Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. I don’t own an e-bike at the moment but hopefully I will in the future. Your videos helps me get a good understanding of what I’m getting into.
I just bought a Velotric Discovery 1 Plus. There are some things potential buyer should be aware of. )1 The adds say there is a 14 day free trail, Good luck with that, when you look closer there is a stipulation that if your odometer read over 10 miles of use you are ineligible to return the bike. Also there is a $200. restocking fee and you must repackage the bike and pay for return shipping. 2) The advertised mileage is 50 with throttle and 64 with assist. These figures are for the lowest assist level , if you use level 5 assist you will get about 25 miles not 50. 3) The first ride I had a fully charged battery, after 22 miles the battery showed 3 bars left out of 5. The next day I left with 3 bars and after approx. 3 miles the battery showed 0 bar, the display sent me out on a ride with me thinking I had plenty of battery when it was really empty. By taking a short ride my first day I was ineligible to return this bike. Buyer Beware.
Another great video, Micah! You've given us even more confidence in our choice of the Discover 2. My wife and I can't wait to have them delivered to our LBS!!!
Although I own 3 e-bikes already, I just pre-ordered the Discover 2 with a mirror (seems their mirror has a coating like car mirrors), in the Cherry Crimson. I like to pedal. My Como has no throttle and is a mid-motor belt driver auto shifting e-bike that I have to pedal and of the 3 bike I own I enjoy it the most because of the TORQUE sensor. I also own a 2024 Wired Freedom and a Wallke H6 MAX with the dual battery setup, both has cadence sensors. The last two are “Ok” but easily prefer the torque sensor to the cadence sensor. I pleasant surprise was the MIK compatiable rear rack which my Como also has (added the adaptor to my Freedom) for a one trunk bag with all my goodies, not just choose the bike. That quick snap on is great. I'm 70 and although the Freedom and H6 MAX both can take me to over 33 mph, at the end of a ride I feel better when I've ridden the Como. Yes, the Como is expensive compared to all of these other bikes, but still my favorite. We each have difference preferences, thus we probably prefer different bikes. Ride Safe. Yes, Micah, I used your code.
Thank-you for this review... this looks to be a well-thought out and produced ebike. It looks like your attachment point for towing was so high on the bicycle that it was lifting the front wheel off the ground... having it at axle level (or lower) would allow you to to spend less of your energy "controlling" the added instability and more on the actual tow.
I wondered if you could do hillclimb testing on all the bikes you review. That's an easier test for me to relate to since I know how my ebike climbs hills. Thanks for the great videos.
That is one Heavy battery it smashed that plastic tub you used in the test, although it seems to have more than enough capacity even with a heavy rider and battery/bike
awesome new bike! I'm in Canada but I will try to get one soon...how does the find my works with this bike? Something like an airtag built in to the frame? will it need batteries replaced once a year? and it cannot be removed by thieves correct? Also, can the amount of shock absorption can be adjusted on the fork? I may not need as much shock absorbtion while riding around the city. I have an ebike now and I installed an air tag in the fork and it works. Of course thieves are always getting smarter...I would love this bike in crimson red!
A great looking E bike, something I would consider buying. The only thing I noticed is the key location is not ideal. Perhaps a folding key, or another location, as the key sticks out, and is in position to get snapped off. A minor detail on what looks to be an awesome product. Great review, thanks !!
great to know !! Thanks You make what looks to be an excellent product.The quality is apparent, the fit and finish is very attractive !@@OB-VelotriceBike
I notice pulling same amount of weight as putting weight on top of wheel, pulling puts more stress or uses more torque to move. Weight on top of rear cargo is based on the roman arch support of being the weight over the wheel. I tested this with 50lbs, pulling for 5 miles, my ebike shuts down after 3 miles on full throttle ( I have to go at medium or slow speeds of covering distance ) to cool off the motor and battery for a few minutes before riding again. On the rear rack Im going for ever.?> But it is the roman arch physics of supporting the weight at a minimum. Well, Im not going to place a truck on my rear rack, lol. But hope this helps for others to avoid the noids of the physics of CARGO.
My backs messed up so I doubt I could even ride an ebike even though it looks like a lot of fun but will just have to stick to my walking for now. Curious if you have any thoughts about Aptera and if you would ever consider getting one when they come out.
Question, please. - How do you think the Discover 2 would do maintaining speed up hills? My area has a lot inclines at tunnels and bridges. The problem is, the bottoms of these ramps have sharp turns, so I can't really build up much speed on approach. For short distances, could it keep up with traffic at 20 mph? I see cadence sensor bikes doing a pretty good job with it while pedaling. I've not tried torque sensor ebikes before. Just curious how it would handle it, as I hear that torque sensors require more and continued effort from the rider. Thanks for your reviews!
