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Stop turning shit into yarn. Also, recyclability #6 plastic can act just like shrinky-dinks if you need shrinky-dink plastic even dirt-cheaper than it already was for microfluidics.
Awesome Video! As soon as I saw your wet spinning setup, NightHawkInLight - Ben, Immediately came to mind! I am glad you guys are already aware of each other and I can't wait until we get to see more from you both, about this, his fabric, and the wet spinning technique. How exciting! Awesomeness Guys 👍
Hey thought emporium, as for the meat glue I would reccomend you put a small warning somewhere that people should be careful with this stuff. If you breathe in some meat glue you can glue the inside of your lungs together.
Are you using mud pans from home depot for the coagulation bath? because the metal ones rust if you look too intensely at them, they make yellow plastic ones of a similar dimensions.
0:28 "we're gonna turn shrimp into fabric" 6:32 "actually let's use crayfish instead" 8:55 "actually let's not use any of those" Behold, the ship of Theseus.
Yeah, that kind of blew. I know theoretically it's the same thing but if I wanted to see how you could theoretically turn shrimp into silk I wouldn't have clicked the video.
The science experiment YT community is wild and I love it. Nile: transforming random objects into food Thought Emporium: transforming foods into random objects Styropyro: *apply higher voltage*
So happy you're already thinking about sky cooling with this! Thanks for the great shoutout btw, much appreciated. If possible you should try the mixed solvent method of adding micro voids into the fibers. That'll get you a long way toward the reflectivity you need for sky cooling and it seems to still work nicely when you add pigments like silica nanospheres. If mixed solvents doesn't work maybe mixing in PEO to be dissolved out later would add some reflective porosity. I need to play with some of this shrimp sauce myself.
Try using a drop spindle on extremely small fibers to spin them together to make a thicker one you can knit with. Id like to see you work a few rows of that. Crochet a shrimp.
He said in one of his live streams that he got outside investors involved in the project so it has gone cold for that reason because this could see real commercial success. But he doesn't want any people to steal his work and patent it so that all of this progress is for nothing (or maybe that's what the investor said. I'm not 100% sure, all I know is he did specifically say a lot of progress has been made but he can't talk about it yet (
@@MeMyFriendsandPie I vaguely remember seeing that since I don't subscribe to his channel and it was a long time ago, but my only thought the whole time was "Great way to get instant super cancer"
@@StrangeScaryNewEngland The issue that I have with his videos is not that the science or chemistry is dangerous or anything like that, most things we eat nowadays have man made chemicals in them, but the fact that too many companies lie about what they put in their products, especially gloves for example, since they were not expected to be eaten. So any trace amount of potentially cancer causing material that wasn't listed to consumers that might usually be okay for regular glove use is suddenly 1000Xed since he is literally DRINKING it!
this is really interesting as someone who spins yarn! i need to rewatch the milk yarn video now, since when i first watched it i dont think i had started spinning. obviously what you produce is more of a fine, single yarn, but it would be really interesting to see how a yarn spun from a fiber (aka multiple thinner single yarns) made from the same stuff would act!
ayyyy I did science fair for two years on a different but also fundamentally similar concept - I was working on producing chitin out of mealworm sheds(mealworms are incredibly easy to cultivate, are versatile, and for my project I specifically chose them due to their ability to digest other plastics), which can then be processed into different products, including fabric. The process I used to pull chitin from the husks are almost exactly the same as the procedure you used, although with a weaker acid during demineralization because beetle larvae probably has a lot less minerals in their shells than a marine crustacean, and chose to hold off on deacetylation to keep the material mostly as base chitin instead of being mostly chitosan. I always love it when animal polymers get more attention in the media and the materials industry because it both appeals to my interest in ecology and biochemistry and is very easy to do. Don't try making chitin bioplastic out of shed insect skin on a small scale tho... you're just gonna be left with a tough film on the bottom of your beaker that's impossible to scrape off. At one point I considered refitting a 3d printer with the worm solution, but I never got enough material to even fill a 5ml syringe. I'd love to keep working on the project... if university applications will leave me time, and I can convince my mom to have barrels of smelly mealworms in the house again, but if I want to make something out of the material I actually got a big bag of chitin somewhere around the house that I could probably put to use.
Thanks for sharing your process, I always wondered if there was any way to repurpose this animal plastic to the point something in me made it hard to simply throw shrimp shells away but never actually gave it a try.
I just re-read your comment and saw that you're just a kid and mentioned college applications of your skills, so now I get why you did it for 2 years. Makes sense now. lol
So, if you can hypothetically do this with any source of chitin, does that mean that you could do it with moths to create a poetic cycle of consumption and rebirth of your clothes?
This is super cool! I wonder if people with shellfish allergies would react to the chitosan fabric? I suppose it depends what component of shellfish is the allergen that people react to, I’m unsure if it’s present in chitin. If the allergen is not in the chitin, I would hope the repeated washing processes would remove it and prevent cross contamination in the final product.
