Was kinda hoping to see more performance specs for the motor, as well as what exactly the AI was optimizing. The high surface area appears to optimize heat dissipation
Heat emitted by a motor is an indicator of inefficient operation. It's energy being wasted as heat instead of mechanical force. If you have to seriously cool a motor, the real problem is that is wasting energy as heat. Gas and diesel engines are great examples. A whole elaborate cooling system is required just to deal with waste heat. The energy spent making that heat is energy not spent doing whatever the engine is supposed to do.
KEKW premature e-declaration! It is wild to see a human behind this one, or maybe not. This has the look and feel of a ai generated video. Maybe it has just advanced that far. And we are proof it works.
You look at that, and that's your takeaway? Think about complex engineering building on a molecule / nano level and efficiency levels. Everything is about to change in such a fast way.
For future viewers, I used AI to summarize the script and answer the question your video title poses: "Conclusion; While computational engineering and 3D printing offer limitless possibilities, the new motor designs remain prototypes with many unanswered questions. The viability of AI-designed motors for future production depends on further testing and overcoming current challenges."
Perhaps if we offered the AI prizes for the most successful designs. The trick will be to load our AI systems with a lot of artificial ego and an unquenchable thirst for competition. ;)
thank you geez this video is hella misleading and irritating when people think they are coming across as revolutionary but in reality it never even reached R&R.
And very quickly the current parts we live with, as well as everything we consider as just normal modern-day conveniences will quickly change in aesthetic, efficiency and function. Everything we are so used to now a days will become the new retro, treated like the equivalent of what steampunk is now a days. A novelty or fantasy setting of sorts. Where a normal V8 engine and normal shaped headlights are a legitimate equivalent of a steam engine with funky copper tubes sticking out of them in fantasy. What a time It will be when a smartwatch is a relic and televisions are only in memories because we all wear solar powered ai driven spatial mapping augmented reality smart glasses. Point being, this year we are currently living in. with the technology we currently have and are so accustomed to will seem more and more technologically archaic even more rapidly than we can possibly imagine. at the rate we're going the world will not only look different aesthetically but it will also function differently under the hood of society norms and that's both awe inspiring and terrifying all at once, I already don't know how to write C+++ nearly as well as I sue to, What in the heck am I going to do when they add 7 more plusses in just as many years 😂
@@taythree5549 Meanwhile, 650+ million people are living under extreme poverty and we are on the verge of WWIII. Guess the world fuel is really just dreams, til the nap is over...
In high tech they already are for a long time (decades), its not issue of engineers imagination or skill its an issue of manufacturing. In aerospace where its profitable to use expensive manufacturing methods you have crazy complicated and state of the art designs. In cheaper industries parts have to be made out of simple blocks that can be mass made with easier and more economical methods ( molding, stamping, etc. ), those impose a lot of limits on shapes and materials.
I believe the copper windings will not work very well if 3D printed. Any microscopic "hole" will lessen the magnetic field or cause stray eddy current causing problems with power. A regular copper wire is going to be hard to beat.
True, but that can be solved with some sanding and polishing post-print. I'm more bothered by those sharp angles in some parts of the design, fields should be treated as fluid and fluid doesn't like sharp angles.
@@JenkoRun internal holes can't be fixed by sanding though. 3D prints have holes inside them all the time, a part of why it's never a good idea to use 3D prints for things in contact with food. Germs will find their way inside and make it super unsanitary
@@JenkoRun Nnnnope. It's not about the internal shape, but the volume of the printed "wire". What you're describing would be like trying to remove air holes from bread by cutting off the crust.
3d printing is by far the most expensive manufacturing process on earth and will be for basically decades to come if not forever. Machining is far simpler and quicker for majority of applications and simplicity always wins for cost and speed.
@@dodgygoose3054it is not the future of all manufacturing, only select fields. The tech is so much more complex, expensive and slow compared to conventional machining that it will remain a comparatively small manufacturing method until major breakthroughs are made that can make machines cheaper and faster (I'm talking industrial machines doing SLS metal and PBF polymer) I'd love 3d printing to be the be all end all but realistically it won't.
There was a evolutionary engineering researcher some time ago who used software to "breed" a beam for the International Space Station as a design exercise. This is where the software applies what amounts to genetic breeding of parts to come up with a design that fits the requirements. The beam the computer created looked like a giant leg bone. These generative and evolutionary design methods are going to create some great stuff - that looks really, really weird.
Exciting to watch this technology progress. The ability to systematically integrate elements at the molecular level feels like a game-changer. Eager to see what new ideas this unlocks
Amazingly I was only thinking about 3d printed copper coils for motors just last night. However the big problem was how to insulate it. the insulation must be super thin and withstand high temperatures with minimal plasticity (flowing under heat and or pressure). Enamel is the coating of choice but I can see that mixing copper powders and enamel powders would not work as the same layer of a print must contain both and the enamel must be very thin.
True for small motors, but high power motors use large solid hairpins and very few turns so insulation thickness becomes less significant. Also the coils can support themselves so the space between them can be potted with channels for coolant. Would be difficult to 3d print a small FPV motor using this technique though.
Great video man, thanks for updating on the new tech, really appreciate it!!!! ❤. Keep up the great work and keep informing us of the latest tech in 3D printing! ..... One day we civilians will gain access to 3D nano-print full interstellar craft with integrated neural networks in the hull!!! (SRV indicates this is current utilized tech already in possession by US Military contractors - I WANT IT too!) 😊
@@vitalyl1327 Thats because they are AI. Just a simple type of AI. AI just refers to ANY artificial intelligence, from very simple programs to far more complex models. Generally when people hear "AI" though, they tend to think of either modern cutting edge AI such as Neural Networks, especially LLMs, or other generative AI. Or they hear AI and think of AGI which doesnt even exist yet. But AI has historically been used to refer to basically any program that can make decisions or solve problems. Even really simple stuff. For example, an enemy in a video game that only walks back and forth still has an "AI" controlling it, even if its basically just a single line or two of code controlling it's behavior. So it just depends on what you mean. Calling any computer algorithm AI though is more accurate though with what the term originally meant, and how it was originally used. Its only really in modern times with advancements in AI with stuff like Neural Networks that people's ideas of what constitute an "AI" have really changed.