Can I ask for your advice ? Want to buy a conversion kit 48 V and 1000 AH .I have a battery 48 V ,13 AH ,is this strong enough ?Thanks for your reply .
I wish you had the sound of the motor while going around town. I've been waiting for Euphree to offer a 750 watt hub on their robin x.....they now have a 750 hub but that thing has to be the most annoying sound. Now, I'm shopping around for something else....which is fun/not fun ;)
I really hope you respond to this. I have a 48V 1, 000W motor with a controller of 15A rated current and 30A maximum current with a battery of 54V 12.5A The motor spins freely without issue but when I sit on it and accelerate to about 15km/Hr the power cuts off, display refreshes (I am clueless if it's the BMS or controller cutting off power and why} Pls help.
This is usually the BMS cutting off due to a protection firing, such as low voltage or high current protection. Could indicate a weak battery cell, high resistance connection somewhere, or other issue in the battery.
@@EbikeSchool Thank you for your reply. I am confused as the technician who built the battery said it's because the battery has a low current of 12.5 meanwhile the controller will draw 15amps as rated and more. Pls help me clarify this
Not enough difference to justify "upgrading" from the Discover 1. Also, no Android support? Why Apple only? Also, the lack of a upper bar is a deal breaker. All the force is at one point.
I wish the dumb EU would allow these bicycles more people would immediately switch to these e-bikes especially for that price! Our market is „governed“ so that less expensive models do not penetrate the market and the old biking industry is „saved“ from new technology so dumb In Europe we HAVE to pedal in order to get assist until 25km/h 15mp/h and maximum power is measly 250W Even scooters are allowed to just zip with assisting thats exactly why everybody loves them and then they regulated it again
You are the problem. Guess what if you fallow the "law" it becomes real. If you don't it goes away. Want an example! In Italy the tried to introduce tax on the first home. Some people paid most didn't it went away.
I'm running a 2kw motor and riding at 70km/h BTW. I can use it as a car replacement if they take it away it's still cheaper than a years of car insurance.
I agree that that is dumb to be illegal. 28mph pedal assist is in practice not that much different than a regular bike and is pretty reasonable, you can ride that fast on regular bikes too and it's not like its effortless to get to 28 with pedal assist
Please get in contact with me I'm having a problem figuring out what type throttle to buy for the controller for my 1000 w 47 volt I just started building electric bikes from kits my controller and throttling bad I bought a correct controller but I do not know how to find the throttle to match the controller
But if they are so concerned about hazards and safety, why do They have to extort in the name of UL certified? Why 3 to 5 times cost? Why is the UL, who is concerned about fire and water safety, not concerned about economic safety?
Stating that an IPX6 water protection rating is OK to take to a Car Wash is just plain Horrible advice. Ingress Protection for water @ a level 6 rating (X6) is OK for 1 Liter @ 15 PSI for 1 minute Max. That's equivalent to Pouring Water from a Bucket, or pressure no greater than Rainfall. 99% of Car Washes use water pressure Starting @ 900 psi and up to 2000 psi which will certainty defeat any water seal rated to IPX6 meaning you've likely forced water into the Battery or Motor. IPX6 is a Rainfall rating. An IPX7 rating would allow the use of Garden Hose pressure (40 - 80 psi) and would Still be defeated w/ a Pressure Washer.
What was the point with the truck towing? Sorry but the video has way, way too much filler. I am a very loyal fan, tell me about the bike not about things I hope no one does.. Be Safe, Craig.
I enjoy your thorough comments very much. I'm looking for a bike for my wife that who's just recovering from major illness and I just don't know what I'm thinking of this discover 2 but a lette pricey with the medical bills Thank you mel @ Rosemary pechart green valley az
Please get in contact with me I'm having a problem figuring out what type throttle to buy for the controller for my 1000 w 47 volt I just started building electric bikes from kits my controller and throttling bad I bought a correct controller but I do not know how to find the throttle to match the controller
It’s amazing to see how much the “fit and finish” of these ebikes have evolved. The attention to detail is impressive.
BRILLIANT idea for content Micah! This feels like one of those multi million view ideas!! Can’t wait to watch
Ok Micah you outdid yourself on this one! Pulling the truck and then the "drama" of the battery plunge were both very amusing!
Thank you! I did have a bit of fun with this one!
