Everyone has the same thing to say about it: It sounds great, and that they instantly broke a knob. How hard can it be to make knobs that don't break like that? Ah well. It's an opportunity for whoever makes the original knobs to sell some more, I guess. I love how you said my mantra: "Does it do the thing?" And it's so important for people to understand that. Program material always differs and the small differences don't matter since you mix with/to the gear you have. What does the original do that I like? Does this do that thing? It's a lesson I learned when I wanted a Hiwatt amp but didn't want the volume or to deal with tubes. I wanted the smoother attack transient response and fuller body of the Hiwatt as compared to a Fender amp. Got a Tech21 Leeds running into a power amp. Does the thing. Does it sound *the same* as a Hiwatt? No. Does it sound *like* one? Very much yes. I developed much cheaper tastes in gear after that.
Great example, yeah 100% agree with you. If it does the thing, then maybe thats all that matters. Those knobs do really suck though hahah. I've replaced them with some knobs i bought off temu. Theyre great now.
"HOW HARD CAN IT BE" - Well, the cost of just a few of the incremental pots on the real Neve is more than this erntire Behringer unit, is why. Things are what they are. Paint and words don't magically turn a thing into something else. "Doing the thing" without A/B-ing to an original is just a crapshoot guess. i.e. "buss compression sounds like buss compression".
thanks again, really tempting bit of gear to add to the wishlist. (n.b. the wishlist currently is over $15k, so...) anyway love your videos & proud to be 0.014% of your subscriber base!
Thanks so much Peter! Haha yeah, the wishlist always grows right. This one was definitely one I had to try. Its pretty decent and worth the money for sure. Just replaced the knobs and it works awesome!
Behringer stuff is great for things like room EQs and monitors were you set them and forget them and never touch them again. For stuff that's going to be high traffic I would spend the extra couple of bucks for something a little bit better made.
Great! Looking forward to the other shootouts. I’ve been thinking about this one for a while. Maybe the 369 then the 1273?? Mainly for drums. It’s great to have this kind of choice.
That would be a cool sound. I find the neves can be great on drums for like certain rock and Indy stuff. They can be harsh and aggressive on certain things though. For eqs, you might want to look at the z&h designs stuff I’m testing. The v560 graphic eqs are one of my favourite drum eqs.
The plastic knobs are not substantial but I haven’t broke one either. The transparent punch of the compressor section is however is very useable. I also noticed improved depth on the master bus, which plugins often reduce, not improve.
100% agree. It seems like some plugins lose so much detail sometimes that they almost gate the tails of things like in particular snare it can be very obvious. I think this is part of the extra depth we get from hardware, because it brings everything up and retains all the detail.
Cheers Simmo! It's a pretty sick unit. So far absolute killer on drums. I'lll have a bunch more shootouts soon. Hope you're doing well man! Subbed to your channel!
@ cheers a million Mitch I want to get one of those now. So my channel is doing good but any tips on how I can bump my sub numbers up to the 2K kinda range?
Very good sound, congratulations and thanks for sharing. I wish you could share some audios to download, you know that TH-cam compression kills everything,...
Don't worry about the codec. Its good enough for me to consistently differentiate hardware vs clone or hardware vs good plugins in recent blind testing on StudioLife's channel (all documented before the reveal, so no bias and no cheating). Most other participants didn't perform well, so I'm thinking the limiting factor could be their monitoring or their experience. If the codec is preserving nuances that most engineers/producers don't even hear, then it's fine. It's not the best but it's sufficient.
Maybe its just me but that really sounds great! I agree with others about the knobs...what a fail haha. Also, when we clone a piece of vintage gear, its OK to make small improvements. No one would complain about a sidechain/HPF with like 3 switchable options. My sound skulptor bus compressor has that. Works wonders sometimes on low-end heavy drums. Still....for 400 bux this unit seems really good
Sounds great. Way I’ve used the plugin version of this (Arturia) is to set the comp first with the limiter off, and then drive into the limiter by increasing the gains in the comp section. If I recall signal flow is comp into limiter. I could be wrong though! Pity about the knobs but easily replaced. Something you may want to check out before their intro sale ends is PSP’s Datamix eq plugin. I was like oh I don’t need yet another eq but I demoed it and holy crap, it just got me where I wanted to be pretty quickly. Not just on one song, but like 6 in the past month. Every track, using some presets as starting place and making adjustments, boom. I’d encourage you to try it!