@@eragon78 ML is not an AI. Never in the AI history "any alhorithm" was branded as AI. Decades ago I worked on the pre-winter AI (expert systems and knowledge bases), and even then the scope of what AI is was very clearly defined.
@@vitalyl1327 This is objectively wrong. AI has been used to refer to simple algorithms for decades. There is a reason in video games for example, you usually call the CPUs "AI", even though theyre often only simple decision trees. AI is just any "artificial" code that makes choices. And the term has been around for decades, long before "modern" AI existed. This isnt new. There are plenty of old sources referring to that kinda stuff as "AI", both in professional and casual context. Also, Machine Learning is more than a simple algorithm. Neural networks arent "an algorithm". I mean technically they are, but so is virtually everything in reality. But the point is there is a pretty big distinction between "just" an algorithm, and machine learning. Machine learning is far more capable than a normal algorithm, because it can be fine tuned for complex to explain tasks. And yes, the standard industry calls Marching Learning "AI". My friend literally works for a company that helps train AI as a software dev, and they call it AI. Her job is literally to review code that various LLMs produce and correct errors to help train them. And I dont even get the objection to calling all this stuff AI anyways. The name is pretty self explanatory. Any "artificial intelligence" classifies. if it has any intelligence whatsoever, which is the ability to make any sort of decisions, even as simple as a decision tree, then its AI. It doesnt have to be self aware or hyper intelligent or anything, it just needs to be capable of making decisions of any kind. Again, my guess is you are likely making the common misconception that AI must refer to AGI, which is an entirely different thing. AGI is far more intelligent than basic AI, and has far stricter criteria, which is also why it doesnt exist yet. But the stuff we have now, is absolutely AI, from simple decision trees and algorithms, to Machine learning. And its been called that for decades, pretty much as soon as computers could do any tasks, people have been calling it AI, even back when they were pretty simple.
@@eragon78 Mind citing a single source corroborating your memory? I was around before the second winter, and I can swear nobody ever called any random algorithm an "AI". Nobody really cares about a weird puny argot of the game developers, they are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. You won't find a paper that'd use such terminology.
This is mostly clickbait. The axial flux motor used by Koenigsegg is based upon a license from a British company that has now been bought by Mercedes. I am converting a 1970 Lotus Europa into an EV using a similar but much smaller axial from motor. The electric motor weighs just 22 lbs and replaces a Renault engine and accessories that weigh 246 lbs! Oh, and it produces around 40% more torque, with maximum torque at just above zero rpm, as well as over 60% higher bhp. It would be easy to install a larger motor, but it's driving through the Renault transmission to keep the suspension the same, and I'm concerned too much torque will snap the input shaft like a carrot. BTW, a popular conventional radial flux motor with similar performance specifications weighs 120lbs! My current (pun intended) calculations indicate the vehicle will weigh no more than it did when it left the factory in Britain.
You are correct about cost/weight equation, the permanent magnet gives you low torque end yet it trades efficiency at high end. The SynRM is a compromise between the two but rare earth metals are still involved. I was trying to lead to 3d flux induction motor without expensive magnets but it's more of a probability of reducing cost, the question is whether it can solve the riddle of low starting torque. I think we should be open to alternative manufacturing techniques which can lead to that.
Awesome project you're working on! I'm currently working on a start-up company that produces conversion-kits to make it easier for people to swap their ICE with an electric motor. Which electric motor did you use for your project?
Permanent rare earth magnets are a high cost but Niron (Nitrogen-Iron) permanent magnets could reduce the cost below that of induction motors. These new magnets are stronger, cheaper, and have a higher heat tolerance than Neodymium rare earth magnets while also being environmentally friendly.
The AI isn't deciding the best performance design, it's deciding the best structural design for the least amount of material needed to maintain a target strength, but also doesn't really take into account complex factors like temperature differences, wear and tear, material stress fracturing, etc. So no, all this AI designing stuff isn't what people think it is.
I find it funny how people don't understand AI at all and so assign it a godlike status when a simple algorithm would provide far greater and completely controllable results near instantly compared to the AI.
It's pretty clear that even the somewhat limited A.I. that currently exists has the potential of discovering solutions that surpass the "simple" algorithms you describe. The entire lure of A.I. is that it could possibly discover solutions beyond those that even exceptional human intelligence would or could not.
fascinating development.. i got lost right after "open source"... which was about two seconds in.. but, as a new sub, I claim my right to keep grinding! and trying to understand.
really interesting video, intriguing ideas about 3D printing induction coils of odd shapes and dense design. enjoyed your illustrative graphics, nice job.
2:48 it’s quite interesting with the magnetic fields created; we haven’t explored more than the tip of an icebox yet.. I mean just the water resonance field will make water robots with Ai resonance etc
13k likes for a video that with chaotic content planning and fancy words but nothing truly meaningful shown? Are you all happy with 6:02 wasted from your life? What a time we live in! I'm blocking this channel just in case it ever shows up in my feeds.
The ability of a motor to be repaired has value. The ability of a motor to be made with less weight and greater efficiency also has value. Which feature has greater value depends on the application.
