.40 vs .45 vs .50 Caliber Muzzleloader Bullets | Muzzle-Loaders Podcast Bonus Episode

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  • @joshmatty1077
    @joshmatty1077 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm from New Mexico, and have hammered big bulls with my TC 50 cal. @ 300 yards with pass through.

    • @johnnewcomb5162
      @johnnewcomb5162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What are you using for powder and what round?

    • @joshmatty1077
      @joshmatty1077 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @johnnewcomb5162 my set is TC encore pro hunting 209x50 120 gr. With a 300 thor bullet I have used a Parker productions as well, did the job but that thor puts a hole in them

  • @williamgregory6684
    @williamgregory6684 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I would like to see the basic CVA Wolf, Traditions Buckstalker and Tracker in 40,45,50,54,and 58 calibers.I Would like to see those same platforms in 8,10,12,16 and 20 gauge single barrel shotguns. Wouldn't that be fun and wouldn't break the 🏦 bank

    • @austinlewis3273
      @austinlewis3273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I own a traditions muzzleloader shotgun. 12 gauge

    • @markhall1169
      @markhall1169 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love new guns boy they'd look sweet 😆 Great idea

  • @GoldenClays1
    @GoldenClays1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have an older model CVA Hunter-Bolt .45 Cal Magnum which I absolutely love. It feels like a regular rifle to me. Recommended Load is 295gr Powerbelt Bullet and 100 Gr of Powder. Good Stuff!

  • @bobbystevens4087
    @bobbystevens4087 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I would love to see a 40 caliber in the Acura

  • @sirjhonson8218
    @sirjhonson8218 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a CVA .45 cal. and a .54 cal. Hawken. I have trouble finding ammo for both. I have to cast and size my own Minnie Ball bullet. They work well. Been working well for me.

  • @Bowdock
    @Bowdock ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In my opinion there is a great need to make breakopen guns look and have the feel of Real guns that they really don’t have now. Classic feel with Classic looks!

  • @gerryjames9720
    @gerryjames9720 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I long ago came to despise sabots. Really wish we'd had these advanced full bore projectiles when I still hunted the ML season. I might have continued.

  • @joeltowle2737
    @joeltowle2737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Inline small caliber for squirrel! Pic rail for scope or red dot.

  • @nathansmith8969
    @nathansmith8969 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    40 cals are now legal to hunt with in Virginia and looking to drop down from 50 to 45 or 40 as I get older.

  • @nmhvactech5474
    @nmhvactech5474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Any plans for CVA to increase the barrel twist speed in the 50 cal Accura’s from 1:28 to something like 1:24 or 1:22 to stabilize the longer ELR type Bullets on the market. I think this would help the 50 cal.
    What’s the max charge for the new Accura LR-x and MR-x rifles using in White Hots or Firestar pellets, Blackhorn 209 powder ( by weight ) ?
    Does CVA and PowerBelt recommend the 50 cal ELR ( 270 gr or 330 gr ) bullets in the Accura rifles?
    FYI I’ll be testing both out of my rifle, but I haven’t seen much info / data on the newer 270 gr bullets.

    • @MuzzleLoaderscom
      @MuzzleLoaderscom  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As far as I am aware, CVA does not plan to change the twist rate in the .50 caliber Accuras any time soon.
      CVA Accura Magnum Charges:
      IMR White Hots Pellets: 3 50-grain pellets
      FireStars Pellets: 5 33-grain Pellets
      Blackhorn 209: 84-grains (measured by weight)
      CVA does recommend using the ELR bullet in the .50 caliber Accura models. We have found that you will have better results using a magnum charge with that bullet.

  • @nickcolombo2324
    @nickcolombo2324 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This .40 caliber is on .54 caliber tc renegade i bought in 1972 when i came back from vietnam,i needed something that was harder to hunt with if you know what i mean

  • @kendallfields6185
    @kendallfields6185 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anybody notice the hang fire at 9:12, also at 10:19

  • @markhall1169
    @markhall1169 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If u had to choose between the Traditions strikerfire vapr or the cva accura mr-x 45 cal. Which 1?

