What do you think of the Discover 2? Is 15 PAS levels too much? alnk.to/7qkjjpJ If you do decide to purchase a Velotric model, we would love if you would use out link. It is a free and easy way to show us support. Thank you all so much in advance! And don't forget to use code " *eBikeEscape60* " to save *$60* off any Velotric Model
Thank you for this video. I have been looking at the Aventon Level 2 and Pace 500.3 as well as NCM T7S only because they have brick and mortar stores to service the bike near us. I must admit your review is really making me consider putting the Velotric Discover 2 in 1st place, my only concern is finding somewhere to service if/when required.
As someone who owns a nomad 1, discover 1 and a level 2, I can honestly say the aventon is way overhyped. The only thing g it has going for it over velotric discover 1 is the torque sensor. I strongly recommend getting a discover 2 over a level. Aventon is overhyped
Best startup video out of a dozen. 5 stars from me. Only complaint...sick and tired of watching battery dunks. Got an order in for a D2 and kinda disappointed in slow delivery. All geeked up ready to rock and just sitting around watching summer days tick by.
@@EbikeEscape I live in Orange Park and I was going to ask you, where in North Florida were you riding? The St. Augustine to Palatka trail if pretty good, a little less shade than I prefer. The Palatka to Lake Butler Rails to Trails is one of my favorite bike trails. I'm a new subscriber, "Hello and how's it going"? I need to find an affordable eBike Carrier for my niece, I just gifted her a used Pedego Comfort Cruiser as a "learning" bike. Can you recommend a budget friendly but well made Carrier? I have a Thule T2 or something like that, heavy, no ramps, no fold-up, no built in license tag holder or lights. Thank you...!
As always another great e-bike review. How loud is the motor whine on this bike? One of my pet peeves is e-bike motor whine. Also looking at the VanPowers UrbanGlide Pro and that one is nearly silent. Thanks again and keep up the great work.
Curious does the software remember your previous PAS level? For example i was on Trail PAS 3 but had to go to boost for a wuick "boost". If i put it back to trail will i remember PAS 3? Thanks
My area has a lot inclines at tunnels and bridges. 20 - 30 ft elevation changes with ramps 100 - 200 ft. long. The ramp entrances have sharp turns, so I can't build up much speed on approach. I'd need to maintain 20 - 25 mph to keep up with traffic. How do you think the Discover 2 would handle it? Throttle only and also with me cranking? I've seen cadence sensor bikes zipping up those ramps. Just curious thow a torque sensor setup would perform, as I understand that it requires more effort from the rider. Thanks! Appreciate the review.
Is there a way to secure the bike if course in combination with an actual lock? Like on my Lectric you need the key to start, and the Lectric xpress you can power down the battery and lock it up so no one can turn it on without the keys to unlock the battery to turn the battery on. I was wondering if the discover 2 has some type of locking feature, as I understand the key is just to simply remove the battery.
I'd love if they made these controls and display compatible with existing models as an upgrade. The old five-way switch isn't a great eyes off mode switching control
I’ve had my Blix Aveny for almost a year now but I’m very much ready to upgrade for more power, speed, and range. Just when I thought I had my options narrowed down between Aventon Pace 500.3 (lighter weight and similar to my Blix) and the new Radster Road (750w motor) then I watched your video on the Discover 2. Now I feel like I’m back to square one. This might be a silly question but are there any other option to make the cables more cleaned up. Everything about this bike looks amazing except the mess of wires!
You mentioned that boost spacing on front fork might allow slightly wider tires. Will the fenders allow for that also? Do you think I could go from these Kenda 27.5 x 2.4's to Shwalbe Johnny Watts 27.5 x 2.8?
This is a great bike which I am considering. I am also trying to compare it to the step thru Ride1up Lmtd v2. Ryan, your reviews are so thorough, Is there any major definitive difference that would help me decide. The price difference is non consequential. It appears that the LMTD is lighter, which is important for my bike rack maximum payload. Both bikes have the capabilities that I would prefer. I do wonder about the complexities of actively using 15 iterations of pas.
I was in this exact place yesterday. I ended up going with the discover 2 as it seems a bit more future proof overall, but the weight is definitely something to consider for the bike rack, but I would remove the battery to lower the weight on the bike rack. For me, the main driving factor was having slightly longer range and being ipx7 rated as I plan on using it for daily commuting and we get lots of rain where I am from. I think it’s over kill, but definitely gives me peace of mind. The app is also much more intuitive and allows for easy customization of each assist iteration so that you only cycle through the ones actually needed and not all 15. Both the LMT’d v2 and Discover 2 are excellent overall packages though, so good luck!
