Suzanne is massively talented, changes her sound with skill and adaptability and has a great voice! Her writing is consistently clever, great detail and insight on the human condition. I have every single album she's released and miss her, want to see her come out of retirement.
You are correct Jim! I never see or hear her name anymore, so I just assumed she retired, or was taking a long break, but now I see Suzanne has released some albums recently, which received strong reviews! Jim, I want to thank you for alerting me to Suzanne still being out there - now I will look into purchasing some of her newer material. Sorry you couldn't see her in Glasgow. Hopefully you have another opportunity to witness her greatness, live! Take care.@@jimfarrell4635
True story. I was at Reading Festival in 1991 on the final day, Sunday. Great bands during the day with Sisters of Mercy headlining. I kid ye not, the sun was just beginning to set with darkness approaching when gradually from their tents, gaunt, ashen, wirey people with black lank hair began wandering their zombie-like way to the front of the stage. The goths were assembling, readying themselves for “The Sisters.”
That story about goths was vividly described......as long as no one came out of a coffin, or turned into a bat......all good! Speaking of goth - Peter Murphy rules!
I really like The Smiths ‘Meat is Murder’, but by far, the greatest album is The Waterboys ‘This is the Sea’. Completely forgotten, which is a shame. Listen to ‘Spirit’. I think it could have a career now, like ‘Running up that Hill’, if it was used in a film. Fantastic podcast. Experts talk about what they know about. A real treat.
7:35 😂.My father was very unsupportive as well,told me to sell me guitar ,because in his opinion nobody wants to hear me playing,the thing is he never heard me actually playing . Thanks for that little story.
Best music podcast ever :) (where to watch full episodes? If you release even 2, 3 or plus hours unedited videos, people will watch them non stop, like Joe Rogan, people crave long format unedited conversations).
I love Sisters of Mercy's first album. I also gave a listen to Spleen and Ideal and boy, I really like it. I like Psychocandy, Night Time and Meat is Murder. I thought The Cult was completely okay to listen to, but I personally was never obsessed with it. I'm with Steven and Tim about Nick Cave. His music never clicked with me when I heard it in my teens. I'd give Everything But The Girl's Love Not Money, Sting's The Dream of the Blue Turtles, Suzanne Vega's first album and Everything But The Girl - Love Not Money a listen later on.
This podcast has introduced me to some great music I'd previously not come across - wonderful discussions with great chemistry between Steve and Tim makes it a joy to listen to!
Interesting that Tim mentioned Michael Hedges, as i was introduced to his incredible guitar style when he supported Suzanne Vega at Wembley Arena. As a guitarist myself, I had never heard fingerstyle and was totally blown away.
Always nice to see someone else likes Outside The Gate. An overlooked album due to it's progressive nature but one I love. I would love to see Steven Wilson or Youth do something with it. People need to be told it's good - change the narrative. Jaz signed my copy a couple of months ago.
Maybe the best music show on You Tube or any medium. I can't say I didn't know the albums as they were my favourite then (I was 21) and it was a fantastic year for music. Keep on producing this fantastic show, informative, witty, at times nostalgic but always smart
i love this podcast so much. i'm a fan of both of you, plus i'm being introduced to loads of great music have you guys considered playing the music your talking about quietly in the background?
Tim's story about his father reminds me of the time we sat down for Sunday lunch and Joy Division's Atmosphere came on the radio. Of which my dad remarked. "This Is the kind of cr*p you like"
Glorious podcast. I’m 58 and became obsessed with Suzanne Vega in ’85. Then last year she let me take her photographic portrait at her soundcheck in Cardiff on her world tour…… she was sitting in the very seat I sat in seeing her perform for the first time! Bravo gents!
As someone who was learning his craft at this time its just amazing how much you 2 sound like when my buddy & I talk music.From Prefab Sprout to Suzanne Vega & today just when I thought to myself "they wont mention Tanita Tikaram" you call her out. You left out Simply Red but since it lead to 1986 Curiosity Killed The Cat you can recall it on your next 86 show 😃 Great conversation fella's. As an American who sent all his demo's to UK (Rough Trade, Kitchenware) youre brining back great memories. Cheers!
