Crickets, from the gallery so far, your thinking a little above my pay grade. actually never heard of a Vape system before this bikes conversion. i have seen points to CDI kits though.
Thanks Rob. I looked over the installation instructions you sent and I'm pretty sure what I'm doing will work. Thanks again for sending the instructions.
When repairing another mechanic’s footsteps that were incorrect and unfamiliar systems are in use it is difficult. I encountered this situation with a vehicle that had a fiberglass front end ( no grounding). I struggled until realizing the incorrect modification. To solve my problem and restore functionality without factory information or diagrams I simply removed all the conections and wired it based on my knowledge of electrical systems and with a fiberglass nose I ran a ground wire. I believe the term “ground” is not correct. Direct Current systems are a loop or circle. A battery powered flashlight has no ground. To me the term ground refers to a rod pounded into the earth used to dissipate current in an unplanned event. You got this my man you just need to do what you know. Starting over from scratch is sometimes a time saver but so rare we resist.
You are correct Magic Box. The term ground refers to earth ground which is in many cases a rod pounded into Mother Earth or in the old days they would tie it to metal water pipes. "Common" is a more correct term, but it is common practice to use the word "Ground" even in DC circuits. You hear about "positive ground" or "negative ground" systems when people work on old cars for example. Progress is being made. Stay tuned.
Im assuming the Vape system as it is now on the diagram has done away with the AC mix (at the reg/rectifier) the stock Yam system had separated from the ign. Your diagram on the whiteboard seems to make sense to me. At least you can test this lighting system without having the engine running.
What you say is correct Banana. With the Vape you have to use the 12V from the battery because there is NO special lighting coil as is present in the Yamaha system.
Seems to Me that whom ever wired this system in was 1. not following instructions or 2. can't read! Good luck Jack take Your time a deep breath drop back 5 yards and PUNT LOL!
Good morning Jack. Doesn’t the Vape system come with the correct instructions to wire up the system or are they just very vague on how to get it correct?
It does Don, but the person that installed it on this bike obviously didn't follow it. The turn signals were eliminated and the headlight was tied directly onto what was effectively the positive side of the battery with no fuse.
When repairing another mechanic’s footsteps that were incorrect and unfamiliar systems are in use it is difficult. I encountered this situation with a vehicle that had a fiberglass front end ( no grounding). I struggled until realizing the incorrect modification. To solve my problem and restore functionality without factory information or diagrams I simply removed all the conections and wired it based on my knowledge of electrical systems and with a fiberglass nose I ran a ground wire. I believe the term “ground” is not correct. Direct Current systems are a loop or circle. A battery powered flashlight has no ground. To me the term ground refers to a rod pounded into the earth used to dissipate current in an unplanned event. You got this my man you just need to do what you know. Starting over from scratch is sometimes a time saver but so rare we resist.
hi, Jack!
Crickets, from the gallery so far, your thinking a little above my pay grade. actually never heard of a Vape system before this bikes conversion. i have seen points to CDI kits though.
Good luck brother. I think you are on the right track.
Thanks Cain, I'm pretty sure it's going to accomplish what I need.
I'm sure you'll get it all to work correctly. There's quite a few people using this system as the oem are pretty much unobtainable
Thanks Rob. I looked over the installation instructions you sent and I'm pretty sure what I'm doing will work. Thanks again for sending the instructions.
When repairing another mechanic’s footsteps that were incorrect and unfamiliar systems are in use it is difficult. I encountered this situation with a vehicle that had a fiberglass front end ( no grounding). I struggled until realizing the incorrect modification. To solve my problem and restore functionality without factory information or diagrams I simply removed all the conections and wired it based on my knowledge of electrical systems and with a fiberglass nose I ran a ground wire. I believe the term “ground” is not correct. Direct Current systems are a loop or circle. A battery powered flashlight has no ground. To me the term ground refers to a rod pounded into the earth used to dissipate current in an unplanned event. You got this my man you just need to do what you know. Starting over from scratch is sometimes a time saver but so rare we resist.
You are correct Magic Box. The term ground refers to earth ground which is in many cases a rod pounded into Mother Earth or in the old days they would tie it to metal water pipes. "Common" is a more correct term, but it is common practice to use the word "Ground" even in DC circuits. You hear about "positive ground" or "negative ground" systems when people work on old cars for example. Progress is being made. Stay tuned.
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Im assuming the Vape system as it is now on the diagram has done away with the AC mix (at the reg/rectifier) the stock Yam system had separated from the ign. Your diagram on the whiteboard seems to make sense to me. At least you can test this lighting system without having the engine running.
What you say is correct Banana. With the Vape you have to use the 12V from the battery because there is NO special lighting coil as is present in the Yamaha system.
Seems to Me that whom ever wired this system in was 1. not following instructions or 2. can't read! Good luck Jack take Your time a deep breath drop back 5 yards and PUNT LOL!
You are absolutely correct William.
Good morning Jack.
Doesn’t the Vape system come with the correct instructions to wire up the system or are they just very vague on how to get it correct?
It does Don, but the person that installed it on this bike obviously didn't follow it. The turn signals were eliminated and the headlight was tied directly onto what was effectively the positive side of the battery with no fuse.
Always difficult when the stock wiring has been messed with.
When repairing another mechanic’s footsteps that were incorrect and unfamiliar systems are in use it is difficult. I encountered this situation with a vehicle that had a fiberglass front end ( no grounding). I struggled until realizing the incorrect modification. To solve my problem and restore functionality without factory information or diagrams I simply removed all the conections and wired it based on my knowledge of electrical systems and with a fiberglass nose I ran a ground wire. I believe the term “ground” is not correct. Direct Current systems are a loop or circle. A battery powered flashlight has no ground. To me the term ground refers to a rod pounded into the earth used to dissipate current in an unplanned event. You got this my man you just need to do what you know. Starting over from scratch is sometimes a time saver but so rare we resist.