Exactly and it made me think, as a 1995-born, that there are no superstars in my age group. Great players of course like Gnabry, Bruno etc but not a dominant player like Messi or Mbappé
Yeah, I always thought that he was unlucky. Right now, he is below Messi and by the time his magic fades Mbappe, Haaland, etc. will take over and Neymar doesn't seem like the guy who can go all in even in his mid 30s
The most underrated aspect of Messi and Ronaldo over the years has to be their fitness. They have almost never missed a crunch European tie over the years.
I don't think this was underated at all. Ronaldo's fitness, his physique, his pace, his stature was one of the main reasons he's not having the same impact now as he was in his prime. Messi is just a phenomenally skillful player. I think the thing that sets the two apart from Neymar are attitude and Monday, which I think is the main cause for him not progressing into the player that he could and probably should have been. His choice of moving to PSG didn't help him either I think, and his antics of always rolling around when anyone even attempts to tackle him are just childlike. He's still just a child. That's why he's not seen as a great despite having all the attributes to be so.
@@mattpotter8725 Not many people talk about Messi's fitness though. Even well after their primes, both of them still play 30 games a season easily. I agree with your view on Neymar. Dude needs to be a bit more professional.
@@mattpotter8725 Neymar has shown growth as a professional ever since that World Cup in 2018 he doesn’t even dive as much as he used too (which he also did at Barca but didn’t get nearly the amount of hate for it as he does now) all this he isn’t professional talk is a super lazy argument that every critic uses against him. He works and plays hard sure he can cause problems on the field but that’s almost everyone
I agree coming up in the age of Messi and Ronaldo didn't help Messi pretty much dominated football the last 15 years it was all about Messi I actually feel bad for any footballer like Neymar who had to come up during that time it's they were chopped liver lol
Messi didn't dominate 15 years of football, lmao. Neymar was just unlucky being in the Ronaldo era. Since, Ronaldo was the one who won/dominated ballandor from 2013-2018.
And most of the footballing community (myself included) spent that time viciously arguing about who the better player is, instead of appreciating them both.
"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard." He's like the naturally smart/gifted kid that strolled through middle school but in high school and college his grades went downhill because he didn't put the work in, and kept getting passed by people less gifted that did put the work in.
Ya if u said cr7 hardwork and messi talent u are totally wrong. For me both a talented player when his youth career but both still have hardworking cause messi is hardworking training and a highly take care of their body thats why both can play till now cause if u just have a talent but won't use it to improve urself you gonna be like another player such a neymar
@Lucas Breder#GodeX Maybe if he cared more about training and his fitness so he was less injury prone, instead of crazy birthday parties and banging models, he wouldn't have had such "bad luck." That's it.
Idk maybe there is truth there, but just because he has crazy birthday parties doesn't mean he doesn't train hard. His injury problems may suggest that, but it could just be bad luck. People definitely kick the man a lot too. Idk I think people are a little harsh on him. Not saying he will ever be as prolific as Messi or Ronaldo but doesn't mean he isn't a great player in his own right
A bit harsh because he’s nowhere near as good as he is without working hard to be where he is. Unfortunately while you can argue his attitude is a problem I don’t blame it because he doesn’t work hard. That’s absurd. It’s like saying without Neymar Brazil doesn’t get into copa America final without him.
If Neymar had the same mentality as Ronaldo or Messi he could’ve almost been on that level, I mean whenever I’ve seen him play he almost always seems to be by far the most talented player on the pitch
Talent does not a diligent player make, though. He takes a lot of what was gifted to him for granted, and consistently overestimates himself in skill and importance. A petulant child whose daddy built his career. There's HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of kids in Brazilian streets who could easily develop their skills far past his own, but they weren't lucky enough to be born in money, with a dad who held influence in the footballing community. Neymar deserves to be considered a good player, yes, but "ballon d'or"? The fact he even came CLOSE to it is spitting on the faces of everyone who's achieved that glory. A fizzled firecracker - a peacock without feathers.
@@ArtByAusup you do not know absolutely nothing about what you are saying. 1 - neymar wasn't born on money. the only great players of brazil who were born in money are sócrates and kaká. if you just had googled him you would know that, but you didn't, because you're a fucking twat. 2 - his father had no influence in the football world before he became a professional player. absolutely none, no one knew who he was, even in his city 3 - michael owen, nedved and modric won that thing. NONE of these 3 are better players than neymar. he didn't "spit in the face" of those who achieved that glory. you're just a fucking hater who knows absolutely nothing about what you're saying.
"A player stuck between eras" I feel like Kaká would definitely fit that description. Sure he's won a Balon D'or, but his peak was at a moment when social media had just been starting, and his peak between 2005-2007 was kinda like the bridge between a more traditional style of football and a more polished style of European football, and also the start of the Ronaldo-Messi dominance.
Well said...a lot of clueless people were saying modric was the 1st player to beat messi and Ronaldo forgetting that the amazing Kaka was the 1st one to do it in 2007.
I personally don’t feel that Kaká was “a player stuck between eras.” In my personal opinion when Kaká won the Ballon d’Or, he was the best player on the planet. However, after Milan was forced to get rid of him and send him to Madrid. Injuries and the playing style had a massive impact on the downfall of Kaká. Kaká truly was an unlucky player who if stayed healthy and AC Milan remained financially secured, his reign of dominance would’ve lasted longer. After Kaká’s reign of grace, then came the Ronaldo and Messi show. It was perfectly lined up for them.
Good analysis. Imho, the 2014 WC was the pivotal moment. It was his chance to immortalize himself. He really was unlucky there, as the foul that led to his back injury was nasty. Then the 1-7 happened without him and Brazil has never been quite the same since then. They play beautiful football at times, but something is missing. Something Argentina had this year. Call it team spirit or the ultimate will to win. Personally, I don't care about PSG at all. You can't buy love.
They lack consistentcy they destroyed korea but struggled against Croatia huge performance difference. Also they need collective team effort .teams which have won World Cup had good performance of team
Beautiful football or Jogo bonita doesn't really work now except in exhibition matches. In tournaments lesser teams who park the bus can send big teams home.
you are wrong 7-1 was not a cause, but a consequence. brazil ended in 2005 after thinking they could be on top without effort. 2010 was the weakest generation ever and the idiot manager contributed even further for our demise because he hated good players, his team was like a church cult, the only quality you had to have was being CHAUVINISTIC lol.
@@mr.gaming6277 Agreed. Brazil never stoped producing highly skilled players, but is lacking something on the tactical side. You don't see Brazilians coaching the best clubs in Europe, for instance.
Brazil had no passion this year. They were also arrogant. Being the #1 ranked team they thought they would just walk over Croatia. And when Neymar got the pivotal goal against Croatia they didn't play good defense and just expected to win
Not gonna happen. They outgrew the financial realities of any club in the world. Acquiring Ronaldo brought Juve to the verge of ruin and Barça is also struggling badly (not because of Messi, though, but paying them _that_ much money surely doesn't help either). How should one club get them both if getting one of them is nearly impossible for virtually every club out there?
@@lonestarr1490 I think you're right. I think the best bet is if they retire and play some all start match or something. I mean it was just a hope, I don't think it's realistic either
Neymar maneged to be among the 10 best players in the world playing in Brasil. It shows how great his potencial is. unfornately, the injuries and bad career decisions are resulting in this current scenario
I don't think he was top 10 back then. I guess it depends on the exact season, but during his time at Santos there were many great players at their peak, many of them easily overlooked, like David Villa 2009-2010 season. If we're talking just about 2012-2013, it doesn't look any better. Apart from the obvious players from Barcelona and Real, Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund were absolutely stacked back then, with many players at their peak.
@@TiberiuAlexander Bruh Neymar was considered top 10. He was a goalscoring monster I remember he scored 43 goals in the 2012 season and also 40+ goals in 2010 season
@@RN-km3np I don't know man, I don't think anyone outside Brazil considered him top 10 back then. Potential to be top 10, yes. Actual top 10, no. 2009-2012 was Barcelona at their peak and pretty much everyone on that team was insane. If we're just talking about goals, they were goals in Brazil. Hell, 2009-10 Suarez scored 49 goals when he was playing for Ajax. There was this guy in Austria, cant remember the name, scored 39 goals in league only for Salzburg. Villa had a year when he was playing for Valencia (could be 2009) when he scored 43 goals for club + country. And 2012, that was Robben and Ribery at their peaks. And so many other players that people just forget how good they were back then. 2009-10 Sneijder was an absolute monster. It's just hard to imagine Neymar top 10 at that age. I think very few people thought that about him back then. Most people outside Brazil just watched his highlights videos and thought "hey, this kid could be the next Ronaldinho".
@@TiberiuAlexander he was actually 13th on the bollon dor list. I think it's fair for you to question wheter a player could be considerer top 10 playing in Brazil. I'am Brazilian and he was the best player that I've ever seen playing here after Romário.
@@rafaelpeixoto3869 I think it was hard to tell giving the difference in level of competition and exposure. He could have been, but I reckon most people didn't think so back then.
As a Brazilian, I can confidently say it's all about mentality. People admire Neymar's skills but a lot of people hates his personality. Also, Neymar gave multiple signs that he doesn't care about the Ballon d'Or. (Update: I don't hate neymar)
@UCjM-5vCRz9lDfZyCDaidpnQ 🤣 you are saying he has no love towards brazil you are 🖕. For Brazil he has more goal +assist ratio than Messi and he is only 29 and Messi is 34 . For his country neymar is doing his best .
“A player between eras” is an excellent description of Neymar. He left Barcelona to get out of Messi’s shadow and probably thought he would be Mbappe’s “mentor” for some time, but Mbappe was clearly ready for the world stage without Neymar’s guidance. Neymar is inarguably a ridiculously talented player (full of ego-motivated failings, admittedly), and he’ll have plenty of trophies by the time he retires. But there’s definitely a feeling that with the right timing, better decisions, and a bit of luck, he could’ve been king of the world.
He's 29 not 36, he still has a few years lol. And Neymar is still obviously a better player than Mbappe. Mbappe has the future, but he won't be at that level for 2-3 years yet.
@@Moosterton Like you said. He still has a few years. That few remaining years will most likely be dominated by Ronaldo/Messi or another Lewandowski-esque year. And when Messi and Ronaldo is out of the shadow, Haaland/Mbappe will rise up and it is too late for Neymar.
@@huydho3173 U dont know any of this lol. Idk how people are so confident that "it is too late". I don't think it should be controversial to say Neymar is one of the top 5 players in the world, and if he has a great season and psg win the ucl, he'd be a top contendor for balon d'or. That's not an outrageous thing outside the realm of possibility. I think it's less likely that Ronaldo will be up there in the coming years. He's 36, Juve might not even be in the ucl. It's like people here are just pulling narratives out of their butt for no reason
@@Moosterton There's no narratives - just an extremely lucky child who's become too self-absorbed in loving his own legend rather than the sport that's created it. Neymar isn't a footballer - he just 'plays football'. If he had any interest in developing further he would've - he has access to -everything-. It's his childish, broken ego and his incessant cowardly approach to the sport and his own career that's kept and forever will keep him away from the Pantheon of the greats. He's a star fizzled by his own lack of interest in the sport that gave him everything. I really dislike his dismissive, shoulder-shrug attitude, but even Ronaldinho Gaucho in his decline was light years ahead of Neymar at his brightest.
It is because of Messi and Ronaldo. Forget the attitude, if Nedved can win the Ballon d'or then Neymar surely deserve it. Difference is Nedved played in an era where players had a prime of 2-3 years. Neymar played in an era where players have prime of 10-11 years. Neymar is more of an entertainment, he is not a stat chaser. If Neymar played in 90's or 2000's, he surely would have won it. Players like Neymar are not appreciated in mordern day football.