This piqued my interest and I did some cursory googling. Apparently people allergic to shellfish have reacted to Chitosan before, however the common allergens that people with shellfish allergies react to can be removed from the chitin to make it much less likely to cause reactions when processed into chitosan. Something to consider for sure!
Meat leaves, rat neurons playing doom, tactical hotdog cookers, and now shrimp fabric. What's next, apples that taste like bacon???? Wait that one is more nilereds thing
I learnt the word from Animorphs when I was a kid and it has believe it or not never come up in spoken conversation so today was the first day I've ever heard the correct pronunciation (I've been saying the "ch" like "chair" in my head) 😂😂
That *is* interesting, if you use insects instead of shellfish as the source of chitin one might be able to make an alternative to wool and cotton that uses less land and energy...
or just use shellfish. there's really no reason at all to use insects when shrimp/lobster/crab shells are extremely abundant as a waste product. why raise bugs for their shells alone when you could raise some sea bugs to eat and get bigger cleaner shells as a bonus?
@tissuepaper9962 i disagree with them as well but i can see where they're coming from, honestly. we already have a habit of overfishing and i doubt the yield is high enough to put to market properly.
Use those styrofoam-eating bugs (AKA superworms) to convert styrofoam into biodegradable fibers and polymers. That can solve the styrofoam waste problem!
@@MB-ev9ixI would bet you anything that with how big the market for pre shelled shrimp and prawns is, there's billions of pounds of shells that are being used for compost at best as is.
Hey! I have a solution to fix your snot difficulty dissolving. Mix it like you would a roux or cornstarch solution where you start by adding a small amount of liquid to the powder and mixing until it becomes a thick homogenous paste, then add the liquid in larger and larger batches, mixing until homogenous each time until finished. This works on many different substances that form films (like activated corn starch) or are moderately hydrophobic (like cocoa powder). Hope this helps!
Our uni group chat is called 12 shrimps and a probiotic for about a year now. We often make shrimp themed games for game jams as a running bit. Seeing this video get conjured up from the depths of an insane TH-camrs mind. I am 100% making references to this in the next game jams we do. 👍👍
Rather than just silica, I'm imagining Nighthawk's silica nanoparticles for opals are gonna be the real key to success as his project for growing opals seems to center around making opals that reflect in the infrared spectrum specifically. Really excited to see this project! They're gonna be like Aragonite threads! I also wonder if you couldn't make something like nitinol inlaid fabric that expands when it's hot to increase surface area.
Maybe it'd be better to see if you can add the acetyl groups back on after it's woven. If you can then you'd be able to do an intermediate step where you partially dissolve the surface to seal it. That might let you make things that are more along the lines of rain coats or wind breakers. EDIT: Going further, I wonder if you'd be able to add color to it before spinning so that, when you put the groups back on, you lock in the color so that it won't bleed out and will last a long time.
Very interesting. Actually I knew before even clicking on the video that you were going to use chitin. :) Mushrooms and other fungi also have a chitin-glucan complex as part of their cell walls, so chitin is not a "meat" exclusive. While it would probably not be economically feasible to use that for making fabric and other components in the present day, it does open up some possibilities in the future. Such as in space exploration and colonization where fungi could be grown hydroponically for both food and structural material purposes.
I assume not because it's not got everything that's in shrimp in it could be very wrong find your local person with a shellfish allergy and ask them to test it out for us
Aw heck yeah I’ve been working on chitin fiber too, inspired by your “turning milk into yarn” video *Edit:* my reply seems to have disappeared, so here’s the original text (sorry if it’s a duplicate) > Here’s a braindump: > I suppose some of the breakage you were seeing is from a degree of deacetylation that’s too high-it needs to be just high enough to solubilise, but not so high that it weakens the fiber. If you’re starting from scratch with shrimp shells, each preparation step (demineralisation, deproteination, depigmentation) causes some depolymerisation, which can lower the molecular weight too much to spin. So you really need to treat it very gently. > One thing you can try is solubilising the chitin before deacetylating-mix it at room temperature in a 8 wt% KOH / 4 wt% urea solution, and gradually lower the temperature to around −20 °C with stirring until it dissolves. You’re depending on freezing-point depression to make this work out, but the solution should end up stable enough to extrude and coagulate, and then deacetylate at high pH with gentle heat under tension (Mercerisation, effectively). I believe ethanol can replace formaldehyde in the coagulation bath, too. > So far this is the method I’ve cobbled together from literature that seems most achievable for the home chemist. Alternatives like “quaternised chitosan” (solubilised with quaternary ammonium compounds) are promising industrially but a bit too hazardous for my liking. > Glad you’re working on this and hope this is at all helpful, best of luck!