Love Like Blood is still to this day my all time favourite rock song ! I had the K7 in my walkman on my way to skiing winter camp in the bus. We were travelling by night. I discovered it then and simply couldn't believe it! I rewinded it and played it over and over again!
The Main Difference between the First and Second Sisters albums is 2 things 1) The first album was made by a band, the second was essentially a Solo album and secondly you see a massive shift is technology, in essence the drum machines sounded way better! I love Both, but Floodland is my Favourite of the 3. I saw the Doors (Riders on the storm) with Ian in 2006 NYE, one of the most unexpected and Impressive gigs I ever went to. Steve Brown did a fantastic Job producing Love, he also did the better Version IMHO of Electric (Released as 'Peace') Rubin just made it sound too raw. Meat is Murder is by Far my favourite Smiths album. 'That Joke isn't funny anymore' is my favourite song by them and its probably in my all time top 10 songs. However the Bass in Barbarism is just of the scale. I feel Madchester was massively influenced by that bass riff. Another top podcast.
Looking forward to Tim's future analysis of the time signatures in Outside The Gate.😀 Always loved Brighter Than A Thousand Suns - one of the best "play loud" albums.
completely agree with the Jesus and Mary Chain conclusion. Definitely a one trick pony, because after Psychocandy, they went to a traditional rock n roll sound, like T - Rex and Status Quo vibe. I think 'Honey's Dead' from 1992 was quite interesting with its dancy drum machines, but by then, bands like Curve were doing that so much better. it takes Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine to build on the sound and show the next natural progression of it.
Ah really enjoyed this one, some of my favorites on here. So glad we all agree on Pagan Place and This is the Sea! Have to have a catch up soon Tim when in BoA. Cheers Paul (Forgot the Chameleons second album!) ;)
Motley Crue should have been sued for stealing the Love Like Blood groove on Dr Feelgood. And Steven didn’t comment that the PT Delirium Years album cover is very similar to DCD Spleen and Ideal…
Thank you Steven and Tim for these marvelous videos. They are so informative and such a treat. I hope you guys continue making this podcast/TH-cam series forever. Thanks again. Peace.
Love this podcast! The time seems to go by so fast while listening to this!
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...Αfrer the flight to stars... every landing is a..bit steep..😊 Nick Cave...cave right!!... even alone, in front of his piano..he failed to bind me with the "magic rope"...of contact.. I appreciated...but I never loved him...musically always... I love α singer and guitarist player whose name is Luca.. A love Dexys...Smiths..( the title alone is...enough)!!😁 And finally...WHATER BOYS... I have a my cousin's demo from their concert in Athens.. I saw the message from the first moment.. It wasn't possible to anwer immediately if you're not in the right place... I like searching my memories about years and bands...as I can...before say anything.... I'm so sorry...for to late... Thank you so much for sharing!!!...😌🙏🫶🫶🎸♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️🌬🌊🐬🌊🎶🌅🌅🌅🌙🌌🌠🌠
PH is a truly unique artist, but here are a few suggestions (that you may not like!): As inventive, eclectic and prolific - John Cale, Brian Eno, Miles Davis ; as passionate and prolific - Kevin Coyne; as musically gifted and prolific - Bill Nelson; as lyrically detailed and prolific - Richard Thompson; even more prolific (and worth checking out) - Bill Laswell, Felt Kuti.......
This is an excellent podcast regarding a year that was loaded with a variety of great releases. I only wish I had known about most of those albums back then. For the exception of Sting, I didn’t know anyone who was really into those bands until several years later. Guess I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Oh well, better late than never. I love that Killing Joke album, along with the Cult and JAMC. And the Cocteau Twins were special, particularly early on.
Another quintaesential episode, absolutely! 😛 Seriously, some of my faves from these days in here. Funny enough, I didn't like The Smiths back then, not until The Queen Is Dead. I appreciate them more now.
