I’d buy this clone and then modify it for my own taste, but Behringer has grown on me over the years and I think they do alright clones for reasonable prices.
Yeah I’m keen to try their most recent line of gear for sure. It’s certainly no less good than the warm or lindell audio stuff. Circuit wise they’re all very similar.
Behringer is excellently doing musical technologies. Done very well for low cost and rising the quality. So as long as quality does not drop and they existing product and make useful new in low quantity plus add foreign flavor such as African and Latin and include for this new population some sounds they will stay forward. Never forget however that the Celtic tones fit half the world’s sounds and wear some kilt sound now is boom big and ‼️ bang ‼️
A Behringer Fairchild would be great. To be honest, the cost of tubes and transformers isn't that high, and it's extremely old technology. Paying over the odds for any Audio hardware is, these day's, just a vanity project. But as long as people ignore the reality that the end product, i.e. the actual music product that this insanely expensive gear has helped create, has been made virtually worthless for most artists other than the elite ones, then the illusion will persist. When people wake up and realise the real economics of the current music "business", then the illusion will be shattered and the market will rationalise itself. Buying expensive music gear is not an investment anymore.
@@diyrecordingstudio If you happen to have the Royal Blue Colour module, that could be worth comparing, even if its technically 81 inspired. Happy building!
Just stumbled upon your channel tonight Sir. Always curious about equipment/routing/recording optimization in my humble home project studio. As far as dollar per DB of pure fidelity/ input quotient value goes, what's your opinion on the SSL BIG SIX vs the TASCAM model 2400? I generally play with programming 1 synthesizer at a time, but have recently acquired a sequencer that can poly-sequence all my 10 midi outboards plus 6 more digi onboards. Getting them into my DAW via analogue is the issue. Don't think the SSL can handle the inputs, but fidelity will surely be better?
Live mixing desks normally have the inputs at the back top for easy access if the mix engineer needs to quickly move a lead, but for a studio, you want them at the back not only to hide the cables but also to not put a lot of strain on the cables, since they are normally plugged in and left alone for some time.
Was going to suggest to compare against the pre573 premier as well. I have one at moment with another on the way - but also likely to build a DIYRE unit before too long too, as I’ve come to learn I actually enjoying building!
I’d jump on a Behringer Fairchild for sure. Will it be the same quality as the Stam? Obviously not but having dealt with Stam once, I’d never want repeat that experience.
Damnnn son if the Behrchild actually comes in at 1500 or less I would try one 🤣 🤣🤣. If it’s bad, it would look really cool in my studio from far away and be a funny flex lol. If it’s half decent, well, then, I’ll use it… I don’t have a vari mu compressor and I’ve been all over the Fairchild clone market recently. I wouldn’t particularly care that much if it doesn’t sound “exactly” like a Fairchild. First of all, there’s no way I would expect that in this scenario and from all the demos I’ve heard the UAD plug-in is close enough that I’m really just more interested in getting my hands on that style of compression. I think it’s an interesting idea honestly. The brand name scares me off a little bit when it comes to attempting something like this, but these days you could definitely build SOMETHING at least solid and fun to use for that price. Who knows, I think they should do it lol
Hahahaha Behrchild! So good! Who wouldnt wanna try it. I have some vari-mu's as mentioned. Theyre never what people think. Warm and thick like tubes but also super punchy like a vca comp. Really cool type of compressor.
I am also got the red special even though I don’t play guitar Brian made guitar guess it could be from guild 699$ at the time! I like multitrack recorder stand-alones if you’re just a solo artist yourself but I like to zoom at 12 I have it but it’s always the card with everything else goes right I was the SDXC card that gives away the door the release mechanism and only because I didn’t know how to copy this card I have to use the L-8 know how to take them out exploring but I couldn’t have anybody teach me on a damn laptop died by a laptop and nobody knew how to do it I mean so keeping him in there for probably last you 2 3 years
Yeah the interface conversion can be limited on these consoles as interfaces. Mine has an optional analog output that I use with a different interface to get conversion.
its like tascam trying to catch up to allen and heath from 15 years ago.... as for the berimu... thats a lot of tubes and transformers to squeek into their stated price range. and the thing is, so few people have the real thing to do proper comparisons and either way, even if it doesnt "sound the same" your probably getting a good compressor for the price.