Yes, but what gets repaired these days anymore. Almost nothing does. It either is within warranty and the buyer gets a new product, or maybe a new part if it is something big like a washing machine. But I have never seen small things like electric toothbrushes get repaired. They get replaced. In such a world, I think the best thing is to produce everything completely recyclable. If this motor actually works (and even works better, otherwise what was the point), it might be well recycable by crushing and grinding it back to dust again. Maybe separate the different metals magnetically or some other way. Nature seldom repairs things. Some creatures grow a new leg, but most die but their offspring live. Trees shed literal tons of leaves and dead branches, but all natural waste is decomposed back to elements or simple molecules which then are absorbed into plants again, which get eaten by deer, which get eaten by wolves, for example. So instead of producing unrecyclable things because they are combinations of plastics, metals and glass glued together like your phone, industry should switch to a production process that is designed to be able to disassemble products back to single materials: plastic, metal and glass separated. And each product has 20% included recycle deposit that you get back when you hand it in, plus a 5% non-refundable surplus that pays for the recycling. So products would cost 25% more, maybe not even that, and it would be something temporary because everyone gets used to it like everyone gets used to inflation. Then it does not matter that much if a motor like this cannot be repaired, because it could be recycled 100% and you get a new one printed for you. So no, you would not be able to repair the motor because it is just a part, but you would be able to repair your washing machine or your car much more easily, because it would have been designed to be easily taken apart for recycling. I think this is the model the whole planet needs to transition to, because we either run out of raw materials, or we run out of livable planet, whichever comes first.
@@bpj1805 Then you would need a material that could stand the heat of melting, and be removeable. Shit concrete wouldn't work. High temps ruin it. What if you heated up the copper right to the edge of melting and hit it with sonics? Is there a sweet spot that would result in crystallization without deformity?
@@grndzro777 3D printable ceramics that can handle copper's melting point are a dime a dozen. it doesn't have to be Portland cement (a particularly bad choice for commercial manufacturing, for multiple reasons).
@@grndzro777 Shake it out, dissolve it, or just leave it. There are so many 3D-printable ceramics I'm confident you'll find at least one that can support each method.
Somehow this sounds a bit like a pastiche of AI cleaned up narration but the topic is very interesting and leads to more efficiencies. I am amazed; we have a 75 HP DC mortor weighs over 1000 lb. Here he cites 800 HP weighing only 86 lb. Amazing.
I'm not an engineer, I watched this because I thought I might learn something. I did, and actually understood the concept of the problems this brings. But also the excitement that can come from this new era of Ai and 3D printing.
I am just subscribing. In the future try to avoid capitalizing words in your titles - your vids are legit, but many cheesy channels use hyperbolic capitalized words in their titles. This video was very good however! Keep up the good work!
I am excited to see the designs of solid coils and possible future liquid coil technologies. We are advancing back into the systems of ancient India and the Vedic technologies.
So yes, nano scale exotic designs will be if not already valid. Especially if they are coalesced or fuse together to be strong, then solid parts. This solves so many robot issues. If we think about it and with AGI already out but not out to the public, we'll then it will be upward at an incredibly fast pace. This is a powerful game changer for upward mobility. Why is all this happening? Thunk about it.
Thanks you so much for helping us see different tech and explaining it. Knowledge, Power, and a good feeling of satisfaction. TY again and best wishes Op TechPlanet
Maybe the printed coils can be soldered or plated in silver to fill any micro gaps. Lowering the resistance. And having the coils hollow to allow cooling, this could be awesome for performance. Maybe a silver and / or gold plated coil or possibly a alloy of copper and silver to improve tfe conduction, or use the prints to cast the coil in copper. Use something that can handle the heat to keep the coolant passages in the coil open, then uses a mild acid to break it down to clear the passages. Then possibly electroplate in silver ir gold and enamel insulation. Very interesting if nothing else! 🤔✌️
Oh and since we have a 3D printer (pretty basic one) in our institute this thing is basically working 24/7 because it's that easy to get practical usable parts from it (Adapters, frames, lids, boxes etc.). Recycling and printing stuff on the fly is the future. Its a production on demand to avoid excessive overhead production that gets thrown away in the worst case.
It's not here yet, but it's coming. Fast. LLMs change literally everything humans have been doing for a very very long time. The question now is what we can trust. It's exciting. and scary. And fascinating. and potentially devastating. But if we get it right, it's a new Renaissance. And if we get it wrong, we're probably toast. And most people are asking... what's good on Netflix right now? Oh humans. Good video.
Reminds me of Bob Lazer's statement about the "Sports Cars" flying saucer he said he saw at the offshoot of Area 51. He said it was all one solid piece, with no seams. We are getting there...
Fascinating and very informative. My take is that schools of engineering will continue to push the boundaries of what's possible and functional with consideration of cost to produce and mass production. Some applications do not require mass production which allows a more closely managed forging process, however it is very interesting to see new age designs breaking free from traditional induction/magnet core, very impressive technology all in all. Mind-blowing. My question could multi layered 3D printed coils withstand heat and temperature thresholds, didn't notice any mention of heat or temperature just curious to know your thoughts. Great videos. Hard to follow watched it a few times lol
Even though there isn’t much substance here I still very much enjoyed this brief introduction to this. I also found the actual design of the coil and rotors extremely fascinating. The way everything had curved surfaces made it seem more organic to me for some reason. Is this design style arts nouveau. Anything that is in this style always seems psychedelic to me for some reason so maybe it’s more efficient “possibly “ due to its organic fractal design"
what interests me is also how resistent are powder-powder situations to faults (after all, copper dust breaking off the coil could do unfunny shorts, whereas from the body the engine could seize) and how repairable the new wonder-motors will be ... AI-aided processes often produce "awesome but impractical" or "one-off" kind of designs.