"I don't hear jazz in Synchronicity" I mean, I love you guys but you lost a ton of credibility with that one. "Oh My God" and "Murder By Numbers" both would have fit perfectly on Dream of the Blue Turtles. Sting's first solo album was a very natural evolution from the last Police album.
Great episode chaps. Some good albums on there. Apart from the Smiths I have always detested Morrisey`s voice. I have tried many times to like them but never last a whole song.
@@nicolasbascunan4013 unsure, I just thought there was mention how the live in person event would be up to stream (if not streamed-live). But I may be misremembering. I woud assume it would be on The Album Years pages (TH-cam, Facebook and on the Streaming Services).
Marr/Nile Rogers. It has been for about a decade that "Barbarism Begins at Home" music /compositional structure (not the words, not the singing, not sonic quality, not the tempo, not the mood) is a very recognizable tribute/homage to Chic's "I Want Your Love". Both songs are on the surface complete opposites but if you follow the structure of the music, especially toward the end of the song where they jam, you may hear what I heard years ago (it may be easier to discern on the 12" version of "I Want Your Love"). I think Killing Joke's "Brighter Than a Thousand Suns" was good but over-produced / too slick after the success and urgency of Nighttime and that may have been a huge reason for them going extreme volume/metal which I loved the idea but for the most part didn't love the albums overall, but I look forward to a reassessment at some point.
I feel you on Nick Cave (and PJ Harvey for that matter), I'm 69 now and I only started listening to Cave seriously last year. I urge you to spend some more time with him, or perhaps see him live.
I think, Sting‘s first Solo Album is not put into the right light. The truth is, that The Police was more than over their end when thy had to fulfill their contract and produce the last two albums. The point was the fight they had with each other and that Sting was somehow a real ashole, as Stewart is still telling. Sting wanted to show his music efforts and abilities not only as a song writer and singer, and so he grouped the really best jazz musicians around him, he could get, to show everybody, how successful he can be without the two Police Mates. He took a great risk with that and he won the game, he was even more successful, wiithout, than with his origine band…when I saw Porcupine Tree last year, I felt reminded to the Police reunion tour in 2007…can it be, that there is someone around, who doesn‘t want to realize the similarity even here, leaving his band in stress and outpowered, just to start off as a solo musician gathered by massive good jazz musicians? I think, this is a quite clear synchronicity between the two English men here…?
Good discussion and precise analyses. I agree with Tim about Jesus and the Mary Chain and with Steven about Nick Cave. Neither artist appeals to me, even though they undoubtedly have made some quality music. I also recall that The Police were considered somewhat suspicious as a post-punk band because its members were already quite old
Probably like most Americans I started listening to Everything But The Girl in 1996 with Walking Wounded. I have always adored Thorns voice. Yet for some reason I never was curious enough to listen to their 80s stuff. I just started listening to Love Not Money- based on your recommendation- no words can describe how beautiful this album is. Unbelievable and sad I’ve not heard it over the last 30 years.
Walking Wounded is great (as is the new album Fuse), but I'd also strongly recommend Eden, Idlewild (very DIY and mellow) and Amplified Heart (EBTG in John Martyn/Nick Drake singer/songwriter mode).
Thanks for the excellent live podcast event last week, I hope there are more of those! I didn't get to ask my question so asking it now, maybe it'll spark a discussion: You've spoken before about how artists can come in and out of fashion. Their reputation can suffer after some poor albums or sounding out of step with the times, and they start being thought of as 'past it' or a bit naffa. They need something - a comeback album, a culture shift, or sadly, their passing - to be re-appreciated and cemented as icons. Some examples - Bowie (from mid-80s, arguably until his comeback in the 2010s), McCartney after a shakey 80s, Johnny Cash with the American series. Who, in your view, could get a critical and popular re-evaluation in the next 10 or so years?