Yeah its an interesting choice of console. I have the A&H GS-R24 which is a much better, albeit originally more expensive, console for the money. Yeah if they did the vari-mu it could sound good. My tubecore 500's are amazing. If they did something similar, people would dig it.
Travis! Man are you back on YT? I've missed your content. Hope you're ok. Do you mean the next level of the tascam, upgrading from your previous setup?
@@diyrecordingstudio G.A.S. to... S. H. I. T. ... I didn't really think it through carefully. how about "Somebody Hates Investing Tactfully" ?? I actually sold a ton of stuff... the cycle continues
Hahahaha oh i get it...Now. Haha yeah im a fuckin dumbass. I take the Crypto bro approach, HODL, never sell. Only more. hahaha. I've used tascam pres in their field recorders and stuff before. theyre great. clean but good headroom. The government and our reserve bank do everything they can to keep our dollar low. A high dollar against the US hurts our exports. And all we do is export raw materials to everywhere in the world. We're the top exporter of iron ore, natural gas and 2nd in coal. You can thank us later when we're all underwater hahah!
@@diyrecordingstudio I used to HODL and then I lost my ASS. I learned my lesson. I cannot understand how different countries have different currencies and how they compare. confuses my brain.
Hi Mitch, I’ve owned a few Behringer products over the past 10 years. They have always been good at making a cheaper version of the real thing, but where they lack is the quality and customer support. 🙂🇨🇦
Are you referring to the Sontec meq 250 style mastering eq? Man that’s a steal for that kind of price. They’re a passive eq. The components all come from china anyway. Not sure what your beef is? I’ve seen “handmade” stuff from the US and even here in Australia that is atrociously built. I’ll be doing a review of their 500 250 style eqs. I’ll show if it’s built well or not.
@@diyrecordingstudio the components in good gear don’t come from china at all and I haven’t seen any hand made stuff that looks like crap from anywhere I’m looking, better re calibrate, I can build a stereo pair of Sontec’s from dons classics that aren’t using Chinese garbage for a $1k less than, dale vishay, analogue devices and no reputable transformer suppliers come from china, in fact almost all quality component manufacturer’s don’t create in china
@@diyrecordingstudio I should also add that this is NOT a passive design, it’s loaded with NE5534,32, or TL071,2’s or OPA ic op amps which are not passive and none of are made in china, in fact inferior Chinese knock offs are a problem
@@diyrecordingstudio the design was NEVER passive and always had ic op amps, it’s ok to be wrong, and yes it’s over priced for what it is, after further investigation the dons classics is about $500 for a pair, u r a diy guy right?
@@diyrecordingstudio One of my best friend’s online calls them dollars-doos he’s from Perth. When I go to Canada they call their dollars, Canadian Rubles. Sadly the American dollar sucks now too so I guess we just have DIY the gear we want. Cheers!
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LOVE this video series! Can't wait for the 73p video 😊
Working on it as we speak!
I’d buy this clone and then modify it for my own taste, but Behringer has grown on me over the years and I think they do alright clones for reasonable prices.
Yeah I’m keen to try their most recent line of gear for sure. It’s certainly no less good than the warm or lindell audio stuff. Circuit wise they’re all very similar.
Behringer is excellently doing musical technologies. Done very well for low cost and rising the quality. So as long as quality does not drop and they existing product and make useful new in low quantity plus add foreign flavor such as African and Latin and include for this new population some sounds they will stay forward. Never forget however that the Celtic tones fit half the world’s sounds and wear some kilt sound now is boom big and ‼️ bang ‼️
Audioscape and Stam are making a 1178 with some modern extras, they are made in house and even cheaper than the Z&H....
A comparison between the MP573 and the 73P would be awesome!
Will definitely have a comparison soon! Thanks for the comment!
@@diyrecordingstudio You're the man. Love your channel 😃
@@diyrecordingstudio You're the man. Love your channel 😃
Thanks so much Simon!
A Behringer Fairchild would be great. To be honest, the cost of tubes and transformers isn't that high, and it's extremely old technology. Paying over the odds for any Audio hardware is, these day's, just a vanity project. But as long as people ignore the reality that the end product, i.e. the actual music product that this insanely expensive gear has helped create, has been made virtually worthless for most artists other than the elite ones, then the illusion will persist. When people wake up and realise the real economics of the current music "business", then the illusion will be shattered and the market will rationalise itself. Buying expensive music gear is not an investment anymore.
DIY 73 comparison would be great: Diyre, Sound Skulptor, any others.
