Messi vs Ronaldo: A 21st Century story

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  • Messi vs Ronaldo: A 21st Century story
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    It is a rivalry that has been heightened by our reliance on social media.
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  • @chinmaysingh6787
    @chinmaysingh6787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4206

    "Messi is an agile dribbler while Ronaldo is a prolific goalscorer, however our pick is Ibrahim Sangare"

  • @hamzasafeer
    @hamzasafeer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2824

    we are so lucky to be alive in this era of Messi-Ronaldo

    • @CutItOff
      @CutItOff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Altogether brother

    • @mufasa8287
      @mufasa8287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Copied comment

    • @hamzasafeer
      @hamzasafeer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mufasa8287 what?

    • @runrafarunthebestintheworld
      @runrafarunthebestintheworld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Copy paste comment every time a Messi vs Ronaldo debate comes up.

    • @runrafarunthebestintheworld
      @runrafarunthebestintheworld 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hamzasafeer It's obvious you're saying the same thing everyone else ever says when a Messi vs Ronaldo comparison video pops up.

  • @ghouls6666
    @ghouls6666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1478

    They both wanted to be on par with the legendary Ibrahim Sangare

    • @drblastboi-f2pplayer269
      @drblastboi-f2pplayer269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      lol tifo vibes

    • @rizzz___
      @rizzz___ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      "Both Ronaldo and Messi are the best on their game, whoever our pick is: Ibrahim Sangare"

    • @paramchavan9872
      @paramchavan9872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I signed the great Sangare for Man Utd but he failed the Work Permit

    • @lewismoses8712
      @lewismoses8712 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @PietreADI so the Spanish, British and Italian media are in Africa India and Arabia....wow I didn't know..thanks for the info😄

    • @nikhil796
      @nikhil796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lingard is the best

  • @jamesmichaels4979
    @jamesmichaels4979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +701

    Messi and Ronaldo become managers. Their rivalry intensifies.
    Another 20 years of luxury.

    • @olifedererrmurray
      @olifedererrmurray 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      you restored hope to me

    • @theodorebouchet321
      @theodorebouchet321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Except I've seen an interview of Ronaldo where he says he's not interested in becoming a manager after he retires

    • @tinyrick4969
      @tinyrick4969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Why would a billionaire want to be a football manager 😂😂😂

    • @danyalyalta8269
      @danyalyalta8269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@tinyrick4969 because he is in love with the game ?

    • @user-tb9qj5cl2d
      @user-tb9qj5cl2d 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @Football Mania it doesn't matter, Cruyff is may be the best manager of all time and Maradona is the worst manager I've seen in my life.

  • @soliatv1038
    @soliatv1038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1762

    The greatest rivalry in the history of football. Two GOATs living in the same era. We might not see any football rivalry like this again I swear. ENJOY while it lasts. The GOATs of FOOTBALL.

    • @samoso6979
      @samoso6979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Wasn’t really a rivalry but fair enough

    • @bolingoli6371
      @bolingoli6371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We *WILL*

    • @soliatv1038
      @soliatv1038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bolingoli6371 yess. We WILL!!! 👍🏻

    • @erebus7205
      @erebus7205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@samoso6979 Patrick Vieira VS Roy Keane, now thats a proper rivalry

    • @runrafarunthebestintheworld
      @runrafarunthebestintheworld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@erebus7205 yep I can agree with that too.

  • @WakaWaka2468
    @WakaWaka2468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +869

    I was born in 2000. The absolute perfect age to grow up watching them. I've never known a world without Messi or Ronaldo being the best in the world. They've just been there all throughout my life.

    • @albinjohnsson2511
      @albinjohnsson2511 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

      Tbh, you’re a bit too young. It was really enjoyable to watch their debuts and see them rise. I’m 7 years older than you, and I was still just a kid when they arrived at the scene, so to speak. You can’t remember anything from their first years, you were only like 2 years old!.

    • @rajaijaz007
      @rajaijaz007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      1995 here, to have them both at their prime in my teenage years is even more special.

    • @stevetheiii477
      @stevetheiii477 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@albinjohnsson2511 that just speaks to their sheer dominance in this century and are still going, i only started watching messi in 2015 and i feel like i've known him my whole life

    • @kylejanse2632
      @kylejanse2632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@stevetheiii477 Mate, you shoulda seen him under Guardiola

    • @Cram960
      @Cram960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ahh mate I think you're like 40 or 50 years old, liam gallagher was definitely not born in 2000

  • @247Albin
    @247Albin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +858

    I started watching Premier league in 2004. That's when we got satellite TV. At that time Cristiano was just a prospect who came from Portugal who was a good dribbler. 4 years later he went on to win his first Ballon D'or. That evolution of him from a prospect to being one of the best players in the world was really a beautiful thing to witness

    • @aamirahmed025
      @aamirahmed025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Same with me brother

    • @AnujithCAmbadi
      @AnujithCAmbadi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same here as well.