Times have changed. Lewandowski had his best league season this year too - at the age of 32 he scored 41 goals in 28 matches. And so Ibrahimovic still plays on a high level being 39 yo (!!!) (he scored 17 goals and 2 assists in 23 matches! Which means he is still one of the best strikers in the world...) Well, modern technologies and body awareness will make players play longer and longer.
@@hbinitials7 Well, Ronaldo was playing as a striker recently. Anyway, i didn't advocate for Lewandowski to be goat (i mean he was better then them in stats in season 2019/20 and 20/21). But tbh i think Ronaldo doesn't play on his prime level anymore. And well, Lewandowski had 41 goals and 7 assists in 28 matches compared to Ronaldo's 29 goals and had 2 assists in 33 matches. Messi still is a beast though: 30 goals and 11 assists in 35 matches. So honestly i think it's fair to say that Lewandowski was better previous season in terms of personal performance than those two (i mean statistics). But ye, Messi had to carry his whole team on his shoulders, and because of that i can understand why they want to give him french ball. Honestly i don't think Copa America should be a factor in any award... It was really painful to watch these matches after seeing how Euro went. Still, i consider Messi the best player in history.
Well maybe if Neymar puts a little bit more effort and fully commits himself throughout the season to be better (not faking injuries, not partying every weekend, not attending the Carnaval and her sister’s birthday, being a real leader and not just a brat) he could actually achieve sth important
Ok… valid points and truly heartbreaking. I admire Neymar’s talent so much. I wish he turns this around and shocks the entire world and his critics. He deserves all the accolades before he retires. I believe in his God given abilities.
amen. this is also one thing that i pray to God hahaha i really hope he can make people see how great he is. tho im not sure whether it will happen or not. but i really hope that he can do this
@@njbrx I'm not a Barca fan, but I was shocked when the move was made official. I remember thinking to myself that the transfer was exactly like Kyrie Irving's move to Boston. Both Irving and Neymar were in a system and team that worked well for them and had a more obvious star leading the team, but both left to become the "focal point" for their new teams. The Neymar move just didn't make sense from the start.
It’s impossible to outshine Messi I think he did the right thing, he had to create he’s own legacy. Even if Neymar did something spectacular at barca people will say Messi is the one carrying the team and don’t give Neymar credit
@@ogwu6732 except you can't outshine Messi by going to a league and a team that people hardly pay attention to. He had to do it at Barça as part of the MSN trio but now he's lost it all. I can't imagine PSG competing as hard in the UCL when Real & Barça set their team up for next seasons with City, Bayern & a rejuvenated Chelsea already in the scene. They barely got past Bayern this year.
Everyone always says his “attitude” like what has this guy done so bad? Joining PSG and fair enough the occasional dive but he doesn’t seem to act anyway on and of the pitch
@@jayanthkumar6309 he's an insane talent, I don't think psg was the best choice but he wanted to be the man. It's just unfortunate timing with messi and ronaldo, he needs a move to Madrid to help his bdo chances.
Ok, I'm brazilian. I have finally seen a great argument about Neymar's carreer and his chances to win the Ballon D'or. There is also much hate on him and people always confuse things and evaluate him differently than the others. Yes, he is a magician player and I'm that type of a guy who truly believed and believes that he deserved to be the best player in the world, but this appearences and goals statistics are really important. He actually didn't play as many games as CR7 and Messi during the past seasons. Even though I don't agree that his move to PSG was a mistake, I totally understand the he could have shown more - in and off the pitch. Great analysis. Congrats.
People's perception of Neymar is always going to be that of a topper in his class with a very cringy attitude. That's the reason why he never attained a cult-like status in the dimension of the footballing world.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld I understand the comparison but Harden did much for the game and the shape of the game. What impact does Neymar have? He's fulfilling stereotypes. An extremely talented diva. He's a more focused Ronaldinho.
I never understood why people thought he would get overshadowed cause of messi. David villa, theiry Henry and even iniesta and Xavi showed their class playing with messi.
Yes but none of them acheived a ballondor, neymar has also showed his class by playing with messi numerous times, even when messi was absent neymar was there. Neymar is just not going to win ballondor as long as messi is there and thats a fact because messi is the main man in barcelona.
@@lasttobest8955 winning and playing great football isn’t enough to forwards nowadays. They always gonna aim for a ballon d’or, that’s why they wouldn’t be content with just playing with Messi and winning trophies for the team, their always gonna chase the individual silverware. David Villa and Pedro are great players who didn’t care about individual awards.
@@lasttobest8955 I would argue that this whole 'overshadowed' concept is very misunderstood. The main reason for Neymar Jr's departure was that the game plan of FCB always revolved around Lionel Messi. Their manager(s) always seemed to create a tactic which will give Messi the freedom and space to perform, leaving Neymar as a sideman who is being used for the success of others. Although I personally find this an invalid reason, since Neymar could have outshined everyone in terms of assists, I am not mad on Neymar for doing so.
@@tonysteak9757 yup, messi's playmaker position was never going to be taken away because his talented ofcourse and cause barcelona is already very used to the system having messi at cam. Having neymar on side raises many threats and gives messi way more freedom. Because neymar is very talented and smart on the ball as well. Messi would have always have way more assist than anyone because as you said because of neymar acting as the threat on the side. I would also argue when people said neymar should have stayed to be succesor of messi. I find that invalid because messi is still being amazing at farcelona despite being like 34 yrs old i think, so then neymar would basically be the main man when his like 32? And messi is like 40 something? Neymar was never going to win ballondor in barcelona. I think it was good of him to move from barcelona i just dont know if psg was the right destination
As a Brazilian, it's a shame to see what Neymar has become. I remember him tearing the league apart and making even the best brazilian (and south-american) defenders look like crap. I support a rival team that Neymar destroyed a couple of times, but he was a joy to watch. He gave us hope of better things to come after the "burocratic" Brazilian team in 2010 WC. But I don't feel the same watching him nowadays. He seems to have lost his spark and isn't taking football seriously, much like we've seen with Ronaldinho. Nowadays we hear more about his off field adventures than his on field performance.
Dybala loves Juve so he's fine, i don't think he'd trade his favourite club for personal glory, that's what Italy does to you. But Isco should have come to Barcelona, my man's a culer, just look at him with his FCB shirt in those old pictures. He would have been a good replacement for Xavi with his ridiculous creativity, instead of warming the bench for a 36 year old modric.
honestly, as a brazilian we all know that it is not a problem that he was born "between eras" the problem is that he is a man-child with a father that never told him no and will never have the mental strenght to be the best...that is it
frase de um filho de um conservador que só olha pra estatísticas e não pensa como deve-se pensar diante de livre arbítrio, a questão não é ser mimado ou não dar importância aos títulos, ele simplesmente põe seu prazer como ser humano a frente de simplesmente nomeações, o cara nasceu pra viver por si e não tem nada de errado nisso, muito pelo contrário, manter-se feliz afeta muito no estilo de jogo vívido que o Brasil culturalmente sempre tem e deve continuar tendo, do jeito estúpido que você pensa, o Neymar seria um novo Baggio, um gênio que foi julgado por cometer UM erro, conservar pensamentos ou sentimentos antigos ainda é o principal distúrbio desse país, seja no futebol, seja na política.
@@technobreided6351 Discordo de você. Meu pai sempre me ensinou que devo trabalhar duro para conseguir conquistas na minha vida. Acredito que para merecer algo, devo fazer um trabalho bem feito. Neymar não leva seu trabalho nem seu talento a sério. Sinto que hoje ele só joga pelo dinheiro.
@@WarCat600 Entenda, ele trabalhou duro e conquistou o que bilhões não tem, mas não dá pra viver pra jogar, se você pode e te motiva, então você deve, sabe? Não digo que não se deve trabalhar para conseguir, mas o cara também pode escolher entre ser feliz ou ser 100% destemido, entende?
@@technobreided6351 Neymar nunca chegou no potencial máximo dele em toda sua carreira de futebol. Ele sempre teve um monstro do futebol dentro dele, e nunca conseguiu liberar ele. Trabalho duro? Não fez. Com 14 anos disse pra professora que não queria estudar que não precisava pq não ia ganhar “Salário merreca de professor”, falta de respeito com uma das profissões mais importantes do mundo. Trabalho duro exemplar é o do Zlatan, 41 anos nas costas, deu tudo pelo futebol e viveu uma vida saudável e boa. O problema não é ir pra festas, problema é não levar trabalho a sério, e isso ele não faz há tempos. Respeito ele, mas se ele não acordar e se dedicar, nunca trará o Hexa para nós. Ainda discordo de você.
@@jds997 Ronaldo is 36😂 people often forget that. Neymar went to the french league in his prime. Someone like Mbappe is only using that league as a stepping stone.
@@abhisinhaa22 I do believe that in last season’s champions league Lyon beat Manchester city and that there was two league 1 sides in the champions league semi finals
Brazilian players in general, specially in modern times, have a reputation for inconsistency and not being able to leave partying behind. One year they are on top and the next it seems as if their talent or drive to win banished. That has been reflected on the National team too. To give Neymar some credit he has remained very competitive and the best of his country for a long time, even if he never reached the heights people imagined he should have.
Maybe it wasnt quite all Neymar's fault. Messi and Ronaldo has set a whole new best player standard that overcomes every balondor holders in the past and maybe in the long future. Neymar was expected to become the next big thing because people used to believe that Leo and Cristiano would soon fall out after their thirties like every other ballondor holders, but unluckily (or more like luckily), the duo has continued to entertain us till now
Neymar, and not to mention Mbappe Haaland and a host of other younger stars, have a great shot at winning the Ballon d'or but Tifo's choice is the Ivorian international Ibrahim Sangare
Honestly that "back injury" was more of an attack to take him out willingly accepting that he might not recover from it at all. I remember the game. Some guy basically jump-kicked him into the spine, which, unsurprisingly, resulted in a fracture. That could have well paralyzed him for life. I don't think it was a result of worse fitness or so compared to Messi/Ronaldo, just bad luck. There were obviously other injuries that i know less about but that one had nothing to do with him.
i look a neymar and think: "what if he took himself as seriously as CR7"? i mean i have always grown up with the idea that the one who works the hardest, deserves the best. Thats why i always put CR7 first, i cant thnk of anyone who puts so much time in taking care of himself as Ronaldo. I think Neymar is a better naturally giftet footballer than CR7, but Ronaldo works harder to become better
It's a fact actually neymar is more god gifted than cr7 and equally as messi but to some point I think it's because of the rivalry that they have reached the level they kept on working hard to compete that the other dosent comes first
@@Gio102897 yeah? I never mentioned Messi in this argument.... Me who prefers Ronaldo over anyone still think Messi is a better footballer. But i prefer Ronaldo
Not only UCL, he has to win the doublet, Ligue 1 and UCL. And if that year happens to be one of international competition, he has to win it as well (Copa América or World Cup)
@@bobmendoza2450 nah, you trippin. Messi and Ronaldo have like 0 chance of winning another UCL in their current declining teams, so as long as he wins Champions league and puts up great performances in the tournament, he's for sure getting that Ballon d'or.
