Exactly. You miss that “Fake person” of who they “Pretended” to be. So in all actuality, the person you miss was not Real. Narcissist are soulless beings. They are not human, they just pretend to be. It is like loving a Robot.
They KNOW what a beautiful person they had, and they realize now that you're gone forever. I was so good to my guy, but when i realized what he is, i RAN...
If they truly know why do they destroy what they have? I am so hurt and confused by all of this like most of us I’m sure. I just can’t wrap my head around it and I don’t know for certain my ex is a true narc or just has some of these traits that came out after he was caught cheating. I went back and forth with him like a yo yo bc I was that in love. I finally stopped and left in September after 2 years of the triangle! I am so broken from this and not sure I’ll ever be the same again. He stopped speaking to me shortly after I left bc I started dating someone I had dated for a couple months during our early break up this year (March). But I left him to go back to my “love”. It was brutal him bringing up the new guy all the time but it seemed as if he didn’t remember him cheating and me catching him with the same person so many times. I really should have left the second I found out.
@@GGSmallsI was with mine for 5 years. He was very GREEDY and stuck on himself. I know how you feel, and I'm so sorry to hear that. He FUTURE FAKED me regarding marriage. He had no intentions of getting married. He never told me how much he made. He said he was saving for our wedding. That was a LIE! He used me, and it took me a long time to get over it. I did date a few years later, but I only liked the guy as a friend. Hey, we'll be fine. Just give it TIME.❤💕🫠
@GGSmalls I feel for you, honey, but these are the facts. Narcissists are Toxic people and they cannot help themselves. Keep coming back to this room. You / we will all learn together. Stick together. In TIME WE WILL BE FINE. 💕🌷😉🫠❤️
Same. Divorced. He discarded me after the abuse and hid the new supply, karmic, toxic mistress still in the shadows from me. JUDGMENT has been called and his bad karma is whopping that a@#.
My aging narrcisist doesn't know where my tree is. I pulled up roots....moved away....and changed everything.....address, email, phone number....all of it. If she's having a tough time without me? She asked for it. I don't care what she's doing or who she's doing it with.
Because they know you are the kind of a person who would never leave anything that is alive behind, not a bird, not a cat, not a dog. And yet you left them. Thus, they are just dead meat, corps if you will, left for the worms to finish their job. Not an easy pill to swallow for them 😂
I'm glad that relationship is over. He ended it and I walked away and went no contact. I'm just trying to learn as much as possible so I don't end up in that mess again.
My husband and I pastored churches for 30 years but the affairs and lies finally closed the ministry and 7 years later no contact I have finally moved on. Praying my heart will be healed completely I will never be deceived again thank you Jesus love to the States from England ❤❤
Narcissists are Engines. And Engines need FUEL!!! When you shut off the Gas, they use the slow drain battery. They feed off of the small things around them. In my Case its much much worse. My Narcissist is feeding on her children. And I am trying to save my 17 year old from her. All i can do is Pray... I give it to Abba every single day. I pray for my little girl who holds on to the Bible, and to Yeshua. Four more months. And my daughter will be free.
An insubordinate carnal Christian is the perfect definition of what I was! Praise God that He came after me one more time! He opened my eyes and gave me the information I needed, and in that one single day, I stopped loving the narcissist. My life hasn’t been the same since. It’s like a fog was lifted! 🙌🙏
Moving on is hard but staying is a slow death of your spirit. I miss my wife, the mask that was her, but I don’t miss the devaluation, theft, lies, cheating, and constant control. Take the win even if it’s painful because God is waiting. Thanks Dave, I enjoyed our talk last week and thank you for your prayers.
When I caught her with her ex she said he's just a friend, he showed up out of the blue & of course she said she would never ever be with him. Her next line was "but he can be lots of fun"...Took me awhile but I vanished & now she can triangulate elsewhere !
Understand. Mine was to leave her lover for us to have a chance to get counseling and repair. All a big game. Even while talking about counseling appointment, she wanted to tell me how happy she was with him. Sick. She still maintained a residence, wore a ring for him, took care of his dogs, and never broke it off (just in case it didn't work with us).
My narc and I went back and forth for a dizzying 8 years. I did not know what narcissism was. In hindsight, I see in the latter years I was so broken and damaged that I was unable to be happy or feel safe even when the narc was back. Haunted by traumatic memories, I started to exhibit toxic traits too. My love no longer looked like biblical love. I was the one constantly asking questions and could not trust. I was tortured from the inside out. I found if you allow this "energy vampire" to continually feed on you, you will "turn" and you will eventually lose your mind, character, humanity and virtues. I became aggressive and took record of wrongs. Not to beat the narc down but rather to keep record of the truth in an effort to defend myself against the crazy tirade of gaslighting. Im so glad to be finally off the roller coaster! Be true to yourself, dont let the narc "turn" you. Jesus will meet you at your point of need and show you your true purpose.
