Disagreement, defamation & drama: a week in a competitive Pokemon tournament
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Old man reminisces about his gang days. 2022 (colorized)
Smogon Drama: *Exists*
Blunder: "I'll take your whole stock"
The Agency truly provides the best
You CANNOT mention the cheating scandal and not do a video on it
Ikr??? I want to know now
yeah I need more about this lmao
@@erikcarp9359 Mazar had a bot that could join private games but not appear as a user so he was able to get a bunch of the other team’s teams and make cteams that literally had no way of losing. That SPL season has no official winner now since the Tigers won, and it also made showdown add the feature where you set it so that games get automatically privated (the bot would join in the time between the game started and that they would manually private it). This was also after he had already been banned for cheating and managed to convince tours staff that he was “reformed” LOL
Here's the link I got recommended it after I watched BKC video
th-cam.com/video/-RZxq7Vhth0/w-d-xo.html
there are some other videos on it that are pretty unbiased, and considering bkc's team was right i the brunt of this scandal i don't think it would be unbiased
The main thing I've learned from this video is that there are a lot of 3 letter fake acronym names in Smogon community, cbb tdk ctc pdc and bkc of course
You mean BKC isn’t a KFC rip-off that stands for Blaze Kicked Chicken?
@@johnjohnson1351 You say that as if that name WOULDN'T work for a place that specializes in spicy chicken.
abr lmao
CTC stands for "Cook The Counter"
@@sephikong8323 its clutch then choke
Quick explanation on the doduo sack being terrible.
Quick Attack + bird spam means that you can deal with both abra and foongus because Abra doesn’t have a sash and bird spam could at least do good damage (if not kill) to foongus. Gastly could be sacked and you’d still be able to win from that position (or drop scarf foo, as foongus walls that).
Watched 1 minute and can already tell this video belongs in a museum
Evil BKC be like:
"Man I hate drama, I wish wed all get along..."
Evil BKC: I think scald is very healthy for the meta and shouldn't be banned
That first game in the background was really hype lol
That high jump kick miss tho
Aww yeah it was, the ending :(
I swear, I could listen to you talk about Pokemon tournament history all day. The amount of both classic and deep lore you have about this community is just amazing. Please continue sharing more of these spicy stories!
love being able to just Feel the writer's mind in these videos; hearing shit like "oft maligned" and analysis of slang makes my art student brain happy
I've been playing Showdown random for the first time ever, over the last two days...and it's the most frustrating game I've played in years. No wonder people who are good enough to enter tournaments get so heated
There is a Big difference between random battels and smogon tiers.
@@mangosteak Sure there is, but all of the underlying battle mechanics and sense are present in ranbats and its a surprisingly competitive format
Really ?
The meta I plaed the most is gen3 randombattles and I like the dynamic of it a lot.
I find it hard and a bit tedious to build and balance a team so I played mostly 1v1 and Randombattles.
But its ok to differ
despite getting into comp Pokemon in 2011, I never paid attention to the smogon hardcore competitive community. it seems like a whole other world, it's wild.
only bkc can make showdown drama sound shakespearean, love the content man
Please more drama/history of cheating scandal videos! I have followed many smogon tournaments over the past 10 years, all at surface level (i never as much as made a post on the forums)
Listening to these stories from the perspective of a legend in the community such as yourself is something I never thought would happen, and truly hope to hear/see more of it!
some amazing BKC quotes in this already-amazing video, highlights include "all we wanted to do is set up Stealth Rock"
Can you do a video on the cheating scandal?
youtube search mazar, there are a few videos on the scandal
th-cam.com/video/JMqS_xiGp04/w-d-xo.html
Smogon was always quite scuffed honestly. This tournament was crazy, but also the community around Smogon was always kinda strange, with CTC and his hype squad in the early ORAS scene. Definitely not ethical, but always fun to see nonsense. :)
Dont slander the goat it was no hype squad
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@@kit2877 irony is always en epic sight
@@soundaholixx 😂😂 agency
Wait, ctc was an actual player? I always thought he was a goofy guy that joins in on pokeaim vids lol
Seeing grown men riot against each other over a fictional pocket monsters event is both funny and sad.
