Hearthstone Player Tries Magic: The Gathering Draft For The First Time
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ส.ค. 2022
- Rarran has never played magic arena draft, he has only seen cards from when guessed how good magic cards are with pvvdr. Hearthstone is not too different from Magic right?
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This video is what happens to new players that play draft for the first time.
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Diving into a Kamigawa Neon Dynasty draft as a new player is bold. Deck looked pretty okay for a first time drafter too.
How come? I've just started and I've bought Neon Dynasty packs and haven't found anything too overwhelming
@@maxydal3512 It's a very, very good draft format, but it's heavily focused on interweaving synergies. The overlap between artifacts, enchantments, the tribes, and themes of the colors makes for a complex drafting experience.
not bold, i think it's the only quick draft format available on mtg arena right now, and it's cheaper and you have more time to draft so he probably thought that was a better idea for stream
yeah men, NEO sure is quite harsh to draft even for experience players
@@thatrespectablehuman1884 it's very brave to Draft not knowing Anything. Very bold to do a draft period.
You can always try and collab with Day9 and do a "learning Magic" series. If he has the time I'm sure he would love to help you learn how to draft and build decks.
Everyone pls like this comment, Rarran NEEDS to do this! That would be awesome :D
You think big creators care about small ones?
Day9 is a content creator and entertainer. He's actually pretty bad overall at Magic, especially when it comes to drafting and evaluating new cards.
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Rarrans a true hs player. Litterally having anxiety from having to read cards
as it has always been. Hearthstone remains Magic for dummies. Fun game but the skill level required is not even in the same galaxy.
He tried to play YuGiOh a few months ago, but he is still reading his first card
My favorite part of this: whenever Rarran's opponent plays something new, he immediately thinks he's dead 🤣
yeah, man. the amount of times he asked "am i just dead now" was hilarious.
While Neon Dynasty is arguably the best draft set we've had in years, it's also one of the most difficult, especially for new players. There's a TON of text in that set, and a bunch of fairly new magic tech that isn't always the most understandable (Vehicles, Sagas, and even Ninjutsu, while old, can be pretty confusing). You did awesome all things considered, and you would've felt much less overwhelmed with sets like Adventure's in the Forgotten Realms, or even Midnight Hunt, but you really jumped into the deep end here.
I mean he'd do much better if he took the time to read what the effects did.
@@brutusthecat6044 He's 5 years old though. He can't really read and has no attention span.
@@Ceracio makes sense starting MTG for the first time would make you feel like a child
@@rattusgrenadus8291 If you are a half decent OCG/TCG player in another game you atleast somewhat understand deck theory and the idea of formats/tier lists, and with that knowledge Magic isn't super difficult to get into. I hit Mythic in my first 2 months of playing Magic just abusing Eldraine mono red while learning the game, discovered that Magic is by far the best TCG ever made and now I play Pioneer/Modern weekly in paper too 🤣
@@TJE.13 okay fair points, but also Eldraine was just a bonkers broken set. And once everything in Simic got banned (Oko, Once Upon, Veil), Red aggro was a constant high tier deck. Embercleave was probably the single strongest unbanned card in that period.
Someone please tell him he can right click anything to permanently bring it up on the screen to read.
Thanks for posting more MTG content, I love it
Definitely a premature second concede when you had the ability to make a 5/6 menace.
As someone who's been dipping in and out of magic since 1997, all I can say is you're only doing it wrong if you're not having fun. Turning everything sideways is a valid tactic. The issue you're having is that you're playing with a high complexity set and drafting in general is a skill in itself including knowing the cards and the meta
Just some tips- if you're mana flooded (too many lands), consider holding the land in hand - either for discard value or to bluff your opponent into thinking you have a combat trick.
For drafting, BREAD is the acromyn to start with. In terms of what to chose to pick... bombs, removal, evasion, aggro, duds.