I'm still looking at the separated husband as if he's really a narc or has tendencies. Either way, the way he treated me and hid so much is evil along with not reciprocating any care,love towards me😔🤧 Thank you for reminding what to be aware of out here
Dave, I’m so happy for who you are. Been watching you for three years. I literally just defeated M.Bison… 😂 a guy came back into my life from childhood. A gorgeous empty meat suit, I was asking God how I was gonna get around this obstacle. He cut himself off with his egregious behavior. I hadn’t spoken to him in 16/17 years and he asked to borrow money with a made up story. Then he tried the push pull and all kinds of weird games within one month. I read him his rights (called him out verbatim) and cut him off. Praise God, he was protecting me. I know my gifts now. It’s not a precursor to work harder, it’s get the hell out of Dodge. These imposters are insane… 😂
I cut all contact with my ex close friend because she got cocky with how disrespectful she was towards me. All I asked for was at LEAST to maintain normal conversation, even once a week would be fine but she was as if compelled to not even give me that and we used to interact for 12 years even for 8 hours a day... Now she was just making unrealistic excuses and lies so she could spend all her time on fiction and interacting with her new supply... It all started when she got herself a new bf who is a huge enabler of her bad bad behavior and the 16th year she was the worst, when she got herself new supply, a girl similar to me... She thought she could just keep me in the corner with dry breadcrumbs and was even smirking when I let her know that I had a problem with us even barely talking so Id like to move on. She wasn't taking me seriously and when I cut communication temporally to deal with all this stress and depression my way, because each time she would give me some of her time, I felt more miserable... she then thought it would be a great idea to start telling people about me things that were non of her business to do so. One of my friends helped me to see her for what she really is and I saw no point in continuing this bs. Its rather ironic as I was helping her get where she is now with new friends and lots of attention and yet calls me jealous of her success and that she got better life than me... flexing much? It was just so cringe and bizarre seeing her change this much but I knew I couldn't have back the good old days, this wasn't the person I cherished all those years and I really struggled to hit that Remove Friend button, but I am glad I did this big decision to go on my own path and leave her be someone else's problem
Dave, so nice that you acknowledge Quinn, Who you shared with me, Thank You! AND Richard Grannon, who I found years before you, each of you are real men, men of God! Blessings of joy love and peace always! ~Dwd.
OMG, this is SUCH a powerful message. Your understanding of the spiritual aspect of narcissism is gold and! God bless you and please keep doing what you do.
Thank you Dave. I love that you include God in your messages. I am coming to terms with the absolute triangulation, betrayal and demonization that I am dealing with. He went from Mr. Nice Guy to Mr. Demon - Jekyll and Hyde. And it came from someone who problems I listened to and helped from the compassion of my heart. I have blocked him, gone silent and will not engage with even if hell does freeze over.
IT pays me maintenance every month from the divorce, we'll you.can imagine, he "plays" with the payments. So, last.month, I get an email from my lawyer regarding "IT" IT was in the hospital, going through "intense " medical treatment and couldn't take care of IT'S financial responsibilities until the following mont. IT was never in the hospital, I believe IT was trying desperately to get a reaction from me, I've never responded to one of IT'S many cowardly hoover. I find this so unbelievable that these empty meat suits would go to such lengths to get a reaction. 🤢🤮 Of course, I found out, "IT" was perfectly fine, no "intense " medical treatments going on! 😂😂😂😂
This is one of my favorite videos you've made. Everything I heard was everything I went through with the narcissist. From not letting me get a wink of sleep to talking 100 miles a minute nonstop about his family tree, his exes, history, and whatever else he could think of. I remember putting the phone on speaker and just going on about my business cleaning my house while he blabbered about how the yellow rose of Texas came about. Only one word can describe him, motor mouth!
I'm laughing too. He just can't stop talking and criticizing even as I keep on changing the topics! Then when I finally say something, he drives the wrong way on a one way lane, goes into traffic so slow horns blare and cars race dangerously past us, cycles cut in front and all around us. He yells at me, saying,"don't talk to me. You're causing me to drive this way!" I can't even tell him he'll be driving through a red light!
@@楊宜強 I completely understand, mine would have horrible road rage and if I gasped or made any sound out of fear, he would say I caused him to almost have an accident by making a sound
He goes crazy and insists you are the one making him that way, while you're hanging on for dear life! I tried to get out of the car, he swerved the car to the left into traffic making turns. Then he goes to prayer meetings, cell groups, etc. and talks about the members to me. Truly they are vampires as Dave said.
I am a borderline. I failed to completely surrender myself to the false self. Aka the shadow demon who offered me a deal when I was a child. I had a lot of trauma. It promised protection. It didn’t completely work. Under this shadow is a 4 year old girl. Everyone else is version of me and then the main driver is a secondary psychopath. It makes me feed it. It makes me do cruel things. It makes me harm myself and potentially others. When I split back to another state I don’t even remember much. It’s like I’m there but I’m not connected. It’s calculated and I am always gathering data but not because I want to. It’s a spiritual battle in myself. It is because of this that the real me is a dedicated Catholic. I’ve seen hell trust me I’ve been there. Heaven is real and so is purgatory. The saints exp faustina talks about narcissism. The book of proverbs tells you have to avoid them. I am a failed narcissist. I don’t want sympathy but what I live with everyday is torture. Extreme mood swings. Psychosis everyday. Like I am disappearing. I was diagnosed with DID as a child . My parents always told me I had an evil part. I don’t want to be like this. I don’t like the demon. God chose me for some reason. I don’t know why but he wants me to beat this and feel better. Although I have a very different experience I want you to pray for people with personality disorders. We are told there is no cure but Jesus can save anybody. Amen
Thank you for sharing your experience and insights. It breaks my heart to know people are being tormented. I pray for my ex from a distance. I don’t want bad things for him 😢
May God break EVERY chain on your life, and every demonic stronghold in the mighty name of Jesus, we thank Him for your insight and continued growth, and your inner peace. Amen ❤️🙏🏾
I agree 100%, Dave. Any time we settle for a narcissist, whether we know they are (but are willing to give the benefit of the doubt), or we fall for the beautiful "image" they purport to present for themselves, it's like chasing a ghost. Something that looks good momentarily, but in reality it's a phantom. Like a beautiful rainbow before and after a big storm. In speaking of that, prayers for the people in Tennessee that were affected by this weekend's storms. But I digress, I had gotten so used to feeling like I had to settle for the "mud castle on the beach with the beautiful paint job" that crumbles back to wet sand after the first big wave, because being disabled I know after all these years that I have nothing to offer. So, rather than going forward with another " crap storm" of a relationship that either ends up being abusive, or just hanging on out of convenience, I'm willing to just wait. Whether I meet someone after I make it to heaven, where I will be restored, with a new body, and renewed soul, etc, or here at the last minute of my life, I don't want to go through another of love's "bought lessons" or experiences.
