Mercedes GLC vs Audi Q5 SUV comparison REVIEW

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  • This is our in-depth comparison review of the Mercedes GLC AMG Line vs Audi Q5 S Line. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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    00:00 Mercedes GLC AMG Line vs Audi Q5 S Line
    01:04 Design, wheels and rear
    02:43 Interior GLC doors and seats
    04:25 Interior Q5 doors and seats
    05:27 Cockpit Audi Q5
    07:42 Cockpit Mercedes GLC
    09:58 Rear seats GLC
    10:43 Rear seats Q5
    11:14 Trunk / boot comparison
    12:15 Engines and technology
    12:41 Driving Mercedes GLC
    15:04 Driving Audi Q5
    19:48 Which SUV to buy?
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  • @autogefuehl
    @autogefuehl  ปีที่แล้ว +4

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    00:00 Mercedes GLC AMG Line vs Audi Q5 S Line
    01:04 Design, wheels and rear
    02:43 Interior GLC doors and seats
    04:25 Interior Q5 doors and seats
    05:27 Cockpit Audi Q5
    07:42 Cockpit Mercedes GLC
    09:58 Rear seats GLC
    10:43 Rear seats Q5
    11:14 Trunk / boot comparison
    12:15 Engines and technology
    12:41 Driving Mercedes GLC
    15:04 Driving Audi Q5
    19:48 Which SUV to buy?
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    • @redachafeh9481
      @redachafeh9481 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which one would you prefer with 3 Kids in rear Seat. I should install at least 2 kinder seat and one normal.
      Thanks for the great video

  • @genzigzag
    @genzigzag ปีที่แล้ว +65

    The Mercedes interior looks like a Russian mob disco and the Audi's interior looks like a gentleman's club.😂

    • @joejarvis2497
      @joejarvis2497 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But I like Russian mob disco. 😕

    • @pacmanc8103
      @pacmanc8103 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Audi looks like a Volkswagen to me. No distinction and the technology is old. The Benz is a nice, modern vehicle of a different level.

    • @Driver_88
      @Driver_88 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      For the Merc more like a neon brothel :)

    • @Enko063
      @Enko063 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@pacmanc8103 This Q5 has introduced since 2016 and steel looks better than Mercedes.

    • @pacmanc8103
      @pacmanc8103 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Enko063 Depends on what you like. If you are a fan of 1990s style seats, a cheapo stand-up navigation system (reminds me of the ones on Corolla), and flimsy dashboard pieces, the you’ll be happy with a Q5. I prefer to spend my money on something of better quality and modern technology - crazy, huh?

  • @mikeses4392
    @mikeses4392 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very nice review!

  • @reabetswethipe2190
    @reabetswethipe2190 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Look at how gorgeous the GLC is🔥

    • @predatorishi
      @predatorishi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Plastic

  • @csanvi
    @csanvi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The Q5 still carries the industrial approach, I would say. To me interiors are not a deal breaker, and the touch AC controls are a strict NO. So, I would pick the Q5.

  • @md8744
    @md8744 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love this review

  • @mikeyg751
    @mikeyg751 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Recently it was time for me to upgrade cars. I looked at X5, Q5, GLC, and GLB.
    Surprisingly I ended up getting the Mercedes GLB. I LOVE their new interiors. I wanted the updated GLC, but they hadn’t entered production yet. ☹️ Next time. 🤣
    I used to be a huge VWAG fan, but the last Audi I had was 🗑️ and hopefully avoiding some issues going with the Mercedes. 🤞🏻 Time will tell.
    The Q5 is long overdue for a refresh and I don’t find this comparison fair since the GLC was literally just refreshed.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the feedback!

  • @redachafeh9481
    @redachafeh9481 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a question please, which one of those would prefer for three kids (rear seats), i should install 3 child seat, or at least 2 and the third kid will have just a normal seat

  • @elvirsarajlic1717
    @elvirsarajlic1717 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had a q5, 40 tdi, 2022 - the car (brand new) was making a whistling sound when accelerating, so at around 2000rpms. It sounded as if someone was blowing air through a straw. Interestingly, the noise was more pronounced in the warmer weather and when the engine was warmed up. In Audi while acknowledging the unusual noise (it took a while), they could not find the reason why it was happening, as everything “seemed fine”. The same happened in a replacement car. I ended up selling it and going for another brand having driven Audi for the past 20 years 😢

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant video.