I do think when you are new and learning it's usually worthwhile to play out a match even if you think it's over. Having the sense for when a HS game is over early on doesn't directly translate to having the same sense for MtG for starters, especially since MtG has a LOT of catch-up mechanics and cards compared to HS. But also, even if the game is over, navigating those later turns will still teach you a good amount.
But also, MtG is a game that's not about quick glances to understand cards much in the way HS is...you often really need to read the cards in MtG. In Arena you can right click on a card to bring it up to read it, which I think would make a night and day difference for you in terms of understanding what is going on. They don't expect you to read the cards in the short animation flash when your opponent plays it...that flash is just to tell you which card is being played (and assuming that you are generally familiar with the card).
Suggestion: once you have enough lands, keep one or two in hand. Just to let them think you are not topdecking
Nah its better for newer players to just make their landdrops. Bad advice.
@@AngoDecay kinda depends on whats in the deck but i wouldnt say its straight up bad
As someone who has played a lot of Magic, this was honestly really impressive for a first deck. I think your HS background definitely helped. Well done!
After completing all the color challenges, you get quests which in total give you 10 standard 60 card decks.
As a massive mtg player this was the cutest shit. Getting excited over mediocre cards is great content. You somehow made a decent deck, keep up the great work!!
I had that reaction too! I hope he does more MTG content. It's my favorite game.
2:16 rarran asking "pog?" Over what is basically a boulderfist ogre is hilarious
10:40 we nicknamed this card "Behold the unbeatable", it's an uncommon bomb in draft, it's better than most rares in this set.
It's a damn monster because it does everything blue wants to be doing. Debuff, card draw, scrying, flying creature that synergizes with card draw
I fucking love this card. Should've been a rare. Even mythic would be fair
Ironically, "this has too much text and is too complicated" is actually a very good mindset to have in Magic drafting, and a problem a lot of lower skilled players deal with.
Just a hint for the future: You kept playing your basic lands, despite already having more than you need. Since you can act on your opponent's turn you can bluff that you might have an Instant spell by keeping the land that you don't need in your hand.
People do this way more than they should. The minimal value you get from bluffing isn’t worth it compared to situations where you many need the mana in most cases. If you have a reason to hold lands, great, but I wouldn’t do it to bluff.
@@claytonnewlon3747 bluffing vs handhate is huge, nothing better than watching duress fizzle
@@Verienn that's nice and all, but this is a draft, it's completely pointless to bluff for duress
@@stanislav328 that was the first handhate spell I thought off. But imagine enemy drops virus beetle and the only card on your hand is a bomb. You will be very glad u kept the land number 9/10 in your hand
@@claytonnewlon3747 In draft it's correct most of the time to hold one land when topdecking. If you draw a second land, play it out, so when you draw a nonland you can play the land in hand and still have the maximum amount of mana while keeping a card in hand as a bluff or to discard. There are obviously situantions where it's important to have that mana on the board for activated abilities or tax effects/conditional counters by the enemy, but absent those reasons it's usually worth to keep the land in hand.
I've been playing Magic back and forth for 20 years and the first draft of a new set is always overwhelming! Even more for this set, which has tons of text, keyword and synergies
Love that you're playing Magic. Would be awesome if you did a deep dive to get really good at it, maybe invite Paulo to tutor you.
Yeah it would be awesome if he started playing mtg it’s just a better card game imo
@Grichka Bogdanoff yeah it really is the best I can still remember playing it when it first came out we would all rush to the card store to get cards lol
This was amazing!
And in regards to complexity, it's not your fault not having any idea what's going on; complexity has generally went upwards A LOT in the recent years, particularly this draft format.
Watching you struggle as an old player is indescribably wholesome. So do more of this!
As a magic player. This was awsome to watch. Poggers my friend
So glad he learned the first thing about magic: always have card draw
It was hard watching you pass that Satoru Umezawa in the second pack but still a good video. Ninjutsu is good with some of the artifact creatures in this set (Circuit Mender, Papercraft Decoy, Virus Beetle) because you can bounce them to re-use or get their effect.