@@jannlewandowski5540 I dipped my cup into the stream called love twice. I found out both times that it wasn't the beautiful, clear running stream I was told it was. For me, it was toxic and noxious. In my first relationship, after ten years of being used and abused, and made fun of, and made to feel like a prisoner for ten years, that culminated in my having my head split open by her adult criminal grandson, whom she would enable his drug and criminal lifestyle at everyone's expense. The second go-around with love was a month after I got out of the hospital recovering from the major surgery on my head, when someone from my hometown I had loved for years, but was never with, contacted and friended me after seeing some comic book sketches I drew based on her, on Facebook. That was a mistake, because I found out she was in jail. But I didn't really know her as well as I believed I did, and after I sent her over $2500, she came to visit me wearing another man's wedding ring, and within a week, blocked me from all communication, after lying to me saying she was getting off drugs, and we would be together. In the past five years, she has been rearrested as many times for manufacturing and distributing drugs and prostitution. So I'm pretty much done with it. I have our Lord God, and my model trains.
Goodness I know we all have experience Narc abuse and some of us even traumatized...but when i look at you Dave and hear about your abuse it really touches my heart ❤️...you are so sweet and gentle... I'll admit i was a bit feisty and played the back and forth revenge game with the narc which is so stupid to do...but I've learned a valuable, valuable lesson!
It is easy to fall into the trap of reactive abuse. You are tempted to abuse the abuser. I would triangulate with her to "give her a taste of her own medicine". This is one of the many reasons we must walk away, forgive ourselves, and move on.
Thanks Dave, I can fully relate to what you said about having one foot in the world and one foot with the Holy Spirit. That was me for years, fortunately the Lord Loved me enough that he chastised me hard! To get me to face and overcome my Idolatry and pride and depend on him alone. And even though the process took several years and hurt like hell now that I'm on the other end I can truly say I'm thankful for the trials and the end results.
I never really knew with the idolatry was God mentions in the Bible. Thanks for bringing that up.. I was told growing up it’s about making statues and bowing down to them..but when we let people run wild in our lives and never hold them accountable and their beliefs becomes ours that we trade in to keep them around and love them despite they are leading us astray and into the pits of hell because we love them greater than God, ourselves, or anything. We have made them a God. We are worshipping them. They love that. They are even Jealous of relationship with God! Now I get it you can’t look the other way to gain favor with someone because in real love you don’t have to sacrifice your beliefs to make it work
Thank you for your cuppa coffee and tea sessions. It is getting into me. All is getting better. He is still lurking making fake accounts in socials and watching me. I torment him/the covert narc with my public posts of being happy and carefree and getting on with ME. Smiling and achieving. Freedom! Like in Braveheart. He never ever championed me or my wins or cared. Thank you for leading the way for me to cut the cord/de-yolk from this anchor. The shackles are broken 💯
I'm struggling so much. She's faking me out saying she loves me and wants to see me again while also dating men. I need to go no contact and go to the throne. I believe only Jesus can save me now.
Man this is a great video so much knowledge,why do we bother with these people I wonder?it's like eventually though they'll just never cease causing trouble is what I've learned,and once they know you don't care anymore,it's equivalent to another narcissistic injury allover again.
When we got married he hung up this Word on the wall. Within a year he had an affair that is most likely still going on 37years later. I know he's discussing all of our issues with someone. He comes up with too many intelligent remarks and actions against me and occasionally his son even after my son very clearly set boundaries. I tell Jesus how I feel about what he does and says to me and He takes care of it for me.
Good morning Dave cheers and survivors happy Tuesday I didn't get a chance to watch last night I'm watching this morning after getting off from work 🙏🙏🙏
I’m so glad I found your videos I’m still healing from this narc I fell in love with but your videos are all I went threw with him and his mother it’s been one year no contact for me thank u
They desire to be coddled, not cuddled , coddling is to appease , cater to their desires , and to supply gratification, it's temporary , and always needs more ! Cuddling is to be embraced cradled , loved , respectful, requires virtue , commitment, loyalty , honesty , consideration , , and to see you move on means your equal , deserving , worthy , and you can't be those things because that would require them accepting they are not special , extraordinary, it would mean they are responsible for their actions , and yes it's their fault , and that's for we lesser beings , not entitled superior beings as they ! It only works if they can entrap you in their delusion , and God turned them over to it , because they chose the lie ! God Bless Dave ! Just say" no " to coddling ! Your right Dave they despise us for caring and loving them , Hate personified seeking a target !
Be honest with yourself and stop being so selfish. Pray for strength and God will change your life Honesty and Understanding that is key to Gods grace. Remember he knows you don't beat yourself if you fall short just keep practicing honesty.
I knew something was way off when my wife started acting very strange about money. we had a cash business on the side and I did 80% of all work and 95% of the physical labor. So I wanted 50/50 split...but she would go literally bonkers if I put the cash in the bank. Call me a theif!!!!...nuts..she was carrying $ 26 ,000.00 in hundreds around in her purse. So I put it into our home safe lockbox....she went nuts again...made me put it next to her side of the bed and the key next to her. When I left her I took it...had my adult boys witness me open it and slit it 50/50...she still called me a theif.
But most times they already been moved on behind your back! Already priming a new relationship so when you are done they jump straight to the next full gear!
"And we know how important triangulation is for the narcissist". Oh yeah. I can only imagine what she is saying to the new supply about me. "Michael's house is bigger than yours. Michael is so smart. Michael is so handsome. Michael is so funny." The poor guy will have to listen to this for as long as he hangs in there. And she just had his baby so she can triangulate him with the baby too. What a mess!
