I once stalled on the same hill probably 10 times. There was a traffic light. I kissed go twice. People got pissed. My boyfriend was in his car behind me so he put his hazard lights on so cars knew something was up. Got it eventually. God. First hill I'd ever stopped at. Hardly ever stall on it now. Be confident!!
***** haha yeah, it was my first time riding by myself (without another rider) on my new bike. The biting point was quite small. I stalled it a lot when I first got it but now I hardly ever stall. Confidence is definatly key. You cant expect yourself to be amazing first time. And np :)
xsassyxbluex hi, I know this is late haha but how long did it take for you to ride out on the roads comfortably and also taking off from uphill I’m a learner amd I stalled so many times on this one hill, it was embarrassing
I just started riding (400 Miles so far). This advice plays in my head each time I'm stuck on a hill and it's priceless. I took MSF and they don't really cover this specifically. We've got real steep grades around here and it's second nature now. Thank you and yes I'm looking sexy while doing it every time now.
Doing hill starts really worried me. I worked out the sequence by sitting on a kitchen chair at home and then practising it at an empty car park with a suitable incline. Practising late at night when there are few cars also helped me. Riding at dawn on a Sunday is also good as most people are sleeping in and the road is quiet for you to practice and build confidence.
Makes me so happy that you guys drive on the same side of the road as us here in the UK. It helps to not confuse me 😂 Thank you for making this video, I've had some recent bad experiences with hill starts on my bike and seeing as I have to do one nearly immediately after I leave my garage I definitely need to nail it! 🙏
Thanks for your kind comment. Yeah, it certainly helps when everything lines up and it’s not reversed, hahaha. Like anything, it’s just practice, but also, confidence! KNOW that you can do it, and you’ll believe in your abilities, and practicing will allow you to nail it time and time again. You got it!! We all start somewhere. Everyone learns. Even Valentino Rossi had to learn one day. I appreciate you watching my old video, glad it still helps this many years later.
Blinkycab, just wanted to say thanks for the vids. As a new rider it's good to see someone offering encouragement to people new to bikes. If you're not already an instructor then there's definitely a possible career there (much friendlier than the grumpy old guy who taught me!) Keep 'em coming!
this might be 11 years old, but still very helpful, bought a bike recently and have been practicing, i gotta start using the rear brake more instead of always relying on the front to stop, Thanks for the video 👍
A massive thank you from me for this vid as it helped me pass my test this week. Was struggling with the incline start, but your enthusiasm and technique saved the day! Blessings, mate!
Small grade hills like this weren't a problem for me on my first day of riding my Ninja 250 on the road yesterday, but steep hills with stop signs at the top really sketch me out, both for stopping smoothly and softly and for starting off again.
Thanks so much for this video man. I just recently purchased my first ever bike, a Honda grom 2019, and I stalled on a big hill with two cars behind me. Thankfully they were paying attention and passed me, but I was so scared! I’m going to go on a ride later tonight and try to go up that hill again because you gave me motivation. :)
i got ybr 125cc june started gettin confidence then came off in rain took confidence away hav not been able to get to grips with hill starts and your vid has really helped me along with most of your vids thanks
I just bought a bike today and I was struggling with holding the front brake and throttle at the same time. Thank you so much for the help, and the way you say it is so helpful. Thanks. Triumph Bonneville T120.
blinkycab so you don't ever put it in neutral because then you have to lift both feet of ground right lol. So approach stop on a hill in first hold the clutch in and then back brake? The. Let go of brake and go
Thank you so much!! there is a small hill after i get out of my neighbor hood at a red light. i stalled my ninja 250r like 3 times on that hill because i was afraid and i couldn't get it right. this video helped. now i know what to do and i'm gonna practice it on my driveway (my drive way is pretty steep too). i just got my 2009 red ninja 250r last week and have about 50 miles on it now :)
40 Year old picked up my brand new bike today and while still on L's went for a ride with a mate. Stressful Terrifying Hilarious Fun really enjoyed it hadn't ridden for 20 years. Last corner before my house is a death hill with stop sign. Behind me was a bus during peak hour. Stall probably 10 times felt like a scrub but eventually intuited the rear break slip clutch. I just need more practice. Really loving the bike cannot wait to ride more just terrifying and I need to breath and relax! Thanks for the tips!
THIS IS HOW I DO ALL MY TAKE OFFS, HELPS GET ME MOVING QUICKER. Also people remember to give it a rev when you downshift, its good for the bike, and you wont jerk.
thanks for doing this blinky, not sure how many people had ask you to do a video on taking of on a hill but i was one of them. very much appreciated. thank you!
Watching some of your videos and M13's videos is what got me into riding 8 years ago. An old comment from another acct is somewhere below. I sort of remember how it happened. I was watching videos and realised hey, I'm of age to get a licence why not get a bike and have that freedom (I wasn't old enough to get my P's for a car) and within a week or 2 I got my licence done and bought a bike
I remember when I was first learning how to drive a manual car and everybody made a big deal about the hills so I was kind of worried. They would tell me all these weird techniques with the handbrake and such. But it's really no big deal at all. You just have to give it a little more gas and slip the clutch a bit more. But I guess some people tend to panic if they feel their car or bike roll back.