Yeah that’s how I’m using the limiter too, set the comp first. Then just light on the limiter. A little goes a long way for sure. Thanks for the heads up. I may be saving all my $$$ for some other gear though 😉
Great question. It is set to Dual Mono. So each channel compresses independently. It’s still working on left/right channels of the busses. It just means that if they be side has something loud, it won’t effect the other side, by forcing them t to clamp down for no reason. There’s pros and cons for both ways. But yeah, not in mono, but dual mono.
Great Video :) I use it since day one on a regular basis - luckily never broke a knob - and I love it on some sources, it fills a gap at least in my setup.
Yeah the more I test gear the more I hear a resolution loss from plugins. It’s weird. I’d love someone smarter than me to figure out a way to show or measure it. This unit is pretty awesome especially for the price.
@@diyrecordingstudio What I have found as one of the more definable differences between them is how hard you can push hardware vs software. At -1,2,3,4,5,6 etc. DB of gain reduction, a software compressor can sound very close to a hardware one if emulated right. However, push the same compressor to -20,30 DB etc. and watch how fast the software one craps out whilst the hardware one is still chooching along happily.... and still sounding good.
They’ve changed the knobs now? If so that’s the right choice. They’re very bad. Everything else is fine. The unit sounds great. I hope Santa brings you one! Haha.
Let’s watch you break some knobs 😂👍🏼 I usually don’t use the limiter and like it as a buscomp too but it ended up on my drumbus because I really like it on drums. Have it for five months and I’m still happy with it 😊
Hahahaha, yeah they're so bad. Did you replace yours? Yeah I feel like it's strength is on the drum buss for sure. It just makes the drums way more powerful in the mix but not too upfront either. It's a very cool bit of gear for the price.
@ I didn’t replace them, they’re still good but I was glad to see that the shaft of the potentiometer was from metal at least. I was afraid that was plastic too and I would break them. After a while they rotated a bit smoother. I loved it when I got it and straight away ordered their 1273 Neve clone pre-amp, which is pretty good too imo, I’m very happy with both units.
Comparing this to the SSL buss compressor I think I'd just spend the extra to get the SSL Bus+ myself. But that original Neve was a monster bit of kit! Behringer did a reasonable effort on this but I'dlike to see how this fares after a years use.
Ahhh so when I replaced the knobs, I discovered that some are indeed cheaper plastic potentiometers too. A bit disappointing. It works though. Pretty easy to swap those out too at some point if they fail.
By discovered do you mean you Broke a pot? If so, thats bad! You and I may be equipped to solder, but not everyone in the Behringer bracket is. @diyrecordingstudio
It's even worthwhile to buy this for the chassis and front panel items if you do DIY and wanted to build a more faithful version in the outter case. I had a custom case made for a dual LA2A I built with all the bells and whistles and it cost me about the same amount that unit costs for just the case alone!!! I wopuld imagin that this case is a lot more cheaply built however, but with all the VU meters and pots and other parts you may be able to reuse, it still may be viable. You'd have to look inside it htough and see what's what.
EDIT: OK, maybe not the plastic knobs after hering they break easily lol ... but you can get replacements real cheap these days so that's not really a huge negative in my eyes.
Fair enough. I’m going to do a shootout with the stam soon. The hpf filter is not a big deal for me. The original never had it. My ssl buss comp doesn’t either. The grabbiness on the kick is just part of the sound for me.
@@diyrecordingstudio I hear you it's fine sometimes but modern music has so much low end it kind of makes the mids and top pump up and down and when that happens I go into the box because my stereo comps don't have it either and it's frustrating when you like the sound.
Yeah I totally get you. It’s a pain when you want to retain that low end sometimes. I do wish that all modern recreations of hardware came with the hpf AND a Mix dial too. They should all have that. But, if they sound good it’s not the end of the world.
The knobs looks very much like the ones in their old analog MX mixers from 30 years ago… they sell for nothing and the knobs could maybe replace the ones on the more recent gear?
Yeah it's definitely out, if you can find them in stock. Theyre a dual channel 1073 preamp and EQ. Could be good. Great price too. $1200-ish here i think.
I don’t have the warm audio but I have a real ssl buss comp I can shoot out against. Right now I prefer the 369 on drums and the buss comp on the mix buss. The 369 is killer on rock drums. They sound bigger and more explosive. It gets a bit much on the mix buss. The ssl however glues the mix and adds some high frequency magic too. They’re both great. Just depends on how you want to use them I guess.