I'm subscribing for magic man! Keep em coming! Awesome vid! 👍
Rarran your content is so freaking good man, I am officially a Stan.
thanks dude! hope you enjoyed this one
@@Rarran bro this one was so stressful :D Great content tho!
My favorite part is when u dont attack and question if u should attack and i dont know if u should attack but u attack then lose
Been loving your content! I don't play HS much anymore these days but the content is still gold, and these videos where you're branching out are a really good decision IMO! Keep it up buddy!
Ah I remember my first draft. I got rolled so bad. The thing that separates arena from tabletop is you can't have other players gather around, and try to assist you with the deck you made, at least not easily. I'd have the people I played against help me break a deck down after they beat me, and go through what's good, and what's bad. I recommend posting your list to moxfield, and getting advice from your viewers on what you did right, wrong, and what can be improved on as far as card choices, and how to play them.
Fun video! As an old school magic player, who never really got into hearthstone, I'm enjoying the content!
My friends discord stream their drafts with each other for the reasons you listed. More heads to help decision making.
hey, rarran. really love your videos. they always make me smile :) i especially love the "do you know hearthstone?" videos and the videos about players from other games rating hearthstone cards or you rating cards from other games. 2 wins is relly good for the first draft. ive been playing mtga (and paper magic) for quite a while now and sometimes still go 0-3 when unlucky in drafts.
This was great fun, and honestly you did really well to win some given it was matching you against proper opponents :D
First picked a common, this is going to be a fun time
Love it lol. Watching you learn is pretty funny xD - Keep the MTG content going!
Him not reading the cards is like teeth-pulling to me.
He keeps asking "What is that!?" or "What's happening!?" and I'm like, "Just read the F*cking cards, yo!!"
Quite good, I have to say! Considering expirience (and the lack of reading cards...), you did pretty damn well! Jolly good show!
Just so you know, the draft format you signed up for (kamigawa neon dynasties) is a pretty advanced one with a lot of intricate synergies. And I’d say you actually picked up on some of them fairly quickly.
One thing to keep in mind is that anything with an ability is instant speed (spell speed 2) and can be done as many times as you can pay the cost per turn, unless it says otherwise.
Also play your creatures after attacking unless you get some benefit from them being on board for that combat (like something with haste). Because having open mana and cards in hand makes your opponent have to think about whether or not you have any instants to play during combat.
Great video though and I’m looking forward to seeing more like it!
What a cool video. Would love to see more of this on the channel!
Dude. Bouncing beetle with ninjutsu is dope
I think in the coming months we’re in for a Red Deck Wins episode. No reading just plays!
I used to be a diehard HS arena player, but I ended up dropping the game after it became more about what you could discover over what you could draft. I switched over to Magic because skill was largely a card selection and deck optimization challenge, which I love. Magic drafting has a lot more moving parts, but it feels so much more rewarding once you get the hang of the mechanics and the sets. This set, Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty, has the wordiest and most complicated cards in a very long time. Seeing you enjoy this draft really makes me love what you do for the entire card game community. Keep it up Rarran, and if you decide to stick with magic, I’d suggest having someone else explain the ropes while you experience it. Makes it a lot less anxiety inducing
Is this pre nerf Jaina?
Well, Rarran doesn't read his cards, so we already know he'll make a perfect YGO player.
You honestly did incredibly with handling Ninjutsu and all the other concepts that Kamigawa Neon Dynasty has. Super fun watching you learn how to play!
Man seeing him pass on things like satoro for the beetle was hard to see, not that the beetle is expressly bad
I'm so proud you actually won a game!! I want more MTG videos!
Rarran please more magic content, you got me back into hearthstone but the magic content is gas.
I love how you correctly identified that cards that seem to grow big but nothing else are bad in your older mtg video, then went for the trashbot anyway.
As someone who's played Magic for a while and gotten pretty good at draft, I just wanted to say that your draft deck looked very good, especially considering you never drafted before. Love your content btw. Might I recommend trying constructed to get more of a sense of the cards and what they do? you can also look up some visual spoilers of the set if you want to know what all the cards in it are and what they do. Neon Dynasty is a tough one to navigate(its very complex), so congratulations on navigating the draft well.