It was “game over?” Is it game over? Think of the demand for motors in the future and the efficiency required for battery usage. What would you say? Game over?
Back in 2021 I designed a brushless axial flux motor that was based upon the Lynch motor design, but that would use a 3D printed coil assembly and smc core material. I contacted four leading manufacturers to ascertain the cost of prototype printing, and lets just say that I don't believe that we will see such motors become mainstream. I found I could make a "good enough" motor using traditional manufacturing and assembly techniques for a fraction of the estimated production cost of the fancy 3D printed version. Hell rethink bikes couldn't even make a business out of the binova flow motor which was an excellent product with easy manufacturing process...
Reminds me of a recent discovery that showed a mixture of copper and carbon (graphene form) pressed through a special extrusion process can increase electrical conductivity up to 11%. My idea is to try a lower tech experiment utilizing pure copper melted in a diy furnace/foundry with a form of carbon added (ball milled carbon soot) and then repeated pressing and annealing to create wire on a roller mill. If not successful through testing I may try ball milled carbon fiber as an alternate additive.
Will that engine just spin meaninglessly on a planet without people? It's great that we have a new engine of the future, it's just a shame that we don't have that future.
man so many negative comments. Was the title a little clickbaity? Sure. But the "Game over" is followed by a question mark. Doesn't change the fact this video had some really cool explanations about the potential for new designs based around complex structures using laser based powder fusion printers.
Very, very impressive. 3D printing has already been quite a quantum leap, and now paired up with AI - it's watch this space. I see a deluge of exciting new developments on their way.
Was kinda hoping to see more performance specs for the motor, as well as what exactly the AI was optimizing. The high surface area appears to optimize heat dissipation
Might be able to run coolant through the coils 🤷
Agreed !
Heat emitted by a motor is an indicator of inefficient operation. It's energy being wasted as heat instead of mechanical force. If you have to seriously cool a motor, the real problem is that is wasting energy as heat. Gas and diesel engines are great examples. A whole elaborate cooling system is required just to deal with waste heat. The energy spent making that heat is energy not spent doing whatever the engine is supposed to do.
@@patrickmccullough989If it's really powerful motor it will generate much heat even if it's highly efficient..
@@MegaSuperCritic It's like you do not understand what you read. If it's really powerful motor there will be lots of heat. Full stop.
So what you're saying is I just wasted 6 minutes of my life for nothing thanks.
Yes and youtube disable the dislike button so you can't see that it's bad without wasting the time yourself so they can earn $0.01 off you with an add
Now you know where the research is heading, Something you didn't know before this
I'm glad I found your comment so I didn't have to watch this garbage
Title "Game over" then 10 seconds in "But will this truly be the motor of the future." Suffering from a bit of premature e-declaration.
But clicks.
Homie is discovering clickbait lmfao
KEKW premature e-declaration!
It is wild to see a human behind this one, or maybe not. This has the look and feel of a ai generated video. Maybe it has just advanced that far. And we are proof it works.
Now you are asking the right question.
Clickbait titles is what the down vote button is for.
For those commenting, generative design isn’t a new concept in engineering. It’s cool that it’s being applied to more complex problems!
there isn't a working benchmark, nor a breakdown of parts...this is just a model it created we don't even know it works.
As is it just a standard turbine from the looks of it. It's a step, and a few layers off
yup... clickbait title
Looks cool though
The vast majority of "AI" stuff is outrageously fake
You look at that, and that's your takeaway? Think about complex engineering building on a molecule / nano level and efficiency levels. Everything is about to change in such a fast way.
For future viewers, I used AI to summarize the script and answer the question your video title poses: "Conclusion; While computational engineering and 3D printing offer limitless possibilities, the new motor designs remain prototypes with many unanswered questions. The viability of AI-designed motors for future production depends on further testing and overcoming current challenges."
Perhaps if we offered the AI prizes for the most successful designs. The trick will be to load our AI systems with a lot of artificial ego and an unquenchable thirst for competition. ;)
Using ai for everything is so lazy 🤦🏻♀️
thank you geez this video is hella misleading and irritating when people think they are coming across as revolutionary but in reality it never even reached R&R.
I think there should be a question mark after "GAME OVER" until a motor is actually produced and evaluated.
That is true so I changed the title.
@@Tech_Planet
Thank you.
@@Tech_Planet But the ! comes before the ?. At the current state I believe it should be the other way around.
The "GAME OVER!?" part in title is totally misleading and unnecessary until this tech comes to real life use.
@@IvanZivko oh no the game is very much over. i just lost the game
It's not that superconductors can withstand higher temperatures. It's that they have less resistance which means less heat would be generated.
future machine parts are gonna look like video game artifacts, which is really cool
What about rocket 🚀 parts ? th-cam.com/video/Cms_v_OUXco/w-d-xo.html
And very quickly the current parts we live with, as well as everything we consider as just normal modern-day conveniences will quickly change in aesthetic, efficiency and function. Everything we are so used to now a days will become the new retro, treated like the equivalent of what steampunk is now a days. A novelty or fantasy setting of sorts. Where a normal V8 engine and normal shaped headlights are a legitimate equivalent of a steam engine with funky copper tubes sticking out of them in fantasy. What a time It will be when a smartwatch is a relic and televisions are only in memories because we all wear solar powered ai driven spatial mapping augmented reality smart glasses.
Point being, this year we are currently living in. with the technology we currently have and are so accustomed to will seem more and more technologically archaic even more rapidly than we can possibly imagine. at the rate we're going the world will not only look different aesthetically but it will also function differently under the hood of society norms and that's both awe inspiring and terrifying all at once, I already don't know how to write C+++ nearly as well as I sue to, What in the heck am I going to do when they add 7 more plusses in just as many years 😂
@@taythree5549 Wait til these future kids see my HP Pavilion Monster laptop. They are not ready for the swag. Sadly, it won't turn on anymore...