Instead of re-acetylating the chitosan to make it insoluble, consider reacting it with sodium alginate. Chitosan hydrochloride is fairly soluble in acetone (I did some research work making nanoparticles by rapidly adding it to concentrated aqueous sodium alginate with high stirring a long time ago, if you want to investigate that for a future video). The alginate's carboxyl groups readily form salts with the chitosan's amine groups that should yield a fairly durable (washable) biopolymer. Saturated chitosan hydrochloride in acetone could be injected into a concentrated aqueous sodium alginate solution and harden up almost immediately. Because of the heavy "cross-linking", I don't think it could be drawn much, but using a sufficiently small orifice it could likely be drawn over a single mandrel then dried with a hair dryer or heat gun before spooling.
Ohhh my god as a crocheter I am so in love with this... Have you thought about turning the leeched pigment into a dye for a finished spool of chitin yarn (yitin? charn?)
It's kinda cool too that given one of the steps is getting rid of the proteins, that should theoretically make it hypoallergenic to people with shellfish allergies. Least in all meta texts I've skimmed through on the issue when my mom started showing shrimp reactions
Oh this is SO cool!! The fiber looks similar to a linen or hemp yarn in texture (I'd love to know if that's an accurate guess) and it has that lovely little bit of luster once woven, like a really nice wool. I'm maybe thinking too big-scale here, but a lightweight, washable fiber made largely from an abundant waste product, AND potential cooling properties; if it's dyeable, this could be huge for phasing out polyester in clothing. I'm very excited to see where the next steps of this experiment lead.
Makes me think about a method of manufacturing that would spray the liquified chitosan onto a mold let it set and spray again to build up a significant layer then trim excess to size
If bugs is arthropods (things with exoskeletons and segmented legs), shrimps is bugs. If bugs is hemiptera ("true bugs". arthropods with 6 legs, sucky mouthparts, and which don't go through metamorphosis), shrimps is not bugs.
@@nathangamble125 people usually use this distinction for insects, and then argue about whether being terrestrial matters, with "bugs" being essentially any exoskeletal creature.
By Minute 3:00 you have created an ungodly nightmare, an amallgamation of multiple shrimp meat blended and fused togehter in a way where not even the origin is recognizable anymore.
I love how this whole video was like "Yeah we're gonna use shrimp. Actually we're gonna use crayfish. Remember the chitosan we've been trying to make? Yeah we're gonna use store-bought. Remember the machine we were gonna use to spin the fibers? Yeah we're doing that by hand now."
I was just left thinking that if they are gonna make another video when they work out the process, what is the point of making THIS video? Should've just waited until they actually do what they say in the title.
This is so cool! As an environment conscious fiber crafter it makes me happy to learn about new fiber sources for making stuff! But what really made it was that Black Books still of the traumatised child at the end. Classic.
Yes! So glad you're aware of the thermo-fabric project. Your milk puller was all I was thinking of when he was pulling strands with that rake by hand 😅
This is fascinating! I have worked with yarn that contains chitosan, but never really given a lot of thought as to how the fiber was made. One potential drawback worth noting is that some people who have allergies to shellfish CAN react to the chitosan fiber.
I mostly only know things about spinning wool, but would results be better if you broke it down a bit and then carted it? I truly have no clue but I remember that being a thing you could do to weave nylon
Learning about the sky cooling fabric even existing is something that has me drooling as someone who's very heat intolerant from chronic illness. If the whole sky cooling fabric thing becomes a success it could genuinely be extremely helpful for people with various illnesses and disabilities
A company called swtc used to make a yarn called tofutsies that had 2.5% chitin content. I have worked with it once and it was really strong, and marketed to have antimicrobial properties. In case thats helpful!
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First Spiders, now Shrimps... this guy has a serious thread of problems...
Stop turning shit into yarn. Also, recyclability #6 plastic can act just like shrinky-dinks if you need shrinky-dink plastic even dirt-cheaper than it already was for microfluidics.
Awesome Video! As soon as I saw your wet spinning setup, NightHawkInLight - Ben, Immediately came to mind! I am glad you guys are already aware of each other and I can't wait until we get to see more from you both, about this, his fabric, and the wet spinning technique. How exciting! Awesomeness Guys 👍
Hey thought emporium, as for the meat glue I would reccomend you put a small warning somewhere that people should be careful with this stuff. If you breathe in some meat glue you can glue the inside of your lungs together.
Are you using mud pans from home depot for the coagulation bath? because the metal ones rust if you look too intensely at them, they make yellow plastic ones of a similar dimensions.
turns out its quite shrimple
get out.
@@poppyrider5541 you're mom 😎
Shrimple as
@@generallyunimportant You are mom? You’re is you are
@@generallyunimportanthe got you there ngl
0:28 "we're gonna turn shrimp into fabric"
6:32 "actually let's use crayfish instead"
8:55 "actually let's not use any of those"
Behold, the ship of Theseus.