    • @makuojinanwa
      @makuojinanwa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @PietreADI Do better

    • @youtubeisnotajob4103
      @youtubeisnotajob4103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @PietreADI I'm an indian and none of the people ik, fight about it
      Stereotyping is natural, but don't impose it

    • @highnoon7097
      @highnoon7097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @PietreADI ahh I know the ones. The sort of cretins that call Ronaldo "penaldo" and his fans "Madridiots". Then you get the counter-argument calling Messi fans "barka dogs". I don't get why they can't just enjoy both players. Why limit yourself to liking just one player.? I think it sums up how tribal and stupid the general human population is. It's an instinct to pick one allegiance and stick to it in spite of all logic.

  • @crimsonglory7823
    @crimsonglory7823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1372

    "Grandpa, who are Messi and Ronaldo?"
    Me : *tears in my eyes* sit down son, let me tell you a story.

    • @usxnews1834
      @usxnews1834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      *whips out ibrahim sangare sticker book*

    • @SatyamSingh0702
      @SatyamSingh0702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Zzz Chill When you know your fav player who have won a world cup still considered an average player....
      Whereas messi and Ronaldo are goat without a world cup...
      Understand your pain mate.... nobody respect your fav player even after winning a world cup....not his fault..
      Afterall this is messi Ronaldo era.... nobody even comes close

    • @kod3executioner523
      @kod3executioner523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Ad a Bayern fan this would be me: grandpa who are Lewandowski, Neuer Kimmich and Boateng, me sit down son I’m going to tell you a great story.
      Of course I know Messi and Ronaldo are overall better so don’t argue with me, although lewy is the best in the world at the moment

    • @lotuseater7247
      @lotuseater7247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      would you call them son if you were their grandpa?

    • @abhisinhaa22
      @abhisinhaa22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Copied comment but Old is gold

  • @shrimpsquad3956
    @shrimpsquad3956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +546

    I've never seen Messi or Ronaldo play live in the stadium, and I really hope I can before they retire

    • @KaitlynFedrick
      @KaitlynFedrick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I have and honestly it was incredible experience

    • @shrimpsquad3956
      @shrimpsquad3956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@KaitlynFedrick I bet

    • @ruckfules9441
      @ruckfules9441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Being a diehard Messi fan I was lucky enough to watch cr7 against spurs at the international friendly in Singapore last year. It was electric when he scored. Unforgettable experience. I hope I can watch Messi too someday before he retires.

    • @KaitlynFedrick
      @KaitlynFedrick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@ruckfules9441 The game I saw was Barca vs Celta at the Camp Nou - I was behind the goal when Messi did the layoff penalty to Suarez

    • @thomasr5302
      @thomasr5302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I was lucky enough to see Barça beat Huesca 8-2. Messi scored twice, but that wasn’t what made his performance so special. He played the game like a puppeteer, with every player, and the ball, on the end of strings. He was completely in control from kick off to final whistle, conducting the game like an orchestra. I have never seen anyone play like that, and I don’t know if I ever will again. I can’t compare him to Pele or Maradona or Ronaldo or Cruyff, because I never witnessed them, but I am a Premier League season ticket holder and have seen pretty much every player in the country over the past 10 years, and if you took De Bruyne and Gerrard and Lampard and Bale and Salah and every other player to grace this country, and put them all together into one player, they wouldn’t be half the player that Lionel Messi is.

  • @Giantzz
    @Giantzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +568

    Messi and Ronaldo originally appeared on The Athletic

    • @runrafarunthebestintheworld
      @runrafarunthebestintheworld 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      😅

    • @kushagrachandra6199
      @kushagrachandra6199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @PietreADI A very specific group of people you've picked there I see.

    • @adilmohammed6897
      @adilmohammed6897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@kushagrachandra6199 Mostly only Europeans and Americans say that

    • @dixoncider8372
      @dixoncider8372 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kushagrachandra6199 and the accurate group. Americans are focused on the MJ-Jordan debate to bicker about Messi and Ronaldo

    • @leeducationjames5558
      @leeducationjames5558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@dixoncider8372 nigga MJ and jordan are the same person💀

  • @danielalexsalazar333
    @danielalexsalazar333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +638

    I'm just gonna leave this here
    Jess Lingardino: 1 premier league goal 2019
    Ronaldo: 0
    Messi: 0
    Pele: 0
    Maradona: 0
    Facts don't lie people

    • @Chigz10
      @Chigz10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Wow comedic genius, did you think of that yourself?

    • @Football_Unlimited
      @Football_Unlimited 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He's just jealous

    • @AA-nf5ns
      @AA-nf5ns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      -claps- woah best joke of 2020 this is so original woahhh

    • @cameronjones8641
      @cameronjones8641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hilarious! There is too little humour on TH-cam chat, spot on 👍🏼

    • @samuelbiswas615
      @samuelbiswas615 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well

  • @arbnorbalaj5277
    @arbnorbalaj5277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Too early for flying cars
    Too late to see man go to the moon
    Just in time to see Messi and Ronaldo play

    • @damiengoh9232
      @damiengoh9232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im pretty sure the original is
      Born too late to explore the earth
      Yet born too early to explore the galaxy

  • @michaelmatt9752
    @michaelmatt9752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    I think most people have matured when it comes to this debate. We've learned to respect them both as they are equal in greatness. Well at least that's how I see them.