Thanks for the vid & you're right it's practice !!. where i live and often ride on the moors of yorkshire there's some junctions in towns around the howarth/keighley area that are much steeper than where you showed us, and the fact that it's so easy to stall my 125 honda looking for the biting point while holding it with the brake, means it can take me a few goes to get it right, but i think i'm improving, and have to say that i've found most motorists behind me have shown patience when i dont always get it right, which is great to see. next time i go up a steep and quiet lane i think i will spend 15 mins practicing a bit more. cheers
I didn't know Sydney is so hilly everywhere until I started to ride a bike! Lucky lots of hills where I live so I've been pracitsing hard on the backstreets before I hit the traffic! Thanks for the videolots of hillslots of hills
Now I'm currently in driving school, and have had 2 sessions. Just today I started on steep inclines, and how to start. Before this I used to drive a manual car, however switched to automatic. bla bla, the thing is if you're like me, you don't exactly have your senses super fine tuned so you cannot feel that the bike is hitting the gear engagement. Just keep your foot on the rear brake don't give gas, now find the clutch point, you will hear the engine rpm slow down, and you might feel the bike jolt a tiny teensy bit, now you can apply a little throttle, and you can release the brake, and just keep your current clutch point. Coz you can basically just stand there now, you don't even have to move, I strongly recommend you learn to stand still in a hill without using the brake. If at a traffic light you will be able to coast away much quicker and you're less likely to stall since you're already basically in gear. Remember if your bike don't have a slipper clutch don't do this! Even with a slipper clutch there is pre-planning, and over doing it, I bet you can use your own best judgement ! Sorry for a super long post, just felt it was a nice tip from a complete noob, since I got this tip from my riding instructor just today ;>
good video you left a few things out when you have the brakes on (front or rear or both) and you slip the clutch into the friction zone, the front of your bike will nose down when the clutch starts to pull - I cant see it in your video because of the angle of the camera and the camera is moving too much, but if you are looking for it you cant miss it. when the nose of the bike goes down the engine is pulling the bike, when you let off the brake it will go forward. You can try this on level ground with the rear brake on and see it pitch down. the other thing that makes people panic: clutches in cars are dry - they are in the air most motorcycles have wet clutches, they are in the same oil bath as the engine and transmission (except BMW for one). You can slip the clutch on a motorcycle way way more without doing any damage or burning it because it is cooled by that oil, when its slipping in the friction zone. So dont be afraid to slip your clutch on a motorcycle, while taking off on a hill, riding very slow, making U turns or parking lot maneuvers - ie dont panic - its made to slip - you wont hurt anything
I live in San Francisco where the hills are notoriously steep. If you're quick about it you can ride your clutch a little with no problems. Lots of people get worried it will shorten the life of the clutch but it should be fine if done right. To back this up my car has 300,000 miles on it and I've yet to replace the clutch which still feels fine.
About 2 months ago, I had to stop on a pretty steep hill at an intersection that I had never been to in my city. I knew what to do but had never actually practiced it before. I tried to go and stalled it with a line of cars behind me… I panicked and started the bike back up and throttled hard. I wheelied through the intersection with both of my feet dangling off the sides of the bike. I felt like such an idiot. Cracks me up every time I get to that intersection now 😂 it was also the first time I had wheelied my bike so needless to say, it was a humbling experience.
Cheers mate, great video! (By the way it's like using a handbrake in manual cars on hills. It's basically the same, you throttle+clutch, feel the car wants to move forward, then you release the handbrake.)
"I just want to take off and look sexy while I'm doing it" hahahaha don't we all!? Mate great video! Was super helpful for me being a beginner :) Thanks!
Never stalled my MT-03, until I quit for 2 months and stalled like 5 times on a crowded parking lot and burnt my leg on the clutch cover last hour, it was though and embarrasing 😂 might have to take all my mods off so no one humiliates me. Thank you bro 👍
Thanks man! You make it really simple. Just got my first bike. (Vulcan 750) I love the bike but have felt like an ass when it comes to things like this. I'm gonna use you methodology from here on out. Good videos.
Thank you so much!!!!!!!!! As total beginner! I can't wait for that second nature 🤣 At the minute, hill starts are 😭 But very clear explanation!! Thanks
@Duotwk You can do that, but it does wear your clutch out quicker and if you have ever been in traffic in england you'll know its annoying and your hand starts to cramp up holding it stationary for so long.
Hey, thanks for all the cool vids & tuts. I'm only 16 (living in the Netherlands) so my scooter (Yamaha Aerox) got stolen. And I wanted to buy a Yamaha TZR. I didn't know how to ride manual. Thanks to you I did a test drive. I came to the conclusion that the tzr standard has waaaay to less power :P Right now I'm building my own Aerox 70cc :)
I like your videos. They are nice because i like the fact that u say stuff during them to keep them interesting and i like the 250r (and would like to own next spring.) but if i could make a video suggestion, you have all these videos about how to star the bike, clean it, fuel it and so on, you should make a video about how to ENJOY it. Whats fun to do, paces to go, places not to go, whats exciting, whats boring. things of that nature. just a suggestion -Peace
Thanks! I am considering getting my bike license and first bike and was wondering about hill starts. Hahah you read my mind when you said have to "look sexy".
