I am one of those owners that watches you. Our captain always insists on life jackets for the kids etc. when in position to be exposed to the water. At the start of every cruise the Chief Stew takes the kids on a tour even if they are ours (ours say boring) and makes sure they know to tell an adult if they see certain things, and then what to do if certain things happen like fire or a person goes overboard and there are no adults around. However, and thank you Sys-it waters down when it comes to the adults. We get a briefing on where to be when the submarine is being moved or the tenders are being put in the water, the helicopter is landing etc. but thanks to you the complacency is over. My Captain called me and said he wants to start a new safety program without exemption that we all have to go through when we board and before anyone has drink to get a better idea of what to do if something were to happen. Thank you five stars as always ESys
Submarine? Helicopter? How much fun is that!! I would add the important safety tip. Don't step on a fish hook. 🙄 I saw it happen as a kid while on a kids, shore-based fishing excursion. Kids and fishing lines everywhere and minimal shoes.
Bless you & your Capt. for taking up the lessons on this unbelievable tragedy. I've wondered how scary that would have been for everyone in my mind, to then imagine having it on the sea at night, it had to be absolute terror 😭
Bravo and Thank you for sharing this with us all.. and your kudos to Esysman !! I have had plenty of billionaire and millionaire friends but just Based on what you have said and the fact that you shared it tells me that you are one of those rare individuals that have done well and yet do not allow their arrogance and or self-absorption to interfere with the best choices that you can make to preserve the lives of those that you love and those that are around you... You deserve whatever you have been able to achieve, and you have a lucky family and friends. Stay the person that you are.. under any and all circumstance.
In 2019, I lost five close friends at once when they were trapped by a fire on a dive boat in California. None of the crew were awake when the fire broke out, despite there being a requirement for someone to remain on watch. Three of my friends were RN’s who, like me, had also spent time working as first responders…meaning they knew how to handle themselves in an emergency. There was a hatch my friends could have used to escape the fire when it blocked the stairs, yet the hatch was never opened. I’m fairly certain no one pointed that hatch out to them when they came aboard, otherwise they would have at least tried to open it. I hope regulations are enacted, where emergency drills become mandatory on all passenger boats, so that people trapped down below have at least some chance of survival.
I thought of this tragedy today. You are referring to the aft hatch. It was pretty small and practically inaccessible. Knowing about it at least would have given them a chance. Very sorry for your loss, that was just terrible.
@@mbspoobahyes, it was a small aft hatch. We’ll never know if an escape was possible, because no one tried opening it. The crew quickly abandoned ship, leaving every passenger to die down below. I have no idea how they live with themselves.
I'm a Port State Control Examiner for the USCG, and I examine foreign yachts that visit our ports. I tell every crew, ALL PASSENGERS (owner or guest) should be taking part in drills for emergencies. If you don't, then you could ultimately die from ignorance. Money won't save you, but knowing how to effectively escape a sinking vessel can. Also, all vessels are sinkable. It's a shame people say that about some vessels. I think it does the industry a disservice to say something as atrocious as that to mariners. A true mariner knows everything necessary to survive at sea. All others are just spectators willing to roll the dice with their life. Rich or not. Awesome coverage of the incident. Definitely following your page. Cheers.
Where did I hear that before ? Sounded like “ Even God could’ve not sink the TITANIC”. But it sank. And I gave no idea about even sailing a regular little boat. Thanks!
We lived right on the eastern shore of Lake Ontario. A freak waterspout jumped over our house and dumped thousands upon thousands of gallons of water in our neighbors backyard. I have also seen waterspouts materialize in an instant in the gulf off of S Florida. I think that people who are downplaying the potential impact of “water tornados” have never witnessed the incredible force that these phenomena can carry, and just how small of an area they can cover.
@relaxer37 Your comment seems entirely fake and would suggest you are prone to exaggeration and a degree of attention seeking. At no point during the video was there any sign of him being emotional. Why do you feel the need to make things up?
I agree w relaxer. Sysman is crisper- encrispado. He is hitting on all the crucial life details. I myself add the "karma"/nature alive one: mistakes are not all forgiven. the reply from the other person is terrible -- karma, buddy: it will find you like it finds all of us. Ps biggerissue's acct is 1 yr old: he has definitely some bigger issue.
@@biggerissues6085 When eSysman mentioned the body of Hannah Lynch was recovered, he showed emotion. You just have missed it. Moreover…, if you have nothing good to say, better stay silent. Why do you feel you have to make such a nonsensical comment? Are you perhaps the attention seeker?
He is not so much angry as frustrated. Having served at sea for so many years he will have seen all the bad practices that go on and which he was effectively powerless to correct, (despite the presentations, paperwork and official line that would say otherwise), that no doubt led to this tragedy
I worked on private yachts for 20 years as chief stew/cook/mate and was one of the few crew who didn't drink. The irresponsibility I witnessed with crew was alarming. When working a job like that and being responsible for someone's floating mansion and peoples safety, we must always be sober minded and vigilant. It happened a few times when I would secure all portholes and doors prior to being underway, a guest would open portholes after being told not to. People need to realize the importance of responsibility and order while at sea.
Yes, the crew have a duty to be careful about safety; and perhaps owners and guests feel an absolute right to do as they please, without considering safety enough. Foolish.
Your continued coverage is the best I've ever seen on any topic. I appreciate your detailed explanations as well your compassion and professionalism. I'd imagine new rules will issued do to this catastrophic event. Mother nature will always win.
I'm a person who could not even remotely think about buying a superyacht and I haven't ever been a guest on one in my life but I can tell you that without fail I have watched your YT channel for years. I find your style of videos extremely informative and enjoyable to watch and I like your style of reporting. You seem like an authentic and genuinely kind and caring person and we just don't have enough of that in this world so that's another reason why I continue to watch your videos. If my fortunes ever changed and I was suddenly able to afford a stay on a superyacht for a holiday, asking me to participate in emergency preparedness drills would not upset me or hinder my enthusiasm as a guest one bit. Participating in potentially life saving drills sounds like best practices to me so I would consider this a very reasonable expectation as a guest. I don't think that guests or owners should consider their participation in emergency drills as an inconvenience to endure but rather as a necessary investment of time that could potentially save their lives. Pleasure is one thing, but it should never be at the expense of everyone's safety and that includes the owners, their guests and their valued crew members. Thanks for doing such a marvelous job covering this very tragic story. Im very sorry that so many lives were lost in this event. I pray for all of those people who were lost as well as for those who were lucky enough to survive the ordeal. Stay safe and God bless you.
i am not saying safety drills have no value but there is no safety drill in the world that would have helped these people trapped in their cabins when the boat had capsized. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous at best.
Well said! I also have never sailed on a yacht. However, in the 1950’s & 60’s my father was in the US Navy. At the time, families were often transported across the oceans by passenger ship. At 72, I have vivid memories of being 3 years old and traveling with my mother and baby sister from San Francisco to Honolulu by sea. A few years later we crossed the Atlantic from the US east coast to live in North Africa. The return trip was aboard an actual 1960’s cruise ship, the USS Independence. Decades later I saw her anchored in Honolulu while I was on a business trip. I well remember the safety drills every voyage, when all aboard were mustered to the decks. I am appalled at the seemingly lax standards on private vessels. They might have saved lives on the Bayesian tragedy. Emphasis on “might” because freak storms happen.
One thing that may be worth clarifying - especially for the American audience - is that in Italy the judiciary has a constitutional OBLIGATION to open a criminal procedure against people whenever people die. The fact there is a criminal investigation on this case is no different and it’s just a consequence of this constitutional obligation. They are not doing because they think someone has to be charged and put to jail. They are doing it because its the law: you cannot not open a criminal investigation trying to understand if someone has to be charged if people died. That is the constitutional starting point , not a discretionary decision (or conclusion) by the judges So do not read too much into that
Thanks for your in-depth reporting on this issue. You are THE best source for this story. I've gone on the Telegraph, New York Times, other TH-cam channels, etc., and your provide the best coverage. I also like how you call out the conspiracy theories and debunk the rumors. You're an experienced source.
I'm not a yacht owner, but I'm still a fan of this channel. Quite shocking to hear that emergency drills for the owners and guests are not standard procedure!
a well run boat will have a very basic cover of like "this is what the emergency sounds are, this is where your life jacket is, this is where we want you to go in an emergency, but thats about it
@@Simon-ho6ly I've been on a few charters and most of the time, there wasn't any safety drills. Also on some of the yachts it wasn't very obvious where things like lifejackets were inside cabins. I think that is a very short sighted decision that may be because interior design trumps safety. If I were ever fortunate enough to become an owner, I would make this a required part of the boat tour. This is the sun deck, here are the life rafts, these are the escape routes. It need not take much and every guest should be familiar with this type of briefing from flying.
This was a big problem for those on the Costa Concordia too. Amazing how it takes diasters and loss of life, before policies are implemented across the board.
It seems to me that you are all misrepresenting the words of the CEO of the Italian Sea Group. He said that the sailing ship was unsinkable if the crew had followed normal safe navigation procedures. Since this was not done and hatches were left open and the drift lifted with a strong storm coming in then the ship sank only because of inexperience or malice, not because of any defects in the ship.
@@sgviti the words "unsinkable" shouldn't be used with any vessel. I don't care what rules are followed or how good the crew is, if mother nature wants to claim something, she damn well will.
Thanks for the update and very good points. As a professional captain and owner of three yachts for many years I have been mentioning most of what you say already for days. People talking about this accident should be aware that this is not a perfect world and we should learn form this but blaming one or another is easy but not fair. In this case where a nearby ship survived it is clear that something immense hit them and disaster could have hardly be avoided. And sure, the lifting keel maybe up has not helped in any way. But also there. Most yachts sail under engine with the keel up and not drop it while on anchor. I would have and in most instances I did for 70% of the time. Yes, probably aft hatch open, maybe watertight doors. And for sure, owner and guests not briefed properly. It all leads to this and making owners aware that these drills are vital is important. I brief guests (almost weekly) always since they are guests on our ships. Therefor it is easy, they have to listen. But having worked on a super yacht I know that with the owner on board it is quite different.
I'm of the opinion that boat drills would have made no difference... Imagine your the passenger in your large stateroom. You've had your one drill, your dosing off, and the huge yacht your enjoying is suddenly,and violently knocked down... Everything is thrown to the Lee side...including you. In a large stateroom,you could be thrown 10 meters. Your injured, heavy things are falling on you,the power is gone, it's pitch black, the waters rushing in, the screaming has started,an alarm may be howling, your half conscious and confused... Could YOU make it out? You could practice for years, and everything still has to go perfectly, and your reactions be instinctive for you to survive...an occasional guest dosnt have anywhere near the training and experience...those deeper below decks had no chance.
Good point: and probably very close to what happened there Once again: a competent officer on watch looking at the radar could have avoided all of this....
One look at that top heavy MAST with all its weighty stuff attached even without the sail pulled up would give me pause. Then to discover this super yacht does not even possess a proper KEEL, I would be hesitant to go to sea in the Bayesian, much less sleep at anchor with the keel retracted and the hotel sized windows right at the waterline fully opened, IN A MISTRAL? Sleep on deck or spend the night in a hotel, trust your survival instincts.
We're going to find out wether or not,that the crew was already on deck, tending to things in deteriorating weather...then they suddenly got slammed. I'm thinking this is more a microburst scenario...very unfortunate.
As a boat owner myself you always need to be up to speed with the weather but things change so quickly on the water, when it comes to personal safety you cannot prepare enough, my few basic rules are that I keep knives at strategic points on the boat, everyone must have pfds on, coils of rope at strategic points, and I always tow a decent sized inflatable boat, when things go wrong on the water they go wrong quick.
I was a day charter skipper on a dinky type of sweet yacht ( westsail 32) working on the West Coast in South Africa many years ago. One day when I was berthing a guest put his hand out and it was crushed between a wooden post and the chain plate. I remember how quickly a perfect day turned into a nightmare. My boss had the man rushed to hospital and operated on. -: I feel tremendous compassion for the Captain and crew at this dreadful time! Thanks for this wonderful video.
I've had a think I know what happened, and you are hearing it here first!!! They dropped the keel for stability in a panic.....and it just kept going to the bottom.... the yacht capsized immediately. I bet they find the keel separate from the hull!! They saw the weather, first instinct was to stabilize, they dropped the keel, it keep going. The chocking mechanism when fully deployed failed. VERY HEAVY KEEL, Deployed too fast?
There was a warning issued with plenty of time to prepare apparently, enough time to get the guests off the boat onto dry land until the storm blew over.
Why is there a warning from eSysman Superyachts to all viewers of this cast. Are we ultra sensitive about this tragedy when no one appears to have mentioned you negatively. Whatever happened to free speech?
Narcissists think they're special, and that they're too special for anything to happen to them (as if the world would stop turning if it did). They are delusionally grandiose...and believe rules and laws apply to other but not to them. This is part of the diagnostic criteria for doing a differential diagnosis. The more of a braggart and boaster someone is, the more narcissistic they are. They are the men, women, and teens, who need to display their wealth because they think others will "admire" them, and they are driven by obtaining public admiration from others. This is a very real, and very prevalent disorder in the broader population. It's very common in work-a-holics and certain billionaires, mega-millionaires, and the people at your local country club. Yes, seriously. Narcissists destroy the fabric of society with their disregard for the safety of others, much in the same way sociopaths and psychopaths do the same, but for different (but similar) reasons. They all believe they are above the law, and the rules of society.
