SEAL RAW MDF EDGES FAST \\ Top 3 Methods \\ Best On Youtube? \\ Vid#91

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  • BONJOUR!
    In this video I am showing you the 3 BEST METHODS I know to seal an MDF edge without using any type of MDF sealer or wood sealer
    Im even going so far as to say probaly the best youll find on youtube
    All of them a talked about in depth, with a demonstation & my feedback right at the end .
    All my methods are bullet proof, tried & tested & confident to say you probably wont find many better ways to treat an MDF edge ready for priming, especially at these speeds & quality!
    Ryan
    I have videos of the Stacking method and the Virutex method.
    To watch these look for my playlist called "Treating Mdf Edges"
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  • @user-fu5mx7qs5i
    @user-fu5mx7qs5i 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Banding ends up looking really cheap and betrays the material you are using. Best way, spray the edges first before you start which fills the fiber and stiffens it. THEN sand. For a really good finish seal again, get any remaining fibers that were left exposed raw by the first sanding, sand again and you are ready for a mirror finish paint job.

  • @am11744
    @am11744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Morrell's MDF sealer , it needs to be used in a well ventilated area but dries in about 20 minutes and the smell goes after sanding. It makes the edge as hard as the face and is much quicker than filling.

  • @steve.-007
    @steve.-007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good methods👍, I use the sanding method but go down to 600 wet and dry discs on my random orbit. Brings the edges up as smooth as the surface and even on crappy B and Q or Wickes mdf👍

  • @theofarmmanager267
    @theofarmmanager267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You are the ones using MDF all day, every day. I work mostly in hardwoods but in fitting out a barn conversion, I’m using a lot of MDF. My first imperative is to buy decent MDF: I use only Medite MRMDF or Finsa. With these, there is no fluff and the edges are as good as the faces. It’s more expensive per sheet but it’s worth that to me. Occasionally, I use the fluffy stuff for a one-use jog and it’s dreadful by comparison. So, I end up with nice smooth edges but I will get some saw burn marks particularly when starting off a large sheet because my rate of push through the blade is uneven and the awkwardness of keeping the sheet tight against the fence. I invested in a table saw sanding disc from Mike Farrington (on YT) and it’s great. After cutting all my strips to perhaps 1mm (no more) wider than needed, I take out the cutting blade, put in the sanding disc checking for 90 degrees as one of the necessities of the disc is that it’s tapered (you just tilt the blade by 2 degrees to get vertical) and run everything through. That does improve the edge plus gets rid of any saw burn marks. I am using Leyland MDF primer but that might well be something that I don’t need on the high quality MDF.
    If you’re using MDF day in and day out, there is a calculation between the extra cost of Medite or Finsa compared to the cost of the one of the 3 edge methods shown here. It could be that it’s cheaper as a total to use fluff - that’s not really the major consideration for me as I just don’t use enough MDF over the longer term.

    • @samrix5793
      @samrix5793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Detailed reply I've seen that sanding disk for the table saw and wondered how effective it was

    • @theofarmmanager267
      @theofarmmanager267 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@samrix5793 thsnks for that. It’s obviously for finishing and so I’m careful not to take more than 1mm or so off at any one pass. I bought it with several different grits but I don’t think the grit matters too much - 80 or 120. It’s not economical to buy replacements from MF but they are standard round sticky backed sandpaper discs with the centre hole cut out. The arbor on my table saw is short (as it is generally with UK saws) and because the aluminium sanding discs is quite thick towards the centre, I could not use the washer (10mm?) that I use for normal blades; easy enough to buy a 30mm washer at 6mm thick and that gives me enough thread to put the nut on. You do have to have a different inset plate to allow for the thicker disc and may have to remove the riving knife for the operations - none of that is an issue for me. If you do get one and have any issues, then send a message and I’ll see if I know anything about it.

  • @fr3d1974
    @fr3d1974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use the morrells sealer but my main go to is shellac . Paint or roll on 30 minutes later sand and it’s ready to paint

  • @Dickymint1000
    @Dickymint1000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video Ryan. Glad to see you're over COVID. Got it at the mo and feel rough.
    Meant to ask - when are you doing a review of the Bang Good euro hinge jig? Bought one but everything in storage at the moment as moving house.
    COVID + house move = ******* life!

    • @thelondoncraftsmanworkshop
      @thelondoncraftsmanworkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Richard! It's not nice is it? I wasn't too bad with it to be honest!
      Good question! I have tons of the Banggood gear to review and I am itching to use the hinge jig!
      I also have the drill attachment thing that turns your drill into a pillar drill.
      Maybe in the next couple of weeks or if I get stuck for next weeks vid maybe then 😁

  • @mananddog9884
    @mananddog9884 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you use the edging tool is your creating a corner filler etc? And want to seal the edge flush with the end filler panel?