Wow you nailed it dude I just found ur channel spot on wth I went through smh pure devil with a cat he took when he left all he had when I met him mmhm but never took care of it I did so much more but that whew weee 💡💡💡
Hey Dave I'm seeing this from a distance her wringing out the new supply an ex friend he's withering away and I'm no contact so there's that, thanks for everything!!🎉
Drinking is demonic addiction. Till I found God of my understanding. Did I find sobriety. God already knows me. He was waiting till I hit the bottom and became honest with myself.
I wanted money but so when I LEAVE THIS WORLD MY FAMILY WILL HAVE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR NEEDS FOR THEIR FAMILY.😊BUT GOD HAVE SPOKEN THROUGH PEOPLE AND SAID HES MY PROVIDER!SO IM CHSNGED SBOUT THAT .ITS TRUE GE GAVE TAKEN GREAT CARE OF ME ALL MY LIFE!😊😊
So what if I have an ex that I left and he does apologize for things and tell me he was wrong and he works on the issues and even got into therapy but he still has anger issues occasionally and a lot of narcissistic traits, I’ve seen him getting better with therapy and he seems to care but I just can’t figure out if it’s fake or real. So I am so curious as to if he is just narcissistic or is an actual narcissist?
or... is this not moved on. is this thinking about , talking about , focusing on the nar sis ist? day after day. truly moving on is never hardly ever thinking of them. cutting the demonic sould ties with prayers. it took me so many years way back when. it was like a virus. like an infection. like a plague. horrible experience. heal and forget as diligently as possible.
Her justification for her affair was that it was God, that caused it to hapoen. She reconnected with a guy after 37 years on FB, made the plans to leave spouses for each other. All God!?! Uh huh
No, YOURE a legend. I’m asking TH-cam why they don’t pay you 20k a month stipend to help the channel, you’re literally writing books in the Bible that should have been there. I guess God underestimated the devil. He did get betrayed after all. Can’t put anything past satan ! Not even God not realizing a whole book of narcissism was left out of the scripture
@@NarcologyunscriptedI just realized at 44 after going back and forth for 3 years that my mothers definitely a covert narcissist. It’s why I have anger issues and not quite knowing why. She was self sacrificing from the beginning and even until now, but the way she replies to me is either doesn’t answer my question and intentionally provokes another question and now I’m asking too many questions and then I’m at fault for being irritated. This has happened covertly all my life. Or the silent treatment, and it includes for non conflict relatable concerns or just basic messages. That makes me wait, then concerned, then anxious, then irritated then, angry eventually. Then it becomes a trait of mine. She is self sacrificing then suddenly she’s a victim, then it’s sabotage for what she does for me, then I’m just angry. What a sick joke this has been. The more time that goes, instead of figuring out things that make my life better, I figure things out that makes my life in retrospect worse than I thought and what’s to come nothing better.
I don’t agree with what you are saying about friends sober having nothing to talk about. I also don’t agree that you can’t find a good partner in a club or bar. I like your channel you say some very accurate helpful things about narcissism but not all people that go to these places are bad. I’ve got ex’s who I’m still friends with where we’ve known each other since kids and they are good people we just didn’t compliment each other enough to make it last long term but we’re still friends and I’d say a couple are very good friends now because we’ve had an intimate relationship together and experienced some great times.
What does it mean move on? I want to stay alone. So theyysee it asxdemistroyed orcwgat. I loved him sobmich, but saw he wascfake. There ist only fakes out there, so I prefer staying single and being happy.
I had a size 13 cleeted shoe thrown in short proximity to me while sitting on the floor. Thrown so hard it literally stuck, sucked the breath out of me and I was left trying without luck to regain it, at the same time peeling the shoe off my upper thigh handing it back so he could go play baseball, which he promptly did without a care or remorse or anything else remotely. I could not sit down on that leg/butt cheek for over a month at my desk job. You could put your fingertip in the cleeted areas left in my thigh!
Maybe you can get a plastic surgery? That scar will always remember you and she will always see the power she had over you. I think, if you are able to remove it - you will show her, that you moved on
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Ya know, we have to understand its not them we miss, its the idea of what they pretend to be! We cant stand the narcissist!😂
Exactly. You miss that “Fake person” of who they “Pretended” to be. So in all actuality, the person you miss was not Real. Narcissist are soulless beings. They are not human, they just pretend to be. It is like loving a Robot.
They KNOW what a beautiful person they had, and they realize now that you're gone forever. I was so good to my guy, but when i realized what he is, i RAN...
If they truly know why do they destroy what they have? I am so hurt and confused by all of this like most of us I’m sure. I just can’t wrap my head around it and I don’t know for certain my ex is a true narc or just has some of these traits that came out after he was caught cheating. I went back and forth with him like a yo yo bc I was that in love. I finally stopped and left in September after 2 years of the triangle! I am so broken from this and not sure I’ll ever be the same again. He stopped speaking to me shortly after I left bc I started dating someone I had dated for a couple months during our early break up this year (March). But I left him to go back to my “love”. It was brutal him bringing up the new guy all the time but it seemed as if he didn’t remember him cheating and me catching him with the same person so many times. I really should have left the second I found out.
^ ten years total with him.
@@GGSmallsI was with mine for 5 years. He was very GREEDY and stuck on himself. I know how you feel, and I'm so sorry to hear that. He FUTURE FAKED me regarding marriage. He had no intentions of getting married. He never told me how much he made. He said he was saving for our wedding. That was a LIE! He used me, and it took me a long time to get over it. I did date a few years later, but I only liked the guy as a friend. Hey, we'll be fine. Just give it TIME.❤💕🫠
@GGSmalls I feel for you, honey, but these are the facts. Narcissists are Toxic people and they cannot help themselves. Keep coming back to this room. You / we will all learn together. Stick together. In TIME WE WILL BE FINE. 💕🌷😉🫠❤️
Same. Divorced. He discarded me after the abuse and hid the new supply, karmic, toxic mistress still in the shadows from me. JUDGMENT has been called and his bad karma is whopping that a@#.