Personally, I think it could happen for Phil Collins (again, sadly, once he passes away). The public will remember his many hits (including his soundtrack work) with Genesis and solo, critics will point out his work across many genres and as a producer, clips of him playing different instruments will be all over on social media to point out he had many talents, and he'll be heralded as an icon from a time when you could look like a normal bloke and still be a massive pop star. Would be richly deserved, of course!
Nicely said about Phil Collins, a truly remarkable talent, drums, melodies, songwriting, vocals, producing. Genesis' many brilliant albums would be more than enough of a career for Phil to go down as one of the greats, but then add his stellar solo career... I agree, he'll be known as a phenomenal musical giant, it definitely will happen when all is said and done!
How can SW and TB discuss 1985 and not bring up Marillion, releasing a very unfashionable concept album and also their biggest seller? Can we hope for a Part 5?
Send us your album reviews and questions for inclusion on future episodes of The Album Years, we'd love to hear from you! fanlist.com/thealbumyears
The best show on TH-cam! In one year 1985,
we had more quality music than in the last 2 decades...
cheeky. you wouldnt know where to find good current stuff
Suzanne Vega's first album is a real jewel, hope many people discover it
Suzanne is massively talented, changes her sound with skill and adaptability and has a great voice! Her writing is consistently clever, great detail and insight on the human condition. I have every single album she's released and miss her, want to see her come out of retirement.
@@treff9226pretty sure she played Glasgow last year. Had tickets but couldn't make it on the day.
You are correct Jim! I never see or hear her name anymore, so I just assumed she retired, or was taking a long break, but now I see Suzanne has released some albums recently, which received strong reviews! Jim, I want to thank you for alerting me to Suzanne still being out there - now I will look into purchasing some of her newer material. Sorry you couldn't see her in Glasgow. Hopefully you have another opportunity to witness her greatness, live! Take care.@@jimfarrell4635
Agree, this is one of my all-time favorite debuts
It's her best, IMO.
The Cocteau Twins - There's no early 90's Shoegaze scene without them.
Gorgeous, ethereal, heaven sent - Cocteau Twins fill me with wonder and spirit, their music is an otherworldly gift to music fans!
True story. I was at Reading Festival in 1991 on the final day, Sunday. Great bands during the day with Sisters of Mercy headlining. I kid ye not, the sun was just beginning to set with darkness approaching when gradually from their tents, gaunt, ashen, wirey people with black lank hair began wandering their zombie-like way to the front of the stage. The goths were assembling, readying themselves for “The Sisters.”
That story about goths was vividly described......as long as no one came out of a coffin, or turned into a bat......all good! Speaking of goth - Peter Murphy rules!
I really like The Smiths ‘Meat is Murder’, but by far, the greatest album is The Waterboys ‘This is the Sea’. Completely forgotten, which is a shame. Listen to ‘Spirit’. I think it could have a career now, like ‘Running up that Hill’, if it was used in a film. Fantastic podcast. Experts talk about what they know about. A real treat.
This is the Sea was one of the top albums of that year for sure
7:35 😂.My father was very unsupportive as well,told me to sell me guitar ,because in his opinion nobody wants to hear me playing,the thing is he never heard me actually playing .
Thanks for that little story.
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!!! Well done to both...So vast and holistic music knowldge... This is the sea is probably my favourite from This year...
Love the podcast mates. I can’t wait for your next pod theme “The AI Years” in say 2040!
I love this podcast so much. Thanks for the part 4 :)
That’s hilarious, “Quaking with rage” and “Nico’s buried in a coffin in the crypt” 😂
that KJ and Cult albums were awesome
Best music podcast ever :) (where to watch full episodes? If you release even 2, 3 or plus hours unedited videos, people will watch them non stop, like Joe Rogan, people crave long format unedited conversations).
I love Sisters of Mercy's first album. I also gave a listen to Spleen and Ideal and boy, I really like it. I like Psychocandy, Night Time and Meat is Murder.
I thought The Cult was completely okay to listen to, but I personally was never obsessed with it.