@@diyrecordingstudio Ta for the info! I have a couple of their vari-mu 500 serise comps and a tri-input 500 serise DI with the option of tube/FET/passive input .. and the FET mode absolutely kills it on bass, really brings out the thwap of the attack!!!
Yeah i was looking at one just the other day actually. They just seem kinda plain sounding without a lot of mojo and sound more like my dbx 160 ccs comps than a tube comp. I’d be keen to try one irl though if I can get one. The revive mods are interesting. I don’t know how effective some of them really are. I’m going to be modding some of my cheaper compressor units very soon
I’m not sure what you’re implying by “break” being in inverted commas. But the knob broke straight out of the box as I was lightly turning them, it’s an important issue people should know about. I replaced them straight away and the unit itself sounds awesome. Just the knobs are genuinely bad.
I'm perturbed by the moral dilema Behringer presents me. On one hand they make extreamly affordable and highly useful and sort after gear avalible to everyone. But on the other, they buy out brands that have a great reputation and amazing quality products, and then destroy that reputation by making the cheapest possible version of their IP, and if they can't buy the IP they will outright rip off other people's designs. I swore I'd never buy Behringer for these reasons, but every year they make it harder and harder for me, not only because they have so many other brands owned by the same umbrella corp. (Like Midas for example, whome I accidentally bought something from before I knew it was Behringer), but they are making some really nitche, hard to find gear, at a fraction of the originals cost....
Yeah I fully get you. It's a hard thing as a home studio engineer and having tight budgets, trying to justify significant purchases, especially when some companies are making terrific clones.
Not wanting to pay upwards of four grand for the real thing - that I can totally understand. But $500 for a Behringer is... I mean.... it's stunt gear that looks impressive from five feet away to people who don't know anything about pro audio gear. Stam and AudioScape both build very faithful, reliable 609-type comps - and both stand by their products (AudioScape would have the edge here as you wouldn't have to ship a busted unit to Chile). For "Neve diode comp/limiter on a budget", you could always track down a used Black Lion AGB for the same price as the Behringer.
Got a link to the plugin you're talking about? Do you mean analog obsession's britpressor? I can add it to the list of plugins i'll do a shootout with, but you might be sadly disappointed with the results.
@@DanyLeeRoth It's funny you say that, I can't see a difference. The plug-in has knobs just like the hardware. There may be a small difference in the sound, but I don't care as I'm a hobbyist and not chasing a 100% accurate reproduction.
I get what you mean, but even good knobs are relatively cheap anyway. I replaced mine for a couple of bucks. They could’ve easily done them properly without adding to the cost of the device. The sound of it is great though.
Someone else said the same thing. Head to 14:00 and 16:00 where I match things and have it dialled in. There’s a massive difference on the master buss, especially with the limiter engaged. On the drums at 16:00 have a listen once I add guitars back in. When it switches in the drums come up in the mix but not aggressively forward, they sound bigger and punchier.
I get where you're coming from, however this unit miught be a turning point for them in audio. Their Synths have been doing well and these are sold out in a lot of places. They sound very good!
Just save up another 1500 bucks and buy a real one. You get the better noise floor, real Neve pedigree that people want and will pay for, real metal knobs, Can you get some thing that was built in England without child labor…. Or you could buy the cheap crap and keep the child labor forces in business and have people laugh at you because you’re on a piece of shit like this.
Well, LoudMax is a limiter, not a compressor. It sounds fantastic, but it's a limiter. Check out Frankie Tedesco's epic 50 limiter shootout to hear how good LoudMax is.
ART make an "affordable DB compressor" already. And hey...."DIY Studio" ?? Build your own diode bridge compressor. Why waste money on a mass-produced cheap copy??
Legendary Behringer quality
Everyone has the same thing to say about it: It sounds great, and that they instantly broke a knob.
How hard can it be to make knobs that don't break like that? Ah well. It's an opportunity for whoever makes the original knobs to sell some more, I guess. I love how you said my mantra: "Does it do the thing?" And it's so important for people to understand that. Program material always differs and the small differences don't matter since you mix with/to the gear you have. What does the original do that I like? Does this do that thing? It's a lesson I learned when I wanted a Hiwatt amp but didn't want the volume or to deal with tubes. I wanted the smoother attack transient response and fuller body of the Hiwatt as compared to a Fender amp. Got a Tech21 Leeds running into a power amp. Does the thing. Does it sound *the same* as a Hiwatt? No. Does it sound *like* one? Very much yes. I developed much cheaper tastes in gear after that.