Can you do an updated video with the firmware update showing the difference in the feel of the cadence sensor vs the torque sensor. New update allows user to choose between them on the app while connected to the bike. Pretty sweet that it allows over the air updating via app. Keeps this bike refreshed and work out any potential bugs spotted.
Beautiful bike! I have a Radpower City 5 plus....I was considering getting a Radpower Radster Road...how would this Velotric compare? I'm in Canada. Is this a US model only? No local Velotric dealers in Canada...all ebikes are getting heavier and heavier...how can they expect seniors (I'm 58 and healthy) to deal with 70lbs bikes? But I can't deny this one is a beauty. Thanks for the video
I would consider widening your knees when you ride it may just be the video but your knees look very narrow; if you widen them out a bit you can get better leverage through your ankles on the pedals. No hate just relate, I do the same. I also have ordered myself a Large Mint Discover 2 and am excited for it to arrive Also dont let me tell you how to ride from a single video haha. Just an idea about widening your knees a bit for pedal leverage over the ankles Liked and subscribed! I appreciate you!
Sounds like a terrific bike if one doesn't mind the weight but it is too heavy for this 75 yr old.! I agree that it sounds overly complex all the riding modes. I'd love to see some of these features show up as an upgrade to the T1 ST; namely, the richly featured rear tail light, the adjustable stem, the controller and screen with all those options,. If all that added 3 bs the T1 would still be a nice manageable 39 lbs A bit more battery would be nice but not essential. Please tell us that Velotric has that in the works for the T1 ST!
@@EbikeEscape I'm very close to purchasing their T1 ST, But I see they just introduced their new Discover 2 with lots of really nice upgrades such as turn signals .... Since you may have an inside line to Velotric, perhaps you have some idea when they will bring out an updated version of the T1 & if it will have some of the new features such as turn signals, throttle .... Thanks!
Couple notes here. Some of the features listed here aren't standard equipment when ordering ie: the phone holder is a paid option. Same with the pricey basket. Mirror etc. So the bike featured here won't be $1699.
Heavy. Looks like a great bike but at 80 years of age I really don’t want to load it into my Honda Odyssey even with a wheelchair ramp. My Aventon Pace 500.3 is less than 50 lbs without the battery.
I wish that the weight was less 50 lbs or less. But does have a lot of nice features. One feature that would be nice is the ability to switch between torque and cadence, I have seen other e-bikes that have this option.
Roll it rearward and the chain comes off the front sprocket. Bad Deal. Frame geometry is really weird. Throttle up is terrible. Hard to get comfortable on it. All in all Id give it a 5 out of 10.
Did anyone noticed a bike called summit 1 at 7:43 when he was trying to add a new bike on the app? Did I miss something or is that a new bike that Velotric is working on that was not meant to be shown yet? Or I’m I just crazy and that bike is already out?
They jacked up the price by $200 its now $1800.was planing on getting one until i saw the price. will waiti until they bring it down or look elsewhere.
I was thinking the same thing, but when I see how much comes with this bike, and all the ratings above safety ratings, water resistance ratings, as well as the ability to update the firmware to allow for adjustments and feature enhancements. Velotric just released an update which brought a new feature, cadence/torque swap where you can choose what type of sensor you want, it’s like having two bikes in one. I have reconsidered this bike after I test drove it at my local ebike store. So worth the money. I’m picking one up in a couple of weeks.
Also Black Friday deals will be dropping in a few weeks, have not heard anything official yet, but my dealer mentioned some Black Friday deals on other eBikes in a similar type of other brands like Aventon and ride one up.
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What do you think of the Discover 2? Is 15 PAS levels too much?
alnk.to/7qkjjpJ If you do decide to purchase a Velotric model, we would love if you would use out link. It is a free and easy way to show us support. Thank you all so much in advance! And don't forget to use code " *eBikeEscape60* " to save *$60* off any Velotric Model
I bought two of the Packers during their Black Friday sale for $1,500 each. Super happy with them so far.
Sweet deal
Thank you for this video. I have been looking at the Aventon Level 2 and Pace 500.3 as well as NCM T7S only because they have brick and mortar stores to service the bike near us. I must admit your review is really making me consider putting the Velotric Discover 2 in 1st place, my only concern is finding somewhere to service if/when required.
As someone who owns a nomad 1, discover 1 and a level 2, I can honestly say the aventon is way overhyped. The only thing g it has going for it over velotric discover 1 is the torque sensor. I strongly recommend getting a discover 2 over a level. Aventon is overhyped
Also take a look at the Mokwheel Asphalt ST. I test drove it with the Aventon Level 2 and preferred the Mokwheel. It is $1,500. A steal imo.
Best startup video out of a dozen. 5 stars from me. Only complaint...sick and tired of watching battery dunks.