@@taythree5549 Meanwhile, 650+ million people are living under extreme poverty and we are on the verge of WWIII. Guess the world fuel is really just dreams, til the nap is over...
In high tech they already are for a long time (decades), its not issue of engineers imagination or skill its an issue of manufacturing. In aerospace where its profitable to use expensive manufacturing methods you have crazy complicated and state of the art designs. In cheaper industries parts have to be made out of simple blocks that can be mass made with easier and more economical methods ( molding, stamping, etc. ), those impose a lot of limits on shapes and materials.
WHAT DEVELOPMENTS???? it hasn't even been fucking TESTED¿¡¿
but it looks cool, and AI!
It was tested long before you were born. There is nothing new under the Sun.
I want to see a performance test of this so called AI motor design.
Köszönjük!
GAME OVER - A.I. Designs new HUMANS with 40 mangled fingers
This type of human will be a reality in a near future!!
@@danieljohnson2662 🤣
holy cripes I'm laughing so hard at this!
Frankenstein
Thing that we made is just like us
Thanks for an interesting video!🌞
I believe the copper windings will not work very well if 3D printed. Any microscopic "hole" will lessen the magnetic field or cause stray eddy current causing problems with power. A regular copper wire is going to be hard to beat.
That is very true!
True, but that can be solved with some sanding and polishing post-print. I'm more bothered by those sharp angles in some parts of the design, fields should be treated as fluid and fluid doesn't like sharp angles.
@@JenkoRun internal holes can't be fixed by sanding though. 3D prints have holes inside them all the time, a part of why it's never a good idea to use 3D prints for things in contact with food. Germs will find their way inside and make it super unsanitary
@@kapser2210 The holes run that deep? Well then, printing the copper is definitely a bad idea.
@@JenkoRun Nnnnope. It's not about the internal shape, but the volume of the printed "wire". What you're describing would be like trying to remove air holes from bread by cutting off the crust.
good one - lots of change in this area so keep posting
3d printing is approaching the price of machining with way more to go.
Its still insane for prototyping. I have no doubt we will have whole facilities dedicated to huge printing machines for part production.
It is the future of all manufacturing, we are just at the first steps in a long way to go.
3d printing is by far the most expensive manufacturing process on earth and will be for basically decades to come if not forever. Machining is far simpler and quicker for majority of applications and simplicity always wins for cost and speed.
@@dodgygoose3054it is not the future of all manufacturing, only select fields. The tech is so much more complex, expensive and slow compared to conventional machining that it will remain a comparatively small manufacturing method until major breakthroughs are made that can make machines cheaper and faster (I'm talking industrial machines doing SLS metal and PBF polymer) I'd love 3d printing to be the be all end all but realistically it won't.
@@francoismurrell4604 I got a PCB way account that says otherwise.
Very interesting stuff!! I think it's the start into a new future 😎🤙
❤ Cheers Switzerland
What do you mean by game over? What game? What does that have to do with the motor?
Game over for humanity it’s all downhill from here
Copper wires, probably.
Game over for human designs. AI will do it better.
@@wally7856 i mean the whole purpose of ai is to do things better than we ever could 🤷♂
3D printing is really turning industry and science on its head, it's amazing to see how far it has come in such a relatively short time.
There was a evolutionary engineering researcher some time ago who used software to "breed" a beam for the International Space Station as a design exercise. This is where the software applies what amounts to genetic breeding of parts to come up with a design that fits the requirements. The beam the computer created looked like a giant leg bone. These generative and evolutionary design methods are going to create some great stuff - that looks really, really weird.
No, just the opposite of wierd.
That looks sick…I’m ready for AI. To redesign the future 😎😎😎👍👍👍👍
Now I know why H.R. Giger's designs for Alien movie looked like this...
And Gaudi before. There's a good reason why such designs are natural.
Was working on multi metal PBF about a decade ago. Good to see it's finally starting to gain some traction.
Maybe we’ll finally get a decent turbo encabulator
My retro encabulator is still doing fine and I don't see a need to upgrade... although the dingle arm is showing some wear.
@@irridiastarfire Check the signal fluid level.
@@irridiastarfire What John Galt says.
No mention of capacitive duractance, or sinumodal reluctance. Sidefumbling likely not reduced.
waiting for a decent flux capacitor or oscillation overthruster.
Exciting to watch this technology progress. The ability to systematically integrate elements at the molecular level feels like a game-changer. Eager to see what new ideas this unlocks
3D printing different metals in volume is going to be challenging.
AI will figure it out
never be economical at scale.
Given the low concentration of copper in ore being mined today, we're going to be down to copper dust soon enough. :)
Amazing presentation! This was fun to watch and well put together.
Amazingly I was only thinking about 3d printed copper coils for motors just last night. However the big problem was how to insulate it. the insulation must be super thin and withstand high temperatures with minimal plasticity (flowing under heat and or pressure). Enamel is the coating of choice but I can see that mixing copper powders and enamel powders would not work as the same layer of a print must contain both and the enamel must be very thin.
True for small motors, but high power motors use large solid hairpins and very few turns so insulation thickness becomes less significant.
Also the coils can support themselves so the space between them can be potted with channels for coolant.
Would be difficult to 3d print a small FPV motor using this technique though.
Awesome update. Interesting the direction AI and 3d printing have taken us.
It looks so alien.
I think the same founder of hyperganic(the weird aerospike motor) formed Leap71 (PicoGK).