My aging narrcisist doesn't know where my tree is. I pulled up roots....moved away....and changed everything.....address, email, phone number....all of it.
If she's having a tough time without me?
She asked for it.
I don't care what she's doing or who she's doing it with.
Because they know you are the kind of a person who would never leave anything that is alive behind, not a bird, not a cat, not a dog. And yet you left them. Thus, they are just dead meat, corps if you will, left for the worms to finish their job. Not an easy pill to swallow for them 😂
Exactly
Everybody has a limit.
😂 💯💯
Good point!
Great point.
I'm glad that relationship is over. He ended it and I walked away and went no contact. I'm just trying to learn as much as possible so I don't end up in that mess again.
My husband and I pastored churches for 30 years but the affairs and lies finally closed the ministry and 7 years later no contact I have finally moved on. Praying my heart will be healed completely I will never be deceived again thank you Jesus love to the States from England ❤❤
The religious narcs are some of the worst. I’ve seen a lot of them. They do so much harm to people’s faith
@@heatherwagar5868thank you ❤
There is a special place in hell for these types.
Love back at ya ! Genuienly.
You got this. The worst is over.
@@heatherwagar5868lol stop judging
Narcissists are Engines. And Engines need FUEL!!! When you shut off the Gas, they use the slow drain battery. They feed off of the small things around them. In my Case its much much worse. My Narcissist is feeding on her children. And I am trying to save my 17 year old from her. All i can do is Pray... I give it to Abba every single day. I pray for my little girl who holds on to the Bible, and to Yeshua. Four more months. And my daughter will be free.
Even a new cell phone is supply to a narc. They lose everything, in return, when they cannot complete the triangulation against you. Thank you, Dave.
I was never on a dating website and now will never be on. Ever.
An insubordinate carnal Christian is the perfect definition of what I was! Praise God that He came after me one more time! He opened my eyes and gave me the information I needed, and in that one single day, I stopped loving the narcissist. My life hasn’t been the same since. It’s like a fog was lifted! 🙌🙏
Moving on is hard but staying is a slow death of your spirit. I miss my wife, the mask that was her, but I don’t miss the devaluation, theft, lies, cheating, and constant control. Take the win even if it’s painful because God is waiting. Thanks Dave, I enjoyed our talk last week and thank you for your prayers.
When I caught her with her ex she said he's just a friend, he showed up out of the blue & of course she said she would never ever be with him. Her next line was "but he can be lots of fun"...Took me awhile but I vanished & now she can triangulate elsewhere !
Understand. Mine was to leave her lover for us to have a chance to get counseling and repair. All a big game. Even while talking about counseling appointment, she wanted to tell me how happy she was with him. Sick. She still maintained a residence, wore a ring for him, took care of his dogs, and never broke it off (just in case it didn't work with us).
My narc and I went back and forth for a dizzying 8 years. I did not know what narcissism was. In hindsight, I see in the latter years I was so broken and damaged that I was unable to be happy or feel safe even when the narc was back. Haunted by traumatic memories, I started to exhibit toxic traits too. My love no longer looked like biblical love. I was the one constantly asking questions and could not trust. I was tortured from the inside out. I found if you allow this "energy vampire" to continually feed on you, you will "turn" and you will eventually lose your mind, character, humanity and virtues. I became aggressive and took record of wrongs. Not to beat the narc down but rather to keep record of the truth in an effort to defend myself against the crazy tirade of gaslighting. Im so glad to be finally off the roller coaster! Be true to yourself, dont let the narc "turn" you. Jesus will meet you at your point of need and show you your true purpose.
Thank you for your wonderful words
I'm still looking at the separated husband as if he's really a narc or has tendencies. Either way, the way he treated me and hid so much is evil along with not reciprocating any care,love towards me😔🤧 Thank you for reminding what to be aware of out here
3 minutes in and already a wealth of information!
Dave, I’m so happy for who you are. Been watching you for three years. I literally just defeated M.Bison… 😂 a guy came back into my life from childhood. A gorgeous empty meat suit, I was asking God how I was gonna get around this obstacle. He cut himself off with his egregious behavior. I hadn’t spoken to him in 16/17 years and he asked to borrow money with a made up story. Then he tried the push pull and all kinds of weird games within one month. I read him his rights (called him out verbatim) and cut him off. Praise God, he was protecting me. I know my gifts now. It’s not a precursor to work harder, it’s get the hell out of Dodge. These imposters are insane… 😂
I cut all contact with my ex close friend because she got cocky with how disrespectful she was towards me.
All I asked for was at LEAST to maintain normal conversation, even once a week would be fine but she was as if compelled to not even give me that and we used to interact for 12 years even for 8 hours a day...
Now she was just making unrealistic excuses and lies so she could spend all her time on fiction and interacting with her new supply...
It all started when she got herself a new bf who is a huge enabler of her bad bad behavior and the 16th year she was the worst, when she got herself new supply, a girl similar to me...
She thought she could just keep me in the corner with dry breadcrumbs and was even smirking when I let her know that I had a problem with us even barely talking so Id like to move on.
She wasn't taking me seriously and when I cut communication temporally to deal with all this stress and depression my way, because each time she would give me some of her time, I felt more miserable... she then thought it would be a great idea to start telling people about me things that were non of her business to do so. One of my friends helped me to see her for what she really is and I saw no point in continuing this bs.
Its rather ironic as I was helping her get where she is now with new friends and lots of attention and yet calls me jealous of her success and that she got better life than me... flexing much?
It was just so cringe and bizarre seeing her change this much but I knew I couldn't have back the good old days, this wasn't the person I cherished all those years and I really struggled to hit that Remove Friend button, but I am glad I did this big decision to go on my own path and leave her be someone else's problem
Dave, so nice that you acknowledge Quinn, Who you shared with me, Thank You! AND Richard Grannon, who I found years before you, each of you are real men, men of God! Blessings of joy love and peace always!