  • @jackryder6732
    @jackryder6732 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    GLC wins, in my opinion. Great review
    I never buy new. So bargain for cheaper used.
    What about reliability.

  • @_b_k
    @_b_k ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good review, thanks!
    driving a MB now I don't miss the Audi I had a few models before...hmmm🤔

  • @TheSexy1049
    @TheSexy1049 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for sharing 🙏

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍👍

  • @MitsuFQ400
    @MitsuFQ400 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rented a2019 GLC300 w/AMg line package that was fun. But I bought a 2023 Q5 45 S Line The ride is so mich better and smoother. I think its because of multi link Front suspension . Rented a newer GLC again and yup cant compare the ride quality to Audi.

  • @Archive06000
    @Archive06000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a Mercedes and Audi lover I'll take the Q5! But I still love the GLC

  • @eal_ppl
    @eal_ppl ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice video.

  • @joejarvis2497
    @joejarvis2497 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well the Q5 has a redesign coming soon so it's like comparing apples and oranges right now. I had a Q5e PHEV last year and now have a Etron (soon to be Q8 Etron) now and love it just as much as my Q5e.

  • @dedan2
    @dedan2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both are nice, but I would choose the BMW X3 30i

  • @davidperry3531
    @davidperry3531 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I like AJ’s reviews with a natural, straightforward approach but in this case I would take the Audi. The Mercedes is too flashy for me.

  • @Wulf44445
    @Wulf44445 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I just love the Q5 overall. The functional interior. Suttle exterior, the best engine and nice power on the upgraded electric motor. GLC too flashy for me

  • @michaelhoffmann510
    @michaelhoffmann510 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thing is, at maxed-out configurations, both arrive at 95 - 100 k-ish EUROs right now, so... Maybe better wait for the new Q5 that's right around the corner?

  • @Stragoh
    @Stragoh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As much as i like AJ`s review`s, i do think Thomas should do one of these aswell, as he is the same height as me :P

  • @terokaakinen7061
    @terokaakinen7061 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mercs interior screens looks really retrofitted...😅 Hopefully Audi also ditches that tablet-looking center screen in future models...

  • @zlatkowebmail
    @zlatkowebmail ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great comparaison, but please guy invest in a better camera. The last videos are so dark!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Our camera is good, maybe you perceive some shots as dark because there was hard sunlight which requires aperture close of the camera

  • @md8744
    @md8744 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only you open eyes on the view of driver space and glc though, yes audi q5 is larger area driver than glc absolutely Sir. You are number one.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks 🙏

  • @michaelstaunton1632
    @michaelstaunton1632 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Audi Q5 👌👌👌

  • @venkatavajrala8418
    @venkatavajrala8418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please review fisker ocean

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  • @mbojilov1
    @mbojilov1 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Considering how old of a design and model the Q5 is, I would have expected a notable advantage for the GLC. Instead you are getting a minimal superiority, if any. For sure a moral victory for the Q5.

    • @sfsdeniso5941
      @sfsdeniso5941 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      audi interior is 10 y old and you see it immediately

    • @mbojilov1
      @mbojilov1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Maybe but at least the Audi is not using a bolted-on iPad as its speedometer.

  • @arda_
    @arda_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have been searching for a car in this segment for a while now, so let me chime in a little.
    Mercedes GLC, especially in hybrid form, is simply the best in this segment. Not that it is higher quality than its rivals (it isn’t) it is the only one with latest tech and only one that can deliver cars with latest tech without chip problems.
    BUT the GLC prices dealers quote me are the same as BMW X5 hybrid prices. The X5 is unquestionably the better car. So the only remaining quality to the GLC is that it is smaller, which is a positive thing for some people.
    Went with an XC60 instead. Costed 15+k less than the GLC :)

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks for the feedback !