    • @bitik9847
      @bitik9847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes
      Penaldo is better 👍
      Cause he have better body

    • @masoodgh1131
      @masoodgh1131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @javialacarga Ronaldo is like a successful businessman and Messi is like a genius artist

    • @axel2626
      @axel2626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @God is Here winger, false nine, play maker, O Midfilder.... please feel
      guilty then

    • @axel2626
      @axel2626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @God is Here messi has no legacy? Omg these fan boys shine easily.
      He scores more goals than ronaldo in average in what way ronaldo is better than him, please argue with arguments next time, thanks

    • @axel2626
      @axel2626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @God is Here and midfildier doesn't mean play maker, if not you can ask kante, casemiro, busquets, henderson, wijnaldum, etc.

  • @vb2388
    @vb2388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    The Men Who Stare At GOATs..
    Lol, love that 😂

    • @willherondale6367
      @willherondale6367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ikr, cracked me up

    • @DDazzle1
      @DDazzle1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Radiohead, MF DOOM, Messi, Aphex Twin, in that order

  • @marimar1093
    @marimar1093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +412

    I think one of my biggest gripes with the Messi vs Ronaldo thing is how the respective camps can't settle for highlighting and uplifting their own 'GOAT' but must simultaneously degrade and abuse the other player. Just because I think Messi is a more unique and naturally gifted player doesn't detract from my amazement of Ronaldo

    • @deven9565
      @deven9565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or even Neymar, Hazard etc

    • @kolalawal268
      @kolalawal268 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is how it works bros.

    • @joelmacinnes2391
      @joelmacinnes2391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Yeah. I think messi is the goat, but Ronaldo is in my opinion top 5 of all time. I think Ronaldo has has the nest career silverware wise, and he scores a lot of goals (a lot of tap ins and pens mind) but messi has such good dribbling skills (he has made so many good runs over the years) he also had such clinical bottom corner finishes from range. Neither won the WC but that doesn't matter cause neither had good national teams. Also messi has such good vision and can assist from insane ranges

    • @sanjayrautela2863
      @sanjayrautela2863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@joelmacinnes2391 Obviously its all perspective, to me Ronaldo is the goat. People may argue over the fact that Messi was naturally gifted and spent his entire career nursed by Barcelona in the same league, scoring lots of goals against the same teams in the league. But for me Ronaldo's hardwork, mental strength, dominating diff leagues and the UCL, training his ass off to be the very best alongside a rival ( who is naturally gifted ) makes it as an inspiration for me. Coz obviously not all are born with generic natural talent ( which may be another argument whether god gifted talents do exist ). Nonethless for me they both will be the very best, but Ronaldo for me is the goat.

    • @ragilmalik
      @ragilmalik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@joelmacinnes2391 You forgot that ronaldo is the 3rd asisst since people start counting assist (around 2000s), below messi and ozil. If taps ins are to be ashamed of, i'm sure Brazilian ronaldo won't be counted as legend. Huntelaar, higuain, benzema, ibra, those people score much higher taps in ratio than cr7, but well, "people".
      A goalscorer is supposed to, you know, make goals. It doesn't matter if you score from another field, from mars or from penalty spot, a goal is a goal. If scoring goal is easy, i don't see any active players even come close to cr7 goals except messi and ibra. Proof that even "tapping it in" is still hard.

  • @ryanleclaire3948
    @ryanleclaire3948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    All this to say, we're going to miss their presence. El Classico Messi vs Ronaldo was something that will always live in our hearts. This may possibly be the last great rivalry to exist in football. Cheers.

  • @supernova8506
    @supernova8506 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Well Messi just won the World Cup

  • @TheErolking
    @TheErolking ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Messi has done it...7 ballon dors and the World Cup...GOAT

  • @altraaasvk8547
    @altraaasvk8547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    Never did I imagine seeing virat Kohli in a tifo video.

    • @tanayyd5951
      @tanayyd5951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Athletic made a video on him actually.

    • @Mustafa-Chelsea
      @Mustafa-Chelsea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I felt proud seeing them name virat with an Indian flag ❤️

    • @CR7Ashironaldo
      @CR7Ashironaldo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      That’s what happens when you have a population of 1.35 billion

    • @andistheinforitbutso7513
      @andistheinforitbutso7513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      India is always patriotic in Social Media but in reality they shit in thier country. and doesn't

    • @bitik9847
      @bitik9847 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kohli is overrated.
      He won't even be in top 3

  • @misteratoz
    @misteratoz ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Statistically speaking Messi ran away with this years ago.