@@immigratoclandestino6259 Winning titles does help but to an extent you have to be the star of your team Ronaldo didnt win nothing 2013 but he won it bcus he was absolutely marvelous I dont get that vybe from neymar and juve have a good team talented players it kinda reminds me of ajax but there needs to be better management Ronaldo ain't built for that defensive tactics the Italian managers use he needs zidane that whole team needs zidane and Barca needs Somebody like Mourinho that would transform that team and bring them back on top Koeman could go back Sunderland he's no good for Barca
With Modric (33) and Benzema (35) getting one late on in their careers, I think Neymar could also do the same. Although he would have to get lucky with a good World Cup run, or Mbappe and Haaland to have a bit of a down season.
it would be nice to see him win it at least once.. the '14 WC was cruel to Brazil although Germany proved to everybody they deserved it. Neymar has definitely marked the beginning of a social media craze, whether it is his flair, his hairstyle, attitude, shoes and more recently contractural headlines, and being a player between eras - it would just be nice to see him hold the Ballon d'Or for the people and fans.. thank you for the amazing video
unpopular opinion : I think Neymar reached Messi and CR7's level between 2014 and 2017. Of course he had less goals but that's because he wasn't in the center of his team unlike them but on the other stats he was clearly at their level if not better some years (dribble, assists, key passes, cross, dual win, etc.) and he was relevant during big games, sometimes even more than them. Unfortunatly, like said in this video, popularity and campaign for the ballon d'or is more important than the true level. I remember so many games were Neymar was the true hero of Barca but every newspaper had Messi on their first page. Of course I'm not saying that he was stolen a Ballon d'Or (whatever it means), just that in term of pur capacity, he was similar to them during that period. Unfortunatly passed 2017 he was to frequently injured too obtain it.
i disagree, maybe only 2015 neymar had that great level. he is a player who not afraid from big games, but he misses too much passes and plays compared to them both, and isnt consistent in scoring, wich implies he not that good in puting himself in the right place and/or shooting
Pretty detailed. I must admit, when I saw the title I assumed it was going to be one of those Neymar rant videos but this really did change nh perspective. Great job as always Tifo!
The issue as I see it with Neymar is that he never had someone tell him what Mino riola told zlatan, "sell all your cars and concentrate on football". Neymar has been in the public eye since he was a teenager and let that part of his life overshadow his football. He could have skipped the cameo in xxx-the return of Xander cage.
Zlatan's the only player till date who I believe should have achieved way more & including a Ballon D'or. Had it all but again , luck plays an important role .
I laughed out loud. You couldn't have picked a worse line-up🤣 Could've picked Vini, Bellingham, Valverde, Rashford, Saka, Musiala, Pedri, Gavi and my man picks the 3 players who failed their expectations the most🤣🤣
@@iLeetjeehbro it was 2 years ago for example Haaland wasn’t a city player,Fati even injured was better than Vini (at the time he was very inconsistent) Sancho was great,had seasons such as 20+ goals and 20+ assists (the only in Europe back then to do so with Messi)
Expectations about him were always bigger than his real performance. A few flashes of genious here and there but as many brazilian players he lacks the discipline and mentality to display his talent in a regular basis and support his ambitions. And thats especially essential in the Messi-Ronaldo era. These two are beasts, have an enormous talent but also an undeniable strong work ethic. They put football first and live for it and for that reason their performances have been always constant and over the top. Neymar only cares about fame and money and is a toxic element in any club. Football is a team sport and his ego is not a good mix to achieve success.
It makes me sad that forwards are the only players really considered these days. The defenders that shut them down just get ignored because they're not as flashy or standout
I don’t think any defender since Cannavaro was dominant enough to justify a Ballon D‘or. Ramos was always overhyped because he is so freaking dangerous as a scorer but tbh his defending has never been elite. The only one who came close to a Ballon D‘or Level was VvD, but he played on this level only for a very short amount of time. The problem may also be that the defenders aren’t really able to stand out of themselves. If you asked people about the best defender in the world you could have gotten many answers the past few years, there is nobody like the Messi&Ronaldo Duo who were just better than anybody else. It doesn’t make a big difference wether you have Ramos, Thiago Silva, Hummels, Boateng, Godin, VvD, Lahm, Varane or Chiellini in their prime because they’re just to close to each other. Probably i even forgot some players
@@basti2955 well I feel even cannavaro dosen't much deserve the ballon d or there have been better defenders than him like maldini baresi in the past he just won because his team won WC that year
@@indronilganguly9715 Cannavaro was the best and most dominant player in world cup 2006, i sadly dont know much about club performances that time. But what he did at the world cup has never been done again since then and its not even close. I think he deserved it but tbh there hasnt been a player like prime ronaldo or messi at that time.
I've assumed that as youths the fastest most athletic players are placed at forward, not defense. Even Bale, who started at defense for 1st team Hotspurs, was pushed to forward. When teams constantly push the best players out of the defense, the remaining defenders are always going to look "weaker" than the players they have to defend. The only athletically stunning defender I can think of right now is Wan-Bissaka, and he still has a couple more years to go to develop into a dominant defender. I've heard the Italians traditionally prioritized defense, so I assumed they kept their best athletes on defense instead of pushing them to forward. But in the English game, you have that English manager who laughed at Liverpool's transfer price for VvD exemplifying the English attitude toward defense, i.e., "why would you spend that much money on a defender?" a.k.a. "improving your defense is for losers." Just think what Wegner's last few years at Arsenal could have been if he had gotten 4 great defenders (since Arsenal left their 4 defenders alone with massive areas to defend). They would have continued to score absolutely beautifully worked out goals and not have given up mind-boggling easy goals due to astoundingly bad defending.
Wrong career choice? PSG has been in last CL final and this year's semis defeating Messi's barca and bayern. He will have more shot at winning CL with PSG than any other clubs.
Of course he was unfortunate, but that's the same for all others too. Neuer,Van dijk,Suarez,Lewandowski,Robben,Xavi,Iniesta, even Bale could have won Ballon dor if Messi and Ronaldo weren't there
Dhruv Rawat Definitely true, but a lot of PSG’s recent successes have been due to Mbappe’s excellence. So kind of proves the point that for a Ballon D’Or Neymar might’ve been better off elsewhere.
Besides what was said in the video, it really is the environment around him too that hindered neymar. The players around him, and his injuries are largely to blame to the constant knocks and clashes he goes against when defenders slide in to take him out. It’s really unfortunate to not see him at his full potential
Talent ,skills , hardwork may at best secure One Ballon d'or But to win it multiple times , Discipline + Commitment + Consistency is needed Thanks Cristiano & Messi for teaching us this life lesson
What he did to Haaland last season explains it all. Maybe if he could correct his childish behaviors and mature a little, then he might stand a chance one day.
You guys are so boring. Wtf is wrong with a little taunting, Haaland made a post saying “my city” when he landed in Paris. Neymar replied by copying his celebration and knocked him out. Ronaldo has copied simeone’s celebration too after scoring a hatrick to knock atletico out. Messi copied Ronaldo’s celebration when he took off his shirt and showed the back with his name to the crowd. Why do you want footballers to be robots? And why are you treating it differently when Neymar is the one that does it.
@@christianopulinaldo8319 lmao, so its wrong to treat him like a MAN ? its like "oh my little baby haaland taunted me? how cute he are" now am I more mature than neymar right ???????????
@@christianopulinaldo8319 ..... isn’t it more embarrassing that a 50 year old and 34 year old were busy doing thrust movements on the pitch in that case? There’s nothing wrong with taunting lmao.
@@Aniissshhhh he will be big but not bigger IMO. Pep calls him stoke port iniesta, and I think that’s a reasonable forecast for his career. Even now KDB aka by far the best attacking midfielder isn’t exactly bigger than Lewandowski and Salah/neymar, which is where I see haaland and Mbappe end up
I wouldn't say more enjoyable. From the 2000s to about 2018 football was incredibly entertaining with so many great players. Like let's take 2014 for example, in the world at that single year the amount of world class players was crazy now it's like meh. I think this whole generation is a transitioning period
Neymar's way of playing is so beautiful. Its like he is performing or dancing. I love watching him play because it brings back what made football so exciting and fun to watch growing up with players like Ronaldo (9) and Ronaldhino. He doesnt get respect from the public and in my opinion other players dont respect him. He is accused of diving (i know he can be dramatic) but if you watch replays of players tackling him, they really do it viciously and many times it seems they do it on purpose. Other big players dont get tackled in the same way. So he can't be blamed for the injuries. Also the position he plays has a lot to do with how much he scores. He creates opportunities for others. For me, when assessing a player, we should look at the player as a whole and not just how much they score.
I've always had the feeling that Neymar could be right up there with Messi and Ronaldo. Can't explain why. It's just a feeling. Perhaps I sense his talent. But he was never going to reach messi and ronaldo's heights without mirroring their dedication.
Looks like a teen, but isn't. He's only god 5-6 yrs more to play. with ronaldo and Messi playing for 2-3 yrs more, He's only got 3 yrs max without messi and ronaldo playing. Till then, mbappe and haaland will dominate football, Again he'll be way past the eras.
@@JakePeraltaaa99 lol Mbappe?? Haaland? They are not even close to Neymar's, R7 or Messi league at the same age. It's easier to believe some new Brazilian, Italian or Argentinian will appear to steal the show. Mbappe isn't that good, he isn't a football genius or someone who can carrie a team. Neymar is carrying the brazilian national team for years. By the way, France national team isn't even French
Yes, because you know him personally. Pathetic. The same way people mocked Oscar for going to China as he was using the money to build houses for everyone in his hometown. Sorry do not result to personal insults when you do not know someone personally It makes you look pathetic
Neymar not winning a Ballan D'or and Messi not winning an international trophy by the end of their respective careers seems injustice to their talent and legacy but at the same time pretty much realistic at this point of time . 😔 Edit: Messi won Copa America 🙏🙏❤
Neymar definitely used to not take his talent as seriously as he should have in the earlier years at PSG but in the last few seasons he’s definitely sharpened up and committed more the only problem is all those injuries that keep happening to him but even with all that being said I still think he can commit more and PSG need more from him and I think if he worked as hard as Cristiano and Messi I feel like he could be up there with them and have those kinds of numbers now that he’s signed a new deal I guess we’ll see what happens
he can't, its impossible. this philosophy of working hard is good for capitalists to exploit our sweat and nothing more. the guy clearly doesnt have what it takes to be #1, he doesnt have the body to achieve this goal and that's all, you may find it cruel, but giving hope to hopeless attempts is the cruelest of things.
4:55 this pretty sums up the condition too, besides being 'a player between two eras' he is also not up for the competition where the qualification is more than just skill and naturally gifted talent, you need to work hard and have the guts to win.. And that's what both Messi and Ronaldo did that makes them sit on another level
He may not win the ballon d'or but he is enjoying life. Living the dream. He may want to win something for the team though to make him a legend in the club.
I think it didn’t help for Neymar that the hype for him coming from Brazil was so loud that by the time he arrived in Europe we were bound to think he was overrated. When he came from Santos to Barca the talk was that he would almost immediately displace Messi and was not just Leo but Pele’s natural heir. That first season and then the 2014 WC while he was adjusting to Europe and Stardom were then very underwhelming
I think if he actually stays fit to play a full season he could still win. I think he's definitely more talented that Mbappe IMHO. If PSG can win a CL and Neymar stays healthy he can win it. I don't think he'll ever reach the heights of Messi or Ronaldo but nobody else will either that's not Neymar's fault
Super Gigi never got that "award". Andrea Pirlo same story. Both of them redefined their role and raised the bar but never scored 50 goals a year (what became dominantly the biggest thing that counts).
Still some fans compare him to Messi Ronaldo. They have 11 ballon d'ors and they play for it every second. Where this guy is like that insanely talented kid who never grew up.