  • @draconian6692
    @draconian6692 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love to see a super long range 40 cal cva. Maybe even a 35" barrel

  • @barrykrohn2229
    @barrykrohn2229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are great very informative but would like to see you guys put together a video of what muzzleloader hunters have to use here in the northwest Oregon, and Idaho as far as your Recommendations on bullets, powder and caps hope you can put together best recommendations even rifle

  • @cjr4497
    @cjr4497 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In my state a 35 Whelen is a muzzleloader, LOL. I wish we would go back to only actual muzzleloading rifles for the primitive firearms season. The added pressure really took a toll on our public land deer numbers.

  • @metroplexchl
    @metroplexchl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would you use .40 for black bear?

  • @rooster72886
    @rooster72886 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a cva 40 cal inline last year got for 150 bucks but my question is do you just put your charge blocks in and then a sabot bullet or do they need that I call em wad that the bullet goes on a 50 cal this is my 1st muzzleloader that isn't a 50 cal so curious so I don't damage anything

  • @larrycouch560
    @larrycouch560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 10.08 in this video, what brand/style 209 capper is used?

    • @MuzzleLoaderscom
      @MuzzleLoaderscom  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is the CVA Magnetic Capper. I will include a link to it below.
      muzzle-loaders.com/products/cvar-variflametm-magnetic-capper-tool-ac1723

  • @jowhi9296
    @jowhi9296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can these be used in other muzzleloaders like TC encore

  • @brucelewis1017
    @brucelewis1017 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since cva is coming out with 40 and 45 cal they should bring the 54 cal back in the inline

  • @atubeviewer4942
    @atubeviewer4942 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont see a CVA link where I can see the ballistics he was referring to. Do you have it?

  • @bobboyer9440
    @bobboyer9440 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't seen this kind of reporting on round ball. Is there a video available?

    • @draconian6692
      @draconian6692 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why tf you want a round ball???😂 the whole point is getting a high bc projectile

  • @bobbygreen2291
    @bobbygreen2291 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chad did you recently here that story of the hunter in Mississippi,,he bought the new forty cal CVA,,Took it hunting for the first time ,,got a deer , then turned over his boat and lost all the footage his brand new CVA and everything,, almost died ,,but survived and made a video about it ,,DIY do it yourself hunter

    • @josephlay288
      @josephlay288 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Damnit man! If you have a chance post the link to that if dont minds.. Hes deff lucky to be alive. . .🤦 that had to be one of the most costly mistakes if he lost it all! One expensive hunt!

    • @bobbygreen2291
      @bobbygreen2291 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@josephlay288 his you tube channel is called do it yourself hunter in Mississippi

  • @dbzryder
    @dbzryder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any thoughts on an in-line shotgun? Maybe a double barrel in-line shotgun? In some states you are allowed to take dear with a shotgun. I have a double barrel shotgun made by Pedersoli that I take bird hunting and would like to see something offered in an in-line...

    • @MuzzleLoaderscom
      @MuzzleLoaderscom  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are a few inline shotguns out there currently. Unfortunately, we do not have any on our website but I would recommend checking out the Knight TK2000.

  • @soonerfrac4611
    @soonerfrac4611 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’d like to see Hornady’s Bore Rider ELD-X in 40 & 45.

  • @yeetarmyitstimeforgoodtime8958
    @yeetarmyitstimeforgoodtime8958 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can understand using a .40 or a .50 caliber with bullets but with a round ball and traditional muzzleloader I would use at least a .50

  • @jeffhays1968
    @jeffhays1968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    was going to get a Woodman Arms in .40 but just looked up Mass rules. No go ! gotta be a .45 or bigger

    • @draconian6692
      @draconian6692 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sadly

    • @jeffhays1968
      @jeffhays1968 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@draconian6692 now modern inline muzzle loaders are banned for non residents and residents need an FID or LTC and a different permit for the powder and bullets too. Welcome to freedom.

  • @draconian6692
    @draconian6692 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wish 40 cal was legal to hunt with in CT. We need lobbyists to petition places where muzzle loader hunting is prevelent

  • @nickcolombo2324
    @nickcolombo2324 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How accuret is a .40 caliber round ball

  • @bignlittleoutdoorstexascam3031
    @bignlittleoutdoorstexascam3031 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    im a cva original in the early 2000s i loved it wish i would of never let my friend take it out in the rain it killed it he lefed it in his trunk iv thaken deer out to 300 it was amazing acuity 120 loose pyrodex powder and 195 yellow band power belt 209 winchester primer

  • @nickcolombo2324
    @nickcolombo2324 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had my .40 cal made for targets

  • @TheBowdoc1
    @TheBowdoc1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks like the 40 is dead before it even got out of the gate. I didn’t see a single listing in the 2023 CVA catalog.😕
    Can’t wait to see some videos on the new Paramount V2! I like the stock change. Looks like a different sight on the Colorado edition too.