I think you mean shrimp of theseus
Yeah, that kind of blew. I know theoretically it's the same thing but if I wanted to see how you could theoretically turn shrimp into silk I wouldn't have clicked the video.
"we're gonna turn shrimp into fabric" - > "we're gonna turn shrimp shell into fabric"
@@thethoughtemporium you mean the Silk of Theseus?
@@oldcowbb Well that's a bit redundant because they can't exactly live without their shell.
Removing the exoskeleton from countless sea bugs and weaving them into exoskeletons for humans
"magical sun-cooled flexible chitin exoskeleton for humans" is exactly how I wanted to (poorly) summarise this!
Houseki no kuni type shit
isn’t that also just what we do to like, literally every other animal? skin it and wear it?
@@TheRealZazaExpert never expected this comment here
@@TheRealZazaExpert What's this?
The science experiment YT community is wild and I love it.
Nile: transforming random objects into food
Thought Emporium: transforming foods into random objects
Styropyro: *apply higher voltage*
Styropyro: *apply 100 MW of photons*
Don't forget the thought emporium classic of "turning food into vastly different food" like meat grapes and whatnot.
Don't forget ElectroBOOM... maybe Styropyro can be more specifically described as working with lasers for the most part
Integza: turning a can of tomato soup into a rocket engine.
@EversonBernardes just turning random stuff into propulsion systems
3:59 wait a minute, could you break chitin down to fermentable sugars and brew up some Shrimp Wine?
ya know, I hadn't considered it till now. * *adds to video list* *. You're welcome and I'm sorry
@@justinmeisse You fool, You have given him a horrible idea. This will not go well for anyone
I can only imagine what kind of arcane horrors are on that list!
I love your channel, thank you for doing what you do :)
You fool!
It's too late now, it's going to happen!
...
Thanks = D
Spider beer and shrimp wine. The collection of arthropod alcohol grows.
"A sweater made out of shrimp that makes you cold in full sun" is the best phrase in this video.
So happy you're already thinking about sky cooling with this! Thanks for the great shoutout btw, much appreciated. If possible you should try the mixed solvent method of adding micro voids into the fibers. That'll get you a long way toward the reflectivity you need for sky cooling and it seems to still work nicely when you add pigments like silica nanospheres. If mixed solvents doesn't work maybe mixing in PEO to be dissolved out later would add some reflective porosity. I need to play with some of this shrimp sauce myself.
I would love to see you actually collaborate on this
yo have no idea how happy I am to see this collab. absolutely looking forward to what you manage to create
You two collaborating on something would be insane!
seems like a version of this chitin goop would work well in your machine.... it's already extremely effective at making large sheets of fabric
I like your funny words magic man
2:06 "these are garbage, we will need them later". Literally me whenever mom asks if she can throw anything made out of metal/wood/cardboard
listen closely, he says "these areN'T garbage" , but your point still stands :D
Or my box of cables...
Fr bro, I have like 3kgs of random pen metal parts and some büllshït I picked off the ground.
@@osco4311I have a 30 pound 50gallon tub of cables...
I mean technically he threw them out and used premade chitosan.
My feed has so much US election content and then there's "Turning SHRIMP into Woven Fabric"
You can always count on. Thought emporium for the most random stuff that came from absolutely nowhere
thank god, finally a break
Shrimpler Times, Buddy, Shrimpler Times
A oasis on a desert
maybe if we try hard enough we can turn trump into fabric too
Try using a drop spindle on extremely small fibers to spin them together to make a thicker one you can knit with. Id like to see you work a few rows of that. Crochet a shrimp.
Oh, to crochet a shrimp amigurumi with shrimp yarn...
Are you telling me a shrimp wove this fabric?
Yes
No, the fabric wove the shrimp.
In a manner of speaking, yes.
Minimizing labor cost just got to a whole new level
ARE YOU TELLING ME A SHRIMP FRIED THIS RICE????
Most people seeing a shrimp: “Looks yummy.”
The Thought Emporium: “GIVE ME YOUR SKIN.”
He's like that guy in AHS: Asylum making lampshades outta people
"We're here to answer questions no sane person would've asked" This man knows his audience
How are you here
I know you’re a member but still idk how members work
so true'
I've heard the voice of Mr.Patashnik
@@Portallity Wtf are you talking about? lol
"chitin is just meat's attempt at making cellulose." That statement is equally brave as it is true
"Why Would You Say Something So Controversial Yet So Brave?" ~ Inserts Eric Andre pic
He made shrimp silk, but spidersilk has not made public progress for years
Pretty sure that's because golden orb weaver silk gene sequence has been patented or something like that.
