Great to hear the real reason to use the Vari-flame plug. I reload and was not convinced until I heard the explanation given in this video. Great episode, thank you
You guys are a true God send! I was labeled a felon over some bs fight for protecting my mom in FL, and they took my gun rights away and it made me depressed cuz it felt like I was castrated. Then I just moved to TX for work an learned literally last night, that after 5 years your gun rights are automatically restored here and we can have muzzleloaders and I instantly felt comforted that I can hunt my own food and protect my family. Thank you for everything y'all do, truly.
Well since you're relegated to the ahoy matey home defense plan, I'd have a few around in different places if there's adults and no rambunctious pets around. Still gotta hold down the fort even if you can't get the good stuff.
AWESOME, I got into black powder about 8-10 years ago and in just that time the leaps made in the technology is off the charts. Now being me I found a fondness with the Buck Horn Magnum and my Bolt action then up runs QRBP, then these off rifle primers. Yes it is awesome.
I've got three CVA inlines, an Optima V2 LR, an old Hunterbolt magnum and just bought a Wolf, the least expensive of your whole line. My comment is about the triggers that come from the factory on the CVA Muzzleloaders. Fantastic! Even the very reasonably priced Wolf has a trigger than would be right at home on anybody's favorite long-range rifle. You don't have to do anything but think about it and the shot is off. Some have asked why someone that owns an Optima V2 LR would buy a Wolf? Well, it's light, short, handy, more like an old 30-30 to make it simple if you're hunting in thick brush where all shots are likely to be close range and may have to be fast it may be the rifle for you. Not that it won't shoot out to longer distances, It certainly will. I left the open fiber optic sights on mine and out to a hundred yards or, so they are perfectly adequate to do the job. I don't have access to the in vogue Blackhorn 209 powder in my area and it's so high priced I'm not sure I'd buy it if I could but don't let that stop you. I shoot mostly the T-7 Firestar pellets or Pyrodex pellets and they shoot plenty good with either. With the quick removable breech plugs cleanup is a fifteen-minute deal and very easy. I've found swabbing with a cleaning patch and a couple of dry patches to be more necessary with these powders as they do create a fire ring very quickly and you want that bullet all the way down on the powder for sure. Swabbing the bore just makes it easier but it can still be done even after several shots.
I also absolutely love my Wolf! It's one of their older versions of the break-away. This gun loves to eat venison and has never let me down. I agree about the lightness and ease of carry. I would not trade it for the world. However, whatever you do, don't ever remove the three pins that hold the trigger! It's a nightmare to figure out and reassemble. Thinking about buying a newer version of the Wolf with the finger thread breech plug.
CVA was not the first to use nitride on a muzzleloader. LHR used it years before that on a rifle called the Redemption. They sold the company to T/C who renamed it Strike.
What is the actual bore diameter? Many of the custom builders have been starting with a projectile 2 thousands oversized And smooth sizing down to a precision fit With fantastic results. It would be nice to have that option
Would you consider producing a shotgun on the Wolf action muzzleloaders for us folks who don't have a whole lot of disposable cash to spend. You have 8,10,12,16,20,28,.410 to choose from,even rifled barrel. My take is that you're missing out on a whole new market. How about wolf action rifles in .40 and.45 ,.54,.58 calibers?How about a traditional War Between the States era carbine at a reasonable price in matching .31,.36, and .44 caliber to use the same pistol rounds. How about an over and under derringer like the great gun in Eastern Europe (Hungary I think?) In .45,.50,.54 or at least import theirs? Just some ideas I would like to see happen. Thanks
What I don't understand about muzzleloader design is why they wont make the barrel a super magnum that can take above 170 by volume. Everyone loves power. If you created a 200 grain muzzleloader with long distance accuracy it would sell like hotcakes. Not many would care about the recoil when you can take a moose at 700 yards.
Adding a bit of velocity isn't going to help that much. There is a functional limitation of black powder substitutes.. as well as.. the more efficient and effective you make muzzleloaders.. the more legal restrictions will evolve.. just like with crossbows taking over archery. 👎 👎
I don’t believe Knight made invented the inline muzzleloader. H&R made the “Huntsman” in the 70’s. I have an old .45cal that I’ve had since the mid 70’s. It wasn’t eru reliable with the percussion cap. A friend of my father’s that we hunted with gave me a clipping from a magazine for a nipple to shoot 209 shotgun primers. I bought it and have been using it 45+ years now. I never had a misfire with rifle after that. So give some love and credit to the old H&R.