Great example, yeah 100% agree with you. If it does the thing, then maybe thats all that matters. Those knobs do really suck though hahah. I've replaced them with some knobs i bought off temu. Theyre great now.
If an amp has an effects loop, give me a 10 band graphic EQ and I will make it sound like any other amp.
"HOW HARD CAN IT BE" - Well, the cost of just a few of the incremental pots on the real Neve is more than this erntire Behringer unit, is why.
Things are what they are. Paint and words don't magically turn a thing into something else.
"Doing the thing" without A/B-ing to an original is just a crapshoot guess. i.e. "buss compression sounds like buss compression".
YES! This! " Does it do *the thing* " is the perfect litmus test for recreation vintage clones! I love it.
@@notsure1135Ola Englund does that already. ( make any amp sound the same)
thanks again, really tempting bit of gear to add to the wishlist. (n.b. the wishlist currently is over $15k, so...) anyway love your videos & proud to be 0.014% of your subscriber base!
Thanks so much Peter! Haha yeah, the wishlist always grows right. This one was definitely one I had to try. Its pretty decent and worth the money for sure. Just replaced the knobs and it works awesome!
Behringer stuff is great for things like room EQs and monitors were you set them and forget them and never touch them again. For stuff that's going to be high traffic I would spend the extra couple of bucks for something a little bit better made.
Great! Looking forward to the other shootouts. I’ve been thinking about this one for a while. Maybe the 369 then the 1273?? Mainly for drums. It’s great to have this kind of choice.
That would be a cool sound. I find the neves can be great on drums for like certain rock and Indy stuff. They can be harsh and aggressive on certain things though.
For eqs, you might want to look at the z&h designs stuff I’m testing. The v560 graphic eqs are one of my favourite drum eqs.
@@diyrecordingstudio Nice. Will have to check those out 👍 thanks!
Love this !! Pulse shout-out 🙏
The plastic knobs are not substantial but I haven’t broke one either. The transparent punch of the compressor section is however is very useable. I also noticed improved depth on the master bus, which plugins often reduce, not improve.
100% agree. It seems like some plugins lose so much detail sometimes that they almost gate the tails of things like in particular snare it can be very obvious. I think this is part of the extra depth we get from hardware, because it brings everything up and retains all the detail.
Oh hell yeah. I actually own a lot of Behringer gear so I’m keen to see how this goes. Keep up gods work Mitch 🤘
Cheers Simmo! It's a pretty sick unit. So far absolute killer on drums. I'lll have a bunch more shootouts soon. Hope you're doing well man! Subbed to your channel!
@ cheers a million Mitch I want to get one of those now. So my channel is doing good but any tips on how I can bump my sub numbers up to the 2K kinda range?
Very good sound, congratulations and thanks for sharing. I wish you could share some audios to download, you know that TH-cam compression kills everything,...
Great idea! I will definitely do that! I will add a link once I get it done. Might take a couple of days but will let you know.
Don't worry about the codec. Its good enough for me to consistently differentiate hardware vs clone or hardware vs good plugins in recent blind testing on StudioLife's channel (all documented before the reveal, so no bias and no cheating). Most other participants didn't perform well, so I'm thinking the limiting factor could be their monitoring or their experience. If the codec is preserving nuances that most engineers/producers don't even hear, then it's fine. It's not the best but it's sufficient.
Beautiful, thanks, I don´t understand why the enterprises don´t do that,....
Maybe its just me but that really sounds great! I agree with others about the knobs...what a fail haha. Also, when we clone a piece of vintage gear, its OK to make small improvements. No one would complain about a sidechain/HPF with like 3 switchable options. My sound skulptor bus compressor has that. Works wonders sometimes on low-end heavy drums. Still....for 400 bux this unit seems really good
Yeah hpf and a mix dial too, definitely. To the knobs are so laughable but it does really sound good. I’m impressed so far.