I'm with Steven and Tim about Nick Cave. His music never clicked with me when I heard it in my teens.
I'd give Everything But The Girl's Love Not Money, Sting's The Dream of the Blue Turtles, Suzanne Vega's first album and Everything But The Girl - Love Not Money a listen later on.
This podcast has introduced me to some great music I'd previously not come across - wonderful discussions with great chemistry between Steve and Tim makes it a joy to listen to!
Interesting that Tim mentioned Michael Hedges, as i was introduced to his incredible guitar style when he supported Suzanne Vega at Wembley Arena. As a guitarist myself, I had never heard fingerstyle and was totally blown away.
Best podcast out there. No question.
Thank you gentlemen.
Remarkable show! Every episode offers such insight and substantive discussion. Nicely done, gentlemen!
What a great discussion. Thank you so much, gents. Yeah. 1985 is a real monster of a year for quality music releases. Anyhow. Brilliant discussion. ❤
Omar Hakim (drums) was a fusion drummer and played on Dream of the blue turtles + bring on the night. (outstanding drummer by the way)
Always nice to see someone else likes Outside The Gate. An overlooked album due to it's progressive nature but one I love. I would love to see Steven Wilson or Youth do something with it. People need to be told it's good - change the narrative. Jaz signed my copy a couple of months ago.
Maybe the best music show on You Tube or any medium. I can't say I didn't know the albums as they were my favourite then (I was 21) and it was a fantastic year for music. Keep on producing this fantastic show, informative, witty, at times nostalgic but always smart
Oh my god..."I probably prefer flood land"...over first and last and always....yep you boys do love a pop album!!!
i love this podcast so much. i'm a fan of both of you, plus i'm being introduced to loads of great music have you guys considered playing the music your talking about quietly in the background?
Tim's story about his father reminds me of the time we sat down for Sunday lunch and Joy Division's Atmosphere came on the radio. Of which my dad remarked. "This Is the kind of cr*p you like"
This is heavenly watchin y’all talk, I would so be in this conversation
Glorious podcast.
I’m 58 and became obsessed with Suzanne Vega in ’85. Then last year she let me take her photographic portrait at her soundcheck in Cardiff on her world tour…… she was sitting in the very seat I sat in seeing her perform for the first time!
Bravo gents!
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As someone who was learning his craft at this time its just amazing how much you 2 sound like when my buddy & I talk music.From Prefab Sprout to Suzanne Vega & today just when I thought to myself "they wont mention Tanita Tikaram" you call her out. You left out Simply Red but since it lead to 1986 Curiosity Killed The Cat you can recall it on your next 86 show 😃
Great conversation fella's. As an American who sent all his demo's to UK (Rough Trade, Kitchenware) youre brining back great memories. Cheers!
Closed captions came very close to renaming The Smiths album Meat is Mordor.
Kind of like that.
Thank you for this great highly interesting conversation!
Love Like Blood is still to this day my all time favourite rock song ! I had the K7 in my walkman on my way to skiing winter camp in the bus. We were travelling by night. I discovered it then and simply couldn't believe it! I rewinded it and played it over and over again!
Thanks for the flashback! I nearly forgot about that happening Suzanne Vega album.(and great "Vegan for the animals." t. right on, SW! )
Steven nailed my thoughts on Nick Cave exactly.
ive never been able to nail a thought to anything
The Main Difference between the First and Second Sisters albums is 2 things 1) The first album was made by a band, the second was essentially a Solo album and secondly you see a massive shift is technology, in essence the drum machines sounded way better! I love Both, but Floodland is my Favourite of the 3.
I saw the Doors (Riders on the storm) with Ian in 2006 NYE, one of the most unexpected and Impressive gigs I ever went to.
Steve Brown did a fantastic Job producing Love, he also did the better Version IMHO of Electric (Released as 'Peace') Rubin just made it sound too raw.
Meat is Murder is by Far my favourite Smiths album. 'That Joke isn't funny anymore' is my favourite song by them and its probably in my all time top 10 songs. However the Bass in Barbarism is just of the scale. I feel Madchester was massively influenced by that bass riff. Another top podcast.