Rick Taylor with CVA says that he does not recommend using a max load due to primer pressure. Matt shot with Rick yesterday and they put 90 grains of Blackhorn 209 in an Accura and experienced the primer getting stuck on several attempts. He recommends using around 80 grains of Blackhorn 209 by volume in your gun.
@tnwildlife you guys use a large rifle primer ? My lr-x they said 77gr by weight but I've wanted to try loads up to 80, you guys have done this already? Thanks
Well I've killed deer at 175-200 few times with plain ole inline..lol... 300$ but guess if I had the $$ and ran out of guns to buy ...I would buy one..
Wow, so innovative, Hankins rifles has been building bolt action, smokeless powder muzzle loaders with a collapsible ramrod. 325 grain bullet shooting 3150 fps, and 1/2 Mia accuracy. Way to steal tech from small custom builders.
@@joshlower1 that is literally an ignorant statement. The Hankins rifle is more advanced and has been around longer. Acting like you came up with some innovative tech, like not having a ramrod attached to your barrel is just stealing ideas. Deal with that.
Sorry Roy, but you are the ignorant party here. Hankins, Horak, and all the other custom builders don't offer this technology. They offer $5000 rifles that take months to build. CVA is offering an affordable rifle off the shelf with performance that comes close to a custom smokeless gun. There is apparently a market for that. If the other guys want to dive in to that market there's nothing stopping them.
@@10-4CodyWade I said the Hankins rifle is more technologically advanced and they have been around for quite a while, so this using a breach plug with magnum primers, custom barrels, rifle stocks and collapsible ramrods that aren’t attached is not new and innovative as this video claims. I made no claims about price or availability. The word ignorant literally means, “Lacking knowledge, information or awareness about a particular thing.” I own a Hankins rifle and have for years so I would not be the one making an ignorant comment. I stated an obvious fact.
I disagree having shot all kinds of muzzleloaders the attraction is the call of self loading your rifle like the way they did in the beginning. I appreciate early 23:43 Ml rifles and modern in-line rifles as well.
the whole point of muzzleloader season was to use traditional flint or percussion side lock weapons like they used in the past! if you are going to allow modern inline weapons that are comparable to cartridge weapons using smokeless powder with optics that can shoot 500 to 600 yards+ the state of Tennessee and every other state needs to make a separate MODERN MUZZLELOADER SEASON! the way things are now is a complete violation of the spirit of the law and needs to be corrected !
What gave you this idea? Wildlife management agencies don't care about preserving traditional styles of hunting. They care about selling tags and appeasing the masses.
Edwin Cathey I agree. Where I live muzzle loader are allowed in certain areas because they are considered short range and therefore safe. With these long range weapons we will loose access to a lot of hunting opportunities.
Great to hear the real reason to use the Vari-flame plug. I reload and was not convinced until I heard the explanation given in this video. Great episode, thank you
Thanks for watching and for your feedback! We're glad the explanation was helpful and could make a difference for you. Happy (and safe) reloading!
You guys are a true God send! I was labeled a felon over some bs fight for protecting my mom in FL, and they took my gun rights away and it made me depressed cuz it felt like I was castrated. Then I just moved to TX for work an learned literally last night, that after 5 years your gun rights are automatically restored here and we can have muzzleloaders and I instantly felt comforted that I can hunt my own food and protect my family. Thank you for everything y'all do, truly.
Well since you're relegated to the ahoy matey home defense plan, I'd have a few around in different places if there's adults and no rambunctious pets around. Still gotta hold down the fort even if you can't get the good stuff.
"labeled a felon" 😂😂
Not true. If your conviction was in Florida, then Texas can do nothing about it. Check out Big Bore Airguns, amazing stuff as well...
Wow! Get that powder away from the muzzle!
AWESOME, I got into black powder about 8-10 years ago and in just that time the leaps made in the technology is off the charts. Now being me I found a fondness with the Buck Horn Magnum and my Bolt action then up runs QRBP, then these off rifle primers. Yes it is awesome.