~Dwd.
Quinn is super underrated ❤
Yes invite the Holy Spirit into you and you’ll see the devil so clearly
OMG, this is SUCH a powerful message. Your understanding of the spiritual aspect of narcissism is gold and! God bless you and please keep doing what you do.
Love the grandpa statement I'm a grandma at 52 and that is so true you crack me up I love your sense of humor
He is so right from every ounce of wisdom that comes from his mouth.
Dave nails it again! 🤟
Thank you Dave. I love that you include God in your messages. I am coming to terms with the absolute triangulation, betrayal and demonization that I am dealing with. He went from Mr. Nice Guy to Mr. Demon - Jekyll and Hyde. And it came from someone who problems I listened to and helped from the compassion of my heart. I have blocked him, gone silent and will not engage with even if hell does freeze over.
IT pays me maintenance every month from the divorce, we'll you.can imagine, he "plays" with the payments.
So, last.month, I get an email from my lawyer regarding "IT" IT was in the hospital, going through "intense " medical treatment and couldn't take care of IT'S financial responsibilities until the following mont.
IT was never in the hospital, I believe IT was trying desperately to get a reaction from me, I've never responded to one of IT'S many cowardly hoover.
I find this so unbelievable that these empty meat suits would go to such lengths to get a reaction. 🤢🤮
Of course, I found out, "IT" was perfectly fine, no "intense " medical treatments going on! 😂😂😂😂
This is one of my favorite videos you've made. Everything I heard was everything I went through with the narcissist. From not letting me get a wink of sleep to talking 100 miles a minute nonstop about his family tree, his exes, history, and whatever else he could think of. I remember putting the phone on speaker and just going on about my business cleaning my house while he blabbered about how the yellow rose of Texas came about. Only one word can describe him, motor mouth!
They talk at you. Your comment made me 😂😂😂😂😂 just picturing this scenario
@@heatherwagar5868 glad I could make you laugh 😂
I'm laughing too. He just can't stop talking and criticizing even as I keep on changing the topics! Then when I finally say something, he drives the wrong way on a one way lane, goes into traffic so slow horns blare and cars race dangerously past us, cycles cut in front and all around us. He yells at me, saying,"don't talk to me. You're causing me to drive this way!" I can't even tell him he'll be driving through a red light!
@@楊宜強 I completely understand, mine would have horrible road rage and if I gasped or made any sound out of fear, he would say I caused him to almost have an accident by making a sound
He goes crazy and insists you are the one making him that way, while you're hanging on for dear life! I tried to get out of the car, he swerved the car to the left into traffic making turns. Then he goes to prayer meetings, cell groups, etc. and talks about the members to me. Truly they are vampires as Dave said.
I am a borderline. I failed to completely surrender myself to the false self. Aka the shadow demon who offered me a deal when I was a child. I had a lot of trauma. It promised protection. It didn’t completely work. Under this shadow is a 4 year old girl. Everyone else is version of me and then the main driver is a secondary psychopath. It makes me feed it. It makes me do cruel things. It makes me harm myself and potentially others. When I split back to another state I don’t even remember much. It’s like I’m there but I’m not connected. It’s calculated and I am always gathering data but not because I want to. It’s a spiritual battle in myself. It is because of this that the real me is a dedicated Catholic. I’ve seen hell trust me I’ve been there. Heaven is real and so is purgatory. The saints exp faustina talks about narcissism. The book of proverbs tells you have to avoid them.
I am a failed narcissist. I don’t want sympathy but what I live with everyday is torture. Extreme mood swings. Psychosis everyday. Like I am disappearing. I was diagnosed with DID as a child . My parents always told me I had an evil part. I don’t want to be like this. I don’t like the demon. God chose me for some reason.
I don’t know why but he wants me to beat this and feel better.
Although I have a very different experience I want you to pray for people with personality disorders. We are told there is no cure but Jesus can save anybody.
Amen
Thank you for sharing your experience and insights. It breaks my heart to know people are being tormented. I pray for my ex from a distance. I don’t want bad things for him 😢
May God break EVERY chain on your life, and every demonic stronghold in the mighty name of Jesus, we thank Him for your insight and continued growth, and your inner peace. Amen ❤️🙏🏾
I agree 100%, Dave. Any time we settle for a narcissist, whether we know they are (but are willing to give the benefit of the doubt), or we fall for the beautiful "image" they purport to present for themselves, it's like chasing a ghost. Something that looks good momentarily, but in reality it's a phantom. Like a beautiful rainbow before and after a big storm.
In speaking of that, prayers for the people in Tennessee that were affected by this weekend's storms.
But I digress, I had gotten so used to feeling like I had to settle for the "mud castle on the beach with the beautiful paint job" that crumbles back to wet sand after the first big wave, because being disabled I know after all these years that I have nothing to offer.
So, rather than going forward with another " crap storm" of a relationship that either ends up being abusive, or just hanging on out of convenience, I'm willing to just wait.
Whether I meet someone after I make it to heaven, where I will be restored, with a new body, and renewed soul, etc, or here at the last minute of my life, I don't want to go through another of love's "bought lessons" or experiences.
Michael, I'd rather be alone than go thru that again!
@@jannlewandowski5540 I dipped my cup into the stream called love twice. I found out both times that it wasn't the beautiful, clear running stream I was told it was. For me, it was toxic and noxious.
In my first relationship, after ten years of being used and abused, and made fun of, and made to feel like a prisoner for ten years, that culminated in my having my head split open by her adult criminal grandson, whom she would enable his drug and criminal lifestyle at everyone's expense.