I'm glad you gave it a shot, dude. One bit of advice - one is not zero. It's an old Magic saying relating to your life total. It basically means there are games you can win when you're on one life, and it's only the last life point that really matters in the end. So hang in there, fight to the last possible moment, and your win rate AND your confidence will soar. Good luck in future games!
A lot of this hurts so much
This would've been so fun to see as an uncut vod, but I'm sure this video will still be interesting and entertaining enough
This was so stressful yet entertaining to watch. I've never shouted at my phone before today.
Lol was lots of fun to watch you play your first draft! Just a teensy weensy little tip for next time… rarity (the color of the small symbol on the middle right of the card, consisting of in rarity black (common), silver (uncommon, rare (gold), and mythic (bronze). When you get the first pack the rarest cards are at the top (left to right). Just a heads up as the higher the rarity generally the stringer they are… at least when it comes to building the theme of your deck
Honestly you did great for a first draft. Four years ago I did five drafts before I won my first in person BO3 round. Last week I went undefeated for the first time. Magic takes time to learn, but its such a rewarding hobby. If you want to get better though, I would recommend playing in an in-person draft at your local game store. Magic Arena is fine, but it doesn't really capture what makes magic so fun, because it is missing the gathering part of the game.
I recently started playing magic after playing hearthstone for years, and I will say playing games through to the end allows you learn more. it's not always game over when you behind on cards, or creatures.
Also hearthstone is a very attack based game, while Magic is very defensive. Defenders have most of the control during combat
dude as others have said a collab with Day 9 would be absolutely incredible. He's a titan on youtube and a long time advocate for magic.
man im literally giggling in every close up. DONT YOU DARE GIVING UP MTG, this content is HILARIOUS
The first 5 minuttes of this video is how i felt when i came back to hearthstone 2 months ago after not playing since old Gods
Honestly incredibly relatable.
I've been playing kitchen table since dragons of tarkir, shifted to arena when the beta only had amonkhet?
My first draft was pure overwhelming stress. You capture the feeling very well
First pick beetle you know this is going to be a wild ride.
rarran card evaluation is actually very accurate for the most part
First off, BEETLE GAMING
You actually did well! Lots of paragraphs on this set’s cards, and you didn’t end up winning much. BUT you made a good deck, and picked up a lot of strats as you played! Fun to watch as a magic player who’s played some hearthstone
noone:
Rarran when beetle: POGG
This is so much fun to watch lmao. Also when you see removal in draft auto pick it haha.
Next step Rarran- a game of commander!
A lot of cards in magic have a lot of text because unlike a digital card game like hearthstone they have to tell you exactly, systematically, how to resolve an effect rather than just having the computer do it.
We will be watching your career with great interest!
Also, when you draft cards the good (rare) stuff is top left.
Ninjutsu, you can basically swap it for an attacking card for the Ninjutsu cost. So in essence, when you attack with your Beetle, you can Ninjutsu out that ninja and return the beetle to your hand, giving you an extra activation of its enter-the-battlefield trigger later.
More MTG content please Rarran! There's a lot of Hearthstone and MTG audience overlap and it's great to see a content creator covering both games
In Magic, the most important life point is your last*, so seeing you give up when you were higher than full health really hurt. There's always a chance to win until the final blow.
* Though, to be fair, there is more than one way to lose: life down to 0 or less, drawing a card when there's none left in your deck, having 10 poison counters, and a myriad of other alt-win/lose conditions printed on specific cards (my favourite being Door to Nothingness, which reads "WWUUBBRRGG, T, Sacrifice Door to Nothingness: Target player loses the game.").
Draft is my favorite format. I am excited!
That's so cool that you are trying to play other card games! It would be really cool if you also took a look at Gwent! Keep the content going!