Awesome presentation love those rifles come a long way
I never knew it wasn’t till you said something here on TH-cam I didn’t know that you can get that sophisticated with it that’s awesome
Fantastic smoke poles.. have 2 CVAS ..45CAL Pro hunter. Wolf 50cal.
I've got three CVA inlines, an Optima V2 LR, an old Hunterbolt magnum and just bought a Wolf, the least expensive of your whole line. My comment is about the triggers that come from the factory on the CVA Muzzleloaders. Fantastic! Even the very reasonably priced Wolf has a trigger than would be right at home on anybody's favorite long-range rifle. You don't have to do anything but think about it and the shot is off. Some have asked why someone that owns an Optima V2 LR would buy a Wolf? Well, it's light, short, handy, more like an old 30-30 to make it simple if you're hunting in thick brush where all shots are likely to be close range and may have to be fast it may be the rifle for you. Not that it won't shoot out to longer distances, It certainly will. I left the open fiber optic sights on mine and out to a hundred yards or, so they are perfectly adequate to do the job. I don't have access to the in vogue Blackhorn 209 powder in my area and it's so high priced I'm not sure I'd buy it if I could but don't let that stop you. I shoot mostly the T-7 Firestar pellets or Pyrodex pellets and they shoot plenty good with either. With the quick removable breech plugs cleanup is a fifteen-minute deal and very easy. I've found swabbing with a cleaning patch and a couple of dry patches to be more necessary with these powders as they do create a fire ring very quickly and you want that bullet all the way down on the powder for sure. Swabbing the bore just makes it easier but it can still be done even after several shots.
I also absolutely love my Wolf! It's one of their older versions of the break-away. This gun loves to eat venison and has never let me down. I agree about the lightness and ease of carry. I would not trade it for the world. However, whatever you do, don't ever remove the three pins that hold the trigger! It's a nightmare to figure out and reassemble. Thinking about buying a newer version of the Wolf with the finger thread breech plug.
CVA was not the first to use nitride on a muzzleloader. LHR used it years before that on a rifle called the Redemption. They sold the company to T/C who renamed it Strike.
I got a inline out to three hundred I'm good here we hunt the woods most shots one hundred yards but sometimes you need that little extra
Jeff hankins been ahead of some of these todate as the collapsed ramrod.
I use my ML for deer hunting, state regulations where I live, bullet must be 45cal or larger.
Ya sold me
Nice... just place the advertised powder near the blast zone of a side port brake.👍
Lol!
What is the actual bore diameter? Many of the custom builders have been starting with a projectile 2 thousands oversized And smooth sizing down to a precision fit With fantastic results. It would be nice to have that option
Would you consider producing a shotgun on the Wolf action muzzleloaders for us folks who don't have a whole lot of disposable cash to spend. You have 8,10,12,16,20,28,.410 to choose from,even rifled barrel. My take is that you're missing out on a whole new market. How about wolf action rifles in .40 and.45 ,.54,.58 calibers?How about a traditional War Between the States era carbine at a reasonable price in matching .31,.36, and .44 caliber to use the same pistol rounds. How about an over and under derringer like the great gun in Eastern Europe (Hungary I think?) In .45,.50,.54 or at least import theirs? Just some ideas I would like to see happen. Thanks
Great ideas! I'd love to have a Wolf shotgun and a .40 Cal muzzy!
I’m from Sneedville TN
Only ignition powder or can you also use ignition pellets?
What I don't understand about muzzleloader design is why they wont make the barrel a super magnum that can take above 170 by volume. Everyone loves power. If you created a 200 grain muzzleloader with long distance accuracy it would sell like hotcakes. Not many would care about the recoil when you can take a moose at 700 yards.
Adding a bit of velocity isn't going to help that much. There is a functional limitation of black powder substitutes.. as well as.. the more efficient and effective you make muzzleloaders.. the more legal restrictions will evolve.. just like with crossbows taking over archery. 👎 👎
I need one of those ml's
I don’t believe Knight made invented the inline muzzleloader. H&R made the “Huntsman” in the 70’s. I have an old .45cal that I’ve had since the mid 70’s. It wasn’t eru reliable with the percussion cap. A friend of my father’s that we hunted with gave me a clipping from a magazine for a nipple to shoot 209 shotgun primers. I bought it and have been using it 45+ years now. I never had a misfire with rifle after that. So give some love and credit to the old H&R.