    • @axesus6966
      @axesus6966 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And this is why ur a clown

  • @NIDELLANEUM
    @NIDELLANEUM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    The fact that these two have played at the same time has been helpful. Imagine how football would have looked like in the past 15 years if only one of them was playing

    • @NIDELLANEUM
      @NIDELLANEUM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @One Indian boy La Liga would have become like the Bundesliga in terms of dominance, and the Champions League would have seen a dynasty of winners

    • @rusty111fire
      @rusty111fire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Premier league teams would probably dominate UCL the past 10 years if these two didn't exist

  • @SinnohGreen
    @SinnohGreen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    It took me a while to realise I wasted so much time lowkey stanning Messi and I should just enjoy them both.

    • @katsuo7798
      @katsuo7798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      There’s nothing wrong with liking one or the other more. Just as long as you respect them both and don’t hate the other one.

    • @JasonWilliams89
      @JasonWilliams89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@katsuo7798 And don't worship them. They're just people

    • @jeffersonjones3134
      @jeffersonjones3134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JasonWilliams89 exactly

    • @deven9565
      @deven9565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      At least you picked the right one

    • @miniguccibeard3021
      @miniguccibeard3021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deven9565 🧢

  • @Wilko37
    @Wilko37 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I think you forgot to mention the fact that they both tried to be like their idol, Jonjo Shelvey

    • @edsonpacheco294
      @edsonpacheco294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Harry Potter is coming for you!!!!

    • @soliatv1038
      @soliatv1038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But I think their idol is Gabriel Obertan

    • @VethoRinga
      @VethoRinga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Titus Bramble is above them all

    • @soliatv1038
      @soliatv1038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@VethoRinga How about Johan Djourou? haha

    • @GEO_________________________24
      @GEO_________________________24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      SHELVEY IS LOVE

  • @sandorclegane7084
    @sandorclegane7084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    4:40 never expected chiku's name in tifo football

    • @nirmanprasad1541
      @nirmanprasad1541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sahi Bola Bhai 😁😁

    • @thomasr5302
      @thomasr5302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      even football fans know he the king

    • @lmfao77able
      @lmfao77able 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly bro, but you actually look at it, being at 4th in that list is quite something, baki toh virat ka alag lvl pe influence hai, atleast 14 brands ke to add mein dikh jata hai ipl k time.

    • @sandorclegane7084
      @sandorclegane7084 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lmfao77able hamara kohli bhai ko boundaries nahi he kahi pe hi aajate he kya inspiration he bhai ,pakistan me bhi fans he

    • @bitik9847
      @bitik9847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chiku is a bad word in Telugu xD

  • @aman1609
    @aman1609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Kudos to you guys... This is such a different angle on the messi and ronaldo narrative. I didn't even realise that these players hold the power to bend laws and judgements because of fans like myself

  • @rajaijaz007
    @rajaijaz007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was born in 1995 and to have them both at their prime years in my teenage years is special.

  • @jaimemoreno8866
    @jaimemoreno8866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    If you tell me Messi's the GOAT and Ronaldo is second, I will tell you: you're right. If you tell me Ronaldo's the GOAT and Messi is second, once again, I will tell you: You're right. If you mention a different player, I will slap you in the face.

    • @vihaankulkarni9109
      @vihaankulkarni9109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And kids these days say Mbappe,Haaland Neymar might reach the level of Messi and Ronaldo they are not even 2% of those two monsters

    • @wutjusthappenedlol7543
      @wutjusthappenedlol7543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vihaankulkarni9109 bro lets even compare mbappe at 19 vs messi and ronaldo (not combined of course)

    • @powerllesss2672
      @powerllesss2672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wutjusthappenedlol7543 what about Haaland?

    • @bluebeing1754
      @bluebeing1754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shut up kid Everyone who understands football knows that Messi is miles ahead of Ronaldo

  • @ktbeatty
    @ktbeatty ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I don't think there is really much of a debate as to who the better player is between the two, outside of diehard fans of Ronaldo. Ronaldo is one of the best scorers in history, and a marvel to watch, but he's not on the same level as Messi overall. It's a bit like comparing Ovechkin and Gretzky. That assist Messi had on the third goal against Croatia, the chances he creates, on top of the goals he scores, is what set him apart.
    It shame that Ronaldo has to be defined in relation to Messi though, because it always becomes an ugly conversation. It is possible to consider Ronaldo a notch below Messi overall and also believe him to be among the best to ever play the game.

    • @sahajshetty1844
      @sahajshetty1844 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Comparing them is rather naïve, Messi, never played for a side which was struggling in the midtable and revolutionized them like Maradona did in Napoli, his trophy cabinet would be much less stashed if he ever did that, Barca were winning titles before Messi's rise and the Spanish national team which won the Euros in 2012 and the World Cup in 2010 had a huge Barcelona influence, so we cannot say for sure whether he single handedly led Barcelona to titles, they had a dream midfield trio and a genius in Pep coaching them which overall accelerated his development as well.
      We can say he is the most naturally gifted players of our generation, his skills on the ball, vision for an assist and precision finishing are sure things to envy but these are all qualitative aspects of his game and it is difficult or rather disingenuous to compare him to a player like Ronaldo who has primarily played as a striker for the past decade.