To be fair, there's probably no drill for navigating a dark passageway that's been rotated 90 degrees and the wall is now the "floor", the hatch will now be sideways and you have to crouch and climb through it, and do all that while taking on water AND after having been knocked out of bed or off the couch.
I spent 3 years working offshore and another 20 in the mining industry. You cannot anticipate every situation and train for it, that is not the only purpose of doing the drills. For me, the drills equip you to be robotic and safe in mist of danger. Unfortunately I have worked on sites where people have died, and you do not want to be dealing with equipment and procedures for the first time when you are dealing with such an event.
Sir. I’m not a boaty and actually I can’t remember why I subscribed… I love this channel and this is possibly your most important video EVER. You were a tad nervous at the start but when you got into the ‘crew quarters and sleep deprivation… safety orientation and changes in situation’ your seamanship expertise shone thru….you’ve clearly done this xxxx.For owners that watch this content …this is a game changer….no longer can you say “children must wear buoyancy aids’ …… our sons and daughters are serving the strawberry’s and tea in the glorious sunset evening’s, they have the right to live and survive ….. you are responsible for all souls when conditions change. Please keep up this content… do not stop digging… we all should sleep in our bunks SAFELY
Hi, Many years ago, my parents paid for a trip on the Sail Training Ship, Sir Winston Churchill. At that time vital was part of the Outward Bound organisation which encouraged young people to experience things outside their comfort zones. I was very fortunate. The memories of the first two days at sea, leaving Birkenhead & travelling down the St George's channel and the Irish Sea in a force 9 gale were an experience, where I learnt how insignificant we are, when it comes to the power of nature. It is so sad that we have lost an entrepreneur to an avoidable setbof circumstances. I am a Rotarian who is responsible for Health & Safety in my District in England. The investigation is essential but your comments that owners & guests must take part in safety drills is spot on. Thanks for a great channel and take care. Andy
You might clarify that charter guests - those hiring superyachts for a week or two to cruise a particular area - do genrally get a pre-cruise safety brief. Private yachts or charter yachts when the UBO is using the boat, are a different story. The owner and close family being familiar with their surroundings onboard may well not feel they need such a safety brief nor would wish any guests they have brought with them inconvenienced by one. When an owner is reluctant to do anything, even something as patently important as this, a Captain may well have to tread carefully when insisting. It should also be born in mind that the regulations for private yachts carying less than 12 guests are minimal compared with the same yacht if carrying more than 12 guests or if registered as a commercial yacht.
@ecnaruaL.." When an owner is reluctant to do anything, even something as patently important as this, a Captain may well have to tread carefully when insisting." I suspect this event might change some minds
Wow. I would think any Captain should insist in no uncertain terms that everyone MUST be given the drill. I dont give a damn what Mr Richie Rich thinks. Sure, he owns the boat but as Captain it needs to be perfectly clear the he is responsible for the safe operation and safety of all on board. The Captain is in charge of the vessel. THAT’S why he is CAPTAIN!
Like A LOT. Former writer of SOLAS documentation here. I know there are many guarding against early speculation regarding this accident. However, there is a plain to see picture forming based on information from dozens of sources across the sector. In fact, it is similar to the situation seen with private helicopters. Basically, your money cannot buy your way out of physics.
It's a similar story to the helicopter crash with Kobe Bryant where the captain flew in fog, not having instrument navigation, only visual, despite fog warnings. I think captains will veer away from safety protocol when they have clients with a lot of money.
Thank you for speaking the truth about rich reality. As a CPA and senior auditor to Billionaires, seldom do they want or care for realtity, truth and bluntness. Workers are rewarded for " respect and difference" A person earning a billion is different from the person spending a billion. Arrogance is the deadly sin.
I was a guest on a dive yacht off Cairns many years ago . Give them their due, we were hardly off the dock before a full safety briefing was carried out. Perhaps the SOPs for day charters are different from when the owner is on board for an extended trip. When surveying a boat safety is always top priority but many ignore basic safety including, in some cases, even the body issuing quality or compliance qualifications, or they try to passs some of that responsibility over to others. Not room here to quote specifics but bottom line is "Dead is Dead" safety should never be passed over. Water is not our natural environment and can be dangerous. For example in the USA alone an average of 10 people a year die from just falling into a marina.
I think this is one of your best videos ever...!! You hit on all the key points of the uncertainty of rushing to blame until both the vessel and crew are investigated in detail. Your SAFETY summary, especially when it comes to guests and owners participating in drills is timely and this event shows a weakness we have all had as captains in not doing an actual muster station drill with guests rather than the introductory talk we mostly do. Well done!
unless the safety drill is going to include a free climbing course, an underwater swimming course all done blindfold there isn’t a safety course in the world that would have helped these people. I’d it us ouch dark, The ship is on its side and the cabin door is 20’ above your head - how are you supposed to reach it never mind open it and find your way out?
@supertuscans9512 Given that some of the guests and most of the crew did escape I don't think it stayed as bad as you describe. I can easily imagine the initial knock-down then righting to a leeward list as immense downflooding from the open Aft sliding doors caused bodily sinkage as she slowly went down by the stern in 12-15 minutes . There was time if they could visualize the escape route in the dark But my point is that an improvement on guest training to find their escape options is not a bad thing in the industry Maybe it should even be made mandatory
@@supertuscans9512 You're right IF the yacht rolled on the surface. Something weird happened in the hour between dragging anchor and sinking but hey-ho what do I know except AIS appears to show Bayesian was stern to the wind for that hour..
"Unsinkable" a bold statement, a little like saying an un-spinable aircraft in aviation. Not being involved with Super Yachts I am surprised there no requirement for a qualified person on the bridge at all times, and no safety Drills for Guests. My career dictated I had to attend a Helicopter Under Water Escape Drills Regularly, I can confirm it is really disorientating when you go upside down under water, then have to escape from the cabin, and thats in a swimming pool environment, and knowing ahead of time it is going to happen.
I think you are right about those watertight doors. A lot of this is hubris imo and I think the investigation will likely find that. A criminal investigation has been opened. The vessel data that has already been accessed seems to show the vessel shaking violently (a waterspout?) at 3.50 am and the anchor breaking. It then showed the vessel moving approx 350 meters before sinking just 16 mins later. So what the crew did in that 16 mins is as critical as what the overnight mooring protocol was on board. Your point about boats drills is correct. The first thing I check when travelling on any ship is where the life rafts decks are, where the life jackets are and that the walkways and doorways to those things are not locked. I have to say that on many occasions, I have found exits to life raft decks locked and in one case chained on commercial ferries. I now travel with my own inflatable life jacket, because I just do not trust the ability or experience of staff to get people off quickly. Ex Navy here, so evacuation drills and shipping hazards are muscle memory
In 16 mins, there would be time to alert the owner/guests and have them assemble in the lounge in lifejackets - if that was the fire drill plan. Instead, we have the lady with the baby saying she was already on deck and the next thing she knew, she was in the water. Since the cook was found in the water and outside the vessel, it suggests he had come out from the quarters along with all the staff. Perhaps he was the last one out and/or got hurt when everyone was thrown overboard. Meaning that all the staff got out in time - why not the others.
@@Mady-lo6qb Yeah, it sounds as though the vessel was already listing and then rolled and sank very quickly. The crew (who mostly slept in the bow compartments), were able to get up on deck quickly through the forward hatch. The engineer slept in a stern compartment behind the engine room and survived, probably through the aft hatch. The guests who died slept in the guest cabins that were in the middle lower deck of the hull. I had a look at the plans and the hull had five compartments with watertight bulkheads in between. Two compartments could flood without it sinking, but that required the watertight doors in those bulkheads to be closed. The bodies were found at opposite ends of the hull. The deck lounge had glass watertight sliding doors. So lots of questions there. Were the watertight doors open (and that includes hatches)? Did the failure to have the keel down take away the ability of the vessel to right itself if blown over with that high mast? The guests that survived seemed to have been on the upper deck, sleeping in the lounge areas. What was the level of preparedness of the crew for monitoring weather patterns and storm protocol? What was the protocol for evacuation in a worst case scenario, and how often was that practised? Engline power is essential in storms to maintian control. The boat that rescued those who made it to a life raft has said how he saw the weather turning and got the engines on and prepped his vessel for it. If he had time to do that, so did the captain of the Bayesian.
If you've ever worked on boats like this, when engines or generators are running (at least one generator running to supply power to HVAC system), the noise in the engine room is pretty damned loud, even with the generators enclosed in their sound protection covers. It becomes automatic to close those bulkhead doors every time you exit the engine room to keep the sound and heat isolated. Of course, there's a chance a door was open during crew prep for approaching storm at the worst possible moment. Also, it's VERY common for "deck hands" to perform anchor watch duties, so there were at least 4 possibilities including the 1st mate, in addition to Captain and Engineer, but you'll rarely see either on an anchor watch.
The 40ft sailing mono that I raced on was only meters away from the Catamaran that flipped in New Zealand and was not touched at all. It ripped a very defined path through the marina. I can definitely see how this has happened!! I photographed this from the top of the mast the day after the event. It was quite unbelievable!!
Appreciate your comment. Rosella was the catamarans name when it was here in Mooloolabah. Just wondering if she was in the water or on the hard when the tornado hit?
As an owner operator of both sail and motor yachts over many years (albeit much smaller craft) I have never left port with new guests before giving some sort of safety briefing. I find it incredible this is not mandatory on charter class yachts of this size.
I did military water survival and night ditching. It takes several days to work up to the final exercise. They blindfold you turn the vessel upside down and selectively block exits that you only find they are blocked when you try to open them. You must then find the breed exit in the dark. In the dark under water you do not know which way is up. No air equals panic very quickly. Once you panic you are done. Yes drills are important. Given how quickly this vessel sunk I doubt they had much of a chance. Escaping the interior.
@@tarverr.mcknightjr4439 The crew would have been topside getting ready for the day and addressing the weather - anchor dragging, turbulence etc. A sudden knockdown and they would have been thrown into the water. Same for the guests who were on deck. The life raft automatically detaches and inflates. (There were 4 apparently and they managed to snag one of them)
@@tarverr.mcknightjr4439 I have no idea. I assume that they had a clear route out through the front hatch. Just a guess until the report comes out. I think the video indicated the engineers cabin was in the back of the boat.
Thanks for sharing. With all the beds, bedding, any furniture, clothing, etc. plus water and in the dark, I'd be surprised if any survivors were on the side of the boat that went down first. Looks like starboard side, but haven't heard that said. It would have been hard for those on high side.
Very good advice. I served in royal navy, we did not just have one engineer we had 3, plus captain, 1st leftenant, navigation officers. The ship would not sail if manpower was not up to snuff. Everyday firfighting drill, man overboard drills were practiced, along with first aid, and lifeboat drills, during daylight and night hours.
have a sailing yacht 47.5 Meters very similar to the Bayesian, ours is S/Y MITseaAH. We have a similar tall mast and boom, a Marina deck at the stern, a keel that moves down when sailing and up for power operation. This event has made me revisit all operations aboard our vessel. My heart sank when I heard about this incident and especially the loss of life.
Beautiful boat! And I love how nautical, warm & cozy it feels despite its size! (as opposed to the look & feel of a slick condominium like the boat under discussion here)
Yet: anything can happen. Those "water spouts" sometimes seem to have a mind of their own, like hurricanes and their accompanying twisters of all sizes. Very mysterious.
Something I had never thought about. I simply assumed that this would be standard practice on any large vessel. Thank you for bringing this to my attention and a more sensible and intelligent presentation of the events.
On our private 70' yacht, we show all our guests, soon after boarding, the location of all life jackets, emergency raft, medical kit, fire equipment and we briefly discuss general emergency procedures like MOB (man overboard). In any emergency, all people are instructed to come up on deck. It only takes 5 minutes and what I find most interesting is, the guests really appreciate it. In fact, additional questions and discussions about boat safety and what to do in various emergency situations take place long after the initial emergency instructions.
Worked as a yacht skipper for several years and a deck hand before that and never known a boat owner or guests ever participating in any emergency drills!
@@mirandahotspring4019 cause its somehow not deemed important just like esysman shows its not to important otherwise the message would not have been all the way at the end of the vid but more in the start just to get the point across.not everybody watches till the end and it is a very important message in my eyes especially considering the lack off the training of the owners .
Voilà. Probably there is some mathematical anthropological IQ money formula for these situations. I had a small Everglades boat: unsafe pax never again allowed. The Everglades can be as deadly as The Mediterranean
If you are inside one of these super yachts in a freak storm and it suddenly is flipped onto it's side, you only have seconds to save yourself. As the water rushes in, the incoming torrent will sweep you off your feet and push you deeper inside along with everything else not bolted down. Those near an exit or outside on the deck have a better chance of survival.
The combination of the height of the mast with a keel centerboard is so ungainly that the vessel is entirely dependent on human decision. It can't take care of itself like a well balanced boat. Scary
@@alc5792 The Titanic was claimed by its builders to be 'practically unsinkable'. It was a bold claim, but slightly less bold than the 'unsinkable' claims that movies have added to the story.
any boat that displaces water with air is sinkable. Solid and lighter than water is not sinkable, like a surfboard. Last I recall, we require air to live.