So what is the point of making it a bolt action? Genuinely curious
Accuracy nothing else can match .
@@bobgyetvai9444 gotcha but what makes it accurate?
@@melvinsacromentoe its 1 piece !!! A hinged rifle cant compete with that .
@@bobgyetvai9444 ahh ok
Yall say the paramount is shooting over 300 yards the knight mountaineer is shooting over 400 yards
Hello is this rifle available in the htr as you have it here ? in the green ?
Try contacting Rick Taylor @tntrkyhntr or Tony Smotherman @travelinhunter on social media. They should be able to point you in the right direction.
@@tnwildlife thank you for trying I reached out to both sadly no reply
what is my max powder load by weight for my lrx in 45.what primer should i use and are there any up grades thanks.
Rick Taylor with CVA says that he does not recommend using a max load due to primer pressure. Matt shot with Rick yesterday and they put 90 grains of Blackhorn 209 in an Accura and experienced the primer getting stuck on several attempts. He recommends using around 80 grains of Blackhorn 209 by volume in your gun.
@tnwildlife you guys use a large rifle primer ? My lr-x they said 77gr by weight but I've wanted to try loads up to 80, you guys have done this already? Thanks
In a .45 cal
Can a cva Accura 209 breach plug in converted to rifle primer ignition?
Well I've killed deer at 175-200 few times with plain ole inline..lol... 300$ but guess if I had the $$ and ran out of guns to buy ...I would buy one..
You guys are nuts. Look where that can of powder is setting when you shoot. That’s not safe just saying
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Not real smart shooting with powder on the table that close to the fireworks..be safe
Wow, so innovative, Hankins rifles has been building bolt action, smokeless powder muzzle loaders with a collapsible ramrod. 325 grain bullet shooting 3150 fps, and 1/2 Mia accuracy. Way to steal tech from small custom builders.
Technology advances. Deal with it.
@@joshlower1 that is literally an ignorant statement. The Hankins rifle is more advanced and has been around longer. Acting like you came up with some innovative tech, like not having a ramrod attached to your barrel is just stealing ideas. Deal with that.
Sorry Roy, but you are the ignorant party here. Hankins, Horak, and all the other custom builders don't offer this technology. They offer $5000 rifles that take months to build. CVA is offering an affordable rifle off the shelf with performance that comes close to a custom smokeless gun. There is apparently a market for that. If the other guys want to dive in to that market there's nothing stopping them.
@@10-4CodyWade I said the Hankins rifle is more technologically advanced and they have been around for quite a while, so this using a breach plug with magnum primers, custom barrels, rifle stocks and collapsible ramrods that aren’t attached is not new and innovative as this video claims. I made no claims about price or availability. The word ignorant literally means, “Lacking knowledge, information or awareness about a particular thing.” I own a Hankins rifle and have for years so I would not be the one making an ignorant comment. I stated an obvious fact.
But it's not a true muzzleloader. Real men shoot real muzzleloader with real black powder and percussion caps or flints.
It's not a real muzzleloader unless it is a matchlock
It's not a real muzzleloader unless it is a matchlock
I disagree having shot all kinds of muzzleloaders the attraction is the call of self loading your rifle like the way they did in the beginning. I appreciate early 23:43 Ml rifles and modern in-line rifles as well.
the whole point of muzzleloader season was to use traditional flint or percussion side lock weapons like they used in the past! if you are going to allow modern inline weapons that are comparable to cartridge weapons using smokeless powder with optics that can shoot 500 to 600 yards+ the state of Tennessee and every other state needs to make a separate MODERN MUZZLELOADER SEASON! the way things are now is a complete violation of the spirit of the law and needs to be corrected !
What gave you this idea? Wildlife management agencies don't care about preserving traditional styles of hunting. They care about selling tags and appeasing the masses.
Is that all you traditional guys can do is whine and bitch ?? Jeez......
Edwin Cathey I agree. Where I live muzzle loader are allowed in certain areas because they are considered short range and therefore safe. With these long range weapons we will loose access to a lot of hunting opportunities.
It's all about money on both sides.