Edvard Grieg - Symphony in C-minor, EG 119 (1864)
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- Edvard Grieg
Work: Symphony in C-minor, EG 119 (1864) (Grieg's only completed symphony)
Mov.I: Allegro molto 00:00
Mov.II: Adagio espressivo 12:44
Mov.III: Intermezzo: Allegro energico 20:04
Mov.IV: Finale: Allegro molto vivace 25:10
Orchestra: Malmö Symphony Orchestra
Conductor: Bjarte Engeset - เพลง
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Grieg composed this symphony after being challenged to do so by danish composer Niels Gade during their first meeting. Grieg completed the symphony and presented it to Gade, who was quite impressed. The symphony was performed, (in various selections), 5 times throughout the 1860's, but after Grieg heard the composer Johan Svendsen's symphony in D-Major in 1867, he became embarrassed of his own and wrote on the cover: "Må aldrig opføres" - ("Must never be performed").
It can clearly be seen and heard that Gades own 1 symphoniy strongly influenced Griegs work. The same was the case for Griegs piano sonata in e minor op 7, which was strongly influenced by Gades piano sonata in the same key.
BELLA SINFONIA QUE NO HA TENIDO LA DIVULGACION JUSTA QUE MERECE,BUENO AHORA ES EL MOMENTO EN NOMBRE DE .EDVARD GRIEG....que tiene un espiritu PROMETEICO........ DE CHILE
I have loved Grieg since I was a toddler. He will forever be in my top 10 for symphonic music.
Beautiful. Music. Full. Stop.!! Love Grieg, will always love Grieg.
A Masterpiece from Grieg...
I come from Czech republic and love our composers Bedřich Smetana and Antonín Dvořák and Mahler. But this... is... I don't say better than "our stuff", but VERY VERY touching and powerfull...
Ha-ha, Mahler is Czech composer, you are joking? I know he was born near Jihlava but he has never considered himself as a Czech.
@@y_yur_iocei yes. Austrian Jew.
Poslechněte si " In the hall of the mountain king ". To je nádhera.
Dvorak is the best composer. Greetings from Germany
When studying the original manuscript I noticed that Grieg had written instructions to himself when conducting it. These were just pencil jottings in the last movement and concerned various speeds. About halfway through he wrote 'Faster' and a few pages later 'Still Faster'. These never got into the printed version which is a pity, but the conductor of this recording seems to have observed them. Well done....
Unfortunately Grieg didn't deal with his symphony straight forward enough. Such beautiful music deserves to be more acknowledged. To most of the people even those who are musically educated this masterpiece is fairly unknown.
Edvard Grieg
Symphony in C-minor, EG 119 (1864)
Mov.I: Allegro molto 00:00
Mov.II: Adagio espressivo 12:44
Mov.III: Intermezzo: Allegro energico 20:04
Mov.IV: Finale: Allegro molto vivace 25:10
Orchestra: Malmö Symphony Orchestra
Conductor: Bjarte Engeset
Great work by the young Grieg.
I was invited to visit Bergen many years ago to research a concert of Grieg's music to be given by my Namibia National Symphony and spent a week in the basement of the Bergen library studying the original manuscript of his symphony. The chief librarian told me the story of how it was now allowed to be played. It seems that a Russian professor of music had the same opportunity as I had and spent his time making a photocopy of the score from which he made a new edition of the work to be played in Russia. Since the Russians were now performing it the Norwegians decided to get an official edition prepared for performance. The new edition noted that Grieg's alterations in pencil should be included in the new score, the Russian photocopy had been unable to reproduce them.
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Wow. Something made me jump through everything on my shortcuts, and so Grieg it was! I'm suitably impressed.
Epic masterwork by an epic composer. Edvard Grieg is the eternal Norwegian music master!!!
Grieg never believed in this symphony, and insisted it be shelved forever. It is believed that he didn't want to compete with Johan Svendsen, whom he considered to be a superior symphonist, after he heard Svendsen's Symphony No. 1.
My comments are subjective. Do I like the work. A composer has to have training and talent to create the piece that I will like or not like. I wouldn't have a clue if the formal composition rules are kept or not. Edvard Grieg has long been a composer that I have listened to. I like his work. I like this work.
Great symphony by a great composer!
Muy bella sinfonía de Grieg, lástima tan poco difundida su música, solo se escucha el Peer Gynt Muy buen gusto también por colocar de portada esa obra maravillosa de Turner- Gracias desde la Ciudad de Lanús, Buenos Aires,Argentina
When Grieg after his basic education in Leipzig went to Copenhagen there he met the 26 years older Niels W Gade, who had become the great figure of Danish music. Grieg wanted to impress Gade with some piano pieces, but Gade replied "write a symphony". Grieg did what Gade had told him, and took Gades own 1st symphony i c minor as a pattern for his own work. Gade had been very successful with his first symphony which has the title "På Sjölunds fagre sletter", and Grieg wanted to write something very close to Gades previous work. He also used the same key. Gades symphony can be felt behind Griegs work. With piano sonatas it was similar, one year later. Gade had written one piano sonata, in e minor op. 28. ALso there Grieg wanted to write one by himself closely following Gades example, and therefore the two sonatas, by Gade and by Grieg (op.7) have a good deal of similarities.