Definitely will do. Just gotta build it! haha!
@@diyrecordingstudio If you happen to have the Royal Blue Colour module, that could be worth comparing, even if its technically 81 inspired.
Happy building!
Just stumbled upon your channel tonight Sir. Always curious about equipment/routing/recording optimization in my humble home project studio. As far as dollar per DB of pure fidelity/ input quotient value goes, what's your opinion on the SSL BIG SIX vs the TASCAM model 2400? I generally play with programming 1 synthesizer at a time, but have recently acquired a sequencer that can poly-sequence all my 10 midi outboards plus 6 more digi onboards. Getting them into my DAW via analogue is the issue. Don't think the SSL can handle the inputs, but fidelity will surely be better?
I would get an interface with a lot of inputs, spare some money and get one used with adat connections so you can use more inputs 😊
Live mixing desks normally have the inputs at the back top for easy access if the mix engineer needs to quickly move a lead, but for a studio, you want them at the back not only to hide the cables but also to not put a lot of strain on the cables, since they are normally plugged in and left alone for some time.
Yeah i think i kinda mentioned that, it could be a good way to work for project studios without a patchbay too. thanks for the advice!
You need to try the Golden Age PREQ-73 Premier!!
I haven't used that specific one, but I have used the pre73 before. Their gear is excellent value for the money!
Was going to suggest to compare against the pre573 premier as well. I have one at moment with another on the way - but also likely to build a DIYRE unit before too long too, as I’ve come to learn I actually enjoying building!
Their Pre 573 is my fav
Nice! I love building. It’s like a puzzle but at the end you get something you can use in the studio or even sell if you want.
I’d jump on a Behringer Fairchild for sure. Will it be the same quality as the Stam? Obviously not but having dealt with Stam once, I’d never want repeat that experience.
Just wait for the audioscape would be my advice
@@Rhuggins now that would be worth waiting for. Just picked up their EQP1 and very impressed.
I hear that about STAM a lot. It's a shame, because his gear is apparently very good. I wouldn't want to pay money and wait a year or so either.
Yeah, I'm sure theyll get to it eventually!
Damnnn son if the Behrchild actually comes in at 1500 or less I would try one 🤣 🤣🤣. If it’s bad, it would look really cool in my studio from far away and be a funny flex lol. If it’s half decent, well, then, I’ll use it… I don’t have a vari mu compressor and I’ve been all over the Fairchild clone market recently. I wouldn’t particularly care that much if it doesn’t sound “exactly” like a Fairchild. First of all, there’s no way I would expect that in this scenario and from all the demos I’ve heard the UAD plug-in is close enough that I’m really just more interested in getting my hands on that style of compression. I think it’s an interesting idea honestly. The brand name scares me off a little bit when it comes to attempting something like this, but these days you could definitely build SOMETHING at least solid and fun to use for that price. Who knows, I think they should do it lol
Hahahaha Behrchild! So good! Who wouldnt wanna try it. I have some vari-mu's as mentioned. Theyre never what people think. Warm and thick like tubes but also super punchy like a vca comp. Really cool type of compressor.
Yes, in our country, the only function of such cool-looking and cheap junk equipment is to prevent dust from entering the RACK CABINET
TASCAM model 2400 is $1,999 USD fyi
You never know what comes up on your YT homepage!!! As this comment gets posted, we are shipping you the V250 pair today 😆
Cant wait to try them out! Thanks again. I'm sure theyre gonna get a lot of use here and be featured in some great content!
I am also got the red special even though I don’t play guitar Brian made guitar guess it could be from guild 699$ at the time! I like multitrack recorder stand-alones if you’re just a solo artist yourself but I like to zoom at 12 I have it but it’s always the card with everything else goes right I was the SDXC card that gives away the door the release mechanism and only because I didn’t know how to copy this card I have to use the L-8
know how to take them out exploring but I couldn’t have anybody teach me on a damn laptop died by a laptop and nobody knew how to do it I mean so keeping him in there for probably last you 2 3 years
Z&H Designs 500-Series EQ kinda looks like RND Portico.
Yeah the panel and the dials definitely give it that look. It's a completely different design though, based on the sontec mep250 eq.
Tascam's unit is a missed opportunity to have 24bit 96khz. This is where all these mixer-recorder units fall short imo for that price.
Yeah the interface conversion can be limited on these consoles as interfaces. Mine has an optional analog output that I use with a different interface to get conversion.