The second go-around with love was a month after I got out of the hospital recovering from the major surgery on my head, when someone from my hometown I had loved for years, but was never with, contacted and friended me after seeing some comic book sketches I drew based on her, on Facebook.
That was a mistake, because I found out she was in jail. But I didn't really know her as well as I believed I did, and after I sent her over $2500, she came to visit me wearing another man's wedding ring, and within a week, blocked me from all communication, after lying to me saying she was getting off drugs, and we would be together.
In the past five years, she has been rearrested as many times for manufacturing and distributing drugs and prostitution. So I'm pretty much done with it.
I have our Lord God, and my model trains.
I sooooo “get this” I pray the name of Jesus over your life and healing from the pain and for a renewed soul. 🙏🏼
Beautifully said
Goodness I know we all have experience Narc abuse and some of us even traumatized...but when i look at you Dave and hear about your abuse it really touches my heart ❤️...you are so sweet and gentle... I'll admit i was a bit feisty and played the back and forth revenge game with the narc which is so stupid to do...but I've learned a valuable, valuable lesson!
It is easy to fall into the trap of reactive abuse. You are tempted to abuse the abuser. I would triangulate with her to "give her a taste of her own medicine". This is one of the many reasons we must walk away, forgive ourselves, and move on.
@@mickcrovo5238 yes..I agree with you so true!
Thanks Dave, I can fully relate to what you said about having one foot in the world and one foot with the Holy Spirit. That was me for years, fortunately the Lord Loved me enough that he chastised me hard! To get me to face and overcome my Idolatry and pride and depend on him alone. And even though the process took several years and hurt like hell now that I'm on the other end I can truly say I'm thankful for the trials and the end results.
I never really knew with the idolatry was God mentions in the Bible. Thanks for bringing that up.. I was told growing up it’s about making statues and bowing down to them..but when we let people run wild in our lives and never hold them accountable and their beliefs becomes ours that we trade in to keep them around and love them despite they are leading us astray and into the pits of hell because we love them greater than God, ourselves, or anything. We have made them a God. We are worshipping them. They love that. They are even Jealous of relationship with God! Now I get it you can’t look the other way to gain favor with someone because in real love you don’t have to sacrifice your beliefs to make it work
Thank you for your cuppa coffee and tea sessions. It is getting into me. All is getting better. He is still lurking making fake accounts in socials and watching me. I torment him/the covert narc with my public posts of being happy and carefree and getting on with ME. Smiling and achieving. Freedom! Like in Braveheart. He never ever championed me or my wins or cared. Thank you for leading the way for me to cut the cord/de-yolk from this anchor. The shackles are broken 💯
I'm struggling so much. She's faking me out saying she loves me and wants to see me again while also dating men. I need to go no contact and go to the throne. I believe only Jesus can save me now.
January 1st will be 5 years no contact, Thank goodness & if I can do it, you can too.
Thank you, SOOO much. I SOOO needec to hear this today especially about God helping and how ALL THINGS ARE PISSIBLE WITH GOD!!! ❤
Kamikaze's on their mission........Nothing More.
I can see a narcissist a mile away. One thing for sure I learned what a narcissist is a empty shell looking to be filled..
thank you
Man this is a great video so much knowledge,why do we bother with these people I wonder?it's like eventually though they'll just never cease causing trouble is what I've learned,and once they know you don't care anymore,it's equivalent to another narcissistic injury allover again.
I'm going to put some green-ness over the red flags. Its Christmassy.....lol. Thanks for all your videos, Dave. They help me every day.
My narc ex would retire that verse all the time, love is patience love is kind... yet was treating me like shit behind closed doors. They're so fake 😅
When we got married he hung up this Word on the wall. Within a year he had an affair that is most likely still going on 37years later. I know he's discussing all of our issues with someone. He comes up with too many intelligent remarks and actions against me and occasionally his son even after my son very clearly set boundaries. I tell Jesus how I feel about what he does and says to me and He takes care of it for me.
about what he says and does
Good morning Dave cheers and survivors happy Tuesday I didn't get a chance to watch last night I'm watching this morning after getting off from work 🙏🙏🙏
I’m so glad I found your videos I’m still healing from this narc I fell in love with but your videos are all I went threw with him and his mother it’s been one year no contact for me thank u
He said it is all my fault, if i was with other person, he did not say that.
They desire to be coddled, not cuddled , coddling is to appease , cater to their desires , and to supply gratification, it's temporary , and always needs more ! Cuddling is to be embraced cradled , loved , respectful, requires virtue , commitment, loyalty , honesty , consideration , , and to see you move on means your equal , deserving , worthy , and you can't be those things because that would require them accepting they are not special , extraordinary, it would mean they are responsible for their actions , and yes it's their fault , and that's for we lesser beings , not entitled superior beings as they ! It only works if they can entrap you in their delusion , and God turned them over to it , because they chose the lie ! God Bless Dave ! Just say" no " to coddling ! Your right Dave they despise us for caring and loving them , Hate personified seeking a target !
Trying hard to stay away. Ive been here before and fall for it time and time again.
Thank You Dave…..
This! This one goes down as one of my very favorites - you really hit the nail on the head about what happens when Mrs. B’s stay stuck. Ty !!
This was so good. Your insights are exactly what I was seeing. 👍
Great Pour Dave
Thanks for sharing 🙏❤👍
Thank you again !
! God bless you❤🙏
Great explanation! How satan wants needs. Only wants needs. Thats something to remember! So everytime you are faced w one!!!!
Wow. Thanks
Be honest with yourself and stop being so selfish. Pray for strength and God will change your life Honesty and Understanding that is key to Gods grace. Remember he knows you don't beat yourself if you fall short just keep practicing honesty.
Such a helpful video.