He said in one of his live streams that he got outside investors involved in the project so it has gone cold for that reason because this could see real commercial success. But he doesn't want any people to steal his work and patent it so that all of this progress is for nothing (or maybe that's what the investor said. I'm not 100% sure, all I know is he did specifically say a lot of progress has been made but he can't talk about it yet (
@@the_undead probably already had a good method done and is now pending a patent
once the legal work is done he can just show it
@@RENO_K By definition, to get a patent, he has to publish it, so it'll happen, eventually. I look forward to reading the patent!
@@markopolo1271 The day patents are abolished is the day humanity will finally enter a new golden age
If life gave this guy lemons, he'd make a pair of socks
Actually, if you see any of NileRed or NileBlues videos. That statement is not to far away; i.e. Gloves into grape soda.
@@MeMyFriendsandPie I vaguely remember seeing that since I don't subscribe to his channel and it was a long time ago, but my only thought the whole time was "Great way to get instant super cancer"
and if you gave nilered a pair of socks, he’d make a lemon
@@StrangeScaryNewEngland The issue that I have with his videos is not that the science or chemistry is dangerous or anything like that, most things we eat nowadays have man made chemicals in them, but the fact that too many companies lie about what they put in their products, especially gloves for example, since they were not expected to be eaten. So any trace amount of potentially cancer causing material that wasn't listed to consumers that might usually be okay for regular glove use is suddenly 1000Xed since he is literally DRINKING it!
Shrimp silk? Must be exquisite.
20 times more expensive than a mansion in new York
@@Portallitylooks like the ex mayor of Ny might be interested
I don't know about that, but it's certainly shrimpquisite.
Thought Emporium-> make food into chemical
Nilered-> make chemical into food
ouroboros of science youtube
Extractions&Ire-> 🎊TAR! 🎊
Exept Nilered actually does it instead of not using the starting product at all and buying the already synthesized material
1:15 beef and pork damascus?
I hate that I want to try it!
why stop there?
beef, pork, turkey, bacon, duck, lamb, all layered together in a glorious monument to mankind's hubris.
Cheese Damascus?
Turduken. The new glue meat
😂
this is really interesting as someone who spins yarn! i need to rewatch the milk yarn video now, since when i first watched it i dont think i had started spinning. obviously what you produce is more of a fine, single yarn, but it would be really interesting to see how a yarn spun from a fiber (aka multiple thinner single yarns) made from the same stuff would act!
ayyyy
I did science fair for two years on a different but also fundamentally similar concept - I was working on producing chitin out of mealworm sheds(mealworms are incredibly easy to cultivate, are versatile, and for my project I specifically chose them due to their ability to digest other plastics), which can then be processed into different products, including fabric. The process I used to pull chitin from the husks are almost exactly the same as the procedure you used, although with a weaker acid during demineralization because beetle larvae probably has a lot less minerals in their shells than a marine crustacean, and chose to hold off on deacetylation to keep the material mostly as base chitin instead of being mostly chitosan. I always love it when animal polymers get more attention in the media and the materials industry because it both appeals to my interest in ecology and biochemistry and is very easy to do.
Don't try making chitin bioplastic out of shed insect skin on a small scale tho... you're just gonna be left with a tough film on the bottom of your beaker that's impossible to scrape off. At one point I considered refitting a 3d printer with the worm solution, but I never got enough material to even fill a 5ml syringe.
I'd love to keep working on the project... if university applications will leave me time, and I can convince my mom to have barrels of smelly mealworms in the house again, but if I want to make something out of the material I actually got a big bag of chitin somewhere around the house that I could probably put to use.
Thanks for sharing your process, I always wondered if there was any way to repurpose this animal plastic to the point something in me made it hard to simply throw shrimp shells away but never actually gave it a try.
very cool, wishing you the best on your chitinous journey lol
2 years and you didn't even get 5ml?!! I would've destroyed my stuff in absolute rage after 3 months
I just re-read your comment and saw that you're just a kid and mentioned college applications of your skills, so now I get why you did it for 2 years. Makes sense now. lol
Wow, thank you for taking the time to share your process and thoughts! May the Lord bless you and your work ❤❤
So, if you can hypothetically do this with any source of chitin, does that mean that you could do it with moths to create a poetic cycle of consumption and rebirth of your clothes?
I mean, we've been using moths to make fabric for 10,000 years.
Put some respect on Bombyx Mori.
@@1stCallipostle Interesting! Thanks for enlightening me to the already established methods of moth-clothing!
This is super cool! I wonder if people with shellfish allergies would react to the chitosan fabric? I suppose it depends what component of shellfish is the allergen that people react to, I’m unsure if it’s present in chitin. If the allergen is not in the chitin, I would hope the repeated washing processes would remove it and prevent cross contamination in the final product.
May contain: Your Fucked
This piqued my interest and I did some cursory googling. Apparently people allergic to shellfish have reacted to Chitosan before, however the common allergens that people with shellfish allergies react to can be removed from the chitin to make it much less likely to cause reactions when processed into chitosan. Something to consider for sure!