There was another Fairchild clone for about £2000. Cant remember who made it. Wasnt warm, might have been BAE?
Heritage I’ll bet
@@wiltgonkerton7541 Might well have been. I did have a look but the results lead to 1176 clones. 🤨
@@Fl4ppers More of a la2a or varimu fan myself but my overstayer factory mod stereo FET does great work 🫡
its like tascam trying to catch up to allen and heath from 15 years ago.... as for the berimu... thats a lot of tubes and transformers to squeek into their stated price range. and the thing is, so few people have the real thing to do proper comparisons and either way, even if it doesnt "sound the same" your probably getting a good compressor for the price.
Yeah its an interesting choice of console. I have the A&H GS-R24 which is a much better, albeit originally more expensive, console for the money.
Yeah if they did the vari-mu it could sound good. My tubecore 500's are amazing. If they did something similar, people would dig it.
the next level is S.H.I.T. : Selling Half , In need of Therapy
Travis! Man are you back on YT? I've missed your content. Hope you're ok.
Do you mean the next level of the tascam, upgrading from your previous setup?
@@diyrecordingstudio G.A.S. to... S. H. I. T. ... I didn't really think it through carefully. how about "Somebody Hates Investing Tactfully" ?? I actually sold a ton of stuff... the cycle continues
@@diyrecordingstudio2 questions: 1. how you know the tascam pres are good? 2. what the hell is going on with the Australian dollar??
Hahahaha oh i get it...Now. Haha yeah im a fuckin dumbass. I take the Crypto bro approach, HODL, never sell. Only more. hahaha.
I've used tascam pres in their field recorders and stuff before. theyre great. clean but good headroom.
The government and our reserve bank do everything they can to keep our dollar low. A high dollar against the US hurts our exports. And all we do is export raw materials to everywhere in the world. We're the top exporter of iron ore, natural gas and 2nd in coal. You can thank us later when we're all underwater hahah!
@@diyrecordingstudio I used to HODL and then I lost my ASS. I learned my lesson. I cannot understand how different countries have different currencies and how they compare. confuses my brain.
Hi Mitch,
I’ve owned a few Behringer products over the past 10 years. They have always been good at making a cheaper version of the real thing, but where they lack is the quality and customer support. 🙂🇨🇦
Yeah I can see how that would be an issue. I do a bit of repair work and so far the stuff i see most is Warm Audio and Behringer.
Tascam 1600 would be potentially more interesting..
Definitely not 4,500
$2,700 for an EQ manufactured in china, no thanx
Are you referring to the Sontec meq 250 style mastering eq?
Man that’s a steal for that kind of price. They’re a passive eq. The components all come from china anyway. Not sure what your beef is?
I’ve seen “handmade” stuff from the US and even here in Australia that is atrociously built.
I’ll be doing a review of their 500 250 style eqs. I’ll show if it’s built well or not.
@@diyrecordingstudio the components in good gear don’t come from china at all and I haven’t seen any hand made stuff that looks like crap from anywhere I’m looking, better re calibrate, I can build a stereo pair of Sontec’s from dons classics that aren’t using Chinese garbage for a $1k less than, dale vishay, analogue devices and no reputable transformer suppliers come from china, in fact almost all quality component manufacturer’s don’t create in china
@@diyrecordingstudio I should also add that this is NOT a passive design, it’s loaded with NE5534,32, or TL071,2’s or OPA ic op amps which are not passive and none of are made in china, in fact inferior Chinese knock offs are a problem
Modern designs of the sontec use ic opamps. I could never afford the vintage thing. All I care about is do these do the thing and sound the part.
@@diyrecordingstudio the design was NEVER passive and always had ic op amps, it’s ok to be wrong, and yes it’s over priced for what it is, after further investigation the dons classics is about $500 for a pair, u r a diy guy right?
Tascam 2400 is 2000 dollars not 5k bro.
He's in Australia where everything is 2 times higher since they use Down-Under-Dollars not the real ones! LOL
Yeah it sucks here! Especially since our dollar has dropped over the last few years.
@@diyrecordingstudio One of my best friend’s online calls them dollars-doos he’s from Perth. When I go to Canada they call their dollars, Canadian Rubles. Sadly the American dollar sucks now too so I guess we just have DIY the gear we want. Cheers!
Hahahaha, yeah Dollaridoos is a simpsons reference! It's a thing lol.
Yeah lucky for us all we have DIY!