I was a semi-pro/ professional private sailing yacht/racing sailboat crew and captain for a good number of years and sailed +100,000nm (w/100's of guests, crew) on primarily small (~25 M) vessels. In my experience, besides one non race-boat owner the only time vessels did emergency drills when the owner was onboard was when they participated in some ocean racing events because it was required. None of the bigger yachts I crewed on (mostly temporary positions) did drills when guests/owners were onboard.
@@deankruse2891 I imagine it is being asked of the command staff how much thought they put into the storm warnings that morning as more successfully perhaps exemplified by the older sailing yacht anchored ahead of them.
@@TB-zf7we i am not aware of what the older sailing yacht did differently, but not closing a hatch or window would be catastrophic in that storm. If the boat is intact on the sea floor, then it wasn't really a design flaw with teh yacht, any vessel would have been knocked down by those winds given the boats orientation and manner of mooring.
I was also a semi- professional skipper with paying guests on boats only up to 16m. But we always made an intense safety - instruction before leaving the harbour first time. Lasting for ca. 3 hours .
Your conclusion at the end of the video summed up my thoughts. As an airline pilot for over thirty years I wondered about the drills required for passengers. I hope owners will rethink the lackadaisical opinion of emergency preparedness going forward. Also, even if the boat was prepared for heavy weather, when the boat heeled over to near 90 degrees, the pax, having not been properly briefed may have opened otherwise watertight doors. The sea, as the air, is a very unforgiving medium.
That is shocking to me that it’s not typical for yacht owners and their guests to participate in an evacuation drill. Seems like something that should be required by law, like wearing a seatbelt in a car.
It is required by law. They just can't be arsed and the Captain would fear for his job if he was to demand the law was followed. This is the marine world - would never happen in the aviation industry.
As always very well stated very well said I started out at 18 in air sea rescue worked in the shipbuilding business building Navy ships for 30 years. I have never give up sailing. I am 82 and still own and sale a 40 foot sailboat. I always enjoy your ventures on TH-cam.
Really good to hear you're still in good health and sailing at 82 years young. A friend of mine said at 45 he started flying a plane and at 50 riding a motorcycle. He stopped flying at 80 when he said he had to think about things that should come automatically. He was still riding at 85 when he retired from the YMCA I taught in. Said it kept him young. May your sailing do the same for you for many more years.
How much do you want for your boat? (sorry, I'm feeling cheeky, and I couldn't resist - since you said you "sale" your boat). Great size of boat by the way - big enough to have some room, but still small enough to handle with two people (or one if you're particularly organised and spritely). At that size everything is still small enough to have a bit of directness to the controls (going up to boat sizes where electric winches are needed means sailing just doesn't feel like sailing anymore in my opinion). As a dinghy sailing maniac, my ideal size yacht is around 28 - 32 feet (so long as I don't have to live on it!). Boats that size can still feel like big dinghies - especially if they have a tiller and the mainsail winch has been ditched and replaced with something like a 4:1 and 12:1 block combo (don't quote me on the exact ratios - just that the setup has a mainsheet within a mainsheet - one for big movements of the boom under light loads and another for nipping up that last bit of tension when things are on tight and everything is leaning over. No clunky winch on the main lets you sit on the side of the cockpit with tiller in one hand and mainsheet in the other playing the boom in and out in the gusts. Nearly bought a boat like that (a young rocket 780) a number of years ago (but, sadly it was not to be).
The keel is central to understanding this issue. Sailing boats and yachts are designed to remain upright, even with sails raised in strong winds. In my experience, I've only seen a sailboat capsize and stay on its side when the keel has come loose. Normally, if a boat is knocked over, it should right itself before enough water enters to compromise its stability. This raises questions about such occurrences.
Fascinating video and good to hear some truths and facts about the boat and crew. I'm a qualified commercial yacht skipper though never worked on anything as big as this. As you say crew is ten, but just 3 qualified watch keepers, and they need their time off as much as anyone.
I found this channel by accident. Didn’t know I would enjoy it so much. Very well done, professional, thoughtful, easy going but serious at the same time, informative, likable…,
To some commenters about open hatches: Visit such a yacht and go through. You will be in large areas were no natural airflow can occur. Living in there is only possible by aircon since it not only cools the cabins but also air them. This and other aircon is always on and the doors are usually closed.
Especially in a storm with high wind and rain. It's been mentioned though that the crew could have come up harch from berthing area through the hatch and left it open. Very possible they came up to respond to anchor dragging before water spout.
Small tornadoes can do incredible things. I remember in my house garden we had a small tornado that snapped some tree and threw meters away an heavy old iron stove, while leaving untouched an half empty plastic bottle of water.
I remember in my youth I was driving a big John Deere tractor in west Texas, saw and ran into a Dust Devil which is just a small cousin of a spout or tornado, well that got my attention. If these guys indeed got hit by a spout, all bets are off and there is nothing in the manual.
Sy Bayesian, formally Salute, has a GRT of 473, and was built to the UK large commercial yacht code for vessel under 500 GRT. The code is less stringent for vessels under 500 GRT. A similar length motor yacht, would be well over 500 GRT. Assuming she takes charters, she must be manned and operated in compliance to the same code. For vessels under 500 GRT the code states “watertight doors in yachts under 500GT may be approved hinged doors provided that there is an audible and visual alarm on the Bridge indicating when the door is open. The doors are to be kept closed at sea and marked accordingly” Looking at the GA of this vessel, I see two hinged water tight doors in the lower deck accommodations, and one between the engine room and lazarette. While at anchor, and with guest aboard, these doors would be kept open, this is normal practice, and compliant with the large yacht code. These doors are secondary to a typical lighter bulkhead door, used as the primary door to separate the compartments. Hinged water tight doors are cumbersome and heavy, and can easily cause serious injury while trying to operate while at sea. Typically on a vessel like this, these doors are deployed when expecting very rough weather, or on a passage where access to the compartment beyond is not routine. It’s very likely the vessel took up to a 90 deg knockdown. Had she been underway at sea, and prepared for rough weather, she would have survived the event. She was simply not prepared for such a knockdown, and the resulting downflooding to whole lower deck through the one or two main deck hatches that would have been open. I doubt very much the side shell door was open.
I am a hobby captain chartering vessels. Mostly with my family. And i need to say you deliver these informations in a way that really goes deep. No finger pointing, no blame. Maybe this is one of the good things after such a tragedy: That people who want to learn, can learn from these incidents.
I think of all your very valid points, the one that demonstrates the probable cause of this accident was the film from New Zealand graphically showing the 45 metre yacht getting flattened in seconds is the most pertinent. The fact that all those on deck were ejected into the water as the yacht got flattened violently, suggests it was exactly this. All the talk of doors or hatches being open is secondary, none of the crew could ever have imagined the yacht getting knocked down, whilst at anchor with the sails stowed. Given the obvious force of nature required to do that, makes a total nonsense of trying to blame someone!
Your comment makes great sense. I was reading that sailboats should be able to right themselves with 110 to 120 degrees or more of angle. Yet this yacht even with keel down would not right itself after 88 degrees per the financial times article.
"None of the crew could ever have imagined ..." When at sea, you always plan for the unexpected. Doors, portholes, hatches, windows, should always be closed, shut and dogged down. Especially at night when there may only be two watchkeepers awake. Furthermore, a watch keeper should always be on the bridge to monitor fire alarms, radio traffic, dragging anchors and weather conditions. An intense squall as described would be visible approaching by S-band and X-band radar in which case the Captain should be alerted and appropriate actions taken.
Appreciate that you addressed my observation of the deep anchorage what a great channel ! I suspect that the Captain dare I say it thought he was aboard probably the safest Vessel in the Anchorage ? Complacency creeps in and the next thing you know the Sea will expose your fallacies ? I've been on my Vessel on the North Sea/East coast for 20 years now and the truth is there's nothing Glamorous about it at all in fact I've been under the mercy of the Sea many times through fatigue and tiredness and if she wanted to take me I'm sure it could've happened but that's the risk all real Sea lovers take ? In this instance these poor people who lost there lives probably thought they were sleeping in a boutique hotel on land and unfortunately that's the problem here as you never can totally relax especially on Anchorage at night mainly because of Drag ? I mean I've always got an emergency Grab bag to take in the event of a rapidly moving situation aboard especially at night on anchorage ? It's very sad for all involved and I bet the Crew are so traumatised aswell
All my experience is with oil tankers, working shoreside as a naval architect and marine engineer. I started working when there were still radio operators onboard. Starting in the early 1980s there was a constant push to reduce crew size. I do not believe there are sufficient numbers of crew onboard commercial vessels. I do not believe there are adequate numbers to sustain a response to say, a fire or other emergency. With regards to drills and donning life jackets, every time I sailed with a ship I was required to attend emergency drills and participate in the drill. I remember one drill where the subject was immersion, or gumby, suits. At that safety drill, the Master required that I be the one to demonstrate putting on and wearing the gummy suit. I put it on at the start of the drill and I wore it through the drill. I know how to put on an immersion suit. I learned something new at each drill. I don't care if you are an owner, a passenger, a guest, or someone from the office you should participate in safety drills. You should know where your muster station is, you should know how to put on lifesaving equipment, and what the emergency signals are. You should also know how to reach the emergency exits. Wealth does not protect you from accidents, it didn't on the Titanic, it didn't on the Titan, and it didn't in this case.
In the first week that I started a new job, there was a pretty bad earthquake. It was the first time I heard the train sound. And the first thing in my head was - crap, I don't know where the emergency exits are. 😬😬😆😆
"Necessary quarters, for the right amount of crew, for the safety of the vessel are accounted for and not instead of those things": totally agree!! Beyond tight quarters for crew where private living space is the width of a single bed is dehumanizing.
I sail my own 51 ft sailing yacht and have had problems with superyachts at anchor many times over the last 20 years. They never responded to a vhf call at night when they start to drag down on to me and once this occured in day light when they knew they were too close and promised to keep an anchor watch, which they didn't. Unfortunately, I have grown to distruss superyacht crews and always keep a wide berth and rather than argue with them. I prefer to move anchorges when they anchor too close.
Owning a boat doesn't grant one the power to disembark the Grim Reaper, who travels incognito wherever there's life. Invulnerability is only a feeling--and a deceiving one at that.
guests don't want them either, at least these luxury yacht users. they just wanna rent for a weekend or week for a party or vacation and they just wanna enjoy, safety drills unfortunately isn't what they are looking for, they want experience and are ready for to pay for it. many seem to think expensive or luxury yacht can't sink so what the point, just based on social media comments about this case. unfortunately... seems crew/captain also was little too confident about the yacht bc the bad weather wasn't surprise, they would have had time to close doors or prepare life raft but thought storm will pass...
I've been on many cruises and the attitude of 99% of the passengers is the safety drills showing everyone their 'muster station' etc was just a nuisance and half the passengers were already drunk when attending these safety drills.
I did hurricane and tornado disaster work in Florida. A hurricane will blow a computer into the next town. A tornado will pull EVERY key off a computer keyboard. Huge difference.
My grandparents used to run boats for rich people up and down the east coast of the US. What you said about older boats really reminded me of them, and they still expressed a general sort of "always under pressure while owner and guests were on board". They met on a larger crewed ship, but they spoke most often about running smaller crews, (my grandfather had is captain's license, and my step-grandmother got hers to be able to second for him) perhaps a second strewardess or chief when guests were on board, but primarily just the two of them. I've been aboard a few of them (only 2 that I actually remember) prior to them retiring, when they used to pass by where we were living. That said, the ones I remember weren't super yachts, more like very small houses than mansions (still boats, so still hella expensive), so there was only ever one or two possible exits. My grandfather and my father both grew up on the water, so safety was always sort of a balance of unalarming and real concern. No running on the docks, kids wear life jackets while outside and underway, type thing. To my knowledge, there weren't any other exits to be had, and I can't imagine getting lost, even as a small child, but it was also a "keep walking down the single hall and you'll hit steps and the deck" type deal. Larger yachts seem terrifying, and I'm someone who's not afraid of the sea (beyond the same sort of reasonable caution you'd reserve for a busy highway). The world of super yachts is an entirely different beast! (That said, my grandfather has informed me he's following this story closely. These are the sorts of ships he and my grandmother would have docked near, and they still have friends in the industry.)
It's crazy to me that most owners do not participate in a boat drill. That would be the first thing I would want to do. Even when I got my first kayak, I made sure I could self rescue by jumping out of it at sea and practicing getting back in. This should be standard practice for anyone on the water. Thanks very much for your videos on this riviting story. I look forward to them from you.
We have never done drills with our boss or his family or friends onboard. Our captain has always given bosses guests a tour of the boat which includes where the life saving equipment is. Unfortunately this is not always the way things are done on other boats
If you think about drill on cruiseships, I don't recall anything above get your lifejucket and assemble at muster point when alarm sounds. If there would be no alarm and I had to make my decisions, I could well be lost, or too late.
Thankyou for your great advice. I realize these yacht owners are used to ordering people to do this or that but in this situation their lives are at stake as we now know.
I watch your channel from time to time. This is by far the most important video I’ve seen, especially regarding owner & client safety. My father was a private pilot. On every trip he did, he briefed his passengers, eg emergency brace position, oxygen masks, emergency operation of the doors, etc. This included his family. He never took safety for granted and neither did we, and it was never an inconvenience to be briefed. And different planes have slightly different procedures and everyone no matter how often they have flown (or sailed) should ever take their briefing for granted. I also did a lot of sailing as a child and we were always briefed on safety gear, etc.