    • @jonnybarron1518
      @jonnybarron1518 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Messi is on a different level bro it’s just a fact. His prime in 2010-2012 was a step higher than any version of Ronaldo

    • @markjones2418
      @markjones2418 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well said its not a fair comparison

    • @BeamMeUpScotyy
      @BeamMeUpScotyy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ronaldo’s consistency/longevity + ability to score so many goals in so many different ways is world class/GOAT level for sure. but messi’s goal scoring ability is just amazing - even better imo. but messi is also easily the best playmaker and dribbler i have ever seen

  • @guilhermevalli1467
    @guilhermevalli1467 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    now we know

  • @CrisRonnie
    @CrisRonnie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Just had a smile when virat kohli's name was casually slid in

  • @footballeditzs4957
    @footballeditzs4957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Me : laughs in Phil jones

  • @reader5939
    @reader5939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    *Ronaldo's value is from 50% on the field activities nd 50% off the field activities while Messi is 100% on the field celebrity!* 🙌💯🐐

  • @adityakumarjha8796
    @adityakumarjha8796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The Answer to the Billion dollar question is of course :
    Jessie Lingard
    However, Tifo's pick is Ibrahim Sangare

  • @user-be6gf7rb4e
    @user-be6gf7rb4e ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The debate had been finished at 18th December, 2022

    • @dajaunkata
      @dajaunkata ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Comparing a 37 year old to a 35 year old I just know your 12

    • @nareshkumar-0007
      @nareshkumar-0007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dajaunkata yeah bro he just a pessi fan

    • @Cr7_GoAt_03-24
      @Cr7_GoAt_03-24 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro really compared with a rigged wc trophy 😂😂😂

    • @user-be6gf7rb4e
      @user-be6gf7rb4e หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't cry brothers , it's been more than a year 😂

  • @Shaunography
    @Shaunography 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    We are all privileged to have watched them both in the same era. If I had to pick one I'd choose CR7 but I love them both for what they've done for us as fans

    • @aregul12
      @aregul12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same as a Messi fan . I think he’s the most magical player to watch I’ve ever seen , but so privileged to have witnessed both in the best rivalry football could ever ask for

  • @jorgecastillo5287
    @jorgecastillo5287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hopefully everybody will end up enjoying the last years of this 2 most amazing footballers ever because nothing will last forever.

  • @edsonpacheco294
    @edsonpacheco294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love how Kip from Napoleon Dynamite has a cameo

  • @ilijanikolic2498
    @ilijanikolic2498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You forgot to mention Euro 2016 and league of nations 2018 trophies for Ronaldo

    • @JasonWilliams89
      @JasonWilliams89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nations league doesn't really count

    • @ilijanikolic2498
      @ilijanikolic2498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@JasonWilliams89 If it dosent count teams wouldnt be playing with main squads like in Olympic games where teams are playing with childish squads

    • @JasonWilliams89
      @JasonWilliams89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ilijanikolic2498 Nah, it doesn't count

    • @ilijanikolic2498
      @ilijanikolic2498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JasonWilliams89 Olympic games you are right dosent count

    • @JasonWilliams89
      @JasonWilliams89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ilijanikolic2498 Ok but neither does Nations League. And liking your own comments is weird.

  • @swilliams-2057
    @swilliams-2057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have loved to read “Messi & Ronaldo, a 21st century story”. Its not a vs. to me, its just being happy to have lived now! Thankx for a great video again tifo!!

  • @raihanmdgician7396
    @raihanmdgician7396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    we are so lucky to see videos of Tifo football

  • @VARedevil19
    @VARedevil19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    How come you didn't mentioned Euro cup?

    • @hithere589
      @hithere589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      He also missed out the Nations League title.

    • @SebastianGomez-ty2sd
      @SebastianGomez-ty2sd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I would say that is because is not a competition in which they can face each other

    • @disrupt94
      @disrupt94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@SebastianGomez-ty2sd messis olympic gold was brought up?

    • @SonuKhan-jc7lg
      @SonuKhan-jc7lg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      this guy is biased towards messi

    • @CesarLuisAfonsoDias
      @CesarLuisAfonsoDias 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He also missed Ronaldo's goals for Sporting and Portugal... Like almost 150 goals! xD

  • @jasjitsingh7366
    @jasjitsingh7366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    What everyone wants tifo brings

    • @nsd781
      @nsd781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ibrahim Sangare

    • @danielebowman
      @danielebowman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @PietreADI I find a similar thing with Ozil, he's been crap for two years but these nutters outside Europe who don't support Arsenal constantly demand he plays and invent conspiracies.