I wonder if the process also gets rid of the smell!
@@matthewcox7985 The yarn I've used that has chitosan has
13:23 who's the artist behind this one?
It is ai
Meat leaves, rat neurons playing doom, tactical hotdog cookers, and now shrimp fabric. What's next, apples that taste like bacon???? Wait that one is more nilereds thing
@@hukaman88 well, shrimp wine might be coming at some point based off another comment in this video
what a protfolio!
Yup .it's bacon
Meat based graphics card
@@Flesh_Wizardwith that name, I assume you're on it already
Happy to see this, I did my dissertation project on chitosan and tissue engineering thanks to your videos
0:12 bold of you to assume that I even seen one in real life let alone being at the fifth. People kill around here for one of that
3:49 THANK YOU FOR PRONOUNCING IT RIGHT I am a massive invertebrate fan and it’s frustrating to hear people constantly mispronounce it
Zitin
🪁 n
Lol. I've been calling it Schitin all my life 😆
I learnt the word from Animorphs when I was a kid and it has believe it or not never come up in spoken conversation so today was the first day I've ever heard the correct pronunciation (I've been saying the "ch" like "chair" in my head) 😂😂
People are so ignorant 😂
That *is* interesting, if you use insects instead of shellfish as the source of chitin one might be able to make an alternative to wool and cotton that uses less land and energy...
or just use shellfish. there's really no reason at all to use insects when shrimp/lobster/crab shells are extremely abundant as a waste product. why raise bugs for their shells alone when you could raise some sea bugs to eat and get bigger cleaner shells as a bonus?
@tissuepaper9962 i disagree with them as well but i can see where they're coming from, honestly. we already have a habit of overfishing and i doubt the yield is high enough to put to market properly.
Use those styrofoam-eating bugs (AKA superworms) to convert styrofoam into biodegradable fibers and polymers.
That can solve the styrofoam waste problem!
@Pixelarter just stop making disposable styrofoam! there's no reason to ever use disposable plastic anything, outside of a sterile medical context.
@@MB-ev9ixI would bet you anything that with how big the market for pre shelled shrimp and prawns is, there's billions of pounds of shells that are being used for compost at best as is.
Hey! I have a solution to fix your snot difficulty dissolving. Mix it like you would a roux or cornstarch solution where you start by adding a small amount of liquid to the powder and mixing until it becomes a thick homogenous paste, then add the liquid in larger and larger batches, mixing until homogenous each time until finished. This works on many different substances that form films (like activated corn starch) or are moderately hydrophobic (like cocoa powder). Hope this helps!
Nobody:
Absolutely no one:
Thought Emporium: *CAN YOU KNIT SHRIMP?*
4:41 no way you said a real word there
I love you
0:37 you don't happen to watch Kurtis Conner, do you
Am I silly or is that the exact same stock footage and everything
I've been watching him for years and I don't get the reference, is this supposed to be the whole Luscious Listings thing using mostly stock footage?
@@Cera_01 Kurtis used the exact same diving video at 34:57 (of his video lol). Idk, mostly likely just a coincidence.
IS THAT A LUSCIOUS LISTINGS REFERENCE ⁉️🗣️
@@sirsamiboiYESSSSS
Our uni group chat is called 12 shrimps and a probiotic for about a year now. We often make shrimp themed games for game jams as a running bit.
Seeing this video get conjured up from the depths of an insane TH-camrs mind. I am 100% making references to this in the next game jams we do. 👍👍
Shrimp is Bugs.
I am excited to learn more about the sun cooled fabric. That sounds like magic!
Rather than just silica, I'm imagining Nighthawk's silica nanoparticles for opals are gonna be the real key to success as his project for growing opals seems to center around making opals that reflect in the infrared spectrum specifically. Really excited to see this project! They're gonna be like Aragonite threads!
I also wonder if you couldn't make something like nitinol inlaid fabric that expands when it's hot to increase surface area.
Maybe it'd be better to see if you can add the acetyl groups back on after it's woven. If you can then you'd be able to do an intermediate step where you partially dissolve the surface to seal it. That might let you make things that are more along the lines of rain coats or wind breakers.
EDIT: Going further, I wonder if you'd be able to add color to it before spinning so that, when you put the groups back on, you lock in the color so that it won't bleed out and will last a long time.
We're all very proud of you, it took a lot of restraint to not make a shrimple joke
The return of everyone's favorite miracle material, **shrimp**
The process is actually remarkably shrimple
Finally, fabric that isn't just made of animal biproducts but instead the animals themselves.
Are you telling me a shrimp wove this shirt?