Got an order in for a D2 and kinda disappointed in slow delivery. All geeked up ready to rock and just sitting around watching summer days tick by.
Love the Palm Coast videos! Great review as usual.
Thanks! Palm Coast was fantastic. Hope to return if we can!
@@EbikeEscape I live in Orange Park and I was going to ask you, where in North Florida were you riding? The St. Augustine to Palatka trail if pretty good, a little less shade than I prefer. The Palatka to Lake Butler Rails to Trails is one of my favorite bike trails.
I'm a new subscriber, "Hello and how's it going"? I need to find an affordable eBike Carrier for my niece, I just gifted her a used Pedego Comfort Cruiser as a "learning" bike. Can you recommend a budget friendly but well made Carrier? I have a Thule T2 or something like that, heavy, no ramps, no fold-up, no built in license tag holder or lights.
Thank you...!
As always another great e-bike review. How loud is the motor whine on this bike? One of my pet peeves is e-bike motor whine. Also looking at the VanPowers UrbanGlide Pro and that one is nearly silent. Thanks again and keep up the great work.
At $1200-1300 this would be lit. I wont say more. Great job as always, awesome bike
That would be a shockingly low price. I feel like it's priced right at least when you look at the competition.
@@EbikeEscape i agree, they ALL need to bring their outrageous profits down and obtain more sales. That's the issue now, there is a ton of competition
Not much like this that is cheaper. It's in the right zone. It's well equipped, and if offered with choice of accessory bundles, I'd buy it
Buying this bike 11/20/24 so excited
Be sure to use our link 😁
Curious does the software remember your previous PAS level? For example i was on Trail PAS 3 but had to go to boost for a wuick "boost". If i put it back to trail will i remember PAS 3? Thanks
My area has a lot inclines at tunnels and bridges. 20 - 30 ft elevation changes with ramps 100 - 200 ft. long. The ramp entrances have sharp turns, so I can't build up much speed on approach. I'd need to maintain 20 - 25 mph to keep up with traffic. How do you think the Discover 2 would handle it? Throttle only and also with me cranking? I've seen cadence sensor bikes zipping up those ramps. Just curious thow a torque sensor setup would perform, as I understand that it requires more effort from the rider. Thanks! Appreciate the review.
Just throttle up the hills, it'll handle. It just fine
Is there a way to secure the bike if course in combination with an actual lock? Like on my Lectric you need the key to start, and the Lectric xpress you can power down the battery and lock it up so no one can turn it on without the keys to unlock the battery to turn the battery on. I was wondering if the discover 2 has some type of locking feature, as I understand the key is just to simply remove the battery.
What phone holder is this?...I have a bulky foam phone case and this would work for me.
I'd love if they made these controls and display compatible with existing models as an upgrade. The old five-way switch isn't a great eyes off mode switching control
I’ve had my Blix Aveny for almost a year now but I’m very much ready to upgrade for more power, speed, and range. Just when I thought I had my options narrowed down between Aventon Pace 500.3 (lighter weight and similar to my Blix) and the new Radster Road (750w motor) then I watched your video on the Discover 2. Now I feel like I’m back to square one. This might be a silly question but are there any other option to make the cables more cleaned up. Everything about this bike looks amazing except the mess of wires!
Nice complete review. Seems like a full features commuter bike.
Thanks! That's the goal
Is it possible to get a derailleur guard?
You mentioned that boost spacing on front fork might allow slightly wider tires. Will the fenders allow for that also? Do you think I could go from these Kenda 27.5 x 2.4's to Shwalbe Johnny Watts 27.5 x 2.8?
Can't say for sure sorry.
So it goes faster on the throttle class 2 that while pedaling in class 3. Isn’t that illegal right outta the box?
What is the weight with and without the battery? Is there a difference in weight between the two frames sizes
This is a great bike which I am considering. I am also trying to compare it to the step thru Ride1up Lmtd v2. Ryan, your reviews are so thorough, Is there any major definitive difference that would help me decide. The price difference is non consequential. It appears that the LMTD is lighter, which is important for my bike rack maximum payload. Both bikes have the capabilities that I would prefer. I do wonder about the complexities of actively using 15 iterations of pas.
I was in this exact place yesterday. I ended up going with the discover 2 as it seems a bit more future proof overall, but the weight is definitely something to consider for the bike rack, but I would remove the battery to lower the weight on the bike rack. For me, the main driving factor was having slightly longer range and being ipx7 rated as I plan on using it for daily commuting and we get lots of rain where I am from. I think it’s over kill, but definitely gives me peace of mind. The app is also much more intuitive and allows for easy customization of each assist iteration so that you only cycle through the ones actually needed and not all 15. Both the LMT’d v2 and Discover 2 are excellent overall packages though, so good luck!