    • @brianhansen2202
      @brianhansen2202 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s easy to save when you buy chineese 😂

  • @369como
    @369como ปีที่แล้ว +1

    19 rim verse 21 rim on air suspension is a big handling difference.

  • @Mu7u298
    @Mu7u298 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would go for AUDI Q5 all the way , the Mercedes interior its overwhelming . Audi Q5 is more classy and user friendly . plus using a tablet as a spedometer is ugly . the only thing I don't like about the Audi Q5 infotainment system . plus the Audi comes with ambient lightning which he didn't mention + wireless charging. The only thing that Mercedes kicked as the Audi is exterior which is a deal breaker of course

  • @jackshu9984
    @jackshu9984 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Q5 will have a new design around March of 2024, it will be fair to compare by then

  • @semattarek9084
    @semattarek9084 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So nice GLC

  • @cameronthorby5799
    @cameronthorby5799 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the things I like least about Mercedes is all the "drooping" body lines, think the GLC is one of their better looking designs.

  • @tonybalmeo3434
    @tonybalmeo3434 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'll go with the GLC

  • @marantamil459
    @marantamil459 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should have used the Lexus NX as Audi and BMW are getting new models in 2 or 3 years.

  • @franciscoazevedo1346
    @franciscoazevedo1346 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I drove several new mercedes and I just cant enjoy the infotainment system that they use.. It is so cumbersome that just connecting my phone by bluetooth was difficult, it just isnt intuitive, and the audi system is just straight to the point and easy to use. Besides that I dont like the screens just floating in the interior of the Mercedes

  • @rytiskurcinskas7179
    @rytiskurcinskas7179 ปีที่แล้ว

    glc in ireland now stats at 82k euro, so its definatly a no no in terms of price

  • @bassemkhozam
    @bassemkhozam ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Both are nice, but I will choose Audi over Mercedes

    • @djdoomy
      @djdoomy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the mercedes interior looks more like an office than car interior; even the cockpit is a plain rectangular screen, then on the console another rectangular screen. there
      s no feeling you're in a car.

    • @mart_en
      @mart_en ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The Audi is a 15 year old design and technology though

    • @djdoomy
      @djdoomy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @An.N. even if that was true, it would still make you feel at the wheel of a car. Everybody's praising the Mercedes interior design, but really, it's not that hard to stick 2 rectangular tablets in a car and call it a day. Where's the designing ingenuity in that? For me, as a customer, it would be more like an insult. They're asking 90k on a car, and when I get into it, I'm looking at an office with 2 screens, basically. I agree the rest looks nice, but the 2 screens are ruining everything for me.

    • @mart_en
      @mart_en ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@djdoomy I know what you mean and kind of agree.
      But in 3-5 years every car will have those screens inside.

    • @ItsTheSidJ
      @ItsTheSidJ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mart_enStill easier to use 🤷‍♂️

  • @kingfisher111
    @kingfisher111 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know Mercedes is more luxurious but there's something abt the Audis that attract me more towards them. Their Quattro system is more successful over Merc's 4matic.

  • @petewick8627
    @petewick8627 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Mercedes should be better considering it’s a brand new model and the Audi is at the end of its life cycle

    • @abayamangali
      @abayamangali ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah Audi is preparing a new Q5. Due to come out soon.

    • @christianvik3400
      @christianvik3400 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mercedes Benz' "leather" usually is just plastic, probably on this car too..

  • @Jimsxn
    @Jimsxn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GLC for looks Q5 for driving exp

  • @luisartglv7173
    @luisartglv7173 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard plastics on lower part of doors are unacceptable, seems like every new generation is looking to be more cost efficent by removing higher quality materials here and there

  • @TinoushGTR
    @TinoushGTR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Definitely Mercedes interieur. In Audi it is like they forgot about the middle display and placed an ipad on a car kit in the end. Mercedes for me.

  • @olaalhammami4808
    @olaalhammami4808 ปีที่แล้ว

    What GLC is this?! And what year?!