This video. I was picking up first bike and didn't account for hills on way to my 'get familiar with bike' parking lot..on the first uphill lights I wheelied misdudgeing throtle while focused on not rolling on cars behind but luckily managed to balance..everybody behind was thinking that was cool got some nods from other biker meanwhile I almost shat myself. It is really like you say - just treat it like normal road and you ll be fine :)
Basically the reason why I’m here is because to get to work there is a really steep hill I have to go up which has a red light at the top and it’s an extremely busy road so it scares the shot out of me
I passed my Mod 2 on Thursday, received 1 rider fault for approach speed though. (10 minors count as a fail in the UK) I'm now free to ride any size bike I want! Woo!
When the road slopes to your left with a heavy bike it’s hard to put your left foot down, can you hill start with your right foot on the ground (high side of the hill) using the hand brake obviously?
You can bro 👍 using the front brake, clutch, and throttle all at the same time is difficult for a lot so that's why people prefer the rear brake. What bike do you have?
@LMF5000 you face the bike facing upwards, with it in first gear and roll it back until it locks. easier to park on the left hand side of the road so the front wheel is steered toward the gutter.
Hey! I don't have a motorcycle at the moment to make a video like this. But I can tell you, to ride down a steep incline, it's going to be your speed you want to control, right. So, use your gearing for this, stay in a low gear, maybe gear 1 or 2 (depends, just get a feel for what you're comfortable with), the gears will engine-brake for you and stop you from just free-rolling down the hill. Additionally, use your brakes as well. Your front brake will be most effective, as all the weight will be on your front wheel, but your rear brake would be good to use to control your speed too. Just don't lockup your rear brake, as it won't have a lot of weight on it, it won't take too much pressure to possibly lock (still take a bit, but just don't get panicky and grab the rear brake hard, haha). I would even stop/start on the hill going down. Get comfortable with it. Just roll, then stop. Roll then stop. Get more comfortable and eventually steep declines (you said incline, but I think you mean riding downhill yes? I hope so, haha). Cheers, thanks for commenting. Let me know how you go.
@@blinkycab Thank you for your clear and detailed explanation! What I do is I hold the clutch all the way in (with the shifter in neutral or in first gear) and brake with both the brakes! Is using this method completely okay?
@@blinkycab Yes, I meant riding downhill (a very steep downslope). Thanks for the correction from "incline" to "decline"! I'm a newbie rider, so at times going downhill I keep my left foot on the ground so as not to lose my balance! 😀
@@kirangnanaiah4091 Ultimately, you ride however is most comfortable and safe for you. But personally, I wouldn't hold the clutch in, I would let the clutch out so the gear engages and the engine braking will help to control your speed. If you go TOO slow, of course you'll lose balance, but putting your foot on the ground as you ride I wouldn't think is the best thing to do, it itself could cause you to lose your balance at some point accidentally maybe. Whatever works for you my friend :) Depends on the hill, and speed etc. Just be safe and have fun!
random, but what would be a good, cheap starter bike for a younger fellow looking to get into motorcycling? (ive been looking for sportbikes, unless thats a bad decision.)
@goodtubesdaddy Use brakes while leaving the clutch engaged. When you get to low RPM's (idle range), then grab the clutch to prevent engine from stalling. The engine helps with braking and gives you more control. Plus, it allows you to get back on the throttle quicker and easier.
I find this and a car is three steps . One take the strain ie load the engine against the clutch and then forget that. Second step is release the brake and now the last step is to do a normal pull away from your previous take the strain position ie little more throttle and release the rest of the clutch.
Thanks for the vid! Im on my Ls atm and i had my biggest challenge of hillstart 2 days ago goin up the mountains. Stalled it once as i wasnt revving it enough goin up so i had no choice but to do a hillstart halfway up! Lol i got out of it ok! I still have alot to learn.... So whats the right gear i should be on whilst goin up a hill or to tackle a mountain?
So some people do buy a bike before they are able to actually ride it well and safe? Is there nothing like a driving test or "driving" school for motorbikes in the states or australia?
28 years a biker and now I’m learning car, the hill starts are the worst thing ever. Still waiting for car to feel like a fun activity. I love my bikes.
Hahaha, yeah, bikes are way more fun than a car! Just wear your motorcycle gear while you drive, and maybe it'll feel like you're riding a bike ;) Thanks for watching and commenting.
This is the way I do it when I am riding two up an need to keep both feet down to be stable. I hate it when there is a cager just a couple of feet behind me whenI am on a steep incline at a stop with a pillion on my cruiser.
I have a silly (but related) question. In cars we have hand brakes to let us park on hills. With bikes, do you just use the stand if you want to park on a hill? Is there a limit to how steep a hill can be? In Malta we have hills with a 30 or 40 degree incline - even cars struggle to climb those without skidding!