Sounds great. Way I’ve used the plugin version of this (Arturia) is to set the comp first with the limiter off, and then drive into the limiter by increasing the gains in the comp section. If I recall signal flow is comp into limiter. I could be wrong though! Pity about the knobs but easily replaced. Something you may want to check out before their intro sale ends is PSP’s Datamix eq plugin. I was like oh I don’t need yet another eq but I demoed it and holy crap, it just got me where I wanted to be pretty quickly. Not just on one song, but like 6 in the past month. Every track, using some presets as starting place and making adjustments, boom. I’d encourage you to try it!
Yeah that’s how I’m using the limiter too, set the comp first. Then just light on the limiter. A little goes a long way for sure. Thanks for the heads up. I may be saving all my $$$ for some other gear though 😉
Why is it set to mono? I hear stereo, so I am hung up on that. Are we really listening to the compressor on two stereo channels?
Great question. It is set to Dual Mono. So each channel compresses independently. It’s still working on left/right channels of the busses. It just means that if they be side has something loud, it won’t effect the other side, by forcing them t to clamp down for no reason. There’s pros and cons for both ways. But yeah, not in mono, but dual mono.
Great Video :) I use it since day one on a regular basis - luckily never broke a knob - and I love it on some sources, it fills a gap at least in my setup.
Yeah I’ve been needing a good drum buss comp and this definitely suits that role for me at the moment.
Sounds great ❤
Hardware almost always sounds better. Plugins sound like cartoons by comparison.
Yeah the more I test gear the more I hear a resolution loss from plugins. It’s weird. I’d love someone smarter than me to figure out a way to show or measure it.
This unit is pretty awesome especially for the price.
@@diyrecordingstudio What I have found as one of the more definable differences between them is how hard you can push hardware vs software. At -1,2,3,4,5,6 etc. DB of gain reduction, a software compressor can sound very close to a hardware one if emulated right. However, push the same compressor to -20,30 DB etc. and watch how fast the software one craps out whilst the hardware one is still chooching along happily.... and still sounding good.
This is what we call "definition". Hard to define 😊
Hope Santa will be nice to me this year! The knobs has changed!
They’ve changed the knobs now? If so that’s the right choice. They’re very bad. Everything else is fine. The unit sounds great. I hope Santa brings you one! Haha.
Where did you see this?? I have been considering ordering this unit.
Let’s watch you break some knobs 😂👍🏼
I usually don’t use the limiter and like it as a buscomp too but it ended up on my drumbus because I really like it on drums. Have it for five months and I’m still happy with it 😊
Hahahaha, yeah they're so bad. Did you replace yours? Yeah I feel like it's strength is on the drum buss for sure. It just makes the drums way more powerful in the mix but not too upfront either. It's a very cool bit of gear for the price.
@ I didn’t replace them, they’re still good but I was glad to see that the shaft of the potentiometer was from metal at least. I was afraid that was plastic too and I would break them. After a while they rotated a bit smoother. I loved it when I got it and straight away ordered their 1273 Neve clone pre-amp, which is pretty good too imo, I’m very happy with both units.
I freakin love cheap gear. and I love knobs! and VU meters. good on ya guvnahhhh
Yeah this is definitely a good bit of affordable gear. Easy and cheap to swap out the dodgy knobs hahah.
Comparing this to the SSL buss compressor I think I'd just spend the extra to get the SSL Bus+ myself. But that original Neve was a monster bit of kit! Behringer did a reasonable effort on this but I'dlike to see how this fares after a years use.
always wanted see and hear a righted demonstration of this unit
I'll definitely have more soon! Will be good to shoot it out against some hardware and plugins and really push it!
@@diyrecordingstudio Yea, take as much time to get familiar with it and make a good video. +1 sub here
Definitely will. Thanks heaps for the sub!
At least its only the plastic knobs with strong heavy duty pots and not strong knobs on cheap plastic pots snapping off…
Ahhh so when I replaced the knobs, I discovered that some are indeed cheaper plastic potentiometers too. A bit disappointing. It works though. Pretty easy to swap those out too at some point if they fail.
By discovered do you mean you Broke a pot? If so, thats bad! You and I may be equipped to solder, but not everyone in the Behringer bracket is. @diyrecordingstudio
It's even worthwhile to buy this for the chassis and front panel items if you do DIY and wanted to build a more faithful version in the outter case. I had a custom case made for a dual LA2A I built with all the bells and whistles and it cost me about the same amount that unit costs for just the case alone!!! I wopuld imagin that this case is a lot more cheaply built however, but with all the VU meters and pots and other parts you may be able to reuse, it still may be viable. You'd have to look inside it htough and see what's what.