  • @louisjwiese5515
    @louisjwiese5515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Both are great in their own ways. For me, I have never seen someone destroy defences single handedly like Messi. Just astonishing in the modern era.
    Messi seems like a more private guy though.

  • @devinbaker7383
    @devinbaker7383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I have always preferred Ronaldo but man aren’t we lucky to have witnessed Messi and Ronaldo. The day they retire the football world will be in such pain. GOATs

    • @a.ortega4505
      @a.ortega4505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that ronaldo was a lazy overhyped footballer

    • @a.ortega4505
      @a.ortega4505 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elvinhuta7854 i was responding to a comment that said Brazilian Ronaldo was better he must of deleted his comment

    • @a.ortega4505
      @a.ortega4505 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elvinhuta7854 yeah makes a bit more sense now hun ? I know Christiano is one if not the most hard working footballers out there

    • @bluebeing1754
      @bluebeing1754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know you don't watch football

  • @uvais
    @uvais 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Both are talented, hard working & disciplined to meet their ambitions. Although both are not perfect but there are many qualities to be learned from both of them and apply to our life. As the malay saying goes "ambil yang jernih buang yang keruh".

  • @TheDarkRaptor
    @TheDarkRaptor ปีที่แล้ว +25

    It's been settled, the GOAT.

    • @qrkid6253
      @qrkid6253 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ye ronaldo

    • @jaingarvit2621
      @jaingarvit2621 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@qrkid6253 messi is

    • @qrkid6253
      @qrkid6253 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jaingarvit2621 na ronaldo

    • @qwertyzxccvk
      @qwertyzxccvk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@qrkid6253 rigged offsides against bayern rigged 3 ucls what more is rapenaldog pussinaldog

    • @niranjanrajesh1058
      @niranjanrajesh1058 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@qrkid6253 neither you nor your nan believe that. Not a single cr7 fan actually believes that, but it is funny to see them try and convince themselves on the internet by posting comments such as 'no ronaldo is better' with 0 explanation

  • @giovannipoggi234
    @giovannipoggi234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved that you used Kip from Napoleon Dynamite in the video as the "internet forum fanatic"!

  • @jochenklausberger9076
    @jochenklausberger9076 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great topic!

  • @nadadur
    @nadadur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    Just waiting for the “like - ronaldo, comment - messi” comments

    • @yashmishra4292
      @yashmishra4292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Messi

    • @WakaWaka2468
      @WakaWaka2468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ronaldo never lost 8-2 or bottled a 3-0 lead

    • @yashmishra4292
      @yashmishra4292 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cmon man are you here just to prove tifo right. They both are great or else this rivalry wont exist. So stop doing this fact check shit

    • @makadoz
      @makadoz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@WakaWaka2468 Ronaldo also hasnt won 6 ballon d'ors

    • @zombiekiller225
      @zombiekiller225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most of the tifo audience are better than that

  • @WangMotions
    @WangMotions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Their dominance started in 2007, and I think it can go on for 2 more years. 15 years of domination by 2 players, incredible

  • @cr7messi515
    @cr7messi515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This guy's voice is so smooth it makes me believe everything he says before i even understand it

  • @BenjaminKeller
    @BenjaminKeller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Probably Haaland vs Mbappe, but Imma sit this one out.

    • @fabricejoseph8595
      @fabricejoseph8595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      They both play more like Ronaldo rather than Messi.

    • @Jesus-gr9ig
      @Jesus-gr9ig 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fabricejoseph8595 and there is high chance they will play for madrid

  • @thePeterPan
    @thePeterPan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Honestly, we're going to miss them when they retire

  • @ajmalaj4381
    @ajmalaj4381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    0:43 what is Ramos and Varane doing here

  • @jsb7586
    @jsb7586 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love how you show a Sega Mega Drive controller when you talked about online gaming.

  • @Hakuu_A19
    @Hakuu_A19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's worth taking a step back sometimes and appreciate how blessed we are to have been able to watch the two 🐐s

    • @deven9565
      @deven9565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Messi and Ronaldo should take a step back and appreciate that I watch them play football

  • @raihanazharlapandu9870
    @raihanazharlapandu9870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Such a match made in heaven, one is more passive, the other one is more vocal. One is more low-profile, the other one is more flashy. One relies on finesse shots, the other one relies on knuckleballs. And many more contrast traits between the two of them, such a joy to watch as a teenager that loves football. It's also sad that they're on their 30's now, which is the age that many other pro footballers retire. What makes me sad the most is will we get another rivalries like this? I hope so

  • @robertt9342
    @robertt9342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s also very uncommon to have players of the caliber of Messi and Ronaldo playing their careers at the same time with the amount of overlap. It’s like if Maradona and Pele played at the same time.

  • @King-lv8bn
    @King-lv8bn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribed !!