  • @lukegadd3209
    @lukegadd3209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Ryan, awesome and informative videos as always, you are my go to tutor. I am in the process of planning my built-in wardrobes to 3 bedrooms and I have been doing a bit of research on various ways of finishing Mdf and wondered what your thoughts were on vinyl wrapping the doors etc? Have you ever tried and tested this method?
    Was also hoping to get some info on construction of draws etc. Are there any videos on this specifically?
    Thanks

    • @thelondoncraftsmanworkshop
      @thelondoncraftsmanworkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi luke thank you 👍
      I have never tried vinyl wrapping but I know companies out there do it, not cheap!
      I don't think I'd ever attempt it.
      I do have a video on making drawers called make these drawer boxes ..... Ep#51
      I use this quire ofter tbh 👍👍

  • @benthere8406
    @benthere8406 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! I saw you comment on someone that you just do these methods for the visible edges, do you leave the other edges just as is?

  • @otototo6621
    @otototo6621 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are few options that i can suggest for everyone that it's reading this.
    I have tried every method that I've heard of ,but the best results without expensive sealer i had, is definitely with nitro base enamel (clear or mat)
    First the most important thing is good prepared edge, you need edge without cutting marks so you need to sand those imperfections.
    If you have deep marks ,sand it with 120 grit paper ,than proced to 240 grit .
    Nitro enamel you can apply with brush or roller and even with hlpv cheap gun,i personally prefer brush . Apply one coat than wait for 10 to 15 minutes.
    When its completely dry ,sand down the edge with 400 grit paper .You will have a great result with this method .
    If you see small holes or any other imperfections,apply one more coat of nitro enamel . After it got dry ,sand again with 400 grit.
    If you need any other help , I'm more than willing to help,contact me .
    Stay strong as a community,stay strong as a woodworking family .💪

  • @yngndrw.
    @yngndrw. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a really useful video. What technique would you use for an edge which has a larger round-over, or a handleless drawer with a finger pull?

    • @thelondoncraftsmanworkshop
      @thelondoncraftsmanworkshop  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess hand fill and sand the parts with a large round over and possibly the same for the finger pull.

    • @yngndrw.
      @yngndrw. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop I thought that might be the only way but was hoping there'd be a sneaky trick for edges like that. Thank you.

  • @davidndahura7437
    @davidndahura7437 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video what is the name and model of that edging machine very wonderful machine, I have liked it thank you.

  • @zidmod007
    @zidmod007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Ryan
    Would appreciate some help;
    I purchased the paintable edging you linked in the video.
    Done 3 coats of eggshell and it looks nice but by just by coincidence I noticed if i use my nail and pick on the paint it comes away and the white can be seen.
    Is this something you have come across ?
    Just concerned overtime the paint is just going to come off ?
    I didn’t use any primer as I didn’t think it was needed?

    • @thelondoncraftsmanworkshop
      @thelondoncraftsmanworkshop  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi I've never had that problem I'm afraid using my technique. It's always really soild

    • @zidmod007
      @zidmod007 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop could it be the paint ? Using water based acrylic???

  • @chrisb4009
    @chrisb4009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My concern with iron on edging is that it will chip off over time.

  • @TikTok-il9hx
    @TikTok-il9hx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any tips on how to keep the edge nice and square using method 2?

    • @samrix5793
      @samrix5793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have several boards stacked together it gives enough of a reference surface

  • @stuarthawthorne87
    @stuarthawthorne87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When you use method one with filler in a stack do they not stick together or crack edges when finished and taking apart again. Thanks

    • @thelondoncraftsmanworkshop
      @thelondoncraftsmanworkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi, nope😁.
      Well, very slightly but hardly anything. Taking the arris off sorts it out, especially when using the 1.6mm radius round over cutter 👍👍

  • @Z-add
    @Z-add ปีที่แล้ว

    another youtuber has shown to use 1000 grit on the mdf edge. what is your take on it?

    • @thelondoncraftsmanworkshop
      @thelondoncraftsmanworkshop  ปีที่แล้ว

      A little bit over kill in my eyes and not needed. Polishing the edges up with 320 is more than enough for me 👍

  • @Dufffaaa93
    @Dufffaaa93 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not make carcass out of melamine faced mdf (or any other prefinished material)? Why do you bother with all of this?

    • @thelondoncraftsmanworkshop
      @thelondoncraftsmanworkshop  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Because melamine is horrible and tacky and I wouldn't sell that to my customers, they may aswell go to ikea