Amazing, amazing podcast. Great work guys.Thank you.
Looking forward to Tim's future analysis of the time signatures in Outside The Gate.😀
Always loved Brighter Than A Thousand Suns - one of the best "play loud" albums.
i wanna align steven's speakers and monitor to the right place
What a fabulously interesting discussion, thanks folks!
A wonderful episode. I still occasionally listen to most of these albums...and now I'm going to reevaluate the ones I've not listened to so much.
Sisters of Mercy, March Violets, The Mission..
And yes, I tried over and over to appreciate Nick Cave but only the ballad with Kylie Minogue made me shiver
How on earth have you managed to make 4 episodes about 1985 albums and not discuss ‘A Secret Wish’ and ‘Wishful Thinking’ by Propaganda?
completely agree with the Jesus and Mary Chain conclusion. Definitely a one trick pony, because after Psychocandy, they went to a traditional rock n roll sound, like T - Rex and Status Quo vibe. I think 'Honey's Dead' from 1992 was quite interesting with its dancy drum machines, but by then, bands like Curve were doing that so much better. it takes Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine to build on the sound and show the next natural progression of it.
Ah really enjoyed this one, some of my favorites on here. So glad we all agree on Pagan Place and This is the Sea!
Have to have a catch up soon Tim when in BoA. Cheers Paul (Forgot the Chameleons second album!) ;)
Good to hear you namecheck Michael Hedges. Genius guitarist
I'm afraid I have the same problem with Nick Cave. I love him, don't like to listen to him
SW… that first born is dead byNick Cave is like the “Zeit” of his catalog featuring the anti-guitar of blixa bargeld .
Hahaha I totally agree on that : Sting was much more closer to Phil Collins than he was to Johnny Rotten😄
I always saw Nick Cave as being the Frank Zappa of goth. The dirty lyrics contribute to that I think
Motley Crue should have been sued for stealing the Love Like Blood groove on Dr Feelgood. And Steven didn’t comment that the PT Delirium Years album cover is very similar to DCD Spleen and Ideal…
Thank you Steven and Tim for these marvelous videos. They are so informative and such a treat. I hope you guys continue making this podcast/TH-cam series forever. Thanks again.
Peace.
Love this podcast! The time seems to go by so fast while listening to this!
...Αfrer the flight to stars... every landing is a..bit steep..😊
Nick Cave...cave right!!... even alone, in front of his piano..he failed to bind me with the "magic rope"...of contact..
I appreciated...but I never loved him...musically always...
I love α singer and guitarist player whose name is Luca..
A love Dexys...Smiths..( the title alone is...enough)!!😁
And finally...WHATER BOYS...
I have a my cousin's demo from their concert in Athens..
I saw the message from the first moment..
It wasn't possible to anwer immediately if you're not in the right place...
I like searching my memories about years and bands...as I can...before say anything....
I'm so sorry...for to late...
Thank you so much for sharing!!!...😌🙏🫶🫶🎸♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️🌬🌊🐬🌊🎶🌅🌅🌅🌙🌌🌠🌠
Artists as good and prolific as Peter Hammill? Recommendations please :)
PH is a truly unique artist, but here are a few suggestions (that you may not like!): As inventive, eclectic and prolific - John Cale, Brian Eno, Miles Davis ; as passionate and prolific - Kevin Coyne; as musically gifted and prolific - Bill Nelson; as lyrically detailed and prolific - Richard Thompson; even more prolific (and worth checking out) - Bill Laswell, Felt Kuti.......
Very interesting, such a great year indeed, The Damned's Phantasmagoria, New Model Army's No Rest for the Wicked etc.
This is an excellent podcast regarding a year that was loaded with a variety of great releases. I only wish I had known about most of those albums back then. For the exception of Sting, I didn’t know anyone who was really into those bands until several years later. Guess I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Oh well, better late than never. I love that Killing Joke album, along with the Cult and JAMC. And the Cocteau Twins were special, particularly early on.
