit, left a bit chatter. (Thomas, you'll have to youtube it cos you're far too young to know what I'm talking about).
When the chief Timelord says "Show me the earliest incarnation" and we see Hartnell - lets forget that whole timeless child stuff!
"Bernie, the bolt!" I had the same thoughts. . . including, of course, the lovely Anne Aston. May be showing my age.
Mayn’t AKA may not.😊
This is great fun
"Mayn't " is absolutely fine as a word, if not very common. People usually say "mightn't" or "can't"
It's a short from of "may I not" isn't it? Probably already rarely used back in 1973...
Online dictionary defines Maynt as a contraction of May Not, as in " Dad says we maynt go canoeing in the river until we can swim."
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