Thanks for taking the time to make these videos. I don’t own an e-bike at the moment but hopefully I will in the future. Your videos helps me get a good understanding of what I’m getting into.
Your scientific evaluation of this bike cracks me up. I bet you two were having way too much fun.
Thanks for your support .
I just bought a Velotric Discovery 1 Plus. There are some things potential buyer should be aware of. )1 The adds say there is a 14 day free trail, Good luck with that, when you look closer there is a stipulation that if your odometer read over 10 miles of use you are ineligible to return the bike. Also there is a $200. restocking fee and you must repackage the bike and pay for return shipping. 2) The advertised mileage is 50 with throttle and 64 with assist. These figures are for the lowest assist level , if you use level 5 assist you will get about 25 miles not 50. 3) The first ride I had a fully charged battery, after 22 miles the battery showed 3 bars left out of 5. The next day I left with 3 bars and after approx. 3 miles the battery showed 0 bar, the display sent me out on a ride with me thinking I had plenty of battery when it was really empty.
By taking a short ride my first day I was ineligible to return this bike.
Buyer Beware.
Very good. I got nervous when you submerged the battery but holy cow. If you can do that, riding in rain is nothing.
Came for the unboxing, stayed for the truck pull. Great bike and video. Thanks
These OEM bikes are getting nicer and nicer. Still, looking forward to some old school home builds on your channel!
I was thinking the same 👌🏼. I’d like to see some more diy videos 😁. Batteries or controllers etc.
Sure thing, guys. I have some stuff planned! Too many ideas, not enough days in the week! But stay tuned 😎
I love the information you put forth in your videos. A book would be a welcome addition to our new undertaking of Ebikes. Thanks
Love the color. Velotirc makes a nice bike.
Another great video, Micah!
You've given us even more confidence in our choice of the Discover 2. My wife and I can't wait to have them delivered to our LBS!!!
that looks like a great bike as i live in a area that has a lot of hills and pot holes.
Although I own 3 e-bikes already, I just pre-ordered the Discover 2 with a mirror (seems their mirror has a coating like car mirrors), in the Cherry Crimson.
I like to pedal. My Como has no throttle and is a mid-motor belt driver auto shifting e-bike that I have to pedal and of the 3 bike I own I enjoy it the most because of the TORQUE sensor.
I also own a 2024 Wired Freedom and a Wallke H6 MAX with the dual battery setup, both has cadence sensors. The last two are “Ok” but easily prefer the torque sensor to the cadence sensor.
I pleasant surprise was the MIK compatiable rear rack which my Como also has (added the adaptor to my Freedom) for a one trunk bag with all my goodies, not just choose the bike. That quick snap on is great.
I'm 70 and although the Freedom and H6 MAX both can take me to over 33 mph, at the end of a ride I feel better when I've ridden the Como.
Yes, the Como is expensive compared to all of these other bikes, but still my favorite.
We each have difference preferences, thus we probably prefer different bikes.
Ride Safe.
Yes, Micah, I used your code.
Thank-you for this review... this looks to be a well-thought out and produced ebike. It looks like your attachment point for towing was so high on the bicycle that it was lifting the front wheel off the ground... having it at axle level (or lower) would allow you to to spend less of your energy "controlling" the added instability and more on the actual tow.
I wondered if you could do hillclimb testing on all the bikes you review. That's an easier test for me to relate to since I know how my ebike climbs hills. Thanks for the great videos.
Very cool idea using the blue dye for effect.
That's a pretty good commuter!
Very impressive bike! Wow! Really nice too! Thanks for sharing!
This lad is the Bob Ross of Electric Bikes and Plant Machinery.
Haha, thank you buddy, and thanks for the support!
Great review. I love the Velotric line.
Great looking bike ... like the color too. What kind of mileage is there in this size bike?
Nice bike, and I love the mad scientist look hahaha
Sweet ride. Thank you for the informational videos.
Excellent review and you kept it veryinteresting
Nice bike, cool color.
That is one Heavy battery it smashed that plastic tub you used in the test, although it seems to have more than enough capacity even with a heavy rider and battery/bike
It would be interesting, great even, if they had a full suspension version. I can tell you once you've gone full suspension there's no going back!
awesome new bike! I'm in Canada but I will try to get one soon...how does the find my works with this bike? Something like an airtag built in to the frame? will it need batteries replaced once a year? and it cannot be removed by thieves correct? Also, can the amount of shock absorption can be adjusted on the fork? I may not need as much shock absorbtion while riding around the city. I have an ebike now and I installed an air tag in the fork and it works. Of course thieves are always getting smarter...I would love this bike in crimson red!