This is the problem Not enough crew not enough sleep With 1 foot 🦶 you always in jail as a captain This why I quit large yachts and charter long time ago
You’re a very wise man and I hope so owners take your advice. This is not something most of a us really want to hear about. thank you for all this information.
hi great comments about Boat Drills , yes we did at times have problems with Passngers and higher up Camp Bosses , but what I did was had them go to bridge and watch and then the crew meeting after we then went into Company meetings , we never encountered any negative feed back , we also scheduled drills around critical working times so as not to interrupt any Revenue stream, as long as you where pleasant about it and they agreed never had problems- we worried more on fire drills and abandon ship drills
I did a 4 day cruise in 2016, which i always said I'd never do, because even before Titanic came out, I was fascinated with it. But it was a Backstreet Boys cruise and I couldn't help myself. When we were doing the safety duties, I was thinking I should of brought a notebook. Everyday, I made sure there was the 2 life vests, because I'm terrible with directions, so I knew if something happened, I'd just be following the crowd and hoping they are going the right way. I couldn't imagine getting on a boat and not doing any sort of drill. Also, if I was buying a boat and the person said it was unsinkable, I'd be running away so fast, talk about a red flag
Yeah, but the time and chaos of this event is very specific. We want to blame someone, and there is an argument to be made that more should have been done, but really this was a tragic set of circumstances and not gross negligence
Taking a deep breath here. I realize that this most definitely sounds like a conspiracy theory but…I saw a huge red flag when I read that Mike Lynch’s co-defendant in the fraud case (they were acquitted) was hit (and killed) by a car a day or two later!! Does not appear to be a hit and run as the female driver was mentioned but dang that’s a helluva coincidence. “There are no coincidences” and “Make it look like an accident” flashed through my mind. The six crew members got off the yacht (one -the chef-perished) and all the passengers (including the attorney) died. At any rate, it sounds like a good story plot. Maybe there will be a movie.
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I read somewhere that there was a party on that boat (to celebrate the victory at court) which lasted the whole night. One lady who was saved with her baby said she was in bed since 5 minutes whe she felt the boat tilting. So that had to be around 4, 4.30 in the morning. And the crew toghether with the wife of Mr Lynch were all on deck at that hour... what if they were all drunk? They might have forgotten the lazarette open, they failed to start the engine to keep the bow to the wind when anchor lost its grip, and also forgot to lower the centreboard... it would not be the first time that a boat sinks because of alcohol..
It's pretty silly to say that a boat is unsinkable when is already at the bottom of the sea. The builder worries about massive lawsuits, but such statements will not help him if the enquiry finds design faults. We need to wait and see. My money is on a series of very unfortunate, extremely rare set of circumstances coming together
Among all the possible people to be blamed, usually at the end the one that will be found guilty is one of the dead. He cannot complain, so everybody is happy! 😅
There need to be mandatory safety drills, an alarm in all cabins, emergency automatic lighting, immersion suits in all cabins with compact air supply bottle that directly attaches to a face mask with a head torch built in, as recently developed and advertised on TH-cam. Why not include emergency buoyancy airbags to keep the vessel afloat when flooded? We forget how cruel the sea is, a phrase the inhabitants of Porticello use. And, Porticello residents have a special prayer when ever they see a waterspout. And, 34 Porticello residents have died at sea since 1919. And Porticello has an annual remembrance service at sea. None of us are here for long. 🙏
Thank you for the most up todate info , i f i were in charge of the investigation i would definitely raise that yacht up to see where every switch position was on the consal, check every sea cock including emergancy pumps were in the open or closrd position and the pumps were flowing in the right direction , what hatches were left open. Does the yacht have buoyancy tanks ? How much chain was out on the anchor? Was there a rear stern anchor ? Did any of the divers take pictures ? The only way you could flip a yacht that size would be air bags attached to the keel , larger ships can be launched that way .
There can never ever be an unsinkable sea vessel. That having been said, in my opinion in these early days everyone is expected to speculate on what caused the yatch to sink. However I think that it is inappropriate for anyone to comment substantively on the reasons for the sinking without the outcome of the investigation.
I will not comment except that it doesn’t make sense to comment if no comment needs to be made. Otherwise I would say let the people express their opinion as it is not the official judgement, it’s only TH-cam.
Any comments from the yacht designers and builders are very reckless at this point. They have little information to go by. Seems an aggressive campaign to put blame on the crew before knowing what happened.
FYI. The retractable keel was in the up position thus the boat to recover from a 90 deg knockdown. With the keel extended, the boat can take a 120 deg knockdown
@@ohsweetmystery that is most little true how ever that do t have all the facts to work with. As any professional engineer will not draw any conclusions to they know if all. And to claim a vessel is unsinkable calls from the CEO calls In to question there motives.
So I am no super yacht captain. I do captain my own private 53 foot sailing vessel . I guarantee you anyone that steps foot on my boat gets a full saftey drill when they board my vessel . Everything from life rafts , EPIRB’s in their sailing vests , the main vessel and the two life rafts. They know where all the fire extinguishers are . What the smoke and CO alarms sound like . Where first aid kits are and emergency flashlights . How to operate the VHF, the Marine radio and Ham. They have to know how to deploy life rafts , operate all the equipment in the rafts and get into their survival suits. Now if I am a rich dude I guarantee I am going to have a abundance of well trained, well rested and well accommodated crew over a few more bloody toys. My bridge would be manned 24/7 by well rested qualified staff. Bit that is probably why I will never be rich.
@@mattk8810 Your right it does not and I was in no way comparing it to this vessel. What I was pointing out was that saftey briefings on super yachts are Abysmal compared to serious sailing vessels not floating luxury hotels . As for surviving what that yacht encountered it was a freak accident and I doubt many vessels of similar size or smaller would without a lot of luck. I have had 50 years at sea and have been fortunate enough to have never faced a water spout. Hopefully with the years I have left I will not ever and I will die of old age at the helm of my boat.
Anyone who lives in the Midwest or South of the US knows that tornados will cleave a relatively narrow and random line as it moves. It is not usual to see one side of a street flattened and 20yds across the street, just fine. JK
@@johnsmith-tn8rn Agree. I live in the Midwest. Almost 30 years ago we had a tornado hit the east side of town and the following night there was another tornado on the west side. It ripped away a large metal building which was part of a lumber yard but there were some boards stacked outside in the parking lot and it didn't touch those, they were still stacked undisturbed about 10 yards from the front door. The building and the rest of the lumber were gone or scattered over a large area.
@@phillipaj.5588This is exactly how I visualised it in my own head. Not jumping on conspiracy theory, it was he or it’s his fault. That was one mighty storm. In a previous video from esysman, he shows a yacht being flipped from stern down bow up in the air! So that’s exactly how I saw it!
My friend's house was leveled in a tornado with her in it. She had a couple of seconds of warning. Everything was gone. She crawled out from under total rubble. It was a miracle that she lived. Someone returned her purse from ten miles away. Her neighbors house didn't lose a roof shingle.
DEFINITELY seen MANY tornadoes in Florida do that. 1998 and 2008 .Two different tornadoes. Both between midnight and 5 am. No possibility to know it was coming. One went right beside my brothers house through his pasture..killed 28 people behind him. ( including my friend Steve and his 8 and 10 year old children ) Spending days searching for the eventual body recovery . Another crossed the end of my sister’s driveway . 19 people before and after her house lost their lives. I don’t take it lightly how close I came to losing my family.
@@gnostic268 my buddy Steve and his 2 young children died in one. I was with search and rescue for 2 days looking for their bodies. Like you mentioned about non disturbance..Steve was he was working on a 1966 Bronco in his lean to. His trailer was gone..but the service manual was still on the page of what he was working on? Bronco and lean to untouched..but absolutely no part of his trailer was left. I can’t imagine how terrifying it must have been for these people?
Etap (Belgian boat builder) used to built unsinkable yachts. But the biggest one was 48 feet. You could fill them with water and still they did not sink. Their hull had a fibreglass foam sandwich construction.
I have an Etap (only the 28i) I understand it could be sawn in half and both halves would float, but I don't know if that's true. I do know it could still catch fire, or other calamities are possible, so I'm not relying wholly on the unsinkableness.
If they hit a rock and break, they do sink. Of course, nothing is "unsinkable". Unsinkable in this context means that it's not the tempest that makes them sink.
There are no boat drills because the owners don't want to imagine a scenario where their very expensive yacht could put them in danger. Same for the renters of a very expensive yachts.
Australia// Thanks for the reports. I stayed up a lot to watch (live cam) this search/recovery operation and have to say that the Divers were amazing to watch and also the harbor teams-very professional and very interesting to see them working.
Thank you for the update,it’s a huge tragedy what happened to that yacht and many excuses are coming to avoid lawsuits ,everything you say makes sense to regular people,surviving skills are important when you are dealing with the ocean !
It wouldn't surprise me if investigators found that it was a combination of watertight doors being insecure and the keel being retracted at the time of the storm.
According to the divers they noted the keel was partially raised while lying on the sea floor but the news article also said the keel could have jerked loose when it hit the sea floor so nothing is confirmed yet.
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I am one of those owners that watches you. Our captain always insists on life jackets for the kids etc. when in position to be exposed to the water. At the start of every cruise the Chief Stew takes the kids on a tour even if they are ours (ours say boring) and makes sure they know to tell an adult if they see certain things, and then what to do if certain things happen like fire or a person goes overboard and there are no adults around. However, and thank you Sys-it waters down when it comes to the adults. We get a briefing on where to be when the submarine is being moved or the tenders are being put in the water, the helicopter is landing etc. but thanks to you the complacency is over. My Captain called me and said he wants to start a new safety program without exemption that we all have to go through when we board and before anyone has drink to get a better idea of what to do if something were to happen. Thank you five stars as always ESys
Good man.
The kids are not the problem. The know it all adults are.
Submarine? Helicopter? How much fun is that!!
I would add the important safety tip. Don't step on a fish hook. 🙄 I saw it happen as a kid while on a kids, shore-based fishing excursion. Kids and fishing lines everywhere and minimal shoes.
Bless you & your Capt. for taking up the lessons on this unbelievable tragedy. I've wondered how scary that would have been for everyone in my mind, to then imagine having it on the sea at night, it had to be absolute terror 😭
Bravo and Thank you for sharing this with us all.. and your kudos to Esysman !! I have had plenty of billionaire and millionaire friends but just Based on what you have said and the fact that you shared it tells me that you are one of those rare individuals that have done well and yet do not allow their arrogance and or self-absorption to interfere with the best choices that you can make to preserve the lives of those that you love and those that are around you... You deserve whatever you have been able to achieve, and you have a lucky family and friends. Stay the person that you are.. under any and all circumstance.
In 2019, I lost five close friends at once when they were trapped by a fire on a dive boat in California. None of the crew were awake when the fire broke out, despite there being a requirement for someone to remain on watch. Three of my friends were RN’s who, like me, had also spent time working as first responders…meaning they knew how to handle themselves in an emergency. There was a hatch my friends could have used to escape the fire when it blocked the stairs, yet the hatch was never opened. I’m fairly certain no one pointed that hatch out to them when they came aboard, otherwise they would have at least tried to open it. I hope regulations are enacted, where emergency drills become mandatory on all passenger boats, so that people trapped down below have at least some chance of survival.
Brutal. Very sorry for your loss of friends.
I remember that tragedy 😢.
I thought of this tragedy today. You are referring to the aft hatch. It was pretty small and practically inaccessible. Knowing about it at least would have given them a chance. Very sorry for your loss, that was just terrible.
@@mbspoobahyes, it was a small aft hatch. We’ll never know if an escape was possible, because no one tried opening it. The crew quickly abandoned ship, leaving every passenger to die down below. I have no idea how they live with themselves.
I suspect right now there are superyacht crews running guests through safety briefings they have never conducted before. Until now.
I'm a Port State Control Examiner for the USCG, and I examine foreign yachts that visit our ports. I tell every crew, ALL PASSENGERS (owner or guest) should be taking part in drills for emergencies. If you don't, then you could ultimately die from ignorance. Money won't save you, but knowing how to effectively escape a sinking vessel can. Also, all vessels are sinkable. It's a shame people say that about some vessels. I think it does the industry a disservice to say something as atrocious as that to mariners. A true mariner knows everything necessary to survive at sea. All others are just spectators willing to roll the dice with their life. Rich or not.
Awesome coverage of the incident. Definitely following your page. Cheers.
Where did I hear that before ? Sounded like “ Even God could’ve not sink the TITANIC”. But it sank. And I gave no idea about even sailing a regular little boat. Thanks!
We lived right on the eastern shore of Lake Ontario. A freak waterspout jumped over our house and dumped thousands upon thousands of gallons of water in our neighbors backyard. I have also seen waterspouts materialize in an instant in the gulf off of S Florida. I think that people who are downplaying the potential impact of “water tornados” have never witnessed the incredible force that these phenomena can carry, and just how small of an area they can cover.
This channel should be called: The Last True Journalist on Earth.
Excellent!
I can sense you are quite emotional having to go over this tragic story. You explain everything perfectly thanks!
@relaxer37 Your comment seems entirely fake and would suggest you are prone to exaggeration and a degree of attention seeking.
At no point during the video was there any sign of him being emotional.
Why do you feel the need to make things up?
I agree w relaxer. Sysman is crisper- encrispado. He is hitting on all the crucial life details. I myself add the "karma"/nature alive one: mistakes are not all forgiven.
the reply from the other person is terrible -- karma, buddy: it will find you like it finds all of us.