A player between eras is a really nice sentence here. I believe there are quite a few players who would fit in that category, Paulo Dybala immediately came to mind. would be an interesting topic of discussion, how big a role does timing hold in how big a footballer one can become.
Neymar was a star in Brazil since he was a kid always labelled the "Chosen one" and in 2014 it seemed like he could fulfill that destiny that if we're being honest was not a destiny he chose for himself and when that injury against Colombia happened it meant his destiny was gone forever and ever since a sense of self-entitlement crept in and he has not been able to shake it off
I always think goals per game scored is a great measure of an attacker's potency. It's not what I would use to sign a player, since an injured player is no good to a team, but as a fan, Neymar's injury record does not detract from how great he is when he is on the field. Plus... at what price beauty? The way he plays is extraordinary.
It's pretty obvious. He joined the sport during the time of Ronaldo and Messi. Not only that for much of his time he played alongside talents bigger than himself. He feeds those bigger talents, and scoring goals will always be worth more than setting up the goal. Then you get into the issue, that players like Messi, or Mbappe, don't need Neymar to help them. He's unfortunately been placed in the trap of playing for high profile clubs with the greatest players in the world, and not being the center piece of those clubs. If he was a striker, and not a winger he would be talked about differently. Also the crying and pretending you broke your ankle doesn't help either.
He was always after glamour. To be the best, he needed to have a tough and disciplined mentality like Messi, CR7, Zidane etc. Even R9 partied a lot, but on the field he never did diving theatrics. Now in late 20s and early 30s, players like KDB and Lewandowski are far more reliable than him.
I feel like excpectations could be a part of it too, you know. I mean, neymar comes from a country which traditionally has had a lot of great players. And, you can't only critique neymar after a Pelé, for example. Brazil has had a host of great players, like ronaldinho gaucho, ronaldo lima , romario, just to name a few . At least on the national team, you can't excpect him to win 1, 2 or 3 world cups. That was only possible for pelé, but Pelé played for some of the greatest brazilian national teams though. Anyways, neymar will always be a brazilian great who might not have lived up to the hype of some . But he is brazilian after all, its not that easy being a Brazilian playing for Brazil, knowing their history.
Could have been the successor of Messi in Barcelona.... Neymar playing style is similar to Messi and he is the best dribbler in the world after Leo... surely Messiwould have helped him to win the Ballon Dor
exactly, I feel like had he been messi's successor he could have definitely won it in his 30s.. shame he couldn't be patient. Even if PSG win the CL now it surely will go to Mbappe, unless neymar has a 15 goal CL campaign or something
No not possible i think without messi he would have done anything shit with this team and even if he and messi would have won together messi would have got the ballon d or
Every point said in the video is correct. It suits for Eden hazard as well.but a point to be added is that half or even more than half of the goals kylian mbappe scored are because of neymar.his assists,passes and vision is so good .bad luck that he will never win a ballon d'or.if injuries had not troubled him he would have scored atleast had 150 goals and have 100 assists for psg by now because he has now got 81 goals and 55 assists in such limited appearances which is insane😲😲
You can same the same about Mbappe, they obviously completed each other and are a deadly duo but Neymar is getting up there with age and his lack of discipline will have him with more injuries than he would like.
Wow, this video only came out today and there's already 1,171 comments. That's Neymar for you.. and obviously Tifo's ability to create brilliant, thought-provoking, well-illustrated videos that get to the heart of popular talking points and more obscure stories.
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Right to the point! "A player between eras". Greetings from Brazil.
The fact the video is 2 years old and has reached 1 million subscribers, shows what kind of prediction it was from Tifo Football. Now in 2023 Neymar left Europe and join Saudi pro League. He may not won ballondor in his career but won multiple individual awards and team trophy. Hope he enjoy his career in Al Hilal.
Foden is far from Mbappé and Håland. Man City won because another talente players like De Bruyne and Gundogan. Foden is actually some Tottenham level os player
@@joshwashington7655 I think I get your point. That being said, I feel like you’re significantly underrating FODEN’s skill. To some extent, your point could apply to M’BAPPÉ too, the guy literally plays with Neymar and VERRATTI, DI MARÍA, etc... I get you, though, but please try and be fair to FODEN too. Benching STERLING and taking over SANE’s spot isn’t exactly easy for any player on the planet and he’s killing it right now.
@@joshwashington7655 actually Foden was the one who scored the winning goal in both matches against Dortmund, he drew the foul that led to Mahrez's winner against PSG first leg, and assisted vs PSG second leg. And if you watched any of the games you'd know besides that stuff he was one of their best players
I have a feeling 10 years from now, Foden will be the Iniesta and Haaland and Mbappe will be CR7 and Messi. The latter two will always be regarded as the top footballing stars, but understand as well that Foden is simply magical.
“A player between eras” that’s the perfect way to describe his situation
Exactly and it made me think, as a 1995-born, that there are no superstars in my age group. Great players of course like Gnabry, Bruno etc but not a dominant player like Messi or Mbappé
Yeah, I always thought that he was unlucky. Right now, he is below Messi and by the time his magic fades Mbappe, Haaland, etc. will take over and Neymar doesn't seem like the guy who can go all in even in his mid 30s
*Perfect description*
@@andreatommasi3287 Mbappé is part of your age group what are you talking about? 🤨
@@Zzz-se7om it's just different when a player is younger than you
The most underrated aspect of Messi and Ronaldo over the years has to be their fitness. They have almost never missed a crunch European tie over the years.
I don't think this was underated at all. Ronaldo's fitness, his physique, his pace, his stature was one of the main reasons he's not having the same impact now as he was in his prime. Messi is just a phenomenally skillful player. I think the thing that sets the two apart from Neymar are attitude and Monday, which I think is the main cause for him not progressing into the player that he could and probably should have been. His choice of moving to PSG didn't help him either I think, and his antics of always rolling around when anyone even attempts to tackle him are just childlike. He's still just a child. That's why he's not seen as a great despite having all the attributes to be so.
@@mattpotter8725 Not many people talk about Messi's fitness though. Even well after their primes, both of them still play 30 games a season easily.
I agree with your view on Neymar. Dude needs to be a bit more professional.
That is because they are disciplined and professional
@@adithyapradeep2506 spot on... "he was gifted" "he doesn't even need to train" dfkm
@@mattpotter8725 Neymar has shown growth as a professional ever since that World Cup in 2018 he doesn’t even dive as much as he used too (which he also did at Barca but didn’t get nearly the amount of hate for it as he does now) all this he isn’t professional talk is a super lazy argument that every critic uses against him. He works and plays hard sure he can cause problems on the field but that’s almost everyone
"A football prince without a crown." That really defines Ney Jr.
I agree coming up in the age of Messi and Ronaldo didn't help Messi pretty much dominated football the last 15 years it was all about Messi I actually feel bad for any footballer like Neymar who had to come up during that time it's they were chopped liver lol
Messi didn't dominate 15 years of football, lmao. Neymar was just unlucky being in the Ronaldo era. Since, Ronaldo was the one who won/dominated ballandor from 2013-2018.
Neymar prime was like since 2012-2018.
@@aromalkrishnana2032 ? Messi was the superstar of the last 15 years you forget he started playing professionally when he was 16
@@Model_Roe superstar doesn't mean dominance, my g😂😂. Messi was not the only superstar. There were more.
Three times you put a crown on his head, three times you took it straight off. Tifo are lowkey brutal.
😂😂😂😂 good one mate
Neymar will always be known as the rich child of football. Diving and crying child.
Think it’s just a stock animation but yeah those Tifo guys are gangsters
Neymar is not durable
The guy can't even win the second rate Ligue Un title, no hope of Balon. Lewandowski was robbed last year,its a disgrace that it was cancelled.
This video proves that how lucky we were to see dominance of Ronaldo and Messi at the same time.
@@rrsharizam ok.
And most of the footballing community (myself included) spent that time viciously arguing about who the better player is, instead of appreciating them both.
It’s truly unbelievable , wish I was able to see an el Clasico before he moved to Italy
@@motsapiramatlapeng7571 It's dumb isn't it. It would've been so much better if I just appreciated them both from the beginning
Why do you think their dominance was a good thing? Did that that make the game more exciting?
"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard." He's like the naturally smart/gifted kid that strolled through middle school but in high school and college his grades went downhill because he didn't put the work in, and kept getting passed by people less gifted that did put the work in.
Ya if u said cr7 hardwork and messi talent u are totally wrong. For me both a talented player when his youth career but both still have hardworking cause messi is hardworking training and a highly take care of their body thats why both can play till now cause if u just have a talent but won't use it to improve urself you gonna be like another player such a neymar
@Lucas Breder#GodeX Maybe if he cared more about training and his fitness so he was less injury prone, instead of crazy birthday parties and banging models, he wouldn't have had such "bad luck." That's it.
Idk maybe there is truth there, but just because he has crazy birthday parties doesn't mean he doesn't train hard. His injury problems may suggest that, but it could just be bad luck. People definitely kick the man a lot too. Idk I think people are a little harsh on him. Not saying he will ever be as prolific as Messi or Ronaldo but doesn't mean he isn't a great player in his own right
this post is a mirror for me smh
A bit harsh because he’s nowhere near as good as he is without working hard to be where he is. Unfortunately while you can argue his attitude is a problem I don’t blame it because he doesn’t work hard. That’s absurd. It’s like saying without Neymar Brazil doesn’t get into copa America final without him.
If Neymar had the same mentality as Ronaldo or Messi he could’ve almost been on that level, I mean whenever I’ve seen him play he almost always seems to be by far the most talented player on the pitch
I dont think so maybe if he didnt dive so much he would have a bigger following and people would like him more
Ronaldo and Messi have treated football like a religion
Talent does not a diligent player make, though.
He takes a lot of what was gifted to him for granted, and consistently overestimates himself in skill and importance.
A petulant child whose daddy built his career.
There's HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of kids in Brazilian streets who could easily develop their skills far past his own, but they weren't lucky enough to be born in money, with a dad who held influence in the footballing community.
Neymar deserves to be considered a good player, yes, but "ballon d'or"? The fact he even came CLOSE to it is spitting on the faces of everyone who's achieved that glory.
A fizzled firecracker - a peacock without feathers.
@@ArtByAusup if that were the case where are “these” talented players u talk about ? I get neymar has his antics nd stuff but u cannot deny his talent
@@ArtByAusup you do not know absolutely nothing about what you are saying.
1 - neymar wasn't born on money. the only great players of brazil who were born in money are sócrates and kaká. if you just had googled him you would know that, but you didn't, because you're a fucking twat.
2 - his father had no influence in the football world before he became a professional player. absolutely none, no one knew who he was, even in his city
3 - michael owen, nedved and modric won that thing. NONE of these 3 are better players than neymar. he didn't "spit in the face" of those who achieved that glory.
you're just a fucking hater who knows absolutely nothing about what you're saying.
"A player stuck between eras"
I feel like Kaká would definitely fit that description. Sure he's won a Balon D'or, but his peak was at a moment when social media had just been starting, and his peak between 2005-2007 was kinda like the bridge between a more traditional style of football and a more polished style of European football, and also the start of the Ronaldo-Messi dominance.
Whoever you are, wow. Impressive man
@@chillaxboi2109 wow, thanks man! That's the most positive reply I've ever got, ngl
@@animashionsyt5912 No worries. It really is a good description of Kaká, too. You've encapsulated that message so well I had to give you props
Well said...a lot of clueless people were saying modric was the 1st player to beat messi and Ronaldo forgetting that the amazing Kaka was the 1st one to do it in 2007.