11 years and no answer! when you park a motorcycle on the street, never park it parallel to the curb, for a couple reasons nose the bike towards the center of the street, so its taking up the width of the parking space, and let the bike roll back till the rear wheel is against the curb. Make sure its in 1st gear, engine off, kickstand down, and its not going anywhere. The other big reason, when you pull out you can see whats coming up behind you on the street, you dont have to depend on your mirror to make sure there is no traffic coming as you pull out.
Heya! Thanks for the subscription. It's an older vid. I don't have the Ninja anymore. I got an R6 at one point but sold that end of last year. Thanks for watching the video and commenting. I just vlog now :)
@stjeepan I did that when i was teaching myself gears down the car park by the sea front, i kept stalling and got really annoyed so i revved up like 7 thousand and just released the clutch fast and popped a huge wheelie by mistake. didnt fall off though :P
what bike have you tried it with 0_o? See cause it all depends if you can ride and what you ride with, and if you can ride then your set but can you float?
Hi. I just got a new Ninja 250R a couple of days ago. Where I live, there's a lot of inclined streets, so knowing how to hill start is a must. I tried practicing today on a pretty steep hill, I would stop in the middle and then practice how to start. However, I tried to do everything on this vid (Use rear break, give it more throttle as I let go of the clutch) but when I give it throttle the engine would get weaker and I'd end up stalling! Help. =[
Gah...this is the hardest thing for me! My husband and stepson do it like it's nothing. I feel so unbalanced. Sometimes I wonder if I was more flat footed it wouldn't feel so unbalanced. My husband thinks I'm just letting off the clutch to quick...thanks for the great video! I'm going to practice some of these tips!
Stay in the friction zone as you pull away (so controlling speed with clutch, not the throttle) and give it more throttle than you would on the flat, otherwise you'll stall. Hope that helps!!
@blinkycab i wouldn't say that, jeans do work, but obviously don't provide padding in certain spots. I've lowsided with jeans 3 times lol, you get a really small hole from the impact at 30-40 mph and you bleed, not that bad :D
Blinky, when im gonna get a brand new 250 R in a coupple, years , i wounder, when i'll break in the engine, like, driving at the city and shit, is like normal clothes that covers my body good egnough? i mean trafic around here is liek limists of 50KM/h, if i would crash at that speed, without leather, would i get suvearly hurt?
This has been my biggest fear ever since I got my licence. I had to google this video! Now... I'm far more confident, even with driving manual cars for 12 years prior ! Riding a 250kg bike is no joke for a beginner! (Suzuki GSX650F)
250kg is a beast, here I am struggling with a 180kg bike 😂 stalled like 5 times today on a crowded parking lot, it was very steep. Haven't been on it for 2 months.
learned this the hard way on a cold morning..took me a few stalls and a shitload of honking behind me haha
thats nightmare
Panic moment hahahaha 😅
exactly what happened to me today 😅
Factss
I just did plus had my bike on its side lol cuz i accidentally released the clutch. Thank god i only scratched the exhaust cover
I once stalled on the same hill probably 10 times. There was a traffic light. I kissed go twice. People got pissed. My boyfriend was in his car behind me so he put his hazard lights on so cars knew something was up. Got it eventually. God. First hill I'd ever stopped at. Hardly ever stall on it now. Be confident!!
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That would've been stressful! Glad you came out of it okay. We are all human and we all live and learn. All good - thanks for the comment ;)
***** haha yeah, it was my first time riding by myself (without another rider) on my new bike. The biting point was quite small. I stalled it a lot when I first got it but now I hardly ever stall. Confidence is definatly key. You cant expect yourself to be amazing first time. And np :)
So I guess variants on this anecdote (which I had, tonight) explain the view count vs subs :o
(Your teaching style is great, blinky)
xsassyxbluex hi, I know this is late haha but how long did it take for you to ride out on the roads comfortably and also taking off from uphill I’m a learner amd I stalled so many times on this one hill, it was embarrassing
I just started riding (400 Miles so far). This advice plays in my head each time I'm stuck on a hill and it's priceless. I took MSF and they don't really cover this specifically. We've got real steep grades around here and it's second nature now. Thank you and yes I'm looking sexy while doing it every time now.
Doing hill starts really worried me. I worked out the sequence by sitting on a kitchen chair at home and then practising it at an empty car park with a suitable incline. Practising late at night when there are few cars also helped me. Riding at dawn on a Sunday is also good as most people are sleeping in and the road is quiet for you to practice and build confidence.
Makes me so happy that you guys drive on the same side of the road as us here in the UK. It helps to not confuse me 😂 Thank you for making this video, I've had some recent bad experiences with hill starts on my bike and seeing as I have to do one nearly immediately after I leave my garage I definitely need to nail it! 🙏
Thanks for your kind comment. Yeah, it certainly helps when everything lines up and it’s not reversed, hahaha. Like anything, it’s just practice, but also, confidence! KNOW that you can do it, and you’ll believe in your abilities, and practicing will allow you to nail it time and time again. You got it!! We all start somewhere. Everyone learns. Even Valentino Rossi had to learn one day. I appreciate you watching my old video, glad it still helps this many years later.
Oh, I’m blinkycab by the way. Just my new account. Thanks again!
@@MitchSoda Been riding for awhile, avoided hills until today and damn this helped, thank you.