A great looking E bike, something I would consider buying. The only thing I noticed is the key location is not ideal. Perhaps a folding key, or another location, as the key sticks out, and is in position to get snapped off. A minor detail on what looks to be an awesome product. Great review, thanks !!
You can take the key out while riding.
great to know !! Thanks You make what looks to be an excellent product.The quality is apparent, the fit and finish is very attractive !@@OB-VelotriceBike
I notice pulling same amount of weight as putting weight on top of wheel, pulling puts more stress or uses more torque to move. Weight on top of rear cargo is based on the roman arch support of being the weight over the wheel. I tested this with 50lbs, pulling for 5 miles, my ebike shuts down after 3 miles on full throttle ( I have to go at medium or slow speeds of covering distance ) to cool off the motor and battery for a few minutes before riding again. On the rear rack Im going for ever.?> But it is the roman arch physics of supporting the weight at a minimum. Well, Im not going to place a truck on my rear rack, lol. But hope this helps for others to avoid the noids of the physics of CARGO.
How is the sodium batteries coming? Are they any closer to coming out?
My backs messed up so I doubt I could even ride an ebike even though it looks like a lot of fun but will just have to stick to my walking for now. Curious if you have any thoughts about Aptera and if you would ever consider getting one when they come out.
What is your choice of helmet?…I bought a nutcsse street with mips…it seems soooooo big
That is a nice looking e-bike!
Thank you for sharing 😊
TVS XL100cc moped frame you can also use it for electric bicycle
Question, please. - How do you think the Discover 2 would do maintaining speed up hills? My area has a lot inclines at tunnels and bridges. The problem is, the bottoms of these ramps have sharp turns, so I can't really build up much speed on approach. For short distances, could it keep up with traffic at 20 mph? I see cadence sensor bikes doing a pretty good job with it while pedaling. I've not tried torque sensor ebikes before. Just curious how it would handle it, as I hear that torque sensors require more and continued effort from the rider. Thanks for your reviews!
Can you review the Stark Varg you will really like it! (:
This is just an ad. What are your concerns and downsides to the bike?
Can I ask for your advice ? Want to buy a conversion kit 48 V and 1000 AH .I have a battery 48 V ,13 AH ,is this strong enough ?Thanks for your reply .
IN IND 2024 newly launched XL 100cc moped totally different anything that shape electric bicycle look for that moped frame I like it
Over 70lbs with battery?
Do you know their shipping options outside the US?
I like back rack on and mud fenders
I wish you had the sound of the motor while going around town. I've been waiting for Euphree to offer a 750 watt hub on their robin x.....they now have a 750 hub but that thing has to be the most annoying sound. Now, I'm shopping around for something else....which is fun/not fun ;)
Cool thing you are doing.
Great video . Thank youuu
I find rear hub motors are very herky jerky....how does this bike feel when you first start off...does the power stop when you stop pedaling?
Sir big big fan!!! may I ask if you can use those 48v LifePO4 (51.2V labeled) on these 48V ebikes? thank you!!!
I really hope you respond to this.
I have a 48V 1, 000W motor with a controller of 15A rated current and 30A maximum current with a battery of 54V 12.5A
The motor spins freely without issue but when I sit on it and accelerate to about 15km/Hr the power cuts off, display refreshes (I am clueless if it's the BMS or controller cutting off power and why}
Pls help.
This is usually the BMS cutting off due to a protection firing, such as low voltage or high current protection. Could indicate a weak battery cell, high resistance connection somewhere, or other issue in the battery.
@@EbikeSchool Thank you for your reply.
I am confused as the technician who built the battery said it's because the battery has a low current of 12.5 meanwhile the controller will draw 15amps as rated and more.
Pls help me clarify this
Great video thanks ! Love the bike
Not enough difference to justify "upgrading" from the Discover 1. Also, no Android support? Why Apple only? Also, the lack of a upper bar is a deal breaker. All the force is at one point.
Weird bike geometry. Seat tube is way too short
I wish the dumb EU would allow these bicycles more people would immediately switch to these e-bikes especially for that price! Our market is „governed“ so that less expensive models do not penetrate the market and the old biking industry is „saved“ from new technology so dumb
In Europe we HAVE to pedal in order to get assist until 25km/h 15mp/h and maximum power is measly 250W
Even scooters are allowed to just zip with assisting thats exactly why everybody loves them and then they regulated it again
You are the problem.
Guess what if you fallow the "law" it becomes real.
If you don't it goes away.
Want an example!
In Italy the tried to introduce tax on the first home.