EDIT: OK, maybe not the plastic knobs after hering they break easily lol ... but you can get replacements real cheap these days so that's not really a huge negative in my eyes.
Yeah i replaced mine for a couple of bucks. The unit sounds good as is at the moment, but may look into potential mods as well.
Looks cool
Yeah it sounds good too. Changed those knobs. Looks even better!
hahaha!
No detector circuit HPF. That was a no go for me, going to get the Stam SA-609.
Fair enough. I’m going to do a shootout with the stam soon. The hpf filter is not a big deal for me. The original never had it. My ssl buss comp doesn’t either. The grabbiness on the kick is just part of the sound for me.
@@diyrecordingstudio I hear you it's fine sometimes but modern music has so much low end it kind of makes the mids and top pump up and down and when that happens I go into the box because my stereo comps don't have it either and it's frustrating when you like the sound.
Yeah I totally get you. It’s a pain when you want to retain that low end sometimes. I do wish that all modern recreations of hardware came with the hpf AND a Mix dial too. They should all have that. But, if they sound good it’s not the end of the world.
Dude that said he wanted to see one of the knobs bust off got his wish😂😂😂😂😂
The knobs looks very much like the ones in their old analog MX mixers from 30 years ago… they sell for nothing and the knobs could maybe replace the ones on the more recent gear?
Is their Neve EQ copy available yet? 1273... Right? Dial channel. Preamps too? Was it?
Yeah it's definitely out, if you can find them in stock. Theyre a dual channel 1073 preamp and EQ. Could be good. Great price too. $1200-ish here i think.
Please compare this 369 vs wam audio bus comp. Which one would you prefer and why?
Alctron is good
I don’t have the warm audio but I have a real ssl buss comp I can shoot out against.
Right now I prefer the 369 on drums and the buss comp on the mix buss. The 369 is killer on rock drums. They sound bigger and more explosive. It gets a bit much on the mix buss. The ssl however glues the mix and adds some high frequency magic too.
They’re both great. Just depends on how you want to use them I guess.
@@diyrecordingstudio sounds good let's compare it with the SSL comp :)
How do you like them Sound Skulptor tape saturation units? I've had my eye on them for a while...
Theyre pretty cool. They currently live on my drum bus. They tame the cymbals and transients and saturate in a very cool way.
@@diyrecordingstudio Ta for the info! I have a couple of their vari-mu 500 serise comps and a tri-input 500 serise DI with the option of tube/FET/passive input .. and the FET mode absolutely kills it on bass, really brings out the thwap of the attack!!!
Where did you put that mic in to? What do you do at night when no one is looking?
Hahaha what do you mean?
What mic are you using here?
It’s a t67 from mic-parts.com
art pro dual tube gain level/revive audio review pls pls pls
Are you talking about the art pro vla II? Just so I know what unit you’re talking about
@@diyrecordingstudio yessir, the reviews are terrible but revive mod looks kinda promising. idk, maybe the warm audio bus comp is a better platform
Yeah i was looking at one just the other day actually. They just seem kinda plain sounding without a lot of mojo and sound more like my dbx 160 ccs comps than a tube comp. I’d be keen to try one irl though if I can get one.
The revive mods are interesting. I don’t know how effective some of them really are. I’m going to be modding some of my cheaper compressor units very soon
Looks like you did your best to “break” these knobs.
I’m not sure what you’re implying by “break” being in inverted commas. But the knob broke straight out of the box as I was lightly turning them, it’s an important issue people should know about. I replaced them straight away and the unit itself sounds awesome. Just the knobs are genuinely bad.
That lofi dross
is your intro music ??
How much cred did you lose
Not sticking around past the broken knobs.
Hahaha. It actually does sound good though.
Sería interesante una revisión de los clones que Alctron fabrica ¿serán buenos... Malos?
I’ve been trying to get my hands on these. I’d be very interested in those as they are so affordable too.
369, damn you fine!
Hahahaha! Nice. 👍
Well it is Behringer .
Any plugin !
Can you clarify?
I'm perturbed by the moral dilema Behringer presents me. On one hand they make extreamly affordable and highly useful and sort after gear avalible to everyone. But on the other, they buy out brands that have a great reputation and amazing quality products, and then destroy that reputation by making the cheapest possible version of their IP, and if they can't buy the IP they will outright rip off other people's designs.