Blinkycab, just wanted to say thanks for the vids. As a new rider it's good to see someone offering encouragement to people new to bikes. If you're not already an instructor then there's definitely a possible career there (much friendlier than the grumpy old guy who taught me!) Keep 'em coming!
this might be 11 years old, but still very helpful, bought a bike recently and have been practicing, i gotta start using the rear brake more instead of always relying on the front to stop, Thanks for the video 👍
12 years old probably now, but here I am, commenting 10 months later, haha. You using the rear brake more? Cheers
A massive thank you from me for this vid as it helped me pass my test this week. Was struggling with the incline start, but your enthusiasm and technique saved the day! Blessings, mate!
Congratulations on passing your test. I'm glad this video helped. Thanks for the comment, stay cool!
***** Cheers!, when does your new bike arrive?
Sometime in Feb! Hopefully EARLY Feb :)
Awesome tip to figure this out....relieved I found this video. Taking my bike out into traffic for the first time today and scared shitless.
Small grade hills like this weren't a problem for me on my first day of riding my Ninja 250 on the road yesterday, but steep hills with stop signs at the top really sketch me out, both for stopping smoothly and softly and for starting off again.
Thanks!!!! I have a really steep hill with a stop sign at the end and I've been avoiding it as much as possible. Thanks a bunch
Thanks so much for this video man. I just recently purchased my first ever bike, a Honda grom 2019, and I stalled on a big hill with two cars behind me. Thankfully they were paying attention and passed me, but I was so scared! I’m going to go on a ride later tonight and try to go up that hill again because you gave me motivation. :)
favorite part:
"just give it as much throttle as you'd like!"
i got ybr 125cc june started gettin confidence then came off in rain took confidence away hav not been able to get to grips with hill starts and your vid has really helped me along with most of your vids thanks
Thanks for the tip. I stalled 3 times on my first hill start (in busy traffic) before I realised I still had my foot on the brake. Doh!
I just bought a bike today and I was struggling with holding the front brake and throttle at the same time. Thank you so much for the help, and the way you say it is so helpful. Thanks. Triumph Bonneville T120.
nice, i love the "pretending-doing-stuff because a passing car" thingie
Thanks! I liked it too haha :)
blinkycab so you don't ever put it in neutral because then you have to lift both feet of ground right lol. So approach stop on a hill in first hold the clutch in and then back brake? The. Let go of brake and go
Then you always have left foot free while your stopped or in first to plant on the floor
Thank you so much!!
there is a small hill after i get out of my neighbor hood at a red light. i stalled my ninja 250r like 3 times on that hill because i was afraid and i couldn't get it right.
this video helped. now i know what to do and i'm gonna practice it on my driveway (my drive way is pretty steep too). i just got my 2009 red ninja 250r last week and have about 50 miles on it now :)
Loved the video great simple and definitely it's all about looking as swagger as possible when taking off!
40 Year old picked up my brand new bike today and while still on L's went for a ride with a mate. Stressful Terrifying Hilarious Fun really enjoyed it hadn't ridden for 20 years. Last corner before my house is a death hill with stop sign. Behind me was a bus during peak hour. Stall probably 10 times felt like a scrub but eventually intuited the rear break slip clutch. I just need more practice. Really loving the bike cannot wait to ride more just terrifying and I need to breath and relax! Thanks for the tips!
THIS IS HOW I DO ALL MY TAKE OFFS, HELPS GET ME MOVING QUICKER. Also people remember to give it a rev when you downshift, its good for the bike, and you wont jerk.
thanks for doing this blinky, not sure how many people had ask you to do a video on taking of on a hill but i was one of them. very much appreciated. thank you!
Watching some of your videos and M13's videos is what got me into riding 8 years ago. An old comment from another acct is somewhere below. I sort of remember how it happened. I was watching videos and realised hey, I'm of age to get a licence why not get a bike and have that freedom (I wasn't old enough to get my P's for a car) and within a week or 2 I got my licence done and bought a bike
I remember when I was first learning how to drive a manual car and everybody made a big deal about the hills so I was kind of worried. They would tell me all these weird techniques with the handbrake and such. But it's really no big deal at all. You just have to give it a little more gas and slip the clutch a bit more. But I guess some people tend to panic if they feel their car or bike roll back.
Thanks for the vid & you're right it's practice !!. where i live and often ride on the moors of yorkshire there's some junctions in towns around the howarth/keighley area that are much steeper than where you showed us, and the fact that it's so easy to stall my 125 honda looking for the biting point while holding it with the brake, means it can take me a few goes to get it right, but i think i'm improving, and have to say that i've found most motorists behind me have shown patience when i dont always get it right, which is great to see. next time i go up a steep and quiet lane i think i will spend 15 mins practicing a bit more. cheers
I didn't know Sydney is so hilly everywhere until I started to ride a bike! Lucky lots of hills where I live so I've been pracitsing hard on the backstreets before I hit the traffic! Thanks for the videolots of hillslots of hills
Now I'm currently in driving school, and have had 2 sessions. Just today I started on steep inclines, and how to start. Before this I used to drive a manual car, however switched to automatic. bla bla, the thing is if you're like me, you don't exactly have your senses super fine tuned so you cannot feel that the bike is hitting the gear engagement. Just keep your foot on the rear brake don't give gas, now find the clutch point, you will hear the engine rpm slow down, and you might feel the bike jolt a tiny teensy bit, now you can apply a little throttle, and you can release the brake, and just keep your current clutch point. Coz you can basically just stand there now, you don't even have to move, I strongly recommend you learn to stand still in a hill without using the brake. If at a traffic light you will be able to coast away much quicker and you're less likely to stall since you're already basically in gear. Remember if your bike don't have a slipper clutch don't do this! Even with a slipper clutch there is pre-planning, and over doing it, I bet you can use your own best judgement !