I personally don’t feel that Kaká was “a player stuck between eras.” In my personal opinion when Kaká won the Ballon d’Or, he was the best player on the planet. However, after Milan was forced to get rid of him and send him to Madrid. Injuries and the playing style had a massive impact on the downfall of Kaká. Kaká truly was an unlucky player who if stayed healthy and AC Milan remained financially secured, his reign of dominance would’ve lasted longer. After Kaká’s reign of grace, then came the Ronaldo and Messi show. It was perfectly lined up for them.
Good analysis. Imho, the 2014 WC was the pivotal moment. It was his chance to immortalize himself. He really was unlucky there, as the foul that led to his back injury was nasty. Then the 1-7 happened without him and Brazil has never been quite the same since then. They play beautiful football at times, but something is missing. Something Argentina had this year. Call it team spirit or the ultimate will to win.
Personally, I don't care about PSG at all. You can't buy love.
They lack consistentcy they destroyed korea but struggled against Croatia huge performance difference. Also they need collective team effort .teams which have won World Cup had good performance of team
Beautiful football or Jogo bonita doesn't really work now except in exhibition matches. In tournaments lesser teams who park the bus can send big teams home.
you are wrong 7-1 was not a cause, but a consequence. brazil ended in 2005 after thinking they could be on top without effort. 2010 was the weakest generation ever and the idiot manager contributed even further for our demise because he hated good players, his team was like a church cult, the only quality you had to have was being CHAUVINISTIC lol.
@@mr.gaming6277 Agreed. Brazil never stoped producing highly skilled players, but is lacking something on the tactical side. You don't see Brazilians coaching the best clubs in Europe, for instance.
Brazil had no passion this year. They were also arrogant. Being the #1 ranked team they thought they would just walk over Croatia. And when Neymar got the pivotal goal against Croatia they didn't play good defense and just expected to win
Messi and Ronaldo are really legends. Still hope to see them playing together on the same team just for the hell of it
Not gonna happen. They outgrew the financial realities of any club in the world. Acquiring Ronaldo brought Juve to the verge of ruin and Barça is also struggling badly (not because of Messi, though, but paying them _that_ much money surely doesn't help either).
How should one club get them both if getting one of them is nearly impossible for virtually every club out there?
@@lonestarr1490 I think you're right. I think the best bet is if they retire and play some all start match or something. I mean it was just a hope, I don't think it's realistic either
Feel like one they we’ll get to see them play together in a charity game or something. Won’t be the same but I still feel it’ll be amazing
@@lemmonman8994 I was just gonna say the same thing. Or maybe they'll go to the USA (in 3/4 years?!) and play for Becks' Inter Miami?!
Someone should organize an all-star match. A exhibition match.
Neymar maneged to be among the 10 best players in the world playing in Brasil. It shows how great his potencial is. unfornately, the injuries and bad career decisions are resulting in this current scenario
I don't think he was top 10 back then. I guess it depends on the exact season, but during his time at Santos there were many great players at their peak, many of them easily overlooked, like David Villa 2009-2010 season. If we're talking just about 2012-2013, it doesn't look any better. Apart from the obvious players from Barcelona and Real, Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund were absolutely stacked back then, with many players at their peak.
@@TiberiuAlexander Bruh Neymar was considered top 10. He was a goalscoring monster I remember he scored 43 goals in the 2012 season and also 40+ goals in 2010 season
@@RN-km3np I don't know man, I don't think anyone outside Brazil considered him top 10 back then. Potential to be top 10, yes. Actual top 10, no. 2009-2012 was Barcelona at their peak and pretty much everyone on that team was insane.
If we're just talking about goals, they were goals in Brazil. Hell, 2009-10 Suarez scored 49 goals when he was playing for Ajax. There was this guy in Austria, cant remember the name, scored 39 goals in league only for Salzburg. Villa had a year when he was playing for Valencia (could be 2009) when he scored 43 goals for club + country.
And 2012, that was Robben and Ribery at their peaks. And so many other players that people just forget how good they were back then. 2009-10 Sneijder was an absolute monster. It's just hard to imagine Neymar top 10 at that age. I think very few people thought that about him back then. Most people outside Brazil just watched his highlights videos and thought "hey, this kid could be the next Ronaldinho".
@@TiberiuAlexander he was actually 13th on the bollon dor list. I think it's fair for you to question wheter a player could be considerer top 10 playing in Brazil. I'am Brazilian and he was the best player that I've ever seen playing here after Romário.
@@rafaelpeixoto3869 I think it was hard to tell giving the difference in level of competition and exposure. He could have been, but I reckon most people didn't think so back then.
As a Brazilian, I can confidently say it's all about mentality. People admire Neymar's skills but a lot of people hates his personality. Also, Neymar gave multiple signs that he doesn't care about the Ballon d'Or. (Update: I don't hate neymar)
Hes always been a mercenary and has no actual love for football or his country.
He is the epitome of being a bum (not in a talent/skill sense)
@UCjM-5vCRz9lDfZyCDaidpnQ 🤣 you are saying he has no love towards brazil you are 🖕. For Brazil he has more goal +assist ratio than Messi and he is only 29 and Messi is 34 . For his country neymar is doing his best .
@@Unknown-ft9kg They are just jealous of Neymar
@@kenim he is EXTREMELY PASSIONATE FOR BRAZIL 🤣
“A player between eras” is an excellent description of Neymar. He left Barcelona to get out of Messi’s shadow and probably thought he would be Mbappe’s “mentor” for some time, but Mbappe was clearly ready for the world stage without Neymar’s guidance. Neymar is inarguably a ridiculously talented player (full of ego-motivated failings, admittedly), and he’ll have plenty of trophies by the time he retires. But there’s definitely a feeling that with the right timing, better decisions, and a bit of luck, he could’ve been king of the world.
Excellently put.
He's 29 not 36, he still has a few years lol. And Neymar is still obviously a better player than Mbappe. Mbappe has the future, but he won't be at that level for 2-3 years yet.
@@Moosterton Like you said. He still has a few years. That few remaining years will most likely be dominated by Ronaldo/Messi or another Lewandowski-esque year. And when Messi and Ronaldo is out of the shadow, Haaland/Mbappe will rise up and it is too late for Neymar.
@@huydho3173 U dont know any of this lol. Idk how people are so confident that
"it is too late". I don't think it should be controversial to say Neymar is one of the top 5 players in the world, and if he has a great season and psg win the ucl, he'd be a top contendor for balon d'or. That's not an outrageous thing outside the realm of possibility. I think it's less likely that Ronaldo will be up there in the coming years. He's 36, Juve might not even be in the ucl. It's like people here are just pulling narratives out of their butt for no reason
@@Moosterton There's no narratives - just an extremely lucky child who's become too self-absorbed in loving his own legend rather than the sport that's created it.
Neymar isn't a footballer - he just 'plays football'.
If he had any interest in developing further he would've - he has access to -everything-. It's his childish, broken ego and his incessant cowardly approach to the sport and his own career that's kept and forever will keep him away from the Pantheon of the greats.
He's a star fizzled by his own lack of interest in the sport that gave him everything. I really dislike his dismissive, shoulder-shrug attitude, but even Ronaldinho Gaucho in his decline was light years ahead of Neymar at his brightest.
An absolute accurate video. Loved Neymar really, his flair, dribbling and stuff. His attitude doesn't quite Ballon D'Or-ish.
Only because Ronaldo and Messi redefined the standard for winning it. No one compares to them in the world of football yet.
@@fromthefountofyouth no big games performances for PSG, where’s he’s had the flair & skills with the goals to compound that.
You say that but then Michael Owen won it lmao
It is because of Messi and Ronaldo. Forget the attitude, if Nedved can win the Ballon d'or then Neymar surely deserve it. Difference is Nedved played in an era where players had a prime of 2-3 years. Neymar played in an era where players have prime of 10-11 years. Neymar is more of an entertainment, he is not a stat chaser. If Neymar played in 90's or 2000's, he surely would have won it. Players like Neymar are not appreciated in mordern day football.
@@sheahullah8085 modric too
Now here see messi n Ronaldo well over their 30s, scoring almost 30goals this season and still considered as average year for them.. pure legends ❤️❤️
Yes indeed ❤️
🔥🦸♂️
Times have changed. Lewandowski had his best league season this year too - at the age of 32 he scored 41 goals in 28 matches. And so Ibrahimovic still plays on a high level being 39 yo (!!!) (he scored 17 goals and 2 assists in 23 matches! Which means he is still one of the best strikers in the world...)
Well, modern technologies and body awareness will make players play longer and longer.
@@krowaswieta7944 as much as love for lewa.
Messi and Ronaldo are mostly mix. Most of the time they are wingers or CAM.
And have assists too.
@@hbinitials7 Well, Ronaldo was playing as a striker recently.
Anyway, i didn't advocate for Lewandowski to be goat (i mean he was better then them in stats in season 2019/20 and 20/21). But tbh i think Ronaldo doesn't play on his prime level anymore. And well, Lewandowski had 41 goals and 7 assists in 28 matches compared to Ronaldo's 29 goals and had 2 assists in 33 matches. Messi still is a beast though: 30 goals and 11 assists in 35 matches.
So honestly i think it's fair to say that Lewandowski was better previous season in terms of personal performance than those two (i mean statistics). But ye, Messi had to carry his whole team on his shoulders, and because of that i can understand why they want to give him french ball.
Honestly i don't think Copa America should be a factor in any award... It was really painful to watch these matches after seeing how Euro went.
Still, i consider Messi the best player in history.
I know he’s getting crazy money at psg but being recognized amongst the greatest ever players is priceless if you love the game
he doesnt love the game, he loves the money and partying therefore he is on the right place.
His stats are great, he holds a world record transfer. He’s good.
One of the greatest ever... I doubt he'll go down as that.
Among the greatest players? Neymar?
Nope
@@juanjoseph his comment meant Neymar could’ve been among the greatest of all time but he chose money at PSG instead
Imagine playing for nearly ten years behind Messi and Ronaldo's shadow. Two athletes who seemed to not age
It is frustrating
I know, if it wasn’t for those two I would have been world class too
Well maybe if Neymar puts a little bit more effort and fully commits himself throughout the season to be better (not faking injuries, not partying every weekend, not attending the Carnaval and her sister’s birthday, being a real leader and not just a brat) he could actually achieve sth important
Modric did it at 33 years old... Where is Neymar ?
@@bg22757 bruh, nah you don’t even play professionally
@@nadimcydadoohusescodeswivt8001 I played number 10 for Wetherspoons UTD so FU
Ok… valid points and truly heartbreaking. I admire Neymar’s talent so much. I wish he turns this around and shocks the entire world and his critics. He deserves all the accolades before he retires. I believe in his God given abilities.
amen. this is also one thing that i pray to God hahaha i really hope he can make people see how great he is. tho im not sure whether it will happen or not. but i really hope that he can do this
Instead of leaving Barca afraid of being overshadowed by Leo , he should have tried to over come that and learn more from Leo
Yep
That’s exactly what I was thinking to myself when I found out that he had left Barcelona
@@njbrx I'm not a Barca fan, but I was shocked when the move was made official. I remember thinking to myself that the transfer was exactly like Kyrie Irving's move to Boston. Both Irving and Neymar were in a system and team that worked well for them and had a more obvious star leading the team, but both left to become the "focal point" for their new teams. The Neymar move just didn't make sense from the start.
It’s impossible to outshine Messi I think he did the right thing, he had to create he’s own legacy. Even if Neymar did something spectacular at barca people will say Messi is the one carrying the team and don’t give Neymar credit
@@ogwu6732 except you can't outshine Messi by going to a league and a team that people hardly pay attention to. He had to do it at Barça as part of the MSN trio but now he's lost it all. I can't imagine PSG competing as hard in the UCL when Real & Barça set their team up for next seasons with City, Bayern & a rejuvenated Chelsea already in the scene. They barely got past Bayern this year.