I see that I repeated myself. Sorry.
This is a good recording; I'm playing this piece in the symphony I'm a part of. It'll be really helpful for learning the piece! Thanks for uploading it!
Bjarte engeset the great Norwegian conductor.
This sounds like a good symphony to me. Grieg supposedly considered it a student work and did not want it performed, but it seems to me no better or worse than lots of other symphonies. I enjoy the themes and find them appealing, and that is enough for me.
Excellent. Thanks fro uploading
The finale movement has moments that seem to recall Schubert more than Beethoven.
I have listened to the Svendsen Symphony No. 1 in D major, Op. 4 several times and, in my humble opinion, so far from being the better work it is not in the same league as the Grieg symphony!
Yes. It may just because Grieg himself was even more "humble" than many of us.
It is grear work!
A fine symphony, and Grieg knew it. Composed at 20, his first completed orchestral work, its excellent orchestration is thus even more remarkable. Four years later, on hearing his friend J.Svendsen's "scintillating" nationalistic 1st Symphony (comp. at 27), Grieg had already become convinced his own calling was in Norwegian music and regretted having allowed publication of his early (Op. 1 & 2) works from his "vanished Schumann period" - as he also considered this work. Sad. I love it.
Although the C minor symphony does not have the A minor piano concerto's sustained intensity Grieg achieved five years later, I am glad he did not destroy it. While still well within Schumann's orbit, I can hear many glimpses of what Grieg's music would become, and he had already mastered his craft.
+Martin Tousignant A little immature--no surprise there--, but definitely promising; EG should have written more symphonies.
+Juan Jose Morales A little immature, which comes as no surprise, but definitely promising; EG should have written more symphonies.
He had the potential to compose fine symphonies after this basically-student work (and yes, it is a student work), but he went another direction. Nobody is going to compare this favorably to the first symphonies of Beethoven, Schumann, Bruckner, Brahms, Tchaikovsky, Mahler, or Sibelius. Its structure is solid enough, but Grieg's personality isn't fully in it. One would not know who the composer was unless one was told.
There are other composers who would have written interesting symphonies had they gotten around to it. Rossini, Chopin, Puccini, Debussy, Holst, Ravel, Bartok, and Gershwin suggest themselves.
Maybe there is an interesting string quartet and a piano sonata by Mahler from age 20 or so that he chose not to publish... I heard his piano quartet and it sounded much like Debussy, except that it has a distinct flavor of Jewish folk music.
@@pbrower2a1 I 've never thought much of Beethovens 1st......and the Brahms....being designed to impress....is an insincere work. At least THE Grieg is sincere
An absolutely epic symphony.
Que Hermosa!! Complejamente Bellisima!!!
Splendid stuff.
So Beautiful ! Thank you ~
Very very interesting. Thanks.
Composta a 16 anni,scrisse sul manoscritto che ' non sarebbe mai dovuta essere eseguita'.....'
Incredibile, per me è il suo maggiore lavoro orchestrale .
Eg likar det(OK!)Ein groste romantiskke Sjmfoni!
Isn't it the same story with Bizet's 1st Symphony, after he heard Gounod's 1st? And how well known are the symphonies of Svendsen and Gounod today? We just can't expect a creative artist to be able to be objective about their work, which is why we don't have Sibelius' 8th Symphony.
I think it's worse than a lack of objectivity and more of the critic that sits upon the shoulder of each creative artist. For some, it gets bigger and noisier as the years go by. Sibelius is a particular case because his increasing self-criticism coincided with an antagonistic avant-garde in his composing years and his increasing popularity within the English-speaking countries setting up intimidating expectations. So his 8th, or what there was of it, went into his room-heater in Ainola.
It is an insult!!! Constant commercials between movements which even cut into the music
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The comfort of this symphony is off the charts, and far superior splendor
I am immersed in pleasure while listening to this music .
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From Tokyo in the dizzying megalopolis ablaze with neon .
from Los Angeles!
I come from Prague, Czech Republic. Smetana, Dvořák etc. 🙂
I'm listening in the United States, an hour away from New York City.
I live and work in Leuven, Belgium. Got up at 5 this morning to go to work, picking up garbage. It's now past 10 and I'm smoking a cigar while listening to this wonderful music before going to bed.
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I really enjoyed the symphony.When the main theme comes in during the first movement (1.20)... it does remind me of Eric Coates.
Fabulous piece. What's the painting you've paired with it?
Samuel Colman, Storm King on the Hudson, 1866.
preciosa
I'm listening to Greig, whilst writing in Gregg, whilst drinking Greg tea.
You damn Gragg-Head!
Aland Mustafa How very gregarious of you!
What the greg?
Marvelous collection of music I've never heard, here and in the right sidebar selections.
The sidebar is always a treasure trove of neglected classical.
Great
The tempo of the 3rd movement Intermezzo is Allegro energico.
Merveille !! Mais quelqu'un connaît il le nom du tableau et de son auteur ?? Voilà une représentation bien singulière de l'industrie !