Ps biggerissue's acct is 1 yr old: he has definitely some bigger issue.
@@biggerissues6085 When eSysman mentioned the body of Hannah Lynch was recovered, he showed emotion. You just have missed it. Moreover…, if you have nothing good to say, better stay silent. Why do you feel you have to make such a nonsensical comment? Are you perhaps the attention seeker?
He is not so much angry as frustrated. Having served at sea for so many years he will have seen all the bad practices that go on and which he was effectively powerless to correct, (despite the presentations, paperwork and official line that would say otherwise), that no doubt led to this tragedy
@@biggerissues6085 You are wrong. Sys is quite clearly disturbed by this tragedy in each of these videos on this tragedy.
I worked on private yachts for 20 years as chief stew/cook/mate and was one of the few crew who didn't drink. The irresponsibility I witnessed with crew was alarming. When working a job like that and being responsible for someone's floating mansion and peoples safety, we must always be sober minded and vigilant. It happened a few times when I would secure all portholes and doors prior to being underway, a guest would open portholes after being told not to. People need to realize the importance of responsibility and order while at sea.
Yes, the crew have a duty to be careful about safety; and perhaps owners and guests feel an absolute right to do as they please, without considering safety enough. Foolish.
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Exactly what I have seen as well. Add constant "visitors" especially when the boat is moored...
On a big expensive, solid feeling boat, no one ever thinks it could sink. ...
Pretty much the ONLY crews that run drills (so that they’re second nature) are navies, merchant vessels and coast guards…..and NOTHING IS UNSINKABLE
Your continued coverage is the best I've ever seen on any topic. I appreciate your detailed explanations as well your compassion and professionalism. I'd imagine new rules will issued do to this catastrophic event. Mother nature will always win.
Common-sense rules are powerless against the reckless, though.
Agreed. There are so many crazy conspiracy theories out there, it is just horrible!
I'm a person who could not even remotely think about buying a superyacht and I haven't ever been a guest on one in my life but I can tell you that without fail I have watched your YT channel for years. I find your style of videos extremely informative and enjoyable to watch and I like your style of reporting. You seem like an authentic and genuinely kind and caring person and we just don't have enough of that in this world so that's another reason why I continue to watch your videos. If my fortunes ever changed and I was suddenly able to afford a stay on a superyacht for a holiday, asking me to participate in emergency preparedness drills would not upset me or hinder my enthusiasm as a guest one bit. Participating in potentially life saving drills sounds like best practices to me so I would consider this a very reasonable expectation as a guest. I don't think that guests or owners should consider their participation in emergency drills as an inconvenience to endure but rather as a necessary investment of time that could potentially save their lives. Pleasure is one thing, but it should never be at the expense of everyone's safety and that includes the owners, their guests and their valued crew members. Thanks for doing such a marvelous job covering this very tragic story. Im very sorry that so many lives were lost in this event. I pray for all of those people who were lost as well as for those who were lucky enough to survive the ordeal. Stay safe and God bless you.
i am not saying safety drills have no value but there is no safety drill in the world that would have helped these people trapped in their cabins when the boat had capsized. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous at best.
@@WildWest144 very well stated, thank you. And thanks eSys!
Well said! I also have never sailed on a yacht. However, in the 1950’s & 60’s my father was in the US Navy. At the time, families were often transported across the oceans by passenger ship.
At 72, I have vivid memories of being 3 years old and traveling with my mother and baby sister from San Francisco to Honolulu by sea.
A few years later we crossed the Atlantic from the US east coast to live in North Africa. The return trip was aboard an actual 1960’s cruise ship, the USS Independence. Decades later I saw her anchored in Honolulu while I was on a business trip.
I well remember the safety drills every voyage, when all aboard were mustered to the decks.
I am appalled at the seemingly lax standards on private vessels. They might have saved lives on the Bayesian tragedy. Emphasis on “might” because freak storms happen.
One thing that may be worth clarifying - especially for the American audience - is that in Italy the judiciary has a constitutional OBLIGATION to open a criminal procedure against people whenever people die.
The fact there is a criminal investigation on this case is no different and it’s just a consequence of this constitutional obligation.
They are not doing because they think someone has to be charged and put to jail.
They are doing it because its the law: you cannot not open a criminal investigation trying to understand if someone has to be charged if people died.
That is the constitutional starting point , not a discretionary decision (or conclusion) by the judges
So do not read too much into that
Very good point
Thank you for the clarification!
@@spojce9 the capitan is English I think
What are you talking about?
@@rougesify - A joke about the liar and coward Francesco Schettino I suspect.
@@rougesify the Italian cruise liner that ran aground about 15 years ago. Captain was sleeping and on rescue was the 1st off The ship.
Thanks for your in-depth reporting on this issue. You are THE best source for this story. I've gone on the Telegraph, New York Times, other TH-cam channels, etc., and your provide the best coverage. I also like how you call out the conspiracy theories and debunk the rumors. You're an experienced source.
I'm not a yacht owner, but I'm still a fan of this channel. Quite shocking to hear that emergency drills for the owners and guests are not standard procedure!
a well run boat will have a very basic cover of like "this is what the emergency sounds are, this is where your life jacket is, this is where we want you to go in an emergency, but thats about it
@@Simon-ho6ly I've been on a few charters and most of the time, there wasn't any safety drills. Also on some of the yachts it wasn't very obvious where things like lifejackets were inside cabins. I think that is a very short sighted decision that may be because interior design trumps safety. If I were ever fortunate enough to become an owner, I would make this a required part of the boat tour. This is the sun deck, here are the life rafts, these are the escape routes. It need not take much and every guest should be familiar with this type of briefing from flying.
High value people don't like being told what to do by the proles, regardless of how skilled and knowledgeable they are.
This was a big problem for those on the Costa Concordia too. Amazing how it takes diasters and loss of life, before policies are implemented across the board.
@@crabby7668 This is quite the opposite of my experience, "high Value" people always listened to safety information. But I am more military oriented.
Calling your vessel unsinkable as it lays on the bottom having bodies recovered from it is a pretty tough claim to back up...
It seems to me that you are all misrepresenting the words of the CEO of the Italian Sea Group. He said that the sailing ship was unsinkable if the crew had followed normal safe navigation procedures. Since this was not done and hatches were left open and the drift lifted with a strong storm coming in then the ship sank only because of inexperience or malice, not because of any defects in the ship.
@@sgviti you're jumping to the same conclusions as the CEO all based on supposition, when, as of yet we don't know
@@sgviti the words "unsinkable" shouldn't be used with any vessel. I don't care what rules are followed or how good the crew is, if mother nature wants to claim something, she damn well will.
Just like idiots that go on boats they don’t retain info or comprehend it they just pick what they hear and roll with that
@@sgviti Yes, he and you are quite correct. Raising the boat will prove it.
Thanks for the update and very good points. As a professional captain and owner of three yachts for many years I have been mentioning most of what you say already for days. People talking about this accident should be aware that this is not a perfect world and we should learn form this but blaming one or another is easy but not fair. In this case where a nearby ship survived it is clear that something immense hit them and disaster could have hardly be avoided. And sure, the lifting keel maybe up has not helped in any way. But also there. Most yachts sail under engine with the keel up and not drop it while on anchor. I would have and in most instances I did for 70% of the time. Yes, probably aft hatch open, maybe watertight doors. And for sure, owner and guests not briefed properly. It all leads to this and making owners aware that these drills are vital is important. I brief guests (almost weekly) always since they are guests on our ships. Therefor it is easy, they have to listen. But having worked on a super yacht I know that with the owner on board it is quite different.
I'm of the opinion that boat drills would have made no difference...
Imagine your the passenger in your large stateroom. You've had your one drill, your dosing off, and the huge yacht your enjoying is suddenly,and violently knocked down...
Everything is thrown to the Lee side...including you. In a large stateroom,you could be thrown 10 meters.
Your injured, heavy things are falling on you,the power is gone, it's pitch black, the waters rushing in, the screaming has started,an alarm may be howling, your half conscious and confused...
Could YOU make it out? You could practice for years, and everything still has to go perfectly, and your reactions be instinctive for you to survive...an occasional guest dosnt have anywhere near the training and experience...those deeper below decks had no chance.
And any crew who by then were already been on deck trying to secure things were likely thrown into the water
That's why you don't sleep on a boat!.
Good point: and probably very close to what happened there
Once again: a competent officer on watch looking at the radar could have avoided all of this....
One look at that top heavy MAST with all its weighty stuff attached even without the sail pulled up would give me pause. Then to discover this super yacht does not even possess a proper KEEL, I would be hesitant to go to sea in the Bayesian, much less sleep at anchor with the keel retracted and the hotel sized windows right at the waterline fully opened, IN A MISTRAL?
Sleep on deck or spend the night in a hotel, trust your survival instincts.
We're going to find out wether or not,that the crew was already on deck, tending to things in deteriorating weather...then they suddenly got slammed.
I'm thinking this is more a microburst scenario...very unfortunate.
As a boat owner myself you always need to be up to speed with the weather but things change so quickly on the water, when it comes to personal safety you cannot prepare enough, my few basic rules are that I keep knives at strategic points on the boat, everyone must have pfds on, coils of rope at strategic points, and I always tow a decent sized inflatable boat, when things go wrong on the water they go wrong quick.
I was a day charter skipper on a dinky type of sweet yacht ( westsail 32) working on the West Coast in South Africa many years ago.
One day when I was berthing a guest put his hand out and it was crushed between a wooden post and the chain plate.
I remember how quickly a perfect day turned into a nightmare.
My boss had the man rushed to hospital and operated on.
-: I feel tremendous compassion for the Captain and crew at this dreadful time!
Thanks for this wonderful video.
I've had a think I know what happened, and you are hearing it here first!!!
They dropped the keel for stability in a panic.....and it just kept going to the bottom.... the yacht capsized immediately.
I bet they find the keel separate from the hull!!
They saw the weather, first instinct was to stabilize, they dropped the keel, it keep going.
The chocking mechanism when fully deployed failed.
VERY HEAVY KEEL, Deployed too fast?
@@paulvr3158i dont think is a manual operation dropping the keel, so i guess the speed is fixed. Anyway the keel was found intact and retracted
Yes they do!
There was a warning issued with plenty of time to prepare apparently, enough time to get the guests off the boat onto dry land until the storm blew over.
The lack of boat drills for owners and passengers is staggering.
Why is there a warning from eSysman Superyachts to all viewers of this cast. Are we ultra sensitive about this tragedy when no one appears to have mentioned you negatively. Whatever happened to free speech?
Narcissists think they're special, and that they're too special for anything to happen to them (as if the world would stop turning if it did). They are delusionally grandiose...and believe rules and laws apply to other but not to them. This is part of the diagnostic criteria for doing a differential diagnosis.
The more of a braggart and boaster someone is, the more narcissistic they are. They are the men, women, and teens, who need to display their wealth because they think others will "admire" them, and they are driven by obtaining public admiration from others.
This is a very real, and very prevalent disorder in the broader population. It's very common in work-a-holics and certain billionaires, mega-millionaires, and the people at your local country club. Yes, seriously.
Narcissists destroy the fabric of society with their disregard for the safety of others, much in the same way sociopaths and psychopaths do the same, but for different (but similar) reasons. They all believe they are above the law, and the rules of society.
To be fair, there's probably no drill for navigating a dark passageway that's been rotated 90 degrees and the wall is now the "floor", the hatch will now be sideways and you have to crouch and climb through it, and do all that while taking on water AND after having been knocked out of bed or off the couch.
I spent 3 years working offshore and another 20 in the mining industry. You cannot anticipate every situation and train for it, that is not the only purpose of doing the drills. For me, the drills equip you to be robotic and safe in mist of danger. Unfortunately I have worked on sites where people have died, and you do not want to be dealing with equipment and procedures for the first time when you are dealing with such an event.
Yeah, that isn't a thing with wealthy owners or VIP guests unless they specifically want it. It an't a cattle car cruise line.
as a guest, I think the idea of boat drills, whether on charter or a friend of owner, are really a best practices idea!
Sir. I’m not a boaty and actually I can’t remember why I subscribed… I love this channel and this is possibly your most important video EVER. You were a tad nervous at the start but when you got into the ‘crew quarters and sleep deprivation… safety orientation and changes in situation’ your seamanship expertise shone thru….you’ve clearly done this xxxx.For owners that watch this content …this is a game changer….no longer can you say “children must wear buoyancy aids’ …… our sons and daughters are serving the strawberry’s and tea in the glorious sunset evening’s, they have the right to live and survive ….. you are responsible for all souls when conditions change. Please keep up this content… do not stop digging… we all should sleep in our bunks SAFELY
Hi, Many years ago, my parents paid for a trip on the Sail Training Ship, Sir Winston Churchill. At that time vital was part of the Outward Bound organisation which encouraged young people to experience things outside their comfort zones. I was very fortunate.
The memories of the first two days at sea, leaving Birkenhead & travelling down the St George's channel and the Irish Sea in a force 9 gale were an experience, where I learnt how insignificant we are, when it comes to the power of nature. It is so sad that we have lost an entrepreneur to an avoidable setbof circumstances. I am a Rotarian who is responsible for Health & Safety in my District in England. The investigation is essential but your comments that owners & guests must take part in safety drills is spot on.