Sorry for a super long post, just felt it was a nice tip from a complete noob, since I got this tip from my riding instructor just today ;>
Thanks for covering this topic. I was just thinking about this the other day since I am thinking of riding a bike.
good video
you left a few things out
when you have the brakes on (front or rear or both) and you slip the clutch into the friction zone, the front of your bike will nose down when the clutch starts to pull - I cant see it in your video because of the angle of the camera and the camera is moving too much, but if you are looking for it you cant miss it.
when the nose of the bike goes down the engine is pulling the bike, when you let off the brake it will go forward. You can try this on level ground with the rear brake on and see it pitch down.
the other thing that makes people panic: clutches in cars are dry - they are in the air
most motorcycles have wet clutches, they are in the same oil bath as the engine and transmission (except BMW for one). You can slip the clutch on a motorcycle way way more without doing any damage or burning it because it is cooled by that oil, when its slipping in the friction zone.
So dont be afraid to slip your clutch on a motorcycle, while taking off on a hill, riding very slow, making U turns or parking lot maneuvers - ie dont panic - its made to slip - you wont hurt anything
I never thought about this my first time riding to work. Its all uphill... I learned by quickly taking my finger off the brake and accelerating Lol
Thanks for the tut Blinky. Practised my first few hill starts the other day, was a lot easier than I thought it would be.
I live in San Francisco where the hills are notoriously steep. If you're quick about it you can ride your clutch a little with no problems. Lots of people get worried it will shorten the life of the clutch but it should be fine if done right. To back this up my car has 300,000 miles on it and I've yet to replace the clutch which still feels fine.
Great stuff. Your vids are the most informative I have found and also the highest quality. Thank you.
About 2 months ago, I had to stop on a pretty steep hill at an intersection that I had never been to in my city. I knew what to do but had never actually practiced it before. I tried to go and stalled it with a line of cars behind me… I panicked and started the bike back up and throttled hard. I wheelied through the intersection with both of my feet dangling off the sides of the bike. I felt like such an idiot. Cracks me up every time I get to that intersection now 😂 it was also the first time I had wheelied my bike so needless to say, it was a humbling experience.
😂 not the skill you asked for but you got it boss
Cheers mate, great video! (By the way it's like using a handbrake in manual cars on hills. It's basically the same, you throttle+clutch, feel the car wants to move forward, then you release the handbrake.)
"I just want to take off and look sexy while I'm doing it" hahahaha don't we all!? Mate great video! Was super helpful for me being a beginner :) Thanks!
Never stalled my MT-03, until I quit for 2 months and stalled like 5 times on a crowded parking lot and burnt my leg on the clutch cover last hour, it was though and embarrasing 😂 might have to take all my mods off so no one humiliates me. Thank you bro 👍
Thats cooll...and after watching this , i feel thing pretty easy...thanx brotha...love from india❤
Thanks man! You make it really simple. Just got my first bike. (Vulcan 750) I love the bike but have felt like an ass when it comes to things like this. I'm gonna use you methodology from here on out. Good videos.
Thank you so much!!!!!!!!! As total beginner! I can't wait for that second nature 🤣
At the minute, hill starts are 😭
But very clear explanation!! Thanks
@EchoNatek YES. The foot is for the rear and the right side hand brake is for the front.
haha, "don't be a....scared."
@Duotwk You can do that, but it does wear your clutch out quicker and if you have ever been in traffic in england you'll know its annoying and your hand starts to cramp up holding it stationary for so long.
I have just started riding and i am really scared of starting or stopping in a slope.. this was very helpful..
you make everything sounds easy, love this guy, gotta give you some credits for that. thank you very much!!
Hey, thanks for all the cool vids & tuts.
I'm only 16 (living in the Netherlands) so my scooter (Yamaha Aerox) got stolen. And I wanted to buy a Yamaha TZR. I didn't know how to ride manual. Thanks to you I did a test drive. I came to the conclusion that the tzr standard has waaaay to less power :P
Right now I'm building my own Aerox 70cc :)
Good video thanks for it..
But why cant i use the front brake instead of the rear?
You can use the front brake too if you want. Whatever is most comfortable for you. :)
I like your videos. They are nice because i like the fact that u say stuff during them to keep them interesting and i like the 250r (and would like to own next spring.) but if i could make a video suggestion, you have all these videos about how to star the bike, clean it, fuel it and so on, you should make a video about how to ENJOY it. Whats fun to do, paces to go, places not to go, whats exciting, whats boring. things of that nature. just a suggestion
-Peace
Thanks! I am considering getting my bike license and first bike and was wondering about hill starts. Hahah you read my mind when you said have to "look sexy".