  • @noonehere1793
    @noonehere1793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the Q5 still made in Mexico for the American market?

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For world

    • @bellabella9346
      @bellabella9346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just buy the q5 made in Mexico but I’m not really happy 😢

  • @kapikoyli
    @kapikoyli ปีที่แล้ว +2

  • @shaheenms5790
    @shaheenms5790 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always Audi

  • @abhishekprasad5359
    @abhishekprasad5359 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mercedes GLC all the way. Spoil you with the futuristic interior design and technology

  • @gregp.7148
    @gregp.7148 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This comparison needs to include the BMW X3 and Volvo XC60.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  ปีที่แล้ว

      We have a GLC vs X3 episode here: th-cam.com/video/0xkb5hb9DqQ/w-d-xo.html

    • @pacmanc8103
      @pacmanc8103 ปีที่แล้ว

      Volvo?😂

  • @paulo7200
    @paulo7200 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hopefully the Ipad-glued-to-the-dash thing goes away soon!

  • @Kostyamba1944
    @Kostyamba1944 ปีที่แล้ว

    Und wo ist Tomas?..

  • @balegdeh.
    @balegdeh. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    someone PLEASE ban touch controls for AC being the ONLY OPTION in a LUXURY CAR😭

  • @auchen888dolly8
    @auchen888dolly8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Massage seats in Audi Mercedes is so cheap not doing massage seats makes a real difference if you drive long ways .. stalk shift is terrible

    • @auchen888dolly8
      @auchen888dolly8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Audi better therefore ❤

    • @pacmanc8103
      @pacmanc8103 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those Audi seats will begin splitting in 4-5 years. The interior looks like it was made at the same factory as a Volkswagen Golf. Functional, but very out-dated and some of the pieces are very flimsy. No thanks.

  • @keska01
    @keska01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoy paying for Service B, C, D, etc. for the GLC :D

    • @pacmanc8103
      @pacmanc8103 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As far as I know, there are only A service and B service. The A service is around $280, I think, and the B service is around $700. Not that bad.

  • @sirgizmo440
    @sirgizmo440 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Audi all the way

  • @s1quattro840
    @s1quattro840 ปีที่แล้ว

    Audi😍🚀

  • @sanchaynarain3532
    @sanchaynarain3532 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would take the X3…

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  ปีที่แล้ว

      GLC vs X3: th-cam.com/video/0xkb5hb9DqQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @wonna9515
    @wonna9515 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lol very one sided review😂😂 I can tell you love new GLC

  • @user-dy5po2wm2c
    @user-dy5po2wm2c 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I choose Audi

  • @venkatsamba8677
    @venkatsamba8677 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t like too much touch screen options that can easily distract driving …slowly we are losing purpose of car

  • @pizzapiglet
    @pizzapiglet 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GLC interior looks great and it drives well but did they forget drivers have legs...literally nowhere for your right need with that unnecessarily large consol intrusion.

  • @InfoHubZA
    @InfoHubZA ปีที่แล้ว

    X3 anyday

  • @6ixtynine
    @6ixtynine ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My money would be on the GLC, more advanced. Audi outdated still the same might as well buy a 10 year old Q5 not much difference. That iPad sticking up on top is shocking.

  • @jikim661
    @jikim661 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate still hate fake exhaust lol

  • @pixeldoc7119
    @pixeldoc7119 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I prefer the fake exhaust tips; they only get corroded with exhaust soot and mean extra work in clean-ups.

    • @pacmanc8103
      @pacmanc8103 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not if you clean your vehicle every week. But they have to be cleaned by hand - like the whole vehicle actually, including inside the doors.

  • @mart_en
    @mart_en ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The legroom is actually better in the Mercedes.
    In fact even the Q3 has more room for the knees than a Q5 ...

    • @j800q
      @j800q 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats just false, the Q3 was hella cramped while the Q5 gave me plenty of space

    • @mart_en
      @mart_en 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@j800q Than your perception was wrong. The Q3 has 1,8 cm more legroom in the rear.