Some people paid most didn't it went away.
I'm running a 2kw motor and riding at 70km/h BTW.
I can use it as a car replacement if they take it away it's still cheaper than a years of car insurance.
I agree that that is dumb to be illegal. 28mph pedal assist is in practice not that much different than a regular bike and is pretty reasonable, you can ride that fast on regular bikes too and it's not like its effortless to get to 28 with pedal assist
Socialism of EU sucks! Love the freedom and capitalist Murica!
I am going to France to buy an bike and tour with. What bike do you recommend I should buy?
How is paddling once battery dies?
Nice bike.
Let me know what do you think TVS XL100cc anything like that electric bicycle?
How about some wheelie action Micah!
Please get in contact with me I'm having a problem figuring out what type throttle to buy for the controller for my 1000 w 47 volt I just started building electric bikes from kits my controller and throttling bad I bought a correct controller but I do not know how to find the throttle to match the controller
Very nice😊
Do i need to resubmit my ebikeforgood form?
Does the battery have to be on for the apple air tag to work?
Hi @hardyharr1361 no it does not. The air tag will work if the bike is powered off.
@@VelotricEbike thank you.
請問台灣有在賣嗎？
Hey I'm 69 years old would like to know if I could get one of those bikes I am on oxygen and sure would like to get out and smell the fresh air
Canada needs to open up the option for class3 bikes. We are limited to 500w and 32km/h (20m/h). It's to big here to not go that little bit faster
Where in Canada do you live?
@@Scott_fonz81 Calgary Alberta
@@Scott_fonz81 Calgary Alberta
@@Scott_fonz81 Calgary Alberta
@@Scott_fonz81Calgary Alberta. The bike paths are all technically 20 zones
You should borrow Seth's Bike Hacks super low gear cassette
Amazing 😮
Nice bike ,good features but not my color, thanks for the info
Nice
So awesome wish I could win 🤞
But if they are so concerned about hazards and safety, why do They have to extort in the name of UL certified? Why 3 to 5 times cost? Why is the UL, who is concerned about fire and water safety, not concerned about economic safety?
What happens when the AirTag dies the batteries?
Considering my AirTags last a couple years on a watch battery, by the time this drains an e-bike battery, the earth will already be devoid of humans.
Its rated water proof, but NOT rust proof.
I think it’s time for an update to the electric China boat.
Video coming soon. Solar panels and bigger motor - much faster !! Stay tuned
@@micahsdad5388how do you know?
@@typeelite9283 Because I'm Micah's dad !!
@@micahsdad5388 I have connected the dots. Good day sir!
Cool but it is GIANT!
Please I need an electric bike.i am from Africa and this will help me for my long journey from my job place to home (day 01)
Stating that an IPX6 water protection rating is OK to take to a Car Wash is just plain Horrible advice.
Ingress Protection for water @ a level 6 rating (X6) is OK for 1 Liter @ 15 PSI for 1 minute Max. That's equivalent to Pouring Water from a Bucket, or pressure no greater than Rainfall.
99% of Car Washes use water pressure Starting @ 900 psi and up to 2000 psi which will certainty defeat any water seal rated to IPX6 meaning you've likely forced water into the Battery or Motor.
IPX6 is a Rainfall rating. An IPX7 rating would allow the use of Garden Hose pressure (40 - 80 psi) and would Still be defeated w/ a Pressure Washer.
Now pull the truck up a 10% grade.
I think the pulling would go the other way in that scenario…
"Anything I'd like"
What was the point with the truck towing? Sorry but the video has way, way too much filler. I am a very loyal fan, tell me about the bike not about things I hope no one does.. Be Safe, Craig.
Yow send me this one really like 😅
It's an ugly shopping bike with a big motor, my school was painted that colour above shoulder height, we hated it. desperately overpowered.
Promo SM 😚
I enjoy your thorough comments very much. I'm looking for a bike for my wife that who's just recovering from major illness and I just don't know what I'm thinking of this discover 2 but a lette pricey with the medical bills
Thank you mel @ Rosemary pechart green valley az
I would love to have such a great bike since I have never had an e-bike and I love travelling by bike. 😍🚲🏞️
I enjoyed the ebike video.
That's an awesome ebike, thanks for sharing all the Great info about it.
Please get in contact with me I'm having a problem figuring out what type throttle to buy for the controller for my 1000 w 47 volt I just started building electric bikes from kits my controller and throttling bad I bought a correct controller but I do not know how to find the throttle to match the controller
Please I need an electric bike.i am from Africa and this will help me for my long journey from my job place to home (day 01)