This video. I was picking up first bike and didn't account for hills on way to my 'get familiar with bike' parking lot..on the first uphill lights I wheelied misdudgeing throtle while focused on not rolling on cars behind but luckily managed to balance..everybody behind was thinking that was cool got some nods from other biker meanwhile I almost shat myself. It is really like you say - just treat it like normal road and you ll be fine :)
Find the biggest hill he said. I live in Funchal..
Basically the reason why I’m here is because to get to work there is a really steep hill I have to go up which has a red light at the top and it’s an extremely busy road so it scares the shot out of me
May I ask where this is at? Looks quite beautiful.
Brisbane, Australia - Thanks for watching :)
I passed my Mod 2 on Thursday, received 1 rider fault for approach speed though. (10 minors count as a fail in the UK)
I'm now free to ride any size bike I want! Woo!
When the road slopes to your left with a heavy bike it’s hard to put your left foot down, can you hill start with your right foot on the ground (high side of the hill) using the hand brake obviously?
You can bro 👍 using the front brake, clutch, and throttle all at the same time is difficult for a lot so that's why people prefer the rear brake. What bike do you have?
Australian guide, I approve, hello from Brisbane.
@LMF5000 you face the bike facing upwards, with it in first gear and roll it back until it locks. easier to park on the left hand side of the road so the front wheel is steered toward the gutter.
Hi, could you do a video on how to ride down a very steep decline?
Hey! I don't have a motorcycle at the moment to make a video like this. But I can tell you, to ride down a steep incline, it's going to be your speed you want to control, right. So, use your gearing for this, stay in a low gear, maybe gear 1 or 2 (depends, just get a feel for what you're comfortable with), the gears will engine-brake for you and stop you from just free-rolling down the hill. Additionally, use your brakes as well. Your front brake will be most effective, as all the weight will be on your front wheel, but your rear brake would be good to use to control your speed too. Just don't lockup your rear brake, as it won't have a lot of weight on it, it won't take too much pressure to possibly lock (still take a bit, but just don't get panicky and grab the rear brake hard, haha). I would even stop/start on the hill going down. Get comfortable with it. Just roll, then stop. Roll then stop. Get more comfortable and eventually steep declines (you said incline, but I think you mean riding downhill yes? I hope so, haha). Cheers, thanks for commenting. Let me know how you go.
@@blinkycab Thank you for your clear and detailed explanation! What I do is I hold the clutch all the way in (with the shifter in neutral or in first gear) and brake with both the brakes! Is using this method completely okay?
@@blinkycab Yes, I meant riding downhill (a very steep downslope). Thanks for the correction from "incline" to "decline"! I'm a newbie rider, so at times going downhill I keep my left foot on the ground so as not to lose my balance! 😀
@@kirangnanaiah4091 Ultimately, you ride however is most comfortable and safe for you. But personally, I wouldn't hold the clutch in, I would let the clutch out so the gear engages and the engine braking will help to control your speed. If you go TOO slow, of course you'll lose balance, but putting your foot on the ground as you ride I wouldn't think is the best thing to do, it itself could cause you to lose your balance at some point accidentally maybe. Whatever works for you my friend :) Depends on the hill, and speed etc. Just be safe and have fun!
@@kirangnanaiah4091 TheMitchellOrth is my main account, I replied with that :) Thx
What jacket are you wearing? Also are those denim jeans, or kevlar? Awesome video!
I can't wait to get a motorcycle! Every time I watch a video it makes me want one more. :D
I'm a noobie and that's great advice, thanks good video
I really like your videos, bro. Thanks for sharing the knowledge!
random, but what would be a good, cheap starter bike for a younger fellow looking to get into motorcycling? (ive been looking for sportbikes, unless thats a bad decision.)
What do you use to record video and voice? I noticed your camera is on the outside of your helmet but we can hear your perfectly.
@goodtubesdaddy Use brakes while leaving the clutch engaged. When you get to low RPM's (idle range), then grab the clutch to prevent engine from stalling. The engine helps with braking and gives you more control. Plus, it allows you to get back on the throttle quicker and easier.
I find this and a car is three steps . One take the strain ie load the engine against the clutch and then forget that. Second step is release the brake and now the last step is to do a normal pull away from your previous take the strain position ie little more throttle and release the rest of the clutch.
hey blinky cab, when your going to a make a sttop like a full stop do u use yuhr clutch and then brake..?
A hillside street has stairs for sidewalks. I just stalled on one of those, a little scary.
Thanks dude. Good tip. Australia pride!
Thanks for the vid! Im on my Ls atm and i had my biggest challenge of hillstart 2 days ago goin up the mountains. Stalled it once as i wasnt revving it enough goin up so i had no choice but to do a hillstart halfway up! Lol i got out of it ok! I still have alot to learn....
So whats the right gear i should be on whilst goin up a hill or to tackle a mountain?
So some people do buy a bike before they are able to actually ride it well and safe? Is there nothing like a driving test or "driving" school for motorbikes in the states or australia?