...like an H.R. Giger project
Im still wondering who engineered those shades.
It is
And require alien physics to work well to :)
Great video man, thanks for updating on the new tech, really appreciate it!!!! ❤. Keep up the great work and keep informing us of the latest tech in 3D printing! ..... One day we civilians will gain access to 3D nano-print full interstellar craft with integrated neural networks in the hull!!! (SRV indicates this is current utilized tech already in possession by US Military contractors - I WANT IT too!) 😊
it is more about 3D printing than a.i.
These days all kinds of optimisation algorithms and even brute force search are called an "AI".
@@vitalyl1327 Thats because they are AI. Just a simple type of AI.
AI just refers to ANY artificial intelligence, from very simple programs to far more complex models. Generally when people hear "AI" though, they tend to think of either modern cutting edge AI such as Neural Networks, especially LLMs, or other generative AI. Or they hear AI and think of AGI which doesnt even exist yet.
But AI has historically been used to refer to basically any program that can make decisions or solve problems. Even really simple stuff. For example, an enemy in a video game that only walks back and forth still has an "AI" controlling it, even if its basically just a single line or two of code controlling it's behavior.
So it just depends on what you mean. Calling any computer algorithm AI though is more accurate though with what the term originally meant, and how it was originally used. Its only really in modern times with advancements in AI with stuff like Neural Networks that people's ideas of what constitute an "AI" have really changed.
@@eragon78 ML is not an AI. Never in the AI history "any alhorithm" was branded as AI. Decades ago I worked on the pre-winter AI (expert systems and knowledge bases), and even then the scope of what AI is was very clearly defined.
@@vitalyl1327 This is objectively wrong. AI has been used to refer to simple algorithms for decades. There is a reason in video games for example, you usually call the CPUs "AI", even though theyre often only simple decision trees.
AI is just any "artificial" code that makes choices. And the term has been around for decades, long before "modern" AI existed. This isnt new. There are plenty of old sources referring to that kinda stuff as "AI", both in professional and casual context.
Also, Machine Learning is more than a simple algorithm. Neural networks arent "an algorithm". I mean technically they are, but so is virtually everything in reality. But the point is there is a pretty big distinction between "just" an algorithm, and machine learning. Machine learning is far more capable than a normal algorithm, because it can be fine tuned for complex to explain tasks.
And yes, the standard industry calls Marching Learning "AI". My friend literally works for a company that helps train AI as a software dev, and they call it AI. Her job is literally to review code that various LLMs produce and correct errors to help train them.
And I dont even get the objection to calling all this stuff AI anyways. The name is pretty self explanatory. Any "artificial intelligence" classifies. if it has any intelligence whatsoever, which is the ability to make any sort of decisions, even as simple as a decision tree, then its AI. It doesnt have to be self aware or hyper intelligent or anything, it just needs to be capable of making decisions of any kind.
Again, my guess is you are likely making the common misconception that AI must refer to AGI, which is an entirely different thing. AGI is far more intelligent than basic AI, and has far stricter criteria, which is also why it doesnt exist yet. But the stuff we have now, is absolutely AI, from simple decision trees and algorithms, to Machine learning. And its been called that for decades, pretty much as soon as computers could do any tasks, people have been calling it AI, even back when they were pretty simple.
@@eragon78 Mind citing a single source corroborating your memory? I was around before the second winter, and I can swear nobody ever called any random algorithm an "AI". Nobody really cares about a weird puny argot of the game developers, they are irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. You won't find a paper that'd use such terminology.
i acttualy liked the video, but the "game over" clickbait is 99% an autoskip for me. I'm kinda glad i countered the eyeroll
This is mostly clickbait. The axial flux motor used by Koenigsegg is based upon a license from a British company that has now been bought by Mercedes.
I am converting a 1970 Lotus Europa into an EV using a similar but much smaller axial from motor. The electric motor weighs just 22 lbs and replaces a Renault engine and accessories that weigh 246 lbs! Oh, and it produces around 40% more torque, with maximum torque at just above zero rpm, as well as over 60% higher bhp. It would be easy to install a larger motor, but it's driving through the Renault transmission to keep the suspension the same, and I'm concerned too much torque will snap the input shaft like a carrot.
BTW, a popular conventional radial flux motor with similar performance specifications weighs 120lbs!
My current (pun intended) calculations indicate the vehicle will weigh no more than it did when it left the factory in Britain.
You are correct about cost/weight equation, the permanent magnet gives you low torque end yet it trades efficiency at high end. The SynRM is a compromise between the two but rare earth metals are still involved. I was trying to lead to 3d flux induction motor without expensive magnets but it's more of a probability of reducing cost, the question is whether it can solve the riddle of low starting torque. I think we should be open to alternative manufacturing techniques which can lead to that.
@@Tech_Planet or in other words "game over" lol.
Cool car and project, mate!
+1 for the pun.
Awesome project you're working on! I'm currently working on a start-up company that produces conversion-kits to make it easier for people to swap their ICE with an electric motor. Which electric motor did you use for your project?
Permanent rare earth magnets are a high cost but Niron (Nitrogen-Iron) permanent magnets could reduce the cost below that of induction motors. These new magnets are stronger, cheaper, and have a higher heat tolerance than Neodymium rare earth magnets while also being environmentally friendly.
I really hope at least some of these developments really turn out to be game changers.
The AI isn't deciding the best performance design, it's deciding the best structural design for the least amount of material needed to maintain a target strength, but also doesn't really take into account complex factors like temperature differences, wear and tear, material stress fracturing, etc. So no, all this AI designing stuff isn't what people think it is.
That was a wonderful breakdown. Thank you.
AI hallucinates, so I'm skeptical until I see actual data.