Gwent
I must say jumping into a kamigawa draft is extremely bold. That set has given me more headaches in drafting than probably any other set in the last 3 years that I have played arena. TBH i wasnt even expecting a single win with the deck but well done. I hope you can do a fun collab video with Numot the nummy, LegenVd, deathsie, or nicolaibolas doing different quick drafts.
At 12:50 hold late game lands until after combat. It can bluff being a combat trick and force inefficient blocks by your opponent in fear of being blown up.
IT BEGINS
‘Trashbot’ should be Rarran’s MTG draft handle
You make any card game so stressful but entertaining at the same time I barely play hearthstone but play magic frequently and you still did better at drafting then I sometimes do 🤣 keep up any video of yours is instant click
Wow Neon Dynasty draft as a first timer? Respect. Cool as heck block though, they did a wild job all around with it.
you did wel, the only issue was NOT READING THE CARDS but really great for first time! just like hearthstone learning what cards can do is key
That was a looot of fun to watch!!
Yeah you did some miss plays and hadn't built a veeery good deck, but that's fine, my first draft were worst and when I played draft for the first time i was playing magic for like 2 years hahaha
Hope you keep the content coming, play some sealed if possible, its less stressful.
When he took the Oni Anvil I was like HE IS LEARNING!
I really enjoyed this video. I will say, I don't play Hearthstone, but I've played a lot of Magic and what I've learned is never concede. There's always a chance to turn a game around. It can be pretty crazy
Quick tip: if you right-click on cards in-game, it brings it up on the side and gives you time to read it. Helps with cards like Sagas that have complicated effects.
Hey Rarran,
I am a Magic player (since I can remember) and I really enjoying your videos only played Hearthstone briefly.
But hear me out, draft is the most skill intensive format and really not beginner friendly. I suggest trying to build a cheap or budget constructed (standard is cheaper) deck so you can get a feel what the game is first.
Take from someone that taught a lot of people how to play the game.
Good luck and keep up the good work.
Where would the fun be if he actually researched draft before hand?
this guy is really intellegent he knows his sh!t
he may not understand EVERYTHING about magic quite yet but hes definitely got far more than enough brains to be really good really quickly
Can't wait for your next draft lol
As someone that has played magic for a while seeing him concede so quick was painfull, a lot times a comeback is just a top deck away
THIS IS JUST GREAT
Pack 1 pick 2 Virus Beetle was crazy
Draft is an interesting format to get into, it’s very daunting and frustrating while you’re first trying it out, but once you get the hang of it, you’ll have fun. The quick draft is nice since you have unlimited time to read over the cards you choose, so take a moment and look over the cards and their abilities, Arena is very friendly in that aspect since they tell you the rules of all the abilities on the card. The same goes for spells in your hand, the game will explain all of its abilities if you right click(?) on it while you’re holding it.
My guy really passed over the mechtitan core 💀
The first few seconds watching, and I already feel so much me few months ago, trying draft for the first time
Rarran's the strongest lions on the Planeswalker...ah well the video was fantastic even if he didn't win
if you complete the white color challenge it will start giving you multicolor premades as well
Omg you should do a collab with Day9 he has a series where he plays mtg with celebrities who don’t play mtg. He’s by far the best for new players
Some of those ninjutsu misses were brutal, still pretty sweet to grab two wins off a draft when you have no experience with Magic at all.
I'd love to see you collaborating with Kibler :D
maybe try getting those free decks from color challenge to maybe see some constructed decks. might also be interesting to check them out
this is actually entertaining!
If you're looking for spicy draft collabs, I recommend Jim Davis, LSV ofc, and Reid Duke!
Those guys are literal legends and since you've talked to PVDDR multiple times I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult.
hey man I love the vidoes! Just want you to know that magic is an extremely rewarding game once you get more into it and please keep trying because it really is the deepest tcg. I would definitely recommend getting someone to come coach you on stream. It would be super good for your improvement and could also lead to some really funny moments.
Also; as far as some advice. I would definitely look out for any removal in draft, as it can be really helpful
Reading the card explains the card