Also, I think the velotric is significantly louder than the LMTDV2. I have the V2, it is near silent. @@edsonmoreno7422
Can you do an updated video with the firmware update showing the difference in the feel of the cadence sensor vs the torque sensor. New update allows user to choose between them on the app while connected to the bike. Pretty sweet that it allows over the air updating via app. Keeps this bike refreshed and work out any potential bugs spotted.
Possibly, just have lots of new bikes to review
How does this ebike compare to the Mokwheel Asphalt ST?
Beautiful bike! I have a Radpower City 5 plus....I was considering getting a Radpower Radster Road...how would this Velotric compare? I'm in Canada. Is this a US model only? No local Velotric dealers in Canada...all ebikes are getting heavier and heavier...how can they expect seniors (I'm 58 and healthy) to deal with 70lbs bikes? But I can't deny this one is a beauty. Thanks for the video
How well does the Discovery 2 operate on dirt roads or trails?
Its meant for urban, paved areas!
In the trails, you'd want a Summit 1.
I would consider widening your knees when you ride it may just be the video but your knees look very narrow; if you widen them out a bit you can get better leverage through your ankles on the pedals. No hate just relate, I do the same. I also have ordered myself a Large Mint Discover 2 and am excited for it to arrive
Also dont let me tell you how to ride from a single video haha. Just an idea about widening your knees a bit for pedal leverage over the ankles
Liked and subscribed! I appreciate you!
Do they let you keep the ebike for free that you’re reviewing?
It depends on the bike
Sounds like a terrific bike if one doesn't mind the weight but it is too heavy for this 75 yr old.! I agree that it sounds overly complex all the riding modes.
I'd love to see some of these features show up as an upgrade to the T1 ST; namely, the richly featured rear tail light, the adjustable stem, the controller and screen with all those options,. If all that added 3 bs the T1 would still be a nice manageable 39 lbs A bit more battery would be nice but not essential. Please tell us that Velotric has that in the works for the T1 ST!
Yes the weight is certainly a factor.
@@EbikeEscape I'm very close to purchasing their T1 ST, But I see they just introduced their new Discover 2 with lots of really nice upgrades such as turn signals .... Since you may have an inside line to Velotric, perhaps you have some idea when they will bring out an updated version of the T1 & if it will have some of the new features such as turn signals, throttle .... Thanks!
Couple notes here. Some of the features listed here aren't standard equipment when ordering ie: the phone holder is a paid option. Same with the pricey basket. Mirror etc.
So the bike featured here won't be $1699.
I tried to call them out. Apologies if it wasn't clear.
Heavy. Looks like a great bike but at 80 years of age I really don’t want to load it into my Honda Odyssey even with a wheelchair ramp. My Aventon Pace 500.3 is less than 50 lbs without the battery.
Extremely heavy especially with battery. I think it’s over 70 lbs with battery.
Agree, weight is a factor for some riders.
I wish that the weight was less 50 lbs or less. But does have a lot of nice features. One feature that would be nice is the ability to switch between torque and cadence, I have seen other e-bikes that have this option.
Yeah unfortunately I feel like generally people don't want the tradeoffs - smaller battery and motor.
Roll it rearward and the chain comes off the front sprocket. Bad Deal. Frame geometry is really weird. Throttle up is terrible. Hard to get comfortable on it. All in all Id give it a 5 out of 10.
Did anyone noticed a bike called summit 1 at 7:43 when he was trying to add a new bike on the app? Did I miss something or is that a new bike that Velotric is working on that was not meant to be shown yet? Or I’m I just crazy and that bike is already out?
Yes Summit is a new bike coming by Velotric. It’s a mountain bike. I am a dealer and already have it in stock.
shhhhh
They jacked up the price by $200 its now $1800.was planing on getting one until i saw the price. will waiti until they bring it down or look elsewhere.
I was thinking the same thing, but when I see how much comes with this bike, and all the ratings above safety ratings, water resistance ratings, as well as the ability to update the firmware to allow for adjustments and feature enhancements. Velotric just released an update which brought a new feature, cadence/torque swap where you can choose what type of sensor you want, it’s like having two bikes in one. I have reconsidered this bike after I test drove it at my local ebike store. So worth the money. I’m picking one up in a couple of weeks.
Also Black Friday deals will be dropping in a few weeks, have not heard anything official yet, but my dealer mentioned some Black Friday deals on other eBikes in a similar type of other brands like Aventon and ride one up.
Disappointing plastic peddles, sloppy wires and the chainring/chainwheel has no back side.
Why not go up hill and give us a comment,that's what we're looking for
Looks like Velotric better get back to basics. This looks way over engineered.