Very interesting. Actually I knew before even clicking on the video that you were going to use chitin. :)
Mushrooms and other fungi also have a chitin-glucan complex as part of their cell walls, so chitin is not a "meat" exclusive. While it would probably not be economically feasible to use that for making fabric and other components in the present day, it does open up some possibilities in the future. Such as in space exploration and colonization where fungi could be grown hydroponically for both food and structural material purposes.
would a person allergic to eating shrimp be allergic to this fabric
why would you eat the fabric?
I assume not because it's not got everything that's in shrimp in it could be very wrong find your local person with a shellfish allergy and ask them to test it out for us
@@deleted_handle difficult times i guess
2:45 I dont think shrimp carries salmonella normally...
You're joking about this right
Aw heck yeah I’ve been working on chitin fiber too, inspired by your “turning milk into yarn” video
*Edit:* my reply seems to have disappeared, so here’s the original text (sorry if it’s a duplicate)
> Here’s a braindump:
> I suppose some of the breakage you were seeing is from a degree of deacetylation that’s too high-it needs to be just high enough to solubilise, but not so high that it weakens the fiber. If you’re starting from scratch with shrimp shells, each preparation step (demineralisation, deproteination, depigmentation) causes some depolymerisation, which can lower the molecular weight too much to spin. So you really need to treat it very gently.
> One thing you can try is solubilising the chitin before deacetylating-mix it at room temperature in a 8 wt% KOH / 4 wt% urea solution, and gradually lower the temperature to around −20 °C with stirring until it dissolves. You’re depending on freezing-point depression to make this work out, but the solution should end up stable enough to extrude and coagulate, and then deacetylate at high pH with gentle heat under tension (Mercerisation, effectively). I believe ethanol can replace formaldehyde in the coagulation bath, too.
> So far this is the method I’ve cobbled together from literature that seems most achievable for the home chemist. Alternatives like “quaternised chitosan” (solubilised with quaternary ammonium compounds) are promising industrially but a bit too hazardous for my liking.
> Glad you’re working on this and hope this is at all helpful, best of luck!
Instead of re-acetylating the chitosan to make it insoluble, consider reacting it with sodium alginate. Chitosan hydrochloride is fairly soluble in acetone (I did some research work making nanoparticles by rapidly adding it to concentrated aqueous sodium alginate with high stirring a long time ago, if you want to investigate that for a future video). The alginate's carboxyl groups readily form salts with the chitosan's amine groups that should yield a fairly durable (washable) biopolymer. Saturated chitosan hydrochloride in acetone could be injected into a concentrated aqueous sodium alginate solution and harden up almost immediately. Because of the heavy "cross-linking", I don't think it could be drawn much, but using a sufficiently small orifice it could likely be drawn over a single mandrel then dried with a hair dryer or heat gun before spooling.
10:25 are they edible though, just making sure
Ohhh my god as a crocheter I am so in love with this... Have you thought about turning the leeched pigment into a dye for a finished spool of chitin yarn (yitin? charn?)
totally down for shrimp sweater merch
9:07 😂 my man
Are you ok mate? Shrimps are obviously used for fabric. What do you think people do with them? Eat them? Gross
I’m it’s gross! Wearing shrimp is the new fashion nowadays people used to be gross 😢
It's kinda cool too that given one of the steps is getting rid of the proteins, that should theoretically make it hypoallergenic to people with shellfish allergies. Least in all meta texts I've skimmed through on the issue when my mom started showing shrimp reactions
3:06 so is this a cooking channel now?
This channel does some of the most interesting experiments on the internet. You guys are criminally under rated!
Oh this is SO cool!! The fiber looks similar to a linen or hemp yarn in texture (I'd love to know if that's an accurate guess) and it has that lovely little bit of luster once woven, like a really nice wool. I'm maybe thinking too big-scale here, but a lightweight, washable fiber made largely from an abundant waste product, AND potential cooling properties; if it's dyeable, this could be huge for phasing out polyester in clothing. I'm very excited to see where the next steps of this experiment lead.
Would this work with Mushroom chitin? I would LOVE to do this with mushroom mycelium
"damn i like these mittens youre wearing, theyre so orange and so shiny, what sre they made of? Cotto--"
"Shrimp"
Damn low key Kill La Kill lore just dropped
2:08 You slipped it in but it is wild how it isn’t a vein, it’s the digestive tract!
Makes me think about a method of manufacturing that would spray the liquified chitosan onto a mold let it set and spray again to build up a significant layer then trim excess to size
CVD-esque mist deposition
I imagine that would work, although shrimp mist might get easily clogged.
Maybe pouring it like molding chocolate and dumping out/trimming the excess?
@@leflavius_nl5370chemical droplet deposition
the fact that it shimmers too is just beautiful. i have thermoregulatory issues so i would genuinely love a golden shrip sweater if it works
If the resident biological engineer says shrimps is bugs then shirmps is indeed bugs
If bugs is arthropods (things with exoskeletons and segmented legs), shrimps is bugs.