I knew something was way off when my wife started acting very strange about money. we had a cash business on the side and I did 80% of all work and 95% of the physical labor. So I wanted 50/50 split...but she would go literally bonkers if I put the cash in the bank. Call me a theif!!!!...nuts..she was carrying $ 26 ,000.00 in hundreds around in her purse. So I put it into our home safe lockbox....she went nuts again...made me put it next to her side of the bed and the key next to her. When I left her I took it...had my adult boys witness me open it and slit it 50/50...she still called me a theif.
Amen!!!!
But most times they already been moved on behind your back! Already priming a new relationship so when you are done they jump straight to the next full gear!
"And we know how important triangulation is for the narcissist". Oh yeah. I can only imagine what she is saying to the new supply about me. "Michael's house is bigger than yours. Michael is so smart. Michael is so handsome. Michael is so funny." The poor guy will have to listen to this for as long as he hangs in there. And she just had his baby so she can triangulate him with the baby too. What a mess!
Just love the intros😂so good cheers
I appreciate all you do ❤
Empty Meatsuits!!! Hahhhashhja. I love you!
Wow you nailed it dude I just found ur channel spot on wth I went through smh pure devil with a cat he took when he left all he had when I met him mmhm but never took care of it I did so much more but that whew weee 💡💡💡
Oh ya, I found out when the narcissists mother insisted he stop drinking.
Who is this person?
I’m an atheist but everything you say rings true.
@14:45-16:00 my favorite part
Amen 🙏
Hey Dave I'm seeing this from a distance her wringing out the new supply an ex friend he's withering away and I'm no contact so there's that, thanks for everything!!🎉
Drinking is demonic addiction. Till I found God of my understanding. Did I find sobriety. God already knows me. He was waiting till I hit the bottom and became honest with myself.
I wanted money but so when I LEAVE THIS WORLD MY FAMILY WILL HAVE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR NEEDS FOR THEIR FAMILY.😊BUT GOD HAVE SPOKEN THROUGH PEOPLE AND SAID HES MY PROVIDER!SO IM CHSNGED SBOUT THAT .ITS TRUE GE GAVE TAKEN GREAT CARE OF ME ALL MY LIFE!😊😊
So what if I have an ex that I left and he does apologize for things and tell me he was wrong and he works on the issues and even got into therapy but he still has anger issues occasionally and a lot of narcissistic traits, I’ve seen him getting better with therapy and he seems to care but I just can’t figure out if it’s fake or real. So I am so curious as to if he is just narcissistic or is an actual narcissist?
Hello,
Who does your hair?
or... is this not moved on. is this thinking about , talking about , focusing on the nar sis ist? day after day. truly moving on is never hardly ever thinking of them. cutting the demonic sould ties with prayers. it took me so many years way back when. it was like a virus. like an infection. like a plague. horrible experience. heal and forget as diligently as possible.
Her justification for her affair was that it was God, that caused it to hapoen. She reconnected with a guy after 37 years on FB, made the plans to leave spouses for each other. All God!?! Uh huh
No, YOURE a legend. I’m asking TH-cam why they don’t pay you 20k a month stipend to help the channel, you’re literally writing books in the Bible that should have been there. I guess God underestimated the devil. He did get betrayed after all. Can’t put anything past satan ! Not even God not realizing a whole book of narcissism was left out of the scripture
God knew all along but had to fulfill the scriptures. It's a blueprint for us, He has told me that many times.
@@NarcologyunscriptedI just realized at 44 after going back and forth for 3 years that my mothers definitely a covert narcissist. It’s why I have anger issues and not quite knowing why. She was self sacrificing from the beginning and even until now, but the way she replies to me is either doesn’t answer my question and intentionally provokes another question and now I’m asking too many questions and then I’m at fault for being irritated. This has happened covertly all my life. Or the silent treatment, and it includes for non conflict relatable concerns or just basic messages. That makes me wait, then concerned, then anxious, then irritated then, angry eventually. Then it becomes a trait of mine. She is self sacrificing then suddenly she’s a victim, then it’s sabotage for what she does for me, then I’m just angry. What a sick joke this has been.
The more time that goes, instead of figuring out things that make my life better, I figure things out that makes my life in retrospect worse than I thought and what’s to come nothing better.
The betral yes it hurts but the devil is real I’m a empath he new it he had to gtfo yup 💡💡💡
The lifer mrs b is the emotions punching bag to regulate there emotions the narc doesn’t feel good anymore and neither does mrs b
I don’t agree with what you are saying about friends sober having nothing to talk about. I also don’t agree that you can’t find a good partner in a club or bar. I like your channel you say some very accurate helpful things about narcissism but not all people that go to these places are bad. I’ve got ex’s who I’m still friends with where we’ve known each other since kids and they are good people we just didn’t compliment each other enough to make it last long term but we’re still friends and I’d say a couple are very good friends now because we’ve had an intimate relationship together and experienced some great times.
What does it mean move on? I want to stay alone. So theyysee it asxdemistroyed orcwgat. I loved him sobmich, but saw he wascfake. There ist only fakes out there, so I prefer staying single and being happy.
I've got a scar on my nose from a TV remote thrown by a passive-aggressive little princess. Pretty little thing....mad as fuxk tho.
I had a size 13 cleeted shoe thrown in short proximity to me while sitting on the floor. Thrown so hard it literally stuck, sucked the breath out of me and I was left trying without luck to regain it, at the same time peeling the shoe off my upper thigh handing it back so he could go play baseball, which he promptly did without a care or remorse or anything else remotely. I could not sit down on that leg/butt cheek for over a month at my desk job. You could put your fingertip in the cleeted areas left in my thigh!
Maybe you can get a plastic surgery? That scar will always remember you and she will always see the power she had over you. I think, if you are able to remove it - you will show her, that you moved on
I love this video. It’s so true and reminds me that I have to put both feet in! 🫤
Omg just email u about this
This is one of your best! Thank you so much! It helps me in so many ways ❤🩹
Thank you
Amen ❤