Another quintaesential episode, absolutely! 😛 Seriously, some of my faves from these days in here. Funny enough, I didn't like The Smiths back then, not until The Queen Is Dead. I appreciate them more now.
Schoolboy error! Jim Morrison was not in AC/DC. Good Lord Steven hahaha
Excellent show. I bought a lot of records in 1985. It was a great year for music.
Nice to hear the mention of Frozen Moment by Roy Harper.
"I don't hear jazz in Synchronicity" I mean, I love you guys but you lost a ton of credibility with that one. "Oh My God" and "Murder By Numbers" both would have fit perfectly on Dream of the Blue Turtles. Sting's first solo album was a very natural evolution from the last Police album.
Great episode chaps. Some good albums on there. Apart from the Smiths I have always detested Morrisey`s voice. I have tried many times to like them but never last a whole song.
Thanks for sharing these classics. Cheers from Indiana
where's the one with audience you guys did last week?
yeah I though it was recorded. I'd love to hear the discussion including maybe some Q&A if they did that.
@@AllMediaReviewsPodcast where to watch full episodes?
@@nicolasbascunan4013 unsure, I just thought there was mention how the live in person event would be up to stream (if not streamed-live). But I may be misremembering.
I woud assume it would be on The Album Years pages (TH-cam, Facebook and on the Streaming Services).
Would love to hear you guys review the Made to Measure collections from the Crammed disc label.
R.E Sting, listen to "Murder By Numbers" from Synchronicity, written with Andy Summers...very jazz
Lonely Is An Eyesore was such a great 4ad compilation of Goth 🖤🧛🏻♂️🖤
also my fav KJ album. RIP Geordie
Tim's impression of his dad - "You sound just like this! BLOODY AWFUuUuUuUuL!" 😂
Marr/Nile Rogers. It has been for about a decade that "Barbarism Begins at Home" music /compositional structure (not the words, not the singing, not sonic quality, not the tempo, not the mood) is a very recognizable tribute/homage to Chic's "I Want Your Love". Both songs are on the surface complete opposites but if you follow the structure of the music, especially toward the end of the song where they jam, you may hear what I heard years ago (it may be easier to discern on the 12" version of "I Want Your Love").
I think Killing Joke's "Brighter Than a Thousand Suns" was good but over-produced / too slick after the success and urgency of Nighttime and that may have been a huge reason for them going extreme volume/metal which I loved the idea but for the most part didn't love the albums overall, but I look forward to a reassessment at some point.
Love that Tim mentioned "Heavens Gate", my favourite film of all time
I feel you on Nick Cave (and PJ Harvey for that matter), I'm 69 now and I only started listening to Cave seriously last year. I urge you to spend some more time with him, or perhaps see him live.
I think, Sting‘s first Solo Album is not put into the right light. The truth is, that The Police was more than over their end when thy had to fulfill their contract and produce the last two albums. The point was the fight they had with each other and that Sting was somehow a real ashole, as Stewart is still telling. Sting wanted to show his music efforts and abilities not only as a song writer and singer, and so he grouped the really best jazz musicians around him, he could get, to show everybody, how successful he can be without the two Police Mates. He took a great risk with that and he won the game, he was even more successful, wiithout, than with his origine band…when I saw Porcupine Tree last year, I felt reminded to the Police reunion tour in 2007…can it be, that there is someone around, who doesn‘t want to realize the similarity even here, leaving his band in stress and outpowered, just to start off as a solo musician gathered by massive good jazz musicians? I think, this is a quite clear synchronicity between the two English men here…?
An interesting observation, and a view I have to agree with
Never occurred to me, but yes… I think you’ve got that right.
Good discussion and precise analyses. I agree with Tim about Jesus and the Mary Chain and with Steven about Nick Cave. Neither artist appeals to me, even though they undoubtedly have made some quality music. I also recall that The Police were considered somewhat suspicious as a post-punk band because its members were already quite old
Fabulous trip down memory lane. Loving the album years!