Thanks for a great channel and take care. Andy
I don't think a downburst classifies as avoidable circumstance.
You might clarify that charter guests - those hiring superyachts for a week or two to cruise a particular area - do genrally get a pre-cruise safety brief. Private yachts or charter yachts when the UBO is using the boat, are a different story. The owner and close family being familiar with their surroundings onboard may well not feel they need such a safety brief nor would wish any guests they have brought with them inconvenienced by one. When an owner is reluctant to do anything, even something as patently important as this, a Captain may well have to tread carefully when insisting. It should also be born in mind that the regulations for private yachts carying less than 12 guests are minimal compared with the same yacht if carrying more than 12 guests or if registered as a commercial yacht.
@ecnaruaL.." When an owner is reluctant to do anything, even something as patently important as this, a Captain may well have to tread carefully when insisting." I suspect this event might change some minds
@@ecnaruaL hence the captain designation.
Note it in the log "Owner refuses safety drill"
Wow. I would think any Captain should insist in no uncertain terms that everyone MUST be given the drill. I dont give a damn what Mr Richie Rich thinks. Sure, he owns the boat but as Captain it needs to be perfectly clear the he is responsible for the safe operation and safety of all on board.
The Captain is in charge of the vessel. THAT’S why he is CAPTAIN!
@@pagit69 That would be a good way of not having your employment contract renewed.
Like A LOT. Former writer of SOLAS documentation here. I know there are many guarding against early speculation regarding this accident. However, there is a plain to see picture forming based on information from dozens of sources across the sector. In fact, it is similar to the situation seen with private helicopters. Basically, your money cannot buy your way out of physics.
It's a similar story to the helicopter crash with Kobe Bryant where the captain flew in fog, not having instrument navigation, only visual, despite fog warnings. I think captains will veer away from safety protocol when they have clients with a lot of money.
Well said. One look at that enormous mast and I thought "I wouldn't want to go to sea in that".
@@masspence1 That's like saying I don't care about you even if you are paying me.
@@stephenburnage7687 The boat was well designed.
It looked astonishingly wide. It must have massive windage.
Thank you for speaking the truth about rich reality. As a CPA and senior auditor to Billionaires, seldom do they want or care for realtity, truth and bluntness. Workers are rewarded for " respect and difference" A person earning a billion is different from the person spending a billion. Arrogance is the deadly sin.
Yes, power can be a dangerous delusion
Do you mean deference? Not difference?
@@salishseas In a world with speech-to-text, forgive such mistakes.
One would expect a qualified CPS to know the difference.
@@supertuscans9512 CPS \ CPA?
clothes butt knot quiet rite.
Amazed to hear that owners and guests do not do boat drills. On my vessel, every guest on board gets a briefing or they don't leave the pen.
I was a guest on a dive yacht off Cairns many years ago . Give them their due, we were hardly off the dock before a full safety briefing was carried out. Perhaps the SOPs for day charters are different from when the owner is on board for an extended trip. When surveying a boat safety is always top priority but many ignore basic safety including, in some cases, even the body issuing quality or compliance qualifications, or they try to passs some of that responsibility over to others. Not room here to quote specifics but bottom line is "Dead is Dead" safety should never be passed over. Water is not our natural environment and can be dangerous. For example in the USA alone an average of 10 people a year die from just falling into a marina.
I think this is one of your best videos ever...!!
You hit on all the key points of the uncertainty of rushing to blame until both the vessel and crew are investigated in detail.
Your SAFETY summary, especially when it comes to guests and owners participating in drills is timely and this event shows a weakness we have all had as captains in not doing an actual muster station drill with guests rather than the introductory talk we mostly do.
Well done!
unless the safety drill is going to include a free climbing course, an underwater swimming course all done blindfold there isn’t a safety course in the world that would have helped these people. I’d it us ouch dark, The ship is on its side and the cabin door is 20’ above your head - how are you supposed to reach it never mind open it and find your way out?
@supertuscans9512 Given that some of the guests and most of the crew did escape I don't think it stayed as bad as you describe. I can easily imagine the initial knock-down then righting to a leeward list as immense downflooding from the open Aft sliding doors caused bodily sinkage as she slowly went down by the stern in 12-15 minutes .
There was time if they could visualize the escape route in the dark
But my point is that an improvement on guest training to find their escape options is not a bad thing in the industry
Maybe it should even be made mandatory
@@supertuscans9512 You're right IF the yacht rolled on the surface. Something weird happened in the hour between dragging anchor and sinking but hey-ho what do I know except AIS appears to show Bayesian was stern to the wind for that hour..
"Unsinkable" a bold statement, a little like saying an un-spinable aircraft in aviation. Not being involved with Super Yachts I am surprised there no requirement for a qualified person on the bridge at all times, and no safety Drills for Guests.
My career dictated I had to attend a Helicopter Under Water Escape Drills Regularly, I can confirm it is really disorientating when you go upside down under water, then have to escape from the cabin, and thats in a swimming pool environment, and knowing ahead of time it is going to happen.
I think you are right about those watertight doors. A lot of this is hubris imo and I think the investigation will likely find that. A criminal investigation has been opened. The vessel data that has already been accessed seems to show the vessel shaking violently (a waterspout?) at 3.50 am and the anchor breaking. It then showed the vessel moving approx 350 meters before sinking just 16 mins later. So what the crew did in that 16 mins is as critical as what the overnight mooring protocol was on board. Your point about boats drills is correct. The first thing I check when travelling on any ship is where the life rafts decks are, where the life jackets are and that the walkways and doorways to those things are not locked. I have to say that on many occasions, I have found exits to life raft decks locked and in one case chained on commercial ferries. I now travel with my own inflatable life jacket, because I just do not trust the ability or experience of staff to get people off quickly. Ex Navy here, so evacuation drills and shipping hazards are muscle memory
In safety analysis, we call it complacency.
In 16 mins, there would be time to alert the owner/guests and have them assemble in the lounge in lifejackets - if that was the fire drill plan. Instead, we have the lady with the baby saying she was already on deck and the next thing she knew, she was in the water. Since the cook was found in the water and outside the vessel, it suggests he had come out from the quarters along with all the staff. Perhaps he was the last one out and/or got hurt when everyone was thrown overboard. Meaning that all the staff got out in time - why not the others.
@@Mady-lo6qb Yeah, it sounds as though the vessel was already listing and then rolled and sank very quickly. The crew (who mostly slept in the bow compartments), were able to get up on deck quickly through the forward hatch. The engineer slept in a stern compartment behind the engine room and survived, probably through the aft hatch. The guests who died slept in the guest cabins that were in the middle lower deck of the hull. I had a look at the plans and the hull had five compartments with watertight bulkheads in between. Two compartments could flood without it sinking, but that required the watertight doors in those bulkheads to be closed. The bodies were found at opposite ends of the hull. The deck lounge had glass watertight sliding doors.
So lots of questions there. Were the watertight doors open (and that includes hatches)? Did the failure to have the keel down take away the ability of the vessel to right itself if blown over with that high mast? The guests that survived seemed to have been on the upper deck, sleeping in the lounge areas. What was the level of preparedness of the crew for monitoring weather patterns and storm protocol? What was the protocol for evacuation in a worst case scenario, and how often was that practised?
Engline power is essential in storms to maintian control. The boat that rescued those who made it to a life raft has said how he saw the weather turning and got the engines on and prepped his vessel for it. If he had time to do that, so did the captain of the Bayesian.
These discussions have been insightful and quite moving. Your concern and empathy are obvious and commendable.
If you've ever worked on boats like this, when engines or generators are running (at least one generator running to supply power to HVAC system), the noise in the engine room is pretty damned loud, even with the generators enclosed in their sound protection covers. It becomes automatic to close those bulkhead doors every time you exit the engine room to keep the sound and heat isolated. Of course, there's a chance a door was open during crew prep for approaching storm at the worst possible moment. Also, it's VERY common for "deck hands" to perform anchor watch duties, so there were at least 4 possibilities including the 1st mate, in addition to Captain and Engineer, but you'll rarely see either on an anchor watch.
In the US there are areas that are very prone to tornados. You can have one house left standing with the one next to it destroyed.
_Exactly. Even one home leveled, the neighbors unaffected wherein an empty styrofoam cup on their front porch was unmoved._
The 40ft sailing mono that I raced on was only meters away from the Catamaran that flipped in New Zealand and was not touched at all. It ripped a very defined path through the marina. I can definitely see how this has happened!! I photographed this from the top of the mast the day after the event. It was quite unbelievable!!
A very, very pertinent comment.. Thank you! 👍
It may have been an act from God. I’ve seen a waterspout roar past a small marina and the damage was severe. It happened in five seconds.
Appreciate your comment. Rosella was the catamarans name when it was here in Mooloolabah. Just wondering if she was in the water or on the hard when the tornado hit?
@@elizabethmcleod246 oh please
Those of us living in tornado-land know that one house can be "disappeared" and the neighbor's house lightly scathed.
As an owner operator of both sail and motor yachts over many years (albeit much smaller craft) I have never left port with new guests before giving some sort of safety briefing. I find it incredible this is not mandatory on charter class yachts of this size.
well, it's not a charter, it's a private, and the owner can and will do anything he wants.
@@alanoconnor007 just going out with my brother for a day trip he did a safety talk.
@@mbspoobahI'm aware of that but it was charter class ergo my comment.
The most sensible commentary seen so far about this situation. Extremely sad what happened there.
I did military water survival and night ditching.
It takes several days to work up to the final exercise.
They blindfold you turn the vessel upside down and selectively block exits that you only find they are blocked when you try to open them. You must then find the breed exit in the dark.
In the dark under water you do not know which way is up.
No air equals panic very quickly.
Once you panic you are done.
Yes drills are important. Given how quickly this vessel sunk I doubt they had much of a chance. Escaping the interior.
How did ALL THE CREW MAKE IT OFF?? Into one lifeboat… only the chief was lost??
@@tarverr.mcknightjr4439 The crew would have been topside getting ready for the day and addressing the weather - anchor dragging, turbulence etc. A sudden knockdown and they would have been thrown into the water. Same for the guests who were on deck. The life raft automatically detaches and inflates. (There were 4 apparently and they managed to snag one of them)
@@tarverr.mcknightjr4439chef. As in cook.
@@tarverr.mcknightjr4439 I have no idea.
I assume that they had a clear route out through the front hatch. Just a guess until the report comes out.
I think the video indicated the engineers cabin was in the back of the boat.
Thanks for sharing. With all the beds, bedding, any furniture, clothing, etc. plus water and in the dark, I'd be surprised if any survivors were on the side of the boat that went down first. Looks like starboard side, but haven't heard that said. It would have been hard for those on high side.
Very good advice. I served in royal navy, we did not just have one engineer we had 3, plus captain, 1st leftenant, navigation officers. The ship would not sail if manpower was not up to snuff.
Everyday firfighting drill, man overboard drills were practiced, along with first aid, and lifeboat drills, during daylight and night hours.
have a sailing yacht 47.5 Meters very similar to the Bayesian, ours is S/Y MITseaAH. We have a similar tall mast and boom, a Marina deck at the stern, a keel that moves down when sailing and up for power operation. This event has made me revisit all operations aboard our vessel. My heart sank when I heard about this incident and especially the loss of life.
Beautiful boat! And I love how nautical, warm & cozy it feels despite its size! (as opposed to the look & feel of a slick condominium like the boat under discussion here)
why do you have a 47.5m sailing yacht?
are you a billionaire?
Yet: anything can happen. Those "water spouts" sometimes seem to have a mind of their own, like hurricanes and their accompanying twisters of all sizes.
Very mysterious.
@@timschmitt7550 No he's a Trillionaire.
When you are at anchor outside a harbour do you put the keel down for safety?
Something I had never thought about. I simply assumed that this would be standard practice on any large vessel. Thank you for bringing this to my attention and a more sensible and intelligent presentation of the events.
On our private 70' yacht, we show all our guests, soon after boarding, the location of all life jackets, emergency raft, medical kit, fire equipment and we briefly discuss general emergency procedures like MOB (man overboard). In any emergency, all people are instructed to come up on deck. It only takes 5 minutes and what I find most interesting is, the guests really appreciate it. In fact, additional questions and discussions about boat safety and what to do in various emergency situations take place long after the initial emergency instructions.
Worked as a yacht skipper for several years and a deck hand before that and never known a boat owner or guests ever participating in any emergency drills!
Please be more assertive. it's your job even now.
@@tedoptional-p8l I am no longer in that industry.
Maybe they'll feel more motivated now....
@@mirandahotspring4019 cause its somehow not deemed important just like esysman shows its not to important otherwise the message would not have been all the way at the end of the vid but more in the start just to get the point across.not everybody watches till the end and it is a very important message in my eyes especially considering the lack off the training of the owners .
Voilà. Probably there is some mathematical anthropological IQ money formula for these situations.
I had a small Everglades boat: unsafe pax never again allowed. The Everglades can be as deadly as The Mediterranean
I am so sorry for the families I pray you can find peace
Great to have an experienced hand like yourself to sort the wheat from the chaff.
It seems some people think they can be saved by wearing a tin foil hat.
It will never happen to me attitude it seems.
Sysman shows us honesty.🎉
If you are inside one of these super yachts in a freak storm and it suddenly is flipped onto it's side, you only have seconds to save yourself. As the water rushes in, the incoming torrent will sweep you off your feet and push you deeper inside along with everything else not bolted down. Those near an exit or outside on the deck have a better chance of survival.