28 years a biker and now I’m learning car, the hill starts are the worst thing ever. Still waiting for car to feel like a fun activity. I love my bikes.
Hahaha, yeah, bikes are way more fun than a car! Just wear your motorcycle gear while you drive, and maybe it'll feel like you're riding a bike ;) Thanks for watching and commenting.
Could you do a video on parking on a motorcycle?
thanks mate, this helped me allot with hill starting
Thanks mate for the vlog
Cheers!
I tried doing it on my drive way that’s slightly up and I stalled and fell on my left side :( but will practice more once I get it fixed
question, say you were on a hill at a stop and wanted to turn right, what would you do?
This is the way I do it when I am riding two up an need to keep both feet down to be stable. I hate it when there is a cager just a couple of feet behind me whenI am on a steep incline at a stop with a pillion on my cruiser.
I have a silly (but related) question. In cars we have hand brakes to let us park on hills. With bikes, do you just use the stand if you want to park on a hill? Is there a limit to how steep a hill can be? In Malta we have hills with a 30 or 40 degree incline - even cars struggle to climb those without skidding!
11 years and no answer!
when you park a motorcycle on the street, never park it parallel to the curb, for a couple reasons
nose the bike towards the center of the street, so its taking up the width of the parking space,
and let the bike roll back till the rear wheel is against the curb.
Make sure its in 1st gear, engine off, kickstand down, and its not going anywhere.
The other big reason, when you pull out you can see whats coming up behind you on the street, you dont have to depend on your mirror to make sure there is no traffic coming as you pull out.
@@kenwittlief255 11 years later, thanks 😁
Subscribed because we have the same bike :) what year is yours blinky ?
Heya! Thanks for the subscription. It's an older vid. I don't have the Ninja anymore. I got an R6 at one point but sold that end of last year. Thanks for watching the video and commenting. I just vlog now :)
Oh and my Ninja was a 2010 :)
awww sick , i just got mine yesterday (yr 2012)
keep making cool vids
Wont it burn the clutch over time, if u use brake while clutch engages?
good advice thanks man.
You're welcome, thanks for watching.
@ForceRecon198 yeah forget jeans man, when I came off the jeans did nothing to protect and they decintagrated....
@IcePickSnowmanzzzz What do they do, lay on the roof and stick their arm into the window to steer? That's riding, right?
@stjeepan I did that when i was teaching myself gears down the car park by the sea front, i kept stalling and got really annoyed so i revved up like 7 thousand and just released the clutch fast and popped a huge wheelie by mistake. didnt fall off though :P
what bike have you tried it with 0_o? See cause it all depends if you can ride and what you ride with, and if you can ride then your set but can you float?
Hi. I just got a new Ninja 250R a couple of days ago. Where I live, there's a lot of inclined streets, so knowing how to hill start is a must. I tried practicing today on a pretty steep hill, I would stop in the middle and then practice how to start. However, I tried to do everything on this vid (Use rear break, give it more throttle as I let go of the clutch) but when I give it throttle the engine would get weaker and I'd end up stalling! Help. =[
Gah...this is the hardest thing for me! My husband and stepson do it like it's nothing. I feel so unbalanced. Sometimes I wonder if I was more flat footed it wouldn't feel so unbalanced. My husband thinks I'm just letting off the clutch to quick...thanks for the great video! I'm going to practice some of these tips!
Stay in the friction zone as you pull away (so controlling speed with clutch, not the throttle) and give it more throttle than you would on the flat, otherwise you'll stall. Hope that helps!!
@@The63chicky Thanks that was exactly my problem, trying to control the speed with the throttle not the clutch and of course I stalled doing that!
Hey is the ninja comfortable to you? im thinking of buying one but didnt try any bikes yet =P
@blinkycab i wouldn't say that, jeans do work, but obviously don't provide padding in certain spots. I've lowsided with jeans 3 times lol, you get a really small hole from the impact at 30-40 mph and you bleed, not that bad :D
Great video, thank You 😃
A great tutorial, but please, make sure that you perform a life-saver check over your shoulder - and tell newbies to ALWAYS do one. Safe riding.
Blinky, when im gonna get a brand new 250 R in a coupple, years , i wounder, when i'll break in the engine, like, driving at the city and shit, is like normal clothes that covers my body good egnough? i mean trafic around here is liek limists of 50KM/h, if i would crash at that speed, without leather, would i get suvearly hurt?
@blinkycab You can get jeans with kevlar in them :D just for bikes ofc, not for awesome bulletproofness....
Thanks for the easy explanation.
THANKS VERY INFORMATIVE
LIke wen u get your license there is a test stop on a hill then u need to go forward with out moving back. So this is helps alot.
Hey dude, are you using a contour hd??
yay your back
What if you're accidentally in neutral? How do you take off?
This has been my biggest fear ever since I got my licence. I had to google this video!
Now... I'm far more confident, even with driving manual cars for 12 years prior ! Riding a 250kg bike is no joke for a beginner! (Suzuki GSX650F)
250kg is a beast, here I am struggling with a 180kg bike 😂 stalled like 5 times today on a crowded parking lot, it was very steep. Haven't been on it for 2 months.