  • @ricardorodrigues3776
    @ricardorodrigues3776 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed the video but I has hoping for something like the other brief stories videos, with a piano song an massage about how we should be thankful for these two guys. I don’t know, it’s just an opinion, I love your work

  • @JPPSrules
    @JPPSrules 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For me Messi has that God given talent you just can’t teach/train and Ronaldo is the definition of a professional. Takes care of his body, never any off the field drama, and relentless pursuit to be the best.

  • @heehee4651
    @heehee4651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I saw the last el clasico with both these guys playing at the camp nou, both of them scored aswell

    • @MrKoirakanava
      @MrKoirakanava 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yo tambien, 2-2 pero el Barça campeon.

  • @vivekshekhar6687
    @vivekshekhar6687 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the most educated and sensible arguments/discussions on Messi-Ronaldo ever!
    But....
    This Ronaldo-Messi fandom has matured and grown-up from the last decade (I include myself too)...especially after understanding that a good chunk of maximum 3-4 years could be what we might see and get from these G.O.A.T.S! Both of these Men have given FOOTBALL and its FANS something to cherish forever in their lifetime....
    So, I end my comment with a cliched line, which, but is an obvious fact...."WE ARE THE BLESSED FANS OF FOOTBALL TO HAVE EXPERIENCED THESE LEGENDS PLAY IN OUR LIFETIME" (I don't just mean these 2, but every single player from the late 90's to the end of 20's)

  • @11bkrishnanand9
    @11bkrishnanand9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can judge how good this video will be when I see the thumbnail and the title ❤️

  • @twitchybrian31
    @twitchybrian31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When i saw this i already knew this was gonna be one of the best videos tifo ever made......and please dont tell us who you gonna choose keep it to yourself.we dont want hate or arguments comments in this channel

    • @deven9565
      @deven9565 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not a choice between Messi or Ronaldo it's a choice between common sense or Premier League/Euro bias

    • @twitchybrian31
      @twitchybrian31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deven9565 what does that wven mean? Its obvious this is a messi ronaldo rivarly

  • @ArtyShat
    @ArtyShat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I can't believe one day my kids and grandkids gonna ask me "Daym you saw both Messi and Ronaldo playing together?", that would be amazing!

  • @Photoharv
    @Photoharv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im so happy i get to see them play. I doubt i'll see another player of their caliber in my lifetime

  • @michaelstaley7370
    @michaelstaley7370 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos so much.

  • @sim.mp4
    @sim.mp4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is gonna get tons of views!

  • @lvlup3173
    @lvlup3173 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Debate is over now...thanks to Martinez

  • @danielsoto5919
    @danielsoto5919 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love the focus you guys gave to this!

  • @moncefecw3131
    @moncefecw3131 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done mate

  • @pearmohammedshaym1063
    @pearmohammedshaym1063 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Messi is a World Champion now

  • @atomi-x3136
    @atomi-x3136 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The debate is over
    Messi is the goat
    Caz he won the WC

    • @dajaunkata
      @dajaunkata ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh wow a team trophy ur so smart

    • @JamesBond-ny8bq
      @JamesBond-ny8bq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dajaunkataTeam award in a team sport😮. What does that tell you about the Champions leagues he and Ronaldo won

    • @vb2388
      @vb2388 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dajaunkataare you actually telling me Penaldo is anywhere close to Messi in terms of individual abilities and achievements 😂

    • @Cr7_GoAt_03-24
      @Cr7_GoAt_03-24 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rigged wc 😂😂😂

  • @poojanupadhyay3271
    @poojanupadhyay3271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    like the term "SOFT POWER TOOL". imma use that in my uni coursework. Tifo football educating at all levels.
    thank you

  • @cubex8722
    @cubex8722 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your voice it always makes want to watch more

  • @fishyfish6510
    @fishyfish6510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Messi is the Goat
    Ronaldo fans: "No pessi can't play in big games, he always chokes😡."
    Ronaldo is the GOAT
    Messi fans :" Penaldo can only score tapins and penalties😡"
    Lingard is the GOAT
    Every single football fan:"Yes, Lord Lingardinho the GOAT"

    • @bluebeing1754
      @bluebeing1754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Messi has more goals than Penaldo against top 6 of premier league . All time highest scorer of el classico.

  • @VethoRinga
    @VethoRinga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    For me it's like having to choose between one of the movies from the Lord of the Rings trilogy- I love all of them very much and collectively, LOTR as a whole is my favorite movie of all time.
    Same thing with Messi and Ronaldo- I think the both of them are the GOAT.

    • @Chigz10
      @Chigz10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      by definition only one can person can be the greatest, it's a superlative. and that person is messi.

  • @sakshamrai2162
    @sakshamrai2162 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best youtube channel ever , thank u tifo for dis video , messi Ronaldo ❤️❤️ both are love

  • @reaperruss6857
    @reaperruss6857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have to appreciate this kind of content

  • @Marcomanexists
    @Marcomanexists 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    To me, the debate isn’t close. Strictly speaking on natural talent, Messi is untouchable on his own. The things that man does with a football is pure magic.