I swore I'd never buy Behringer for these reasons, but every year they make it harder and harder for me, not only because they have so many other brands owned by the same umbrella corp. (Like Midas for example, whome I accidentally bought something from before I knew it was Behringer), but they are making some really nitche, hard to find gear, at a fraction of the originals cost....
Yeah I fully get you. It's a hard thing as a home studio engineer and having tight budgets, trying to justify significant purchases, especially when some companies are making terrific clones.
Not wanting to pay upwards of four grand for the real thing - that I can totally understand. But $500 for a Behringer is... I mean.... it's stunt gear that looks impressive from five feet away to people who don't know anything about pro audio gear. Stam and AudioScape both build very faithful, reliable 609-type comps - and both stand by their products (AudioScape would have the edge here as you wouldn't have to ship a busted unit to Chile).
For "Neve diode comp/limiter on a budget", you could always track down a used Black Lion AGB for the same price as the Behringer.
...or just save money/space/dignity and is Analog Audio's free VST plugin that sounds amazing!
Got a link to the plugin you're talking about? Do you mean analog obsession's britpressor? I can add it to the list of plugins i'll do a shootout with, but you might be sadly disappointed with the results.
Using plug ins are visualising the music, using Hardware are listen the music, i prefer to use my ears than the eyes
Is your analog gear invisible or something?
@@painremains-p7c Do you have produced and record with analog gears in the 80/90 without computer and coppy passt ????
@@DanyLeeRoth It's funny you say that, I can't see a difference. The plug-in has knobs just like the hardware. There may be a small difference in the sound, but I don't care as I'm a hobbyist and not chasing a 100% accurate reproduction.
I felt nuttn
Ewwww 😂
Maybe go nut in private dude. Hahaha.
What did you expect when you paid less than a tenth of what the original gear costs?
I get what you mean, but even good knobs are relatively cheap anyway. I replaced mine for a couple of bucks. They could’ve easily done them properly without adding to the cost of the device.
The sound of it is great though.
If you didn't turn up the gain I would have heard no difference.
Really? listen at 14:00 on mix buss and 16:00 on drum buss where i better gain match. There's a pretty obvious difference.
The only change I heard was when you took out of volume match and made it louder, nup
Someone else said the same thing. Head to 14:00 and 16:00 where I match things and have it dialled in. There’s a massive difference on the master buss, especially with the limiter engaged. On the drums at 16:00 have a listen once I add guitars back in. When it switches in the drums come up in the mix but not aggressively forward, they sound bigger and punchier.
its the guy from 2 and a half men.
Didn’t you comment this on another video? What’s your obsession with 2 and a half men? 😂
@@diyrecordingstudio is it how many he can fit up his chunter? 😂
@ bruh it’s the first I think of every time your videos pop up! Great content tho!
The crucial question is this : Is it better than a plugin or not..
Yeah I’ll have a shootout vid very soon.
I'll never buy anything behringer that does any kind of processing , their power amps are decent tho
I get where you're coming from, however this unit miught be a turning point for them in audio. Their Synths have been doing well and these are sold out in a lot of places. They sound very good!
A "Do not touch the knobs" sign would be nice. Disgraceful.
Yeah it’s pretty disappointing. They’re very cheap and nasty. Luckily it’s cheap to replace them.
Yes that was my question.. are these replaceable with a higher better grade of knobs / buttons??
Where do you suggest we get them from??
Just save up another 1500 bucks and buy a real one. You get the better noise floor, real Neve pedigree that people want and will pay for, real metal knobs, Can you get some thing that was built in England without child labor…. Or you could buy the cheap crap and keep the child labor forces in business and have people laugh at you because you’re on a piece of shit like this.
Warm has the same problem.
"Don't touch that dial!" Studio jargon
So a loudmax plug in… got it
Hahah what mean dude?
There's a reason top studios use outboard compressors
Well, LoudMax is a limiter, not a compressor. It sounds fantastic, but it's a limiter.
Check out Frankie Tedesco's epic 50 limiter shootout to hear how good LoudMax is.
Hard to listen when the drummer is floating with his tempo...
ART make an "affordable DB compressor" already.
And hey...."DIY Studio" ?? Build your own diode bridge compressor. Why waste money on a mass-produced cheap copy??