Good point , the in gushing water would be very hard to get out.
The combination of the height of the mast with a keel centerboard is so ungainly that the vessel is entirely dependent on human decision. It can't take care of itself like a well balanced boat. Scary
I thought boats that big had a fixed keel. I am just learning that many have retractable keel.
Don’t buy a vessel when the chief architect says it’s unsinkable.
And puts an unreasonably large mast on it just for bragging rights of the owner.
@@robmcd didn't they say the titanic was unsinkable?
@@alc5792 The Titanic was claimed by its builders to be 'practically unsinkable'. It was a bold claim, but slightly less bold than the 'unsinkable' claims that movies have added to the story.
any boat that displaces water with air is sinkable. Solid and lighter than water is not sinkable, like a surfboard. Last I recall, we require air to live.
@@robmcd seems like a bad slogan considering theirs gravity and deep water on Earth.
I was a semi-pro/ professional private sailing yacht/racing sailboat crew and captain for a good number of years and sailed +100,000nm (w/100's of guests, crew) on primarily small (~25 M) vessels. In my experience, besides one non race-boat owner the only time vessels did emergency drills when the owner was onboard was when they participated in some ocean racing events because it was required. None of the bigger yachts I crewed on (mostly temporary positions) did drills when guests/owners were onboard.
Yeah, not a normal occurrence. And the crew is not guilty of gross negligence here
@@deankruse2891 I imagine it is being asked of the command staff how much thought they put into the storm warnings that morning as more successfully perhaps exemplified by the older sailing yacht anchored ahead of them.
@@TB-zf7we i am not aware of what the older sailing yacht did differently, but not closing a hatch or window would be catastrophic in that storm. If the boat is intact on the sea floor, then it wasn't really a design flaw with teh yacht, any vessel would have been knocked down by those winds given the boats orientation and manner of mooring.
@@deankruse2891Agreed
I was also a semi- professional skipper with paying guests on boats only up to 16m. But we always made an intense safety - instruction before leaving the harbour first time. Lasting for ca. 3 hours .
I found your channel after this terrible accident and I greatly appreciate you sharing your experience.
Your conclusion at the end of the video summed up my thoughts. As an airline pilot for over thirty years I wondered about the drills required for passengers. I hope owners will rethink the lackadaisical opinion of emergency preparedness going forward. Also, even if the boat was prepared for heavy weather, when the boat heeled over to near 90 degrees, the pax, having not been properly briefed may have opened otherwise watertight doors. The sea, as the air, is a very unforgiving medium.
I know nothing about superyacht. The way you explain it, it's very easy to understand.
That is shocking to me that it’s not typical for yacht owners and their guests to participate in an evacuation drill. Seems like something that should be required by law, like wearing a seatbelt in a car.
These are the most arrogant people on the planet, they thought they were indestructible.
@@byteme9718 There is a huge element of luck in life. I imagine that many of these people start to believe in their own luck.
The law applies only to poor peoples.
@@byteme9718 Yup, he had just lawyered his way out a criminal conviction.
It is required by law. They just can't be arsed and the Captain would fear for his job if he was to demand the law was followed. This is the marine world - would never happen in the aviation industry.
As always very well stated very well said I started out at 18 in air sea rescue worked in the shipbuilding business building Navy ships for 30 years. I have never give up sailing. I am 82 and still own and sale a 40 foot sailboat. I always enjoy your ventures on TH-cam.
Really good to hear you're still in good health and sailing at 82 years young. A friend of mine said at 45 he started flying a plane and at 50 riding a motorcycle. He stopped flying at 80 when he said he had to think about things that should come automatically. He was still riding at 85 when he retired from the YMCA I taught in. Said it kept him young. May your sailing do the same for you for many more years.
How much do you want for your boat? (sorry, I'm feeling cheeky, and I couldn't resist - since you said you "sale" your boat). Great size of boat by the way - big enough to have some room, but still small enough to handle with two people (or one if you're particularly organised and spritely). At that size everything is still small enough to have a bit of directness to the controls (going up to boat sizes where electric winches are needed means sailing just doesn't feel like sailing anymore in my opinion).
As a dinghy sailing maniac, my ideal size yacht is around 28 - 32 feet (so long as I don't have to live on it!). Boats that size can still feel like big dinghies - especially if they have a tiller and the mainsail winch has been ditched and replaced with something like a 4:1 and 12:1 block combo (don't quote me on the exact ratios - just that the setup has a mainsheet within a mainsheet - one for big movements of the boom under light loads and another for nipping up that last bit of tension when things are on tight and everything is leaning over. No clunky winch on the main lets you sit on the side of the cockpit with tiller in one hand and mainsheet in the other playing the boom in and out in the gusts. Nearly bought a boat like that (a young rocket 780) a number of years ago (but, sadly it was not to be).
The keel is central to understanding this issue. Sailing boats and yachts are designed to remain upright, even with sails raised in strong winds. In my experience, I've only seen a sailboat capsize and stay on its side when the keel has come loose. Normally, if a boat is knocked over, it should right itself before enough water enters to compromise its stability. This raises questions about such occurrences.
Fascinating video and good to hear some truths and facts about the boat and crew. I'm a qualified commercial yacht skipper though never worked on anything as big as this. As you say crew is ten, but just 3 qualified watch keepers, and they need their time off as much as anyone.
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To some commenters about open hatches: Visit such a yacht and go through. You will be in large areas were no natural airflow can occur. Living in there is only possible by aircon since it not only cools the cabins but also air them. This and other aircon is always on and the doors are usually closed.
Especially in a storm with high wind and rain. It's been mentioned though that the crew could have come up harch from berthing area through the hatch and left it open. Very possible they came up to respond to anchor dragging before water spout.
Small tornadoes can do incredible things. I remember in my house garden we had a small tornado that snapped some tree and threw meters away an heavy old iron stove, while leaving untouched an half empty plastic bottle of water.
I remember in my youth I was driving a big John Deere tractor in west Texas, saw and ran into a Dust Devil which is just a small cousin of a spout or tornado, well that got my attention. If these guys indeed got hit by a spout, all bets are off and there is nothing in the manual.
THANKS ESYSMAN For the update and a great suggestion for the owners👍💚💚💚
Sy Bayesian, formally Salute, has a GRT of 473, and was built to the UK large commercial yacht code for vessel under 500 GRT. The code is less stringent for vessels under 500 GRT. A similar length motor yacht, would be well over 500 GRT. Assuming she takes charters, she must be manned and operated in compliance to the same code. For vessels under 500 GRT the code states “watertight doors in yachts under 500GT may be approved hinged doors provided that there is an audible and visual alarm on the Bridge indicating when the door is open. The doors are to be kept closed at sea and marked accordingly”
Looking at the GA of this vessel, I see two hinged water tight doors in the lower deck accommodations, and one between the engine room and lazarette. While at anchor, and with guest aboard, these doors would be kept open, this is normal practice, and compliant with the large yacht code. These doors are secondary to a typical lighter bulkhead door, used as the primary door to separate the compartments.
Hinged water tight doors are cumbersome and heavy, and can easily cause serious injury while trying to operate while at sea. Typically on a vessel like this, these doors are deployed when expecting very rough weather, or on a passage where access to the compartment beyond is not routine.
It’s very likely the vessel took up to a 90 deg knockdown. Had she been underway at sea, and prepared for rough weather, she would have survived the event. She was simply not prepared for such a knockdown, and the resulting downflooding to whole lower deck through the one or two main deck hatches that would have been open. I doubt very much the side shell door was open.
I am a hobby captain chartering vessels. Mostly with my family. And i need to say you deliver these informations in a way that really goes deep. No finger pointing, no blame. Maybe this is one of the good things after such a tragedy: That people who want to learn, can learn from these incidents.
I think of all your very valid points, the one that demonstrates the probable cause of this accident was the film from New Zealand graphically showing the 45 metre yacht getting flattened in seconds is the most pertinent. The fact that all those on deck were ejected into the water as the yacht got flattened violently, suggests it was exactly this. All the talk of doors or hatches being open is secondary, none of the crew could ever have imagined the yacht getting knocked down, whilst at anchor with the sails stowed. Given the obvious force of nature required to do that, makes a total nonsense of trying to blame someone!
The designer might be to blame. Filling up quickly and being unable to right itself are bad properties of a sailing boat.
Your comment makes great sense. I was reading that sailboats should be able to right themselves with 110 to 120 degrees or more of angle. Yet this yacht even with keel down would not right itself after 88 degrees per the financial times article.
@@martinsaunders2942 Were the sails furled and stowed?
@@CC-xn5xi - Yes
"None of the crew could ever have imagined ..." When at sea, you always plan for the unexpected. Doors, portholes, hatches, windows, should always be closed, shut and dogged down. Especially at night when there may only be two watchkeepers awake. Furthermore, a watch keeper should always be on the bridge to monitor fire alarms, radio traffic, dragging anchors and weather conditions. An intense squall as described would be visible approaching by S-band and X-band radar in which case the Captain should be alerted and appropriate actions taken.
Appreciate that you addressed my observation of the deep anchorage what a great channel !
I suspect that the Captain dare I say it thought he was aboard probably the safest Vessel in the Anchorage ?
Complacency creeps in and the next thing you know the Sea will expose your fallacies ?
I've been on my Vessel on the North Sea/East coast for 20 years now and the truth is there's nothing Glamorous about it at all in fact I've been under the mercy of the Sea many times through fatigue and tiredness and if she wanted to take me I'm sure it could've happened but that's the risk all real Sea lovers take ?
In this instance these poor people who lost there lives probably thought they were sleeping in a boutique hotel on land and unfortunately that's the problem here as you never can totally relax
especially on Anchorage at night mainly because of Drag ?
I mean I've always got an emergency Grab bag to take in the event of a rapidly moving situation aboard especially at night on anchorage ?
It's very sad for all involved and I bet the Crew are so traumatised aswell
All my experience is with oil tankers, working shoreside as a naval architect and marine engineer. I started working when there were still radio operators onboard. Starting in the early 1980s there was a constant push to reduce crew size. I do not believe there are sufficient numbers of crew onboard commercial vessels. I do not believe there are adequate numbers to sustain a response to say, a fire or other emergency.
With regards to drills and donning life jackets, every time I sailed with a ship I was required to attend emergency drills and participate in the drill. I remember one drill where the subject was immersion, or gumby, suits. At that safety drill, the Master required that I be the one to demonstrate putting on and wearing the gummy suit. I put it on at the start of the drill and I wore it through the drill. I know how to put on an immersion suit. I learned something new at each drill.
I don't care if you are an owner, a passenger, a guest, or someone from the office you should participate in safety drills. You should know where your muster station is, you should know how to put on lifesaving equipment, and what the emergency signals are. You should also know how to reach the emergency exits.
Wealth does not protect you from accidents, it didn't on the Titanic, it didn't on the Titan, and it didn't in this case.
Could not have stated it better myself as a former US Merchant Mariner.
In the first week that I started a new job, there was a pretty bad earthquake. It was the first time I heard the train sound. And the first thing in my head was - crap, I don't know where the emergency exits are. 😬😬😆😆
"Necessary quarters, for the right amount of crew, for the safety of the vessel are accounted for and not instead of those things": totally agree!! Beyond tight quarters for crew where private living space is the width of a single bed is dehumanizing.
I sail my own 51 ft sailing yacht and have had problems with superyachts at anchor many times over the last 20 years. They never responded to a vhf call at night when they start to drag down on to me and once this occured in day light when they knew they were too close and promised to keep an anchor watch, which they didn't. Unfortunately, I have grown to distruss superyacht crews and always keep a wide berth and rather than argue with them. I prefer to move anchorges when they anchor too close.
Having been on several commercial cruises, I am shocked that owners would not WANT to do full guest drills. Your life could be at stake!
Owning a boat doesn't grant one the power to disembark the Grim Reaper, who travels incognito wherever there's life. Invulnerability is only a feeling--and a deceiving one at that.
ESysman is right. In the 15 years I worked on yachts, it has never happened.
guests don't want them either, at least these luxury yacht users. they just wanna rent for a weekend or week for a party or vacation and they just wanna enjoy, safety drills unfortunately isn't what they are looking for, they want experience and are ready for to pay for it. many seem to think expensive or luxury yacht can't sink so what the point, just based on social media comments about this case. unfortunately... seems crew/captain also was little too confident about the yacht bc the bad weather wasn't surprise, they would have had time to close doors or prepare life raft but thought storm will pass...
Hey. Does anyone know the name of the black sailing yacht at 14:30?
I've been on many cruises and the attitude of 99% of the passengers is the safety drills showing everyone their 'muster station' etc was just a nuisance and half the passengers were already drunk when attending these safety drills.
I did hurricane and tornado disaster work in Florida. A hurricane will blow a computer into the next town. A tornado will pull EVERY key off a computer keyboard. Huge difference.
There is no such phenomenon in the Mediterranean sea....
@@Carolinapetroska Si hay tornados en el Mediterráneo, se llaman "trombas marinas".
Thanks for an informed and fair assessment of what is known so far.
My grandparents used to run boats for rich people up and down the east coast of the US. What you said about older boats really reminded me of them, and they still expressed a general sort of "always under pressure while owner and guests were on board". They met on a larger crewed ship, but they spoke most often about running smaller crews, (my grandfather had is captain's license, and my step-grandmother got hers to be able to second for him) perhaps a second strewardess or chief when guests were on board, but primarily just the two of them.