I'm enjoying these videos very much. My only critique is the opening (and ending) track: too loud and doesn't sound like Steven Wilson.
That track is taken from a song of his, Eminent Sleaze.
Do you think you will ever get through an episode without saying "sensibility" ? 😂
Morrissey an old soul for sure. Enlightened and principled beyond measure.
Amazing albums!! Steven and Tim
Suzanne Vega, The Smiths, Sting. Fantastic music.
It's Tiny Dynamine not Dynamte btw ✌️
No love for The Damned's Phantasmagoria :(
Probably like most Americans I started listening to Everything But The Girl in 1996 with Walking Wounded. I have always adored Thorns voice. Yet for some reason I never was curious enough to listen to their 80s stuff. I just started listening to Love Not Money- based on your recommendation- no words can describe how beautiful this album is. Unbelievable and sad I’ve not heard it over the last 30 years.
Walking Wounded is great (as is the new album Fuse), but I'd also strongly recommend Eden, Idlewild (very DIY and mellow) and Amplified Heart (EBTG in John Martyn/Nick Drake singer/songwriter mode).
Thrilled to have you two talk about Dead Can Dance once again!
Thanks for the excellent live podcast event last week, I hope there are more of those! I didn't get to ask my question so asking it now, maybe it'll spark a discussion:
You've spoken before about how artists can come in and out of fashion. Their reputation can suffer after some poor albums or sounding out of step with the times, and they start being thought of as 'past it' or a bit naffa. They need something - a comeback album, a culture shift, or sadly, their passing - to be re-appreciated and cemented as icons. Some examples - Bowie (from mid-80s, arguably until his comeback in the 2010s), McCartney after a shakey 80s, Johnny Cash with the American series. Who, in your view, could get a critical and popular re-evaluation in the next 10 or so years?
Personally, I think it could happen for Phil Collins (again, sadly, once he passes away). The public will remember his many hits (including his soundtrack work) with Genesis and solo, critics will point out his work across many genres and as a producer, clips of him playing different instruments will be all over on social media to point out he had many talents, and he'll be heralded as an icon from a time when you could look like a normal bloke and still be a massive pop star. Would be richly deserved, of course!
Nicely said about Phil Collins, a truly remarkable talent, drums, melodies, songwriting, vocals, producing. Genesis' many brilliant albums would be more than enough of a career for Phil to go down as one of the greats, but then add his stellar solo career...
I agree, he'll be known as a phenomenal musical giant, it definitely will happen when all is said and done!
Good introduction to this topic. Thanks.
On your show you should add some music extracts.
Pj Harvey had some incredible records!
Let's see how many times the word 'sensibility' is crammed into this episode! 🤔
Many times 😂😂😂
Is Tim just softly spoken or hasn’t he turned his mic on? 🤗
Where to watch the full episodes?
I’ve only been subscribed for 2 days but I’m hooked! What I love about these two is it feels like an extended conversation with my band mates 🤩
How can SW and TB discuss 1985 and not bring up Marillion, releasing a very unfashionable concept album and also their biggest seller? Can we hope for a Part 5?
That's on next week's episode 🙂
@@thealbumyearspodcast Thanks, looking forward to it!
Sensibility, sensibility, sensibility, sensibility, sensibility......... Please. Stop. Saying. Sensibility. 😮
I love Suzanne Vega's Marlene on the Wall!
Let's not forget the most amazing album of that year : FGTH's Welcome to the Pleasure Dome!
This Nation's Saving Grace - The Fall. One of the best albums of 85.
Clan of Xymox?
One of the only things that I enjoy more than listening to good music is listening to these two talk about music. Subscribed
Andrew Eldritch said they wore black, but we're not a Goth Band. He hated the term.
What Steven said about Nick Cave is exactly how I feel about Steven's work, I know it's really good, but it does nothing for me.
All of it? His stuff doesn't all sound the same style. Unlike Nick.
His latest solo album is amazing