I've been doing the parallel compression to get good attack for years, but never thought about adding more sustain using the same method. Very nice. Thank you.
love this channel. your other video made me a subscriber - how to make summing track stacks with sends within all in one tidy package. revolutionized my workflow, since I want my vocal or bass or drum-specific processing all within the same group, and this one has me running to the studio to try this as well with my live drums. keep up the good work, man!
Not sure why but my drums only sound good when I clip the drum buss a bit via compression. I don't like to run it in the red but it sounds so freaking good. Only the snare clips anyway. I know people do this on purpose but not sure if the actual channel is supposed to clip.
You can definitely clip the drums bus/run it hot with plugins etc, then just turn it down so the channel isnt going above 0. Going over 0 in your DAW won’t add anything just bad gain staging haha
Hey man, I think the snare was the CLA expansion pack for trigger and the kick might have been from Getgood Drums modern and massive. but they are blended with the real kick and snare. You should check out some of my drum mixing videos to get an idea of the plugins I like to use!
Usually I’ll EQ first if the sound is really bad… needs some corrective EQ, maybe a vocal is too bassy/boomy. Fixing that before hitting compresssor will get better results
I’m interested in the routing in logic, I like to send all parallel stuff pre fader so I can solo it too listen, whenever I set up a bus post fader it always has the dry signal to deal with, this is making thing tricky at the moment ? Do you always route all parallel busses post fader?
@@spinlightstudios Thanks man love the channel, question how can I solo the send to hear the effect in isolation without hearing the dry . I don’t want to mix like this but I can’t hear the effect in solo unless I switch to pre fader, maybe I just don’t know what I’m doin yet, be assured this real instrument recording not edm or midi stuff
@@paulferrarodrums yeah that makes sense, or you could use the “gain” plugin and use the swap left and right button if it’s a stereo send. That will flip which side the signal is on!
@@spinlightstudios interesting thanks for your prompt response I will try that .. just FYI , I’ve just set up my last mix session like yours in the basement recording.. it’s going well at this stage I was using track stacks instead of aux tracks for drum (snares Tom’s ect) groups, interesting that you used sends for drum groups , but you used track stacks for the other instruments , it made my routing tricky , any thoughts as to why?? Cheers mate appreciate the response
you solve my recent mixing tracks problems in 8 minutes!! thank you so much dude..!!
Stoked to help man!
I've been doing the parallel compression to get good attack for years, but never thought about adding more sustain using the same method. Very nice. Thank you.
Thanks Aaron! It feels like there is always something new to learn when it comes to audio!
The fun thing would be to add both if needed.
love this channel. your other video made me a subscriber - how to make summing track stacks with sends within all in one tidy package. revolutionized my workflow, since I want my vocal or bass or drum-specific processing all within the same group, and this one has me running to the studio to try this as well with my live drums. keep up the good work, man!
Thanks Matthew, appreciate the comment and glad you’ve been enjoying the videos!
I got a fresh new hard rock type project to start mixing and this was the exact thing I needed. Thanks!
Glad I could help!
I eq some of the low end and high end out as you don't really need it's the mid range punch you're going for
So much gold going back through your videos Rhys. Helping me really pull my mixes up to the next level. You're a boss mate :)
Thanks Kyron!
Not sure why but my drums only sound good when I clip the drum buss a bit via compression. I don't like to run it in the red but it sounds so freaking good. Only the snare clips anyway. I know people do this on purpose but not sure if the actual channel is supposed to clip.
You can definitely clip the drums bus/run it hot with plugins etc, then just turn it down so the channel isnt going above 0. Going over 0 in your DAW won’t add anything just bad gain staging haha
Great video man!
Thanks legend!
Really good video, super simple and super effective!!
Thanks!
Good info on this channel. Subscribed!
Thanks Jerry!
That was awesome. Loved the playing too. Was that you?
Thanks! Yep that’s my drumming!
Drums sound nice. What samples/plugin were used?
Hey man, I think the snare was the CLA expansion pack for trigger and the kick might have been from Getgood Drums modern and massive. but they are blended with the real kick and snare. You should check out some of my drum mixing videos to get an idea of the plugins I like to use!
Is this good for drill
Is SPL transient designer a good alternative for FG Bomber?
Yeah definitely
Do you always compress after EQ? If not, when do you compress first, is there a reason beyond "it sounds good to me"?
Usually I’ll EQ first if the sound is really bad… needs some corrective EQ, maybe a vocal is too bassy/boomy. Fixing that before hitting compresssor will get better results
Would have been interested to hear how it sounded within the song.
Try it out and you will know, it’s a great way to make your drums bigger/punchier
Great tips! But what's on the drum bus you keep sending everything to? :)
Thanks! Just some EQ, Compression and a limiter I think!
I’m interested in the routing in logic, I like to send all parallel stuff pre fader so I can solo it too listen, whenever I set up a bus post fader it always has the dry signal to deal with, this is making thing tricky at the moment ?
Do you always route all parallel busses post fader?
Usually I do most things post fader and don’t find it problematic!
@@spinlightstudios Thanks man love the channel, question how can I solo the send to hear the effect in isolation without hearing the dry . I don’t want to mix like this but I can’t hear the effect in solo unless I switch to pre fader, maybe I just don’t know what I’m doin yet, be assured this real instrument recording not edm or midi stuff
I find this most frustrating when I want pan a guitars reverb to the opposite side , I have to go pre fader so it will isolate
@@paulferrarodrums yeah that makes sense, or you could use the “gain” plugin and use the swap left and right button if it’s a stereo send. That will flip which side the signal is on!
@@spinlightstudios interesting thanks for your prompt response I will try that .. just FYI , I’ve just set up my last mix session like yours in the basement recording.. it’s going well at this stage I was using track stacks instead of aux tracks for drum (snares Tom’s ect) groups, interesting that you used sends for drum groups , but you used track stacks for the other instruments , it made my routing tricky , any thoughts as to why??
Cheers mate appreciate the response
What behringer control surface is on your desk??
Behringer X Touch
Awesome trick. Thanks for these nuggets. Do you send the output of your parallel bus to the drum bus?
Thanks mate! Yeah I do, it lets me control the whole drum sound at one fader 🎚
Idk if you said it but rack plugin is that?
Which one? The UAD 1176?
Where do u typically route ur parallel comp’d drums to? Back into ALL DRUMS bus or somewhere else?
Back into my drum bus, then I have complete control over the drum mix from one fader
Then I have some mild gluey compression on the drum bus as a whole
interesting, i always use an 1176 with fast everything
you saved my career with this video...please understand...lol
Haha glad I could help
Just wondering what the reasoning for doing this? And what genres would you use this technique?
Anywhere you need your drums to be punchier. It’s not really genre specific
those aren't actual live acoustic drums tho, right?
Yes they are!
@@spinlightstudios daaaaaaamn... SICK !
WHY bus 33?? WHY!!?! 😭
Any bus will work haha
Droams