His attitude is the prime reason
Has nothing to do with that.
@@youcantcme2 Why not? He rarely is serious. All he wants to do is enjoy and have fun.
Everyone always says his “attitude” like what has this guy done so bad? Joining PSG and fair enough the occasional dive but he doesn’t seem to act anyway on and of the pitch
@@jayanthkumar6309 he's an insane talent, I don't think psg was the best choice but he wanted to be the man. It's just unfortunate timing with messi and ronaldo, he needs a move to Madrid to help his bdo chances.
@@youcantcme2 His egoistic attitude is the reason he left Barcelona
Ok, I'm brazilian. I have finally seen a great argument about Neymar's carreer and his chances to win the Ballon D'or. There is also much hate on him and people always confuse things and evaluate him differently than the others. Yes, he is a magician player and I'm that type of a guy who truly believed and believes that he deserved to be the best player in the world, but this appearences and goals statistics are really important. He actually didn't play as many games as CR7 and Messi during the past seasons. Even though I don't agree that his move to PSG was a mistake, I totally understand the he could have shown more - in and off the pitch. Great analysis. Congrats.
Boa observação!
Certinho
money talks 😎
Nobody watches french league. So it was a mistale ofcourse
Brazilians always announcing they're Brazilian to everyone
People's perception of Neymar is always going to be that of a topper in his class with a very cringy attitude. That's the reason why he never attained a cult-like status in the dimension of the footballing world.
He's the James Harden of football. No one really likes him an always flops and dives and complains about it.
@@runrafarunthebestintheworld I understand the comparison but Harden did much for the game and the shape of the game. What impact does Neymar have? He's fulfilling stereotypes. An extremely talented diva. He's a more focused Ronaldinho.
The least attractive of the most talented players.
@@mrmowjorisin
"A more focused Ronaldinho"
I like that 😂
Accurate lol
He is just unstable in his game, despite being in primer age.
I never understood why people thought he would get overshadowed cause of messi. David villa, theiry Henry and even iniesta and Xavi showed their class playing with messi.
Yes but none of them acheived a ballondor, neymar has also showed his class by playing with messi numerous times, even when messi was absent neymar was there. Neymar is just not going to win ballondor as long as messi is there and thats a fact because messi is the main man in barcelona.
He still overshadowed them bc of Messi fanboys
@@lasttobest8955 winning and playing great football isn’t enough to forwards nowadays. They always gonna aim for a ballon d’or, that’s why they wouldn’t be content with just playing with Messi and winning trophies for the team, their always gonna chase the individual silverware. David Villa and Pedro are great players who didn’t care about individual awards.
@@lasttobest8955 I would argue that this whole 'overshadowed' concept is very misunderstood. The main reason for Neymar Jr's departure was that the game plan of FCB always revolved around Lionel Messi. Their manager(s) always seemed to create a tactic which will give Messi the freedom and space to perform, leaving Neymar as a sideman who is being used for the success of others. Although I personally find this an invalid reason, since Neymar could have outshined everyone in terms of assists, I am not mad on Neymar for doing so.
@@tonysteak9757 yup, messi's playmaker position was never going to be taken away because his talented ofcourse and cause barcelona is already very used to the system having messi at cam. Having neymar on side raises many threats and gives messi way more freedom. Because neymar is very talented and smart on the ball as well. Messi would have always have way more assist than anyone because as you said because of neymar acting as the threat on the side. I would also argue when people said neymar should have stayed to be succesor of messi. I find that invalid because messi is still being amazing at farcelona despite being like 34 yrs old i think, so then neymar would basically be the main man when his like 32? And messi is like 40 something? Neymar was never going to win ballondor in barcelona. I think it was good of him to move from barcelona i just dont know if psg was the right destination
As a Brazilian, it's a shame to see what Neymar has become. I remember him tearing the league apart and making even the best brazilian (and south-american) defenders look like crap. I support a rival team that Neymar destroyed a couple of times, but he was a joy to watch. He gave us hope of better things to come after the "burocratic" Brazilian team in 2010 WC. But I don't feel the same watching him nowadays. He seems to have lost his spark and isn't taking football seriously, much like we've seen with Ronaldinho. Nowadays we hear more about his off field adventures than his on field performance.
It's sad how he's wasting his prime years, just like Isco and Dybala settling for less than their talents
@neph ilim Bale too
lmao, dybala still plays football?? 😂😂😂😂 dybala thght he'd learn with ronaldo, instead, ronaldo made him a bench warmer.
You know ur football bro 😎
Dybala loves Juve so he's fine, i don't think he'd trade his favourite club for personal glory, that's what Italy does to you. But Isco should have come to Barcelona, my man's a culer, just look at him with his FCB shirt in those old pictures. He would have been a good replacement for Xavi with his ridiculous creativity, instead of warming the bench for a 36 year old modric.
You're right. Isco is extremely talented. I wish he'd put in more work to prove his worth.
lewandowski should've won it last year, was a phenomenal season
he should win it this season
Hey mate! The Ballon d'Or 2020 was cancelled last year due to the coronavirus pandemic but it will be awarded this year and Lewandowski will win it!
Yeah ive heard that before
fifa player of the year and ucl player of the year in 2020
HE technically won bro, he received the prize for fifa and its currently the best football player till the next prizes...
honestly, as a brazilian we all know that it is not a problem that he was born "between eras" the problem is that he is a man-child with a father that never told him no and will never have the mental strenght to be the best...that is it
frase de um filho de um conservador que só olha pra estatísticas e não pensa como deve-se pensar diante de livre arbítrio, a questão não é ser mimado ou não dar importância aos títulos, ele simplesmente põe seu prazer como ser humano a frente de simplesmente nomeações, o cara nasceu pra viver por si e não tem nada de errado nisso, muito pelo contrário, manter-se feliz afeta muito no estilo de jogo vívido que o Brasil culturalmente sempre tem e deve continuar tendo, do jeito estúpido que você pensa, o Neymar seria um novo Baggio, um gênio que foi julgado por cometer UM erro, conservar pensamentos ou sentimentos antigos ainda é o principal distúrbio desse país, seja no futebol, seja na política.
@@technobreided6351 Discordo de você. Meu pai sempre me ensinou que devo trabalhar duro para conseguir conquistas na minha vida. Acredito que para merecer algo, devo fazer um trabalho bem feito. Neymar não leva seu trabalho nem seu talento a sério. Sinto que hoje ele só joga pelo dinheiro.
@@WarCat600 Entenda, ele trabalhou duro e conquistou o que bilhões não tem, mas não dá pra viver pra jogar, se você pode e te motiva, então você deve, sabe? Não digo que não se deve trabalhar para conseguir, mas o cara também pode escolher entre ser feliz ou ser 100% destemido, entende?
@@WarCat600 E poxa, falar que o Neymar é um jogador que não faz um bom trabalho é calunioso
@@technobreided6351 Neymar nunca chegou no potencial máximo dele em toda sua carreira de futebol. Ele sempre teve um monstro do futebol dentro dele, e nunca conseguiu liberar ele. Trabalho duro? Não fez. Com 14 anos disse pra professora que não queria estudar que não precisava pq não ia ganhar “Salário merreca de professor”, falta de respeito com uma das profissões mais importantes do mundo. Trabalho duro exemplar é o do Zlatan, 41 anos nas costas, deu tudo pelo futebol e viveu uma vida saudável e boa. O problema não é ir pra festas, problema é não levar trabalho a sério, e isso ele não faz há tempos. Respeito ele, mas se ele não acordar e se dedicar, nunca trará o Hexa para nós. Ainda discordo de você.
Neymar wanted to win the Ballon d'or and went to Ligue 1 😭😭
What’s wrong with league 1 it it better then serie a and Ronaldo plays there?
@@jds997 Ronaldo is 36😂 people often forget that. Neymar went to the french league in his prime. Someone like Mbappe is only using that league as a stepping stone.
@@jds997 ronaldo went to juve after his prime years were over, after winning 5 ballondors, 5 cls....
While neymar on the other hand 😹
@@jds997 league 1 is real farmer league man.
@@abhisinhaa22 I do believe that in last season’s champions league Lyon beat Manchester city and that there was two league 1 sides in the champions league semi finals
Brazilian players in general, specially in modern times, have a reputation for inconsistency and not being able to leave partying behind.
One year they are on top and the next it seems as if their talent or drive to win banished. That has been reflected on the National team too.
To give Neymar some credit he has remained very competitive and the best of his country for a long time, even if he never reached the heights people imagined he should have.
The middle child of football. Big bro (Messi) little bro (Mbappe)
And a Uncle Rico (CR7)
And Father CR7
And grandfather Pele
Amazing to me how people are still finding ways of forcing Ronaldo into conversations, get over it people, you are starting to sound pathetic
Maybe it wasnt quite all Neymar's fault. Messi and Ronaldo has set a whole new best player standard that overcomes every balondor holders in the past and maybe in the long future. Neymar was expected to become the next big thing because people used to believe that Leo and Cristiano would soon fall out after their thirties like every other ballondor holders, but unluckily (or more like luckily), the duo has continued to entertain us till now
Neymar, and not to mention Mbappe Haaland and a host of other younger stars, have a great shot at winning the Ballon d'or but Tifo's choice is the Ivorian international Ibrahim Sangare
lmao
Dead meme 😐
Do you think neymar can win it?He's nearing thirties now.
@@makchot3263 dead comment😐
@@darkgamersupreme2348 that doesn't even make any sense 😐
Honestly that "back injury" was more of an attack to take him out willingly accepting that he might not recover from it at all. I remember the game. Some guy basically jump-kicked him into the spine, which, unsurprisingly, resulted in a fracture. That could have well paralyzed him for life.
I don't think it was a result of worse fitness or so compared to Messi/Ronaldo, just bad luck. There were obviously other injuries that i know less about but that one had nothing to do with him.
If his sister asked him to win the Ballon D’or I reckon he’d win it in the next 2 years!
Yea 😂😆
"win the Ballon D'Or and we can bang"
Lol
@@imamoronand9199 lol
LMFAO Fuckin savage!!
1 of the dislikes is from his sister.
Underrated comment
The rest are from his toiss buddies
It’s in their contract
Oof
You mean his Girlfriend?
i look a neymar and think: "what if he took himself as seriously as CR7"? i mean i have always grown up with the idea that the one who works the hardest, deserves the best. Thats why i always put CR7 first, i cant thnk of anyone who puts so much time in taking care of himself as Ronaldo. I think Neymar is a better naturally giftet footballer than CR7, but Ronaldo works harder to become better
It's a fact actually neymar is more god gifted than cr7 and equally as messi but to some point I think it's because of the rivalry that they have reached the level they kept on working hard to compete that the other dosent comes first
They are born on the same day as well you’d swear they’d share mindsets
hardwork vs talent
No offense but I've always hated this argument with Ronaldo. Him and messi are some of the hardest working and naturally gifted footballers.
@@Gio102897 yeah? I never mentioned Messi in this argument.... Me who prefers Ronaldo over anyone still think Messi is a better footballer. But i prefer Ronaldo
Because the moment the Ballon'Dor touches Neymar, he'll start rolling on the floor all the way from France to Brazil.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hahaha
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This joke is very outdated and sounds cringy
@@RN-km3np cant be outdated if he still keeps doing it
Dude just got to stay healthy a whole season and win a ucl
Not only UCL, he has to win the doublet, Ligue 1 and UCL. And if that year happens to be one of international competition, he has to win it as well (Copa América or World Cup)
@@bobmendoza2450 nah, you trippin. Messi and Ronaldo have like 0 chance of winning another UCL in their current declining teams, so as long as he wins Champions league and puts up great performances in the tournament, he's for sure getting that Ballon d'or.