CTC the goat with over 15 strikes for being a man
This makes me draw a lot of comparison from competitive Pokémon to WWE Pro Wrestling, which I didn’t think I would be doing today.
First time ever sticking through an entire video of yours, very entertaining
OHH THIS VID GOING IN THE CLASSICS LIST
who would've thought that there's so much lore to Pokemon showdown
love this style of video. as someone who only ever uses smogon to keep track of wcop/spl/stour and watch from the sidelines it's neat to get a closer look at what it was actually like at the time. would love to see these types of video be a recurring thing, maybe looking at mazar or the whole style ost fiasco
21:15 - funfact about gen 7 doubles ou:
swagger, mega gengar and jirachi were all banned from the format.
zapdos got deemed bad by today's standards.
and swagger is still banned in gen 8, but it would be completly useless if unbanned due to the lack of abusers in the format since crit me not sweepers are now the exploitable thing in doubles team building....
time flies doesnt it?
Please do more tournament drama/lore videos. You make them sound so interesting
I LOVE IT WHEN A COMMUNITY STARTS FALLING APART OVER SIMPLE MATTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know this video is a couple months old but I really enjoy this video, it's history in the game that would be likely lost otherwise please make more videos like this.
BKC covering tournament drama isn't something I knew I needed so bad until you dropped this banger.
This has been my favorite video of yours so far. Love the drama
Always fun to see content from the Smogon Ghosting League
Would love to hear about the tigers cheating scandle
Long story short - Player for the Tigers used a bot to get full information on opponents teams and sets, then used it to help himself/teammates perfectly counter team said opp.
youtube search mazar, you'll get a few results
th-cam.com/video/JMqS_xiGp04/w-d-xo.html
Lavos meltdown next??
😢😓
Nice video. It’s nice to hear about the players and get some insight into the community before I got into it.
Kevin you’re a legend
BKC what is your favorite movie of 2022 so far
any answer besides EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE is objectively wrong
@@BKCplaysPokemon bkc is everything everywhere all at once
@@BKCplaysPokemon i actually cried to that movie
@@BKCplaysPokemon now THATS a great answer
Why are there moving pictures on this podcast?
18:51 I was playing showdown while this was playing in the background, and I felt guilty abt Obama crit tbolting meanwhile I’m using Urshifu Rapid strike spamming surging strikes and simply clicking a move for a crit.
This video has the same energy of "And I took that personally" from The Last Dance
finally a bkc drama video lol
Well I am not familiar at all with SPL history, but now I think it'd be incredibly hype if the raiders vs scooters rematch does finally happen many years down the line.
Everything I hear about SPL VIII makes it sound more like reality TV.
Video starts at 1:07:23
Bkc got pretty bored and wanted to dig up some spicy beef. Very appreciated.
why can BKC come up with these bangers
Epic discord moment
this is making me want to come back to smogon 😂
Can’t believe I just heard the L is Halved enunciated like that 38:44
maybe you can do a video on the mazar ubers cheating scandal too? (and maybe whitequeen next)
Funnily enough - The Mazar scandal is the one he mentioned in this vid. Tho a full vid on it would be cool
there are a few vids on the scandal already
What exactly happened in this big cheating scandal?
there are a few videos on this, idt those are very biased so you can look at those
@@tecul1 if you these them link em.
th-cam.com/video/-RZxq7Vhth0/w-d-xo.html
just look up mazar haha
A player used a computer programm to collect all of his opponents testing matches as replays and the used that data to create perfect counter teams.
He also used that bot to help out his teammates by using it on their opponents and then suggesting sets to them.
In the end he got caught cause he bragged about it.
Yooo BKC random question, you got a Letterboxd? Lmao
letterboxd.com/autumn_leaves/
@@BKCplaysPokemon my g 🤝
This sounds like an absolute disaster. Jesus.
What abt a vid on the whole bloo scandal back in the day that was crazy watching live
I think he’s already made a video on that
@@erikcarp9359 link?
@@user-iy6ko1bz4y
No idea, but I’ve heard the story from bkc
This was a treat to listen to.
Where I can find the old SPL's and for certain generations like a gen 4 ou Spl?
www.smogon.com/forums/forums/smogon-premier-league.130/
Wish he didn’t skip RBY
I could listen to your videos forever istg
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD TOTEM.