This is simply fantastic. It’s interesting to combine such an engine with Searle’s idea.
5:30 RIP. Never even been tested. It might as well be another free-energy fantasy.
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I wish you only the best, but your clickbaiting makes me block your page. GL in the future :)
super nice video, looking forward for more in this field
Have to solve those printed metal “conductivity issues”…
"I have a new unlimited energy invention idea 💡, but it's only available in my head" 😂 same concept here. Nothing tested = No bragging rights.
I find it funny how people don't understand AI at all and so assign it a godlike status when a simple algorithm would provide far greater and completely controllable results near instantly compared to the AI.
AI IS an algorithm, or series of algorithms.
Are the motors we have now been designed by simple algos recently or decades ago.?
As sex sells, AI as “word” also does. Call it AI and feel important or a part of it.
It's pretty clear that even the somewhat limited A.I. that currently exists has the potential of discovering solutions that surpass the "simple" algorithms you describe. The entire lure of A.I. is that it could possibly discover solutions beyond those that even exceptional human intelligence would or could not.
fascinating development.. i got lost right after "open source"... which was about two seconds in.. but, as a new sub, I claim my right to keep grinding! and trying to understand.
I think this was clickbait.
Everything with a question mark at the end is just clickbait
Awesome. We no longer need engineers. We no longer need artist. We no longer need musicians. We no longer need actors.
That's why the elites want to eliminate 75% of the world population, they don't need us anymore
Can't believe I fell for the click-bait.
Excited to see the output of this new design!
clickbait earns block.
really interesting video, intriguing ideas about 3D printing induction coils of odd shapes and dense design. enjoyed your illustrative graphics, nice job.
and that's how a channel gets a permanent ban on my feed, congratulations.
2:48 it’s quite interesting with the magnetic fields created; we haven’t explored more than the tip of an icebox yet.. I mean just the water resonance field will make water robots with Ai resonance etc
3d models are easy. Show a working prototype(s) and show how they are superior. That ain't so easy.
Remember, AI also draws 3 legged people with 7 fingers on one hand.
13k likes for a video that with chaotic content planning and fancy words but nothing truly meaningful shown? Are you all happy with 6:02 wasted from your life? What a time we live in! I'm blocking this channel just in case it ever shows up in my feeds.
Outstanding video!!
I can repair a traditional motor. This shit goes in the bin.
Sad but true.
well, it can be crushed and grinded back to the metal dust it came from, ready to be recreated.
It gets destructively binned and "recycled" just like container software. Virtualized engineering?
The ability of a motor to be repaired has value. The ability of a motor to be made with less weight and greater efficiency also has value.
Which feature has greater value depends on the application.
Yes, but what gets repaired these days anymore. Almost nothing does.
It either is within warranty and the buyer gets a new product, or maybe a new part if it is something big like a washing machine.
But I have never seen small things like electric toothbrushes get repaired. They get replaced.
In such a world, I think the best thing is to produce everything completely recyclable.
If this motor actually works (and even works better, otherwise what was the point), it might be well recycable by crushing and grinding it back to dust again. Maybe separate the different metals magnetically or some other way.
Nature seldom repairs things. Some creatures grow a new leg, but most die but their offspring live. Trees shed literal tons of leaves and dead branches, but all natural waste is decomposed back to elements or simple molecules which then are absorbed into plants again, which get eaten by deer, which get eaten by wolves, for example.
So instead of producing unrecyclable things because they are combinations of plastics, metals and glass glued together like your phone, industry should switch to a production process that is designed to be able to disassemble products back to single materials: plastic, metal and glass separated. And each product has 20% included recycle deposit that you get back when you hand it in, plus a 5% non-refundable surplus that pays for the recycling. So products would cost 25% more, maybe not even that, and it would be something temporary because everyone gets used to it like everyone gets used to inflation.
Then it does not matter that much if a motor like this cannot be repaired, because it could be recycled 100% and you get a new one printed for you. So no, you would not be able to repair the motor because it is just a part, but you would be able to repair your washing machine or your car much more easily, because it would have been designed to be easily taken apart for recycling.
I think this is the model the whole planet needs to transition to, because we either run out of raw materials, or we run out of livable planet, whichever comes first.
A "gotcha, you clicked" video 😂
why is youtube constantly trying to show me this vid again?
Because youtube "AI" promotes ""AI""
Because it's your favorite video.
Nice! I like 3d printing motors too but this is next level!
what about 3d printing the part, and then using a thin concrete layer to allow it to be melted? Maybe a carbon reinforced concrete.
Might as well just 3D print the mold then cast metal into it.
@@bpj1805 Then you would need a material that could stand the heat of melting, and be removeable. Shit concrete wouldn't work. High temps ruin it.
What if you heated up the copper right to the edge of melting and hit it with sonics? Is there a sweet spot that would result in crystallization without deformity?
@@grndzro777 3D printable ceramics that can handle copper's melting point are a dime a dozen. it doesn't have to be Portland cement (a particularly bad choice for commercial manufacturing, for multiple reasons).
@@bpj1805 How would you remove the ceramic?
@@grndzro777 Shake it out, dissolve it, or just leave it. There are so many 3D-printable ceramics I'm confident you'll find at least one that can support each method.
Somehow this sounds a bit like a pastiche of AI cleaned up narration but the topic is very interesting and leads to more efficiencies.
I am amazed; we have a 75 HP DC mortor weighs over 1000 lb. Here he cites 800 HP weighing only 86 lb. Amazing.
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@Tech Planet good video thank you
I'm not an engineer, I watched this because I thought I might learn something. I did, and actually understood the concept of the problems this brings. But also the excitement that can come from this new era of Ai and 3D printing.