    • @j800q
      @j800q 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mart_en aah the rear you meant, i sat in the passenger seat. That one was very cramped. And legroom in Q5 is not small, its judt that the Q3 has good rear legroom. Q5 for example has better legroom than the bmw x3

  • @lukemanon9838
    @lukemanon9838 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The Mercedes will still be going strong long after the Audi has fizzled out .

    • @gullible119
      @gullible119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What sort of analogy is this?

    • @pacmanc8103
      @pacmanc8103 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gullible119 He’s just stating facts.

    • @Wulf44445
      @Wulf44445 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pacmanc8103 No he isn't lol. Has nothing to back it up. Just a pointless assumption.

    • @Kelle128
      @Kelle128 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Biased comment.

  • @TheJoStephan
    @TheJoStephan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh yes, the fake exhaust tips. Why?? Why keep doing something that all of us hate so much. Crisis.

  • @futmut1000
    @futmut1000 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Mercedes wins hands down, its newer and looks much better on the inside, Audi really left the Q5 aging badly, such a shame

  • @JawadJawad-xi3hy
    @JawadJawad-xi3hy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Q5 sline

  • @chadflpo635
    @chadflpo635 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is the other guy 😭

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      here: th-cam.com/video/UxgKy1Q4J_0/w-d-xo.html

  • @edwardgrey5794
    @edwardgrey5794 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nowadays, so cheap to get big screens😂

  • @notavailable1088
    @notavailable1088 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why pajeet?

  • @TheJoStephan
    @TheJoStephan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mercedes quality is down the drain again. Even worse, Merc is no longer good value for money. Very sad.

  • @eal_ppl
    @eal_ppl ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Audi interior is way outdated for 2023. It's good, but outdated.

    • @pacmanc8103
      @pacmanc8103 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is good like a Volkswagen is good - aren’t they the same company? Mercedes is different.

    • @eal_ppl
      @eal_ppl ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pacmanc8103 I like VW interior, especially from past generation, when there were more physical button. But Audi positionuingmore premium and not every current their model feels that way. Some of their cars have nice fresh interior, but this Q5, A4 2023 have a really outdated interior, design and fuctionally wise. It could be fare for this models, cuz they are not at the top premium segment. But competitors in their price with similar price has already updated their cockpit.

    • @sillimilli3802
      @sillimilli3802 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@pacmanc8103so you will comment everywhere about audi being Volkswagen 😂😂

    • @pacmanc8103
      @pacmanc8103 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sillimilli3802 It is the same vehicle pretty much.

    • @Enko063
      @Enko063 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This Q5 has been presented in 2016 and steel better than Merc.

  • @reddevilunited77
    @reddevilunited77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fake exhausts have to go!

  • @osman_zengin
    @osman_zengin หลายเดือนก่อน

    Q5 is "Made in Mexico"

  • @Hercegovac.1
    @Hercegovac.1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Audi looks old.
    Mercedes looks fresh 👍

  • @predatorishi
    @predatorishi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Horrible plastic cars, no thanks.. happy with ES350

  • @hardyk2010
    @hardyk2010 ปีที่แล้ว

    You got an Indian guy for presenter?

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      AJ has been with us for years!

    • @pacmanc8103
      @pacmanc8103 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He sounds like an American to me.

    • @uzisol
      @uzisol 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      WTF wrong having indian guy for presenter. AJ rocks solid

  • @Road-wx9ok
    @Road-wx9ok ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Mercedes looks great inside and out, but I would go for the Audi Q5. I like the more simple interior design with physical climate control buttons.
    The Mercedes is just too pretentious looking on the inside.

  • @miloman1995s
    @miloman1995s 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Q5 best

  • @ilyariga
    @ilyariga ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thomas... 😢

  • @Kostyamba1944
    @Kostyamba1944 ปีที่แล้ว

    Und wo ist Tomas?..

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hier: BMW 7 Series vs Mercedes S-Class comparison REVIEW
      th-cam.com/video/UxgKy1Q4J_0/w-d-xo.html

    • @Kostyamba1944
      @Kostyamba1944 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@autogefuehl, und Heute?