    • @noway7754
      @noway7754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know who stated to compare them .... There's no similarly between them .. isn't it ?

    • @akoskovacs6830
      @akoskovacs6830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's not just about natural talent. CR7 became Messi's rival with extremely hóhard work and he acquired (mostly motivational and leadership) qualities Messi doesn't have. I prefer Messi, too and I think he's the better player but if your team is 0-2 down with 10 minutes to go, I'd rather pick that shouting, egocentrical madman who can somehow motivate everybody. Even though I deeply respect Messi, he's lacking in this regard.

    • @MuhammadAslam-zm1co
      @MuhammadAslam-zm1co 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@akoskovacs6830 man what you speaking is not wrong but you have to understand something messi is pure football no talking no heroism only doing what he Done is impossible for any player in history to reach .ronaldo is more about inspiration ,confidence e.t.c that makes him a better role model for young generation and messi magic makes messi a better footballer

  • @dbricksawc3634
    @dbricksawc3634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After they retire, I will too, and will start to really focus in my career and life. I will stop soccer forever

  • @Bart_Allen_YT
    @Bart_Allen_YT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the other hand, I was surprised to learn that Virat is more marketable than Federer, Djokovic or even Bolt.

  • @justnoel-_-9508
    @justnoel-_-9508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Noone will ever come close to those in the next 50 yrs minimum

    • @braddlesharris3577
      @braddlesharris3577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I'm sure they said the same about pele 50 years ago and Maradona 30ish years ago. There will be better and it won't be long. Like it or not its the reality of sports.

    • @shubhamjoshi8674
      @shubhamjoshi8674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@braddlesharris3577 There would be Maradonas and Peles but they won't be at the same time sharing 11 ballon d'ors alternatively. There won't be any 2 players repeatedly breaking scoring records year after year after year

    • @braddlesharris3577
      @braddlesharris3577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shubhamjoshi8674 Because its the first time its happened will definitely happen again athletes only become better.

    • @Chigz10
      @Chigz10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      50 years is an incredibly long time nobody knows what will happen in sports

    • @kheedronjames9474
      @kheedronjames9474 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@braddlesharris3577 so true

  • @abhashrajsubedi7449
    @abhashrajsubedi7449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Did Messi and Ronaldo first originally appear in The Athletic?

  • @MyRagha
    @MyRagha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you can make a 1 hour video of Arteta's Arsenal, Messi vs Ronaldo's deserves a 2 hour film

  • @tiruvgiri1519
    @tiruvgiri1519 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! For the "Billion" dollar question, Mbapee vs Haaland looks like a promising answer to me :)

  • @lolx9560
    @lolx9560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This is gonna be good

    • @lancinekeita4823
      @lancinekeita4823 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It always was

    • @chicano_travels
      @chicano_travels 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He wont play

    • @lolx9560
      @lolx9560 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chicano_travels I wasn't talking about today's match I was talking about the vid

    • @a-manthegeneral
      @a-manthegeneral 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chicano_travels lmao

  • @peytondagenais479
    @peytondagenais479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3:36 Toxic Brendan Rogers.

  • @gopakumarkumarks9172
    @gopakumarkumarks9172 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this channel. Presentation is lit

  • @AliffAlive
    @AliffAlive 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    People should really make a documentary or movie about their rivalries. I would pay to watch it

  • @MD-Ghoul
    @MD-Ghoul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They’ll meet again next season when Juve play Manchester City in CL

  • @eddiecorado1635
    @eddiecorado1635 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I miss the real El Clasico 😢

  • @danielapaza5994
    @danielapaza5994 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone happy seeing football superstars, I'm just happy seeing high quality football from the other side of the world

  • @jimh5949
    @jimh5949 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tifo Football videos are by a mile the highest quality way to consume football information

  • @justbubba8358
    @justbubba8358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think its safe to say both CR7 and messi are the best and there has never been anyone like them

    • @samoso6979
      @samoso6979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol there has been players like them.

    • @daniaaal
      @daniaaal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@samoso6979 they are clearly miles ahead of every other footballer in terms of how much they have achieved over the past 10-15 years.

    • @samoso6979
      @samoso6979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@daniaaal agreed last 10-15 years. Best ever? Nope can’t say that imo

    • @bluebeing1754
      @bluebeing1754 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Messi is miles ahead Ronaldo . Why don't people just understand that you're purely influenced by media. Are people that dumb , they don't have own mind .

  • @serialchiller23
    @serialchiller23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    they both still striving to reach my man Lingard's level.

  • @DoperThenMost
    @DoperThenMost 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought your cartoon Taylor Swift was a cartoon Pavel Nedved at first ahaha

  • @nirmalseehra89
    @nirmalseehra89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i actually love this channel

  • @brijeshchandrakar
    @brijeshchandrakar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wouldn't write off Ronaldo for 2026 world cup playing at the age of 41. He is superhuman.