@@immigratoclandestino6259 Winning titles does help but to an extent you have to be the star of your team Ronaldo didnt win nothing 2013 but he won it bcus he was absolutely marvelous I dont get that vybe from neymar and juve have a good team talented players it kinda reminds me of ajax but there needs to be better management Ronaldo ain't built for that defensive tactics the Italian managers use he needs zidane that whole team needs zidane and Barca needs Somebody like Mourinho that would transform that team and bring them back on top Koeman could go back Sunderland he's no good for Barca
Neymar might play as a false 9 this season, so he may get more goals.
Messi is coming to PSG
With Modric (33) and Benzema (35) getting one late on in their careers, I think Neymar could also do the same. Although he would have to get lucky with a good World Cup run, or Mbappe and Haaland to have a bit of a down season.
Mbappe and Haaland would be hard to expect. They're going to their peak RN. He should either bring Brazil to final or won UCL
it would be nice to see him win it at least once.. the '14 WC was cruel to Brazil although Germany proved to everybody they deserved it. Neymar has definitely marked the beginning of a social media craze, whether it is his flair, his hairstyle, attitude, shoes and more recently contractural headlines, and being a player between eras - it would just be nice to see him hold the Ballon d'Or for the people and fans.. thank you for the amazing video
you mean his total absence of hair style
Discipline is so important in literally anything.
unpopular opinion : I think Neymar reached Messi and CR7's level between 2014 and 2017. Of course he had less goals but that's because he wasn't in the center of his team unlike them but on the other stats he was clearly at their level if not better some years (dribble, assists, key passes, cross, dual win, etc.) and he was relevant during big games, sometimes even more than them.
Unfortunatly, like said in this video, popularity and campaign for the ballon d'or is more important than the true level. I remember so many games were Neymar was the true hero of Barca but every newspaper had Messi on their first page.
Of course I'm not saying that he was stolen a Ballon d'Or (whatever it means), just that in term of pur capacity, he was similar to them during that period. Unfortunatly passed 2017 he was to frequently injured too obtain it.
i disagree, maybe only 2015 neymar had that great level. he is a player who not afraid from big games, but he misses too much passes and plays compared to them both, and isnt consistent in scoring, wich implies he not that good in puting himself in the right place and/or shooting
In terms of ballon d'or, messi and Ronaldo are overrated af
He still is amazing at dribbles, assists, dual wins and all those things
@@biomatricbrothers9946 overated? 😂
Pretty detailed. I must admit, when I saw the title I assumed it was going to be one of those Neymar rant videos but this really did change nh perspective. Great job as always Tifo!
The issue as I see it with Neymar is that he never had someone tell him what Mino riola told zlatan, "sell all your cars and concentrate on football". Neymar has been in the public eye since he was a teenager and let that part of his life overshadow his football. He could have skipped the cameo in xxx-the return of Xander cage.
Also in Money Hiest😂😂
Zlatan's the only player till date who I believe should have achieved way more & including a Ballon D'or. Had it all but again , luck plays an important role .
@@realog868 not just a matter of luck but also his image. People didn’t want to see someone like ibrahimovic win an such important award.
@@gmentertainmenttv9312 indeed , changing teams again & again too .
@@gmentertainmenttv9312zlatan never have ballon dor level season
“A player between eras” couldn’t have put it better myself
Wow. This had got to be the best piece of writing on the channel. Kudos to the people involved. 👏👏
Man said Felix, Sancho and Fati with a straight face 😭😭😭
I laughed out loud. You couldn't have picked a worse line-up🤣 Could've picked Vini, Bellingham, Valverde, Rashford, Saka, Musiala, Pedri, Gavi and my man picks the 3 players who failed their expectations the most🤣🤣
@@iLeetjeehbro it was 2 years ago for example Haaland wasn’t a city player,Fati even injured was better than Vini (at the time he was very inconsistent) Sancho was great,had seasons such as 20+ goals and 20+ assists (the only in Europe back then to do so with Messi)
Expectations about him were always bigger than his real performance. A few flashes of genious here and there but as many brazilian players he lacks the discipline and mentality to display his talent in a regular basis and support his ambitions. And thats especially essential in the Messi-Ronaldo era. These two are beasts, have an enormous talent but also an undeniable strong work ethic. They put football first and live for it and for that reason their performances have been always constant and over the top. Neymar only cares about fame and money and is a toxic element in any club. Football is a team sport and his ego is not a good mix to achieve success.
It makes me sad that forwards are the only players really considered these days. The defenders that shut them down just get ignored because they're not as flashy or standout
Wdym didn’t van djk come 3rd in the ballon dor
I don’t think any defender since Cannavaro was dominant enough to justify a Ballon D‘or. Ramos was always overhyped because he is so freaking dangerous as a scorer but tbh his defending has never been elite. The only one who came close to a Ballon D‘or Level was VvD, but he played on this level only for a very short amount of time.
The problem may also be that the defenders aren’t really able to stand out of themselves. If you asked people about the best defender in the world you could have gotten many answers the past few years, there is nobody like the Messi&Ronaldo Duo who were just better than anybody else.
It doesn’t make a big difference wether you have Ramos, Thiago Silva, Hummels, Boateng, Godin, VvD, Lahm, Varane or Chiellini in their prime because they’re just to close to each other. Probably i even forgot some players
@@basti2955 well I feel even cannavaro dosen't much deserve the ballon d or there have been better defenders than him like maldini baresi in the past he just won because his team won WC that year
@@indronilganguly9715 Cannavaro was the best and most dominant player in world cup 2006, i sadly dont know much about club performances that time. But what he did at the world cup has never been done again since then and its not even close. I think he deserved it but tbh there hasnt been a player like prime ronaldo or messi at that time.
I've assumed that as youths the fastest most athletic players are placed at forward, not defense. Even Bale, who started at defense for 1st team Hotspurs, was pushed to forward. When teams constantly push the best players out of the defense, the remaining defenders are always going to look "weaker" than the players they have to defend. The only athletically stunning defender I can think of right now is Wan-Bissaka, and he still has a couple more years to go to develop into a dominant defender. I've heard the Italians traditionally prioritized defense, so I assumed they kept their best athletes on defense instead of pushing them to forward. But in the English game, you have that English manager who laughed at Liverpool's transfer price for VvD exemplifying the English attitude toward defense, i.e., "why would you spend that much money on a defender?" a.k.a. "improving your defense is for losers." Just think what Wegner's last few years at Arsenal could have been if he had gotten 4 great defenders (since Arsenal left their 4 defenders alone with massive areas to defend). They would have continued to score absolutely beautifully worked out goals and not have given up mind-boggling easy goals due to astoundingly bad defending.
Imo he made the wrong career choice while moving to PSG and he was unfortunate to exist in the era of arguably the two greatest players to ever live.
Wrong career choice? PSG has been in last CL final and this year's semis defeating Messi's barca and bayern. He will have more shot at winning CL with PSG than any other clubs.
@@dhruvrawat0 PSG is finished, failed project
@@dhruvrawat0 How? Real,Barca,Bayern,Man City,Chelsea and even Juventus might have more chance at winning UCL
Of course he was unfortunate, but that's the same for all others too. Neuer,Van dijk,Suarez,Lewandowski,Robben,Xavi,Iniesta, even Bale could have won Ballon dor if Messi and Ronaldo weren't there
Dhruv Rawat Definitely true, but a lot of PSG’s recent successes have been due to Mbappe’s excellence. So kind of proves the point that for a Ballon D’Or Neymar might’ve been better off elsewhere.
"A prince who couldn't be king"
Perfect to describe him
A prince who didn't want to work hard enough to be a king
Besides what was said in the video, it really is the environment around him too that hindered neymar. The players around him, and his injuries are largely to blame to the constant knocks and clashes he goes against when defenders slide in to take him out. It’s really unfortunate to not see him at his full potential
"... and that's of course, without considering the candidacy of players like our choice, Ibrahim Sangaré" - Tifo
Talent ,skills , hardwork may at best secure One Ballon d'or
But to win it multiple times , Discipline + Commitment + Consistency is needed
Thanks Cristiano & Messi for teaching us this life lesson
What he did to Haaland last season explains it all. Maybe if he could correct his childish behaviors and mature a little, then he might stand a chance one day.
True
You guys are so boring. Wtf is wrong with a little taunting, Haaland made a post saying “my city” when he landed in Paris. Neymar replied by copying his celebration and knocked him out. Ronaldo has copied simeone’s celebration too after scoring a hatrick to knock atletico out. Messi copied Ronaldo’s celebration when he took off his shirt and showed the back with his name to the crowd. Why do you want footballers to be robots? And why are you treating it differently when Neymar is the one that does it.
@@Junior-zf7yy Simeone is a 50 year old grandpa
Haaland is a kid
@@christianopulinaldo8319 lmao, so its wrong to treat him like a MAN ? its like "oh my little baby haaland taunted me? how cute he are" now am I more mature than neymar right ???????????
@@christianopulinaldo8319 ..... isn’t it more embarrassing that a 50 year old and 34 year old were busy doing thrust movements on the pitch in that case? There’s nothing wrong with taunting lmao.
Can't wait for Mbappe and Haaland to battle for that crown. Interesting and more enjoyable future of football is ahead.
Foden will be having words with Mbappe
They probably never will
Foden will be a bigger name than Mbappe or Haaland in the coming years. You saw it here first
@@Aniissshhhh he will be big but not bigger IMO. Pep calls him stoke port iniesta, and I think that’s a reasonable forecast for his career. Even now KDB aka by far the best attacking midfielder isn’t exactly bigger than Lewandowski and Salah/neymar, which is where I see haaland and Mbappe end up
I wouldn't say more enjoyable. From the 2000s to about 2018 football was incredibly entertaining with so many great players. Like let's take 2014 for example, in the world at that single year the amount of world class players was crazy now it's like meh. I think this whole generation is a transitioning period
Neymar's way of playing is so beautiful. Its like he is performing or dancing. I love watching him play because it brings back what made football so exciting and fun to watch growing up with players like Ronaldo (9) and Ronaldhino. He doesnt get respect from the public and in my opinion other players dont respect him. He is accused of diving (i know he can be dramatic) but if you watch replays of players tackling him, they really do it viciously and many times it seems they do it on purpose. Other big players dont get tackled in the same way. So he can't be blamed for the injuries. Also the position he plays has a lot to do with how much he scores. He creates opportunities for others. For me, when assessing a player, we should look at the player as a whole and not just how much they score.
Next from Tifo: *Why Ibrahim Sangare will definitely win the Ballon d'Or*
Lewandowski deserves it far and away this year no one else comes close
You cannot count messi out this year fo sure
Man's been mental in 2021
@@DanCantBeBanned pessi fan boy detected
@@aryo_1582 Lewandowski fanboy detected
@@christianopulinaldo8319 the living comment section legend detected 😂
Stop being a clown. What he said is true. Messi has genuinely been a monster in 2021
I've always had the feeling that Neymar could be right up there with Messi and Ronaldo. Can't explain why. It's just a feeling. Perhaps I sense his talent. But he was never going to reach messi and ronaldo's heights without mirroring their dedication.
Compulsive self- improvement
Singular focus
Determination never to leave the pitch.
🔥🔥🔥
Really hope Lewandowski wins this year, he’s really deserved one these past two years!