아까
무더기 무더기 낙옆밟을때
들었으면 더 좋았을것을~.
음악도
시 와 사진도
특히 그리그의 참 멋있는사진
모두
춥기만 할뻔한 삭막한 밤을
따듯하고 예쁘게 해줍니다
고맙습니다.
I also listen to punk rock.
In the end, I end up returning to classical music?
Could have been a9/10 with such melodic and harmonic beauty but is more theatrical than pure muic
It has tones and the feel of early Nielsen (His symphonies 1 & 2)
06:42 Best best best moment O.O
Yes....very nice passage right there and thereafter. Wonder how Grieg liked Mendelssohn or Gliere?
I always loved this 1st movement, far away of dreamy Peer Gynt
Grieg uses 6:42 the subdominant.It's amazing!!!👍
Reminds me of Richard Wagner.
És una bona simfonia. S’hauria de programar més sovint. It is a good symphony. It should be programed much more often. First and last movement are great.
Lovely work of course, but does anyone know the title and artist of the above painting?
Turner
podría decirme que pintura es la que reproducen!!
Storm King on the Hudson (1866), de Samuel Colman
americanart.si.edu/collections/search/artwork/?id=5183
Gracias...
De William Turner
Grieg's only completed symphony ...
so that means, there's other uncompleted/unfinished symphony ??
I looked it up google - I couldn't find anything, so he probably just outlined little something :( :(
I wish I could listen to just small piece ... but i thing it doesn't exist.
If You know more, please write it down I'll appreciate it
There is no other symphony by Grieg, or they are nicely hidden.
Grieg wrote on the symphony manuscript "never perfomed this piece". He was thinking that he's symphonics works was bad, so he probably never try to written another symphony....His dream was to create a revolutionary opera, like his idol Wagner. For Grieg, nobody can do better symphony than Beethoven, so...he just try once because it was an exercise. (sorry for my bad english)
by the way, I'm agree with you, I would like to hear another Grieg's symphony, even if it's just 10 measures. But I think it's impossible, because, like you said, it doesn't exist
could you not have a go at writing 10 measures yourself of how you think it would go?
Maybe another symphony existed only in fragment or hand written form.
If THIS was anyone's just one finished masterpiece, we were all immortal...
The Second Theme in 1st movement sound like local ballad.It's a neglected piece.
The structure is similar to Robert Schumann's.
what is the name of this painting?
Storm King on the Hudson by Samuel Coleman
thank you, much appriciated!
TheMintytea Hudson River School had so many fabulous artists.Sure you do not mean Thomas Cole/
What does EG 119 mean?
That's the catalogue number, works without opus number have been assigned an EG number, a catalogue compiled by Dan Fog and the Edvard Grieg Committee.
That's the catalogue number, works without opus number have been assigned an EG number, a catalogue compiled by Dan Fog and the Edvard Grieg Committee.
Never understood why he suddenly was so embarassed by this work that he banned it from performance.
It is really a well crafted work and shows that he could handle symphonic forms and was not only a master of miniatures.
Of course the Svendsen is the better work. So what?
I think he may have felt that this was a very naive effort on his part, too indebted to Schumann and Mendelssohn. Sometimes people can be more critical of themselves than other people are inclined to be critical of THEM. I agree that it is a very good symphony.
The same reason why Sibelius destroyed his 8th : perfectionism (could that be a Scandinavian thing ?)
jigsawzoubir Considering how many sub-par works Sibelius left untouched, I doubt it. ;)
Given the Gade challenge the touches of Berwald at various points are not surprising - but on the whole Grieg's abnegation of 1867 was probably justified.
@abdul7591 it's interesting. i believe in what you say here, where people can be more critical of themselves than what others would believe of their work. i sometimes find myself under the same mindset as Grieg did with this symphony. I truly think this is a very intelligently written work, with rich and lovely orchestration, gorgeous melodies, and overall a well-crafted large orchestral work. i understand how grieg must have felt, although when i listened to the Svendsen symphony i thought it was great, but not as emotionally impactful as this work is (to me, at least).
グリーグの長所を考えればこの作品は黒歴史と捉えざるを得ないが、シューマンに影響されていたという事を考えれば、今のグリーグがあるのはこういった無名時の本場に習った勤勉な時代があったおかげなのかもしれない…。
Storm king mountain
A worthy effort, even if paying homage to Mendelssohn and Schuman.
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I think Grieg rejected it because it was written before he had found his own voice. It's only when we compare it with the piano concerto, rather than the Svendsen symphony, that we can understand his decision to disown it. It's an excellent piece, but can't be compared with Grieg's greatest works.
Belle symphonie romantique, avec éclats de cuivre et thèmes vigoureux... Grieg n'avait pas de raison d'en avoir honte. Elle n'est pas sans qualités en dépit d'une certaine écriture, disons "tradituionnelle", un peu téléphonée dans l'adagio...
We hear Dvorak and Elgar 26:18
Grieg did not put that symphony in his catalog. He considered it as being too weak.
This is a good recording; I'm playing this piece in the symphony I'm a part of. It'll be really helpful for learning the piece! Thanks for uploading it!