Is the DPP ubers invitational still happening?
The "jerk" nature of Smogon extended way back to when I first stumbled upon the site in the Gen 4 era pre-Garchomp ban.
To this day I still maintain a dislike for the site as a sort of outsider who was looking in.
Baby Keeps Crying is incredibly based
i hate drama
Plz upload more of this
Does someone have the Gen 5 Slowking Team? 🙂
Smogon lore
you always make comments like "omg im so old now" and yet today I learned we're the same age
in terms of being around the pokemon scene, I'm a dinosaur
Do you have a great speaking voice and good content! That being said I think you may want to drink a little more water especially before recording. You do a lot of tongue ticks which normally happens when people’s mouths are dry. Keep up the good work though!
How the fuck do you cheat on pokemon showdown
Your using the same team
by never missing stone edge
@@gligurr hitting focus blast more than twice in a game 😩
th-cam.com/video/-RZxq7Vhth0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/JMqS_xiGp04/w-d-xo.html
Wait I don't get it. Didn't raiders win against scooters? The players on the right won mostly right?
Does anyone listen to this and immediately think of the TFT scene?
Kevlin
I am so lost, can someone pls explain what happened??
You gotta talk about the Mazar shit. Like another dude said, you can't mention it and not cover it
FACTS re GOT. All my friends thought s7 was sick and it pissed me off. Horrible season just as bad as 8.
This shit reminds me exactly why I stopped participating in the forums.
this jerk stuff seems pretty interesting. I had never really payed attention to the smogon forums so I don't really know how all all these top players are/were like. My best window into this world though was through watching idm/heatah fajita crew, whom I've watched pretty consistently since 2015, and was especially into them from 2016-2018, and am assuming were a part of this "jerk". I think that among the "general smogon/showdown playerbase" they really helped popularize certain terms like "heat" and "choked on dicks." Wonder if these kinds of terms coined by the heatah crew or were they actually already popular among "the jerk" and the heatah crew just spread it to a more casual audience. Or maybe I'm just completely wrong and the heatah crew wasn't that tied to the jerk.
I've also recently watched a heatah vid from around 2016 and noticed just how much more toxic everyone was, especially in the chat. Wonder if it was the heatah crew who really helped up the shit talking within the general tournament community, or if it was the general tournament community who influenced the heatah crew to be that toxic. I remember blunder making a video talking about toxicity on smogon and how someone told him that he was responsible for how toxic the playerbase, even on the ladder was. I didn't really believe it at the time but looking back at those vids, I definitely see how they might've influenced things. It was definitely quite the spectacle seeing how much shit they sometimes talked to their opponents and to each other, and how a lot of spectators would come to also talk shit in the chat, but that probably wasn't great for the community. Guess I'm just curious about the relationship between the heatah crew, the jerk, and toxicity on smogon/showdown as a whole
somehow just learned that you were actually also an active member of idm wtf that's crazy, yet another smogon youtuber from idm. Would love to hear about any stories you have from being a part of that, or even the jerk in general
What blunder video was talking about the toxicity? That seems interesting
@@forwhatreasonwasthisadded ima be honest chief, I forgot. I think it was like over 2 years ago, it was a discussion video probably about the state of smogon or something. Tried looking for it with no luck, might've been one of the vids blunder privated
average 1v1 series
PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT CHEATING SCANDALS
Kino
I disagree with defamation and drama
53:18 LMFAO
CBB>
Elitism at its finest!
please do more ladder
video on the cheating in the coming days?
th-cam.com/video/JMqS_xiGp04/w-d-xo.html
The feminization and expansion of Smogon is so much better for the site culture. Men who are overly intense about their hobby and foster cultures of bullying should not be allowed to run any kind of scene
da hell
I wouldn’t call it Feminization, its more like maturation. The scene has grown more mature overtime, not “less manly”. Being a diaper baby about competitive hobbies really shouldn’t be a dude thing to begin with, it’s just a dumb thing.
Dibs lol
Also good video topic
Yeah Mega Gengar got banned eventually
keen
Mazar Goat
Drama explanation starts at 9:01
please script your videos man this is hard to listen to cuz you keep pausing and stuttering
ok leave then