He has to prove himself on a better league
@@joemarkose1590 he was top scorer in champions league last year
And 2nd in assists and scored in last 16 quarter final and semi final
He has to earn it
He has a lot of people in Bayern to provide goals for him. I am not saying that he is bad. Messi is most likely to win the ballon d'Or this season
I am a barca fan but lewa winning ballon d'Or is the best thing. He deserves atleast one ballon d'Or.
Lewa or messi. Others don't deserve it
Neymar still looks and acts like a teenager. He never grew up.
LMAO, I would be mad too if I get tackled all the match without the referee doing any sh*t
@@h3w45 That'd be the forward's life.
Looks like a teen, but isn't. He's only god 5-6 yrs more to play. with ronaldo and Messi playing for 2-3 yrs more, He's only got 3 yrs max without messi and ronaldo playing. Till then, mbappe and haaland will dominate football, Again he'll be way past the eras.
@@JakePeraltaaa99 lol Mbappe?? Haaland? They are not even close to Neymar's, R7 or Messi league at the same age. It's easier to believe some new Brazilian, Italian or Argentinian will appear to steal the show. Mbappe isn't that good, he isn't a football genius or someone who can carrie a team. Neymar is carrying the brazilian national team for years. By the way, France national team isn't even French
Yes, because you know him personally.
Pathetic.
The same way people mocked Oscar for going to China as he was using the money to build houses for everyone in his hometown.
Sorry do not result to personal insults when you do not know someone personally
It makes you look pathetic
Neymar not winning a Ballan D'or and Messi not winning an international trophy by the end of their respective careers seems injustice to their talent and legacy but at the same time pretty much realistic at this point of time . 😔
Edit: Messi won Copa America 🙏🙏❤
Maybe if he stops diving he'll win it
@@navrajsingh9719 Salty
In Messi's defence, the Argentine FA are terrible
Argentina can win the Copa America this summer or next time but you're perfectly right
Puskas also never won an international trophy with his country, so it's not like they'll have no company
Neymar definitely used to not take his talent as seriously as he should have in the earlier years at PSG but in the last few seasons he’s definitely sharpened up and committed more the only problem is all those injuries that keep happening to him but even with all that being said I still think he can commit more and PSG need more from him and I think if he worked as hard as Cristiano and Messi I feel like he could be up there with them and have those kinds of numbers now that he’s signed a new deal I guess we’ll see what happens
when he signed with PSG he RETIRED.
he can't, its impossible. this philosophy of working hard is good for capitalists to exploit our sweat and nothing more. the guy clearly doesnt have what it takes to be #1, he doesnt have the body to achieve this goal and that's all, you may find it cruel, but giving hope to hopeless attempts is the cruelest of things.
4:55 this pretty sums up the condition too, besides being 'a player between two eras' he is also not up for the competition where the qualification is more than just skill and naturally gifted talent, you need to work hard and have the guts to win.. And that's what both Messi and Ronaldo did that makes them sit on another level
He may not win the ballon d'or but he is enjoying life. Living the dream. He may want to win something for the team though to make him a legend in the club.
This is exactly what the people don’t get!
I think it didn’t help for Neymar that the hype for him coming from Brazil was so loud that by the time he arrived in Europe we were bound to think he was overrated. When he came from Santos to Barca the talk was that he would almost immediately displace Messi and was not just Leo but Pele’s natural heir. That first season and then the 2014 WC while he was adjusting to Europe and Stardom were then very underwhelming
i never hyped him. way inferior than ronaldos and kaká.
I think if he actually stays fit to play a full season he could still win. I think he's definitely more talented that Mbappe IMHO. If PSG can win a CL and Neymar stays healthy he can win it. I don't think he'll ever reach the heights of Messi or Ronaldo but nobody else will either that's not Neymar's fault
Super Gigi never got that "award". Andrea Pirlo same story. Both of them redefined their role and raised the bar but never scored 50 goals a year (what became dominantly the biggest thing that counts).
Its a shame but also reflects society as a whole: it has all developed to a superficial lifestyle.
Still some fans compare him to Messi Ronaldo. They have 11 ballon d'ors and they play for it every second. Where this guy is like that insanely talented kid who never grew up.
@@hououinkyouma5033 Lol, don't compare this guy with Ronaldinho, Ronaldinho didn't had the medical advantages this guy has now.
A player between eras is a really nice sentence here. I believe there are quite a few players who would fit in that category, Paulo Dybala immediately came to mind. would be an interesting topic of discussion, how big a role does timing hold in how big a footballer one can become.
Very nice watch. I've always felt there were plenty of parallels between him & Kyrie Irving...
"Mbappe is younger, more socially concious, and has a direct, devastating style of play"
that aged well didnt it
thats still true I mean
what do you mean that aged well? Are you judging him on one penalty miss
Mbappé is a diver and he doomed his own team when they needed him the most.
One bad tournament doesn’t ruin his potential. You guys are so reactionary.
He's 22 and had one bad tournament and y'all are ready to call him trash. I swear, people these days...
“Joao Felix,adon sancho, and ansu fati,” lmao that didn’t age well
Neymar was a star in Brazil since he was a kid always labelled the "Chosen one" and in 2014 it seemed like he could fulfill that destiny that if we're being honest was not a destiny he chose for himself and when that injury against Colombia happened it meant his destiny was gone forever and ever since a sense of self-entitlement crept in and he has not been able to shake it off
I always think goals per game scored is a great measure of an attacker's potency. It's not what I would use to sign a player, since an injured player is no good to a team, but as a fan, Neymar's injury record does not detract from how great he is when he is on the field. Plus... at what price beauty? The way he plays is extraordinary.
It's pretty obvious. He joined the sport during the time of Ronaldo and Messi. Not only that for much of his time he played alongside talents bigger than himself. He feeds those bigger talents, and scoring goals will always be worth more than setting up the goal. Then you get into the issue, that players like Messi, or Mbappe, don't need Neymar to help them. He's unfortunately been placed in the trap of playing for high profile clubs with the greatest players in the world, and not being the center piece of those clubs. If he was a striker, and not a winger he would be talked about differently. Also the crying and pretending you broke your ankle doesn't help either.
Next video on Man city Vs Chelsea UCL final pls
He was always after glamour. To be the best, he needed to have a tough and disciplined mentality like Messi, CR7, Zidane etc. Even R9 partied a lot, but on the field he never did diving theatrics. Now in late 20s and early 30s, players like KDB and Lewandowski are far more reliable than him.
I Will Still Take Neymar Rather Than KDB And Lewandowski Because Neymar Is The Wild Card In A Match...
I feel like excpectations could be a part of it too, you know. I mean, neymar comes from a country which traditionally has had a lot of great players. And, you can't only critique neymar after a Pelé, for example. Brazil has had a host of great players, like ronaldinho gaucho, ronaldo lima , romario, just to name a few . At least on the national team, you can't excpect him to win 1, 2 or 3 world cups. That was only possible for pelé, but Pelé played for some of the greatest brazilian national teams though. Anyways, neymar will always be a brazilian great who might not have lived up to the hype of some . But he is brazilian after all, its not that easy being a Brazilian playing for Brazil, knowing their history.
Could have been the successor of Messi in Barcelona.... Neymar playing style is similar to Messi and he is the best dribbler in the world after Leo... surely Messiwould have helped him to win the Ballon Dor
exactly, I feel like had he been messi's successor he could have definitely won it in his 30s.. shame he couldn't be patient. Even if PSG win the CL now it surely will go to Mbappe, unless neymar has a 15 goal CL campaign or something
Hazard is/was the 2nd best dribbler in the world after leo
No not possible i think without messi he would have done anything shit with this team and even if he and messi would have won together messi would have got the ballon d or
@@gokulkanna9180 🧢🧢🧢
"He never had the makings of a ballon d'or athlete" 😆
Small feet, that's his problem.
Marone 😂
Uncle Paulie😂
Omar little
_"Very observed, the sacred and the propane!"_
Lmao.
Aged like the finest wine ever
I remember telling my friend this in 2016 and here we are.
Every point said in the video is correct. It suits for Eden hazard as well.but a point to be added is that half or even more than half of the goals kylian mbappe scored are because of neymar.his assists,passes and vision is so good .bad luck that he will never win a ballon d'or.if injuries had not troubled him he would have scored atleast had 150 goals and have 100 assists for psg by now because he has now got 81 goals and 55 assists in such limited appearances which is insane😲😲
You can same the same about Mbappe, they obviously completed each other and are a deadly duo but Neymar is getting up there with age and his lack of discipline will have him with more injuries than he would like.
This video broke my heart. It's sad to see such talent not being fully utilised.
A must video on How Thomas Tuchel transformed Chelsea, tifo.
Wow, this video only came out today and there's already 1,171 comments. That's Neymar for you..
and obviously Tifo's ability to create brilliant, thought-provoking, well-illustrated videos that get to the heart of popular talking points and more obscure stories.
Right to the point! "A player between eras". Greetings from Brazil.
neymar is a busy person. his sister always celebrate her birthday every month so he needs to come to the party.
Family bussines xD
“Rumours have persisted too of him being indulged by”
Thought he was going to say “his sister” to be honest...
This aged like wine. 👌
Ansu Fati will be a long term occupant of the summit? He's had half a decent season and now three leg surgeries
He is great but as a barca fan, I am afraid his career at Barcelona will degrade bcoz of poor management of club
@@maynkrajora1848 LaPorta will make barca great again 😊
@@SleepyVenom1 Yes, starting with sacking of Koeman then Barca's world class defender who currently start the game.
He simply doesn't deserve.
The fact the video is 2 years old and has reached 1 million subscribers, shows what kind of prediction it was from Tifo Football. Now in 2023 Neymar left Europe and join Saudi pro League. He may not won ballondor in his career but won multiple individual awards and team trophy. Hope he enjoy his career in Al Hilal.
Don’t forget FODEN.
The kid is 20 and already shows the biggest possible balls out there against crazy top teams such as PSG themselves.
Foden is far from Mbappé and Håland. Man City won because another talente players like De Bruyne and Gundogan. Foden is actually some Tottenham level os player
@@joshwashington7655
I think I get your point. That being said, I feel like you’re significantly underrating FODEN’s skill. To some extent, your point could apply to M’BAPPÉ too, the guy literally plays with Neymar and VERRATTI, DI MARÍA, etc...
I get you, though, but please try and be fair to FODEN too. Benching STERLING and taking over SANE’s spot isn’t exactly easy for any player on the planet and he’s killing it right now.
@@joshwashington7655 actually Foden was the one who scored the winning goal in both matches against Dortmund, he drew the foul that led to Mahrez's winner against PSG first leg, and assisted vs PSG second leg. And if you watched any of the games you'd know besides that stuff he was one of their best players
@@joshwashington7655 lol man u trippin, Fode is the greatest hot prospect out there rn
I have a feeling 10 years from now, Foden will be the Iniesta and Haaland and Mbappe will be CR7 and Messi.
The latter two will always be regarded as the top footballing stars, but understand as well that Foden is simply magical.
Neymar: “I left Barca to join PSG to finally be number one.”
Messi and Mbappe: 😂😂
Excellent video. There's no doubt he's incredibly skilled, but it's tough to respect a sportsman who doesn't respect their own talent.
As a Neymar fan I hope he watches this Video and get some motivation for at least 1 season........
😂
Who told you he isn’t motivated?
Neymar is finished. You heard it first from me. And by finished I mean he'll become irrelevant from next season. He's past his prime
@@lavishramchandani4650 Idiot
Good joke! The chances that this player cares about football outside the 90 minutes of a game are very small...