If bugs is hemiptera ("true bugs". arthropods with 6 legs, sucky mouthparts, and which don't go through metamorphosis), shrimps is not bugs.
@@nathangamble125I guess then the question would be do we consider centipedes bugs or not? Because of a centipede is a bug then a shrimp is a bug
@@the_undead nope, a centipede is considered a crustacean (nvm i remembered incorrectly please ignore this)
@@cramb1dyou can edit it to be right.
@@nathangamble125 people usually use this distinction for insects, and then argue about whether being terrestrial matters, with "bugs" being essentially any exoskeletal creature.
2:02 missed oppertunity to say "shrimple"
HE'S SHRIMPLY BALLIN
Your videos make me feel things. Both my therapist and myself don't know what those things are but they make me feel things
Does that hurt the shrimp 2:14
Lol
No
That's just air escaping
9:00 Nooooooo!!! I feel betrayed 😣😣😣 please continue with the shrimp mixture!! come on ! ! !
By Minute 3:00 you have created an ungodly nightmare, an amallgamation of multiple shrimp meat blended and fused togehter in a way where not even the origin is recognizable anymore.
This is really interesting. Shrimp suit that cools your off under the sun sounds really good.
I love how this whole video was like "Yeah we're gonna use shrimp. Actually we're gonna use crayfish. Remember the chitosan we've been trying to make? Yeah we're gonna use store-bought. Remember the machine we were gonna use to spin the fibers? Yeah we're doing that by hand now."
I was just left thinking that if they are gonna make another video when they work out the process, what is the point of making THIS video? Should've just waited until they actually do what they say in the title.
@@SlaaneshChampionMako Smells like a failed experiment that he thought he could salvage.
He couldn't salvage it.
This is so cool! As an environment conscious fiber crafter it makes me happy to learn about new fiber sources for making stuff! But what really made it was that Black Books still of the traumatised child at the end. Classic.
Nobody ever asks these questions. How do you keep doing it?
He holds children hostage for the ideas
Love that final golden color also didnt expect this to tie into what Ben was doing with his sky cooling fabric.
6:35 AHH NO PLEASE CRAWFISH ITS CRAW, NOT CRAY
Depends on region. Crayfish is also used.
In Louisiana and the rest of the south, they use both, depending on the region.
Yes! So glad you're aware of the thermo-fabric project. Your milk puller was all I was thinking of when he was pulling strands with that rake by hand 😅
Finally some good news today. Even if politics are disappointing, i know science will always have my back.
That is so cool. Now i want to wear a shrim shirt with shrimp motives. Damn
3:27, 13:22 not the ai generated images... :c
The cooling fabric could be lifesaving. Very interested in seeing more development in this
Kaladin is quaking
I LOVE THE STORMLIGHT ARCHIVE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
This is fascinating! I have worked with yarn that contains chitosan, but never really given a lot of thought as to how the fiber was made.
One potential drawback worth noting is that some people who have allergies to shellfish CAN react to the chitosan fiber.
Okay forget the sweater, if this can become a biodegradable netting material, this potentially eliminates a major source of ocean plastic
This is what moves humanity forward. People justing questions like "can we turn shrimp to sheets"😂😂
What did the shrimp do to you!? XD
Exist
They know what they did......
They existed in extremely large quantities in an easy to farm way
I mostly only know things about spinning wool, but would results be better if you broke it down a bit and then carted it? I truly have no clue but I remember that being a thing you could do to weave nylon
@3:27 did you actually dress a tiny mannequin in pasta or is it AI generated? can't tell :D
Bro is the chaotic evil version of nilered 🔥🔥🔥
These are always so off the wall and I love them.
Same
the image of seeing a real stillsuit was so alluring the way you described it that you earned my subscription right there
Shrimp made bondage rope when ?
WHAAAAT
@@Portallity Dont judge 🙄
@@AlexW- I’m not I’m just saying where can I get one?
i'm a crocheter so i like seeing the different things turned into yarn
Anyone with a garment made of that would truly be....
one in a krillion.
i feel like you're building up skills and gathering materials for some kind of super villain scheme
This is extremely cool! I would love to knit with shrimp yarn. Good luck refining the process.
I usually don't comment on videos, but I work in a lab where we produce chitosan and I can assure you guys, chitosan is the answer for everything!
Learning about the sky cooling fabric even existing is something that has me drooling as someone who's very heat intolerant from chronic illness. If the whole sky cooling fabric thing becomes a success it could genuinely be extremely helpful for people with various illnesses and disabilities
A company called swtc used to make a yarn called tofutsies that had 2.5% chitin content. I have worked with it once and it was really strong, and marketed to have antimicrobial properties. In case thats helpful!
Can't wait to see what you do with this! Great video as always
You're telling me a shrimp knit this yarn?
Holy crap, this channel is evolving rapid