  • @charliemcelwain8874
    @charliemcelwain8874 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you don't have flint lock or cap lock u don't have a muzzloder

  • @taurushipointenthusiast1306
    @taurushipointenthusiast1306 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plain lead such as Thompson Centers Cheap Shots out perform all the copper and copper jackets, ME CALIBER NOT SO MUCH, States have their own guidelines, But the bullet choice out of a muzzle loader, In many instances I find plain ol round ball out performing Shock Wave, Power Belts and the like.yeah sure scientifically they out perform round ball, but practically in real world that round ball at 100 yards or less is so much better and more devastating. Now out of a smokeless muzzle loader odds will favor the belted power ball, shock wave and the likes there of, They tend to get the speed and power needed. But hey I mean there is tons of evidence supporting but it aint none of my business

  • @haoshito5754
    @haoshito5754 ปีที่แล้ว

    So if .40 can go with speed of 2700 ft/s , and it weighs about 190 grain, it potentially could kill a bear and something more??? Noice

    • @jonathonlang1844
      @jonathonlang1844 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No potentially, it would do well on most all north american game.

  • @James_Barris
    @James_Barris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No .44?🤷‍♂️

    • @emilymiller1853
      @emilymiller1853 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why would they waste their time? No need for a .44 when you have .45 shooting .357 and 40 Cal projectiles

  • @TOPGUNMPD08
    @TOPGUNMPD08 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The new technology seems great. These new muzzleloaders lòok suspiciously like bolt action center fire rifles. I think im going to pass. My 50 cal shooting 45 cal sabot ftx bullets does everything I need it to do. Im not the guy who needs to extend my effective range past 300yds. The majority of all hunters have no business shooting further anyways.

    • @ALPHA-SIGMA-i2p
      @ALPHA-SIGMA-i2p 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol really? i guess you never heard of or shot a 300 weatherby magnum, i have dumped white tail, moose, Elk, out to 600 yards, and thats my buisness, professionalism, skills, all tied up into 1.. im also white and free.......

    • @TOPGUNMPD08
      @TOPGUNMPD08 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ALPHA-SIGMA-i2p Yeah looks like you missed my point. I said the "majority" of hunters have no business shooting past 300 yards. No doubt you're the exception. I realize there are "professionals", like yourself, that take game 600 yds and beyond. However, special equipment, skill, and practice is required.

  • @Archiballd123
    @Archiballd123 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont get you Americans...Why you use 100grn BP to shot on fire range on 50 m??? I use 50 kal "Hawken" Hunter Pedersoli and i use 48-72 depens of round ball or real or 480grn conical like..( accuracy with biger bp loads it worst) I dont need more ,but you use 100 or 120 bp ( i see even 3x50 pellets of 777) why? I always want to question this... ( sorry for my eng)

    • @emilymiller1853
      @emilymiller1853 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂 because you don't know what your shot distance when you see listing your rifle bubba. Keep shooting paper and private game. Real hunting is variable

    • @draconian6692
      @draconian6692 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More velocity =best velocity

  • @luckyjim51
    @luckyjim51 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is only 50 cal in the stores... to much recoil..!! Dumb....!!

  • @mikel.4885
    @mikel.4885 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Stay away from power belts...

    • @bobjoatmon1993
      @bobjoatmon1993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why?
      I simply don't understand people who make an accusation but don't explain why. Do you think everyone else is a mind reader and just knows what you think.
      Here's the straight skinny on your type of comment... It impresses nobody and is ignored by everyone because it doesn't help them evaluate anything.

    • @mikel.4885
      @mikel.4885 ปีที่แล้ว

      @BOB Joatmon power belts are trash they dont group well and if you manage to hit a deer with one they dont leave good blood trails

  • @stephenvalastro5678
    @stephenvalastro5678 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why you would use anything less than a 50cal is stupid