I am just subscribing. In the future try to avoid capitalizing words in your titles - your vids are legit, but many cheesy channels use hyperbolic capitalized words in their titles. This video was very good however! Keep up the good work!
I am excited to see the designs of solid coils and possible future liquid coil technologies. We are advancing back into the systems of ancient India and the Vedic technologies.
So yes, nano scale exotic designs will be if not already valid. Especially if they are coalesced or fuse together to be strong, then solid parts. This solves so many robot issues. If we think about it and with AGI already out but not out to the public, we'll then it will be upward at an incredibly fast pace. This is a powerful game changer for upward mobility. Why is all this happening? Thunk about it.
Sounds like a very cool way to go down the rabbit hole.
Fab! Happy Birthday Eva.
Very nicely done, thank you
Fascinating stuff
Thanks you so much for helping us see different tech and explaining it. Knowledge, Power, and a good feeling of satisfaction. TY again and best wishes Op TechPlanet
Times like these lets me make sure to read the youtube channel after seeing the thumbnail + title
Maybe the printed coils can be soldered or plated in silver to fill any micro gaps. Lowering the resistance. And having the coils hollow to allow cooling, this could be awesome for performance. Maybe a silver and / or gold plated coil or possibly a alloy of copper and silver to improve tfe conduction, or use the prints to cast the coil in copper. Use something that can handle the heat to keep the coolant passages in the coil open, then uses a mild acid to break it down to clear the passages. Then possibly electroplate in silver ir gold and enamel insulation. Very interesting if nothing else! 🤔✌️
Title of the video should be "How to remain stuck with underunity in the age of AI". Cool.
Definitly interesting. Even if it is only feasible for prototyping, this prototypes can give practical data to further analysis and optimizations.
Oh and since we have a 3D printer (pretty basic one) in our institute this thing is basically working 24/7 because it's that easy to get practical usable parts from it (Adapters, frames, lids, boxes etc.). Recycling and printing stuff on the fly is the future. Its a production on demand to avoid excessive overhead production that gets thrown away in the worst case.
It's not here yet, but it's coming. Fast.
LLMs change literally everything humans have been doing for a very very long time. The question now is what we can trust.
It's exciting. and scary. And fascinating. and potentially devastating.
But if we get it right, it's a new Renaissance.
And if we get it wrong, we're probably toast.
And most people are asking... what's good on Netflix right now?
Oh humans.
Good video.
Keep up the Good Work
Reminds me of Bob Lazer's statement about the "Sports Cars" flying saucer he said he saw at the offshoot of Area 51. He said it was all one solid piece, with no seams. We are getting there...
Fascinating and very informative. My take is that schools of engineering will continue to push the boundaries of what's possible and functional with consideration of cost to produce and mass production. Some applications do not require mass production which allows a more closely managed forging process, however it is very interesting to see new age designs breaking free from traditional induction/magnet core, very impressive technology all in all. Mind-blowing.
My question could multi layered 3D printed coils withstand heat and temperature thresholds, didn't notice any mention of heat or temperature just curious to know your thoughts.
Great videos. Hard to follow watched it a few times lol
Even though there isn’t much substance here I still very much enjoyed this brief introduction to this. I also found the actual design of the coil and rotors extremely fascinating. The way everything had curved surfaces made it seem more organic to me for some reason. Is this design style arts nouveau. Anything that is in this style always seems psychedelic to me for some reason so maybe it’s more efficient “possibly “ due to its organic fractal design"
Great job --- very interesting --- Not an engineer --- but you made it understandable --- THANKS
lot of hate in the comments but it's actually pretty informative and not just pure stock footage without saying anything.
what interests me is also how resistent are powder-powder situations to faults (after all, copper dust breaking off the coil could do unfunny shorts, whereas from the body the engine could seize) and how repairable the new wonder-motors will be ... AI-aided processes often produce "awesome but impractical" or "one-off" kind of designs.
Quite impressive for sure, the new design will definitely improve efficiency.
Betteridge's law of headlines is an adage that states: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."
Very interesting!!
Thanks,
+1
It was “game over?”
Is it game over? Think of the demand for motors in the future and the efficiency required for battery usage. What would you say? Game over?
Each day without a shocking/ game over/ game changer/ video moment is a wasted day!
Back in 2021 I designed a brushless axial flux motor that was based upon the Lynch motor design, but that would use a 3D printed coil assembly and smc core material. I contacted four leading manufacturers to ascertain the cost of prototype printing, and lets just say that I don't believe that we will see such motors become mainstream.
I found I could make a "good enough" motor using traditional manufacturing and assembly techniques for a fraction of the estimated production cost of the fancy 3D printed version.
Hell rethink bikes couldn't even make a business out of the binova flow motor which was an excellent product with easy manufacturing process...
Reminds me of a recent discovery that showed a mixture of copper and carbon (graphene form) pressed through a special extrusion process can increase electrical conductivity up to 11%. My idea is to try a lower tech experiment utilizing pure copper melted in a diy furnace/foundry with a form of carbon added (ball milled carbon soot) and then repeated pressing and annealing to create wire on a roller mill. If not successful through testing I may try ball milled carbon fiber as an alternate additive.
Very interesting conceptually. I'd like to see any design work functionally.
Will that engine just spin meaninglessly on a planet without people? It's great that we have a new engine of the future, it's just a shame that we don't have that future.
man so many negative comments. Was the title a little clickbaity? Sure. But the "Game over" is followed by a question mark. Doesn't change the fact this video had some really cool explanations about the potential for new designs based around complex structures using laser based powder fusion printers.
Very, very impressive. 3D printing has already been quite a quantum leap, and now paired up with AI - it's watch this space. I see a deluge of exciting new developments on their way.