I've been aboard a few of them (only 2 that I actually remember) prior to them retiring, when they used to pass by where we were living. That said, the ones I remember weren't super yachts, more like very small houses than mansions (still boats, so still hella expensive), so there was only ever one or two possible exits. My grandfather and my father both grew up on the water, so safety was always sort of a balance of unalarming and real concern. No running on the docks, kids wear life jackets while outside and underway, type thing. To my knowledge, there weren't any other exits to be had, and I can't imagine getting lost, even as a small child, but it was also a "keep walking down the single hall and you'll hit steps and the deck" type deal. Larger yachts seem terrifying, and I'm someone who's not afraid of the sea (beyond the same sort of reasonable caution you'd reserve for a busy highway).
The world of super yachts is an entirely different beast! (That said, my grandfather has informed me he's following this story closely. These are the sorts of ships he and my grandmother would have docked near, and they still have friends in the industry.)
It's crazy to me that most owners do not participate in a boat drill. That would be the first thing I would want to do. Even when I got my first kayak, I made sure I could self rescue by jumping out of it at sea and practicing getting back in. This should be standard practice for anyone on the water. Thanks very much for your videos on this riviting story. I look forward to them from you.
We have never done drills with our boss or his family or friends onboard. Our captain has always given bosses guests a tour of the boat which includes where the life saving equipment is. Unfortunately this is not always the way things are done on other boats
A tour is not a boat, fire or MOB drill. This should be corrected and all drills recorded in the log book with a list of participants.
If you think about drill on cruiseships, I don't recall anything above get your lifejucket and assemble at muster point when alarm sounds. If there would be no alarm and I had to make my decisions, I could well be lost, or too late.
Thankyou for your great advice. I realize these yacht owners are used to ordering people to do this or that but in this situation their lives are at stake as we now know.
I watch your channel from time to time. This is by far the most important video I’ve seen, especially regarding owner & client safety. My father was a private pilot. On every trip he did, he briefed his passengers, eg emergency brace position, oxygen masks, emergency operation of the doors, etc. This included his family. He never took safety for granted and neither did we, and it was never an inconvenience to be briefed. And different planes have slightly different procedures and everyone no matter how often they have flown (or sailed) should ever take their briefing for granted. I also did a lot of sailing as a child and we were always briefed on safety gear, etc.
This is the problem
Not enough crew not enough sleep
With 1 foot 🦶 you always in jail as a captain
This why I quit large yachts and charter long time ago
You’re a very wise man and I hope so owners take your advice. This is not something most of a us really want to hear about. thank you for all this information.
hi great comments about Boat Drills , yes we did at times have problems with Passngers and higher up Camp Bosses , but what I did was had them go to bridge and watch and then the crew meeting after we then went into Company meetings , we never encountered any negative feed back , we also scheduled drills around critical working times so as not to interrupt any Revenue stream, as long as you where pleasant about it and they agreed never had problems- we worried more on fire drills and abandon ship drills
I'm glad all were recovered. RIP and best wishes to the families going forward.
I did a 4 day cruise in 2016, which i always said I'd never do, because even before Titanic came out, I was fascinated with it. But it was a Backstreet Boys cruise and I couldn't help myself. When we were doing the safety duties, I was thinking I should of brought a notebook. Everyday, I made sure there was the 2 life vests, because I'm terrible with directions, so I knew if something happened, I'd just be following the crowd and hoping they are going the right way. I couldn't imagine getting on a boat and not doing any sort of drill. Also, if I was buying a boat and the person said it was unsinkable, I'd be running away so fast, talk about a red flag
I've been watching your videos and they are interesting and informative.
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Another excellent informed post.
This is just so horrific and tragic. 💔💔💔
I was trained that the lives onboard are the captains responsibility. Doing safety drills should never be optional, surprised they are
Yeah, but the time and chaos of this event is very specific. We want to blame someone, and there is an argument to be made that more should have been done, but really this was a tragic set of circumstances and not gross negligence
Taking a deep breath here.
I realize that this most definitely sounds like a conspiracy theory but…I saw a huge red flag when I read that Mike Lynch’s co-defendant in the fraud case (they were acquitted) was hit (and killed) by a car a day or two later!! Does not appear to be a hit and run as the female driver was mentioned but dang that’s a helluva coincidence.
“There are no coincidences” and “Make it look like an accident” flashed through my mind.
The six crew members got off the yacht (one -the chef-perished) and all the passengers (including the attorney) died.
At any rate, it sounds like a good story plot. Maybe there will be a movie.
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I read somewhere that there was a party on that boat (to celebrate the victory at court) which lasted the whole night. One lady who was saved with her baby said she was in bed since 5 minutes whe she felt the boat tilting. So that had to be around 4, 4.30 in the morning. And the crew toghether with the wife of Mr Lynch were all on deck at that hour... what if they were all drunk? They might have forgotten the lazarette open, they failed to start the engine to keep the bow to the wind when anchor lost its grip, and also forgot to lower the centreboard... it would not be the first time that a boat sinks because of alcohol..
It's pretty silly to say that a boat is unsinkable when is already at the bottom of the sea. The builder worries about massive lawsuits, but such statements will not help him if the enquiry finds design faults. We need to wait and see. My money is on a series of very unfortunate, extremely rare set of circumstances coming together
Among all the possible people to be blamed, usually at the end the one that will be found guilty is one of the dead. He cannot complain, so everybody is happy! 😅
thanks for this information. Yes, knowledge may have saved lives.
Brilliant vlog again and quite incredible that guests not trained in a boat drill ! Keep them coming
There need to be mandatory safety drills, an alarm in all cabins, emergency automatic lighting, immersion suits in all cabins with compact air supply bottle that directly attaches to a face mask with a head torch built in, as recently developed and advertised on TH-cam.
Why not include emergency buoyancy airbags to keep the vessel afloat when flooded?
We forget how cruel the sea is, a phrase the inhabitants of Porticello use.
And, Porticello residents have a special prayer when ever they see a waterspout.
And, 34 Porticello residents have died at sea since 1919.
And Porticello has an annual remembrance service at sea.
None of us are here for long.
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Thank you for the most up todate info , i f i were in charge of the investigation i would definitely raise that yacht up to see where every switch position was on the consal, check every sea cock including emergancy pumps were in the open or closrd position and the pumps were flowing in the right direction , what hatches were left open.
Does the yacht have buoyancy tanks ? How much chain was out on the anchor? Was there a rear stern anchor ? Did any of the divers take pictures ?
The only way you could flip a yacht that size would be air bags attached to the keel , larger ships can be launched that way .
There can never ever be an unsinkable sea vessel. That having been said, in my opinion in these early days everyone is expected to speculate on what caused the yatch to sink. However I think that it is inappropriate for anyone to comment substantively on the reasons for the sinking without the outcome of the investigation.
I will not comment except that it doesn’t make sense to comment if no comment needs to be made. Otherwise I would say let the people express their opinion as it is not the official judgement, it’s only TH-cam.
Self-Righting Lifeboats are unsinkable.
@@BambinoAmericanoHe didn't say not to comment; he said what he thought was right - and I agree.
Unsinkable is right up there with fireproof and waterproof and mosquito repellent.
@@BambinoAmericano In addition the opinions are likely to be wrong.
Any comments from the yacht designers and builders are very reckless at this point. They have little information to go by. Seems an aggressive campaign to put blame on the crew before knowing what happened.
FYI. The retractable keel was in the up position thus the boat to recover from a 90 deg knockdown. With the keel extended, the boat can take a 120 deg knockdown
Sorry, you are wrong. The designers and builders are much more educated on the possibilities of failure than anyone else.
@@ohsweetmystery They know the boat better than anyone but they don't know how the events unfolded.
Mistakes in judgement happen every day; even on the high sea !! ..
@@ohsweetmystery that is most little true how ever that do t have all the facts to work with. As any professional engineer will not draw any conclusions to they know if all. And to claim a vessel is unsinkable calls from the CEO calls In to question there motives.
Where are the engine room air ventilation shaft openings at on these vessels?
If it list to that area, that can also be a water ingress area
@@JoelAntoinette above deck for sure.
No one has mentioned that. At least that I've seen. That would explain engine room flooding if it did.
So I am no super yacht captain. I do captain my own private 53 foot sailing vessel . I guarantee you anyone that steps foot on my boat gets a full saftey drill when they board my vessel . Everything from life rafts , EPIRB’s in their sailing vests , the main vessel and the two life rafts. They know where all the fire extinguishers are . What the smoke and CO alarms sound like . Where first aid kits are and emergency flashlights . How to operate the VHF, the Marine radio and Ham. They have to know how to deploy life rafts , operate all the equipment in the rafts and get into their survival suits.
Now if I am a rich dude I guarantee I am going to have a abundance of well trained, well rested and well accommodated crew over a few more bloody toys. My bridge would be manned 24/7 by well rested qualified staff.
Bit that is probably why I will never be rich.
Lol. Your 50 footer does not come close to this vessel.
What is your briefing for a tornado?
@@mattk8810 Your right it does not and I was in no way comparing it to this vessel. What I was pointing out was that saftey briefings on super yachts are Abysmal compared to serious sailing vessels not floating luxury hotels .
As for surviving what that yacht encountered it was a freak accident and I doubt many vessels of similar size or smaller would without a lot of luck.
I have had 50 years at sea and have been fortunate enough to have never faced a water spout. Hopefully with the years I have left I will not ever and I will die of old age at the helm of my boat.
Thank you for your reporting.
The comments section was informative regarding preventing future situations like this.
Anyone who lives in the Midwest or South of the US knows that tornados will cleave a relatively narrow and random line as it moves. It is not usual to see one side of a street flattened and 20yds across the street, just fine. JK
@@johnsmith-tn8rn Agree. I live in the Midwest. Almost 30 years ago we had a tornado hit the east side of town and the following night there was another tornado on the west side. It ripped away a large metal building which was part of a lumber yard but there were some boards stacked outside in the parking lot and it didn't touch those, they were still stacked undisturbed about 10 yards from the front door. The building and the rest of the lumber were gone or scattered over a large area.
@@phillipaj.5588This is exactly how I visualised it in my own head. Not jumping on conspiracy theory, it was he or it’s his fault. That was one mighty storm. In a previous video from esysman, he shows a yacht being flipped from stern down bow up in the air! So that’s exactly how I saw it!
My friend's house was leveled in a tornado with her in it. She had a couple of seconds of warning. Everything was gone. She crawled out from under total rubble. It was a miracle that she lived. Someone returned her purse from ten miles away. Her neighbors house didn't lose a roof shingle.
DEFINITELY seen MANY tornadoes in Florida do that. 1998 and 2008 .Two different tornadoes. Both between midnight and 5 am. No possibility to know it was coming. One went right beside my brothers house through his pasture..killed 28 people behind him. ( including my friend Steve and his 8 and 10 year old children ) Spending days searching for the eventual body recovery . Another crossed the end of my sister’s driveway . 19 people before and after her house lost their lives. I don’t take it lightly how close I came to losing my family.
@@gnostic268 my buddy Steve and his 2 young children died in one. I was with search and rescue for 2 days looking for their bodies. Like you mentioned about non disturbance..Steve was he was working on a 1966 Bronco in his lean to. His trailer was gone..but the service manual was still on the page of what he was working on? Bronco and lean to untouched..but absolutely no part of his trailer was left. I can’t imagine how terrifying it must have been for these people?
Etap (Belgian boat builder) used to built unsinkable yachts. But the biggest one was 48 feet. You could fill them with water and still they did not sink. Their hull had a fibreglass foam sandwich construction.
I have an Etap (only the 28i) I understand it could be sawn in half and both halves would float, but I don't know if that's true. I do know it could still catch fire, or other calamities are possible, so I'm not relying wholly on the unsinkableness.
Foam can saturate too, over time. It's horrible stuff.
If they hit a rock and break, they do sink. Of course, nothing is "unsinkable". Unsinkable in this context means that it's not the tempest that makes them sink.
@@uffa00001 you are wrong, these hulls do not sink. You can break the boat in 2 and both parts will float, look it up
@@MrAppelvink OK, what I mean is that "unsinkable" is not to be read as "regardless of human behaviour". I hope it is clear now.
There are no boat drills because the owners don't want to imagine a scenario where their very expensive yacht could put them in danger. Same for the renters of a very expensive yachts.
There's some truth in what you wrote. It rarely happens so preparing is a waste of their time ... until it happens.
@@TerryKeever Costa Concordia. A cruise ship officer can evict you from the cruise if you fail to attend what ever form of lifeboat drill they have.
Australia// Thanks for the reports. I stayed up a lot to watch (live cam) this search/recovery operation and have to say that the Divers were amazing to watch and also the harbor teams-very professional and very interesting to see them working.
Thank you for the update,it’s a huge tragedy what happened to that yacht and many excuses are coming to avoid lawsuits ,everything you say makes sense to regular people,surviving skills are important when you are dealing with the ocean !
A rain wrapped tornado hit Goderich Ont 🇨🇦 8:01 in 2011. No one saw it. The devastation was astounding.
It wouldn't surprise me if investigators found that it was a combination of watertight doors being insecure and the keel being retracted at the time of the storm.
According to the divers they noted the keel was partially raised while lying on the sea floor but the news article also said the keel could have jerked loose when it hit the sea floor so nothing is confirmed yet.
Exactly -- plus human factors