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When an instrument makes a sound, it doesn't create a "pure" sound wave. Instead, it makes the fundamental sound wave, which defines the pitch of the note, plus a bunch of higher frequencies which add to the "texture" or timbre of an instrument's sound. These texture-adding frequencies are the harmonics, and they're usually proportional in some way to the fundamental frequency, kinda like a "natural chord" which defines the way how an instrument sounds. When it comes to lossy compression, some algorithms decide which harmonics of which instruments are fine to remove without making any difference in terms of psychoacoustics. mp3 is a special codec because part of its compression algorithm is brute forcing this process and just removing anything above ~17khz. Generally, the instruments that suffer from this type of compression are the instruments that are mostly harmonics with weak fundamentals, like hi-hat cymbals.
What, I feel, the harmonic compensation does is attempt to restore these harmonics that were eliminated in the lossy file compression process.
Do you also speak in reverse?
Dude, this explains a lot thanks
Thank you! This is a very interesting read. Can you provide additional sources/links for furthering this topic?
Awesome
@@thenightsong
The phenomena is known as Auditory Masking if you want to look up some further reading.
You review a thing before it releases, and then boom, at least 30% increase in the MSRP. Stop that.
The little pocket on jeans was made for a pocket watch.
WHAT??? I'm going to need you to prove that
Or condoms or key fobs
I use it to hold my mini Altoids box.
@@tyler6859 "The watch pocket was a feature of our first waist overalls," Tracey Panek, the in-house historian at Levi Strauss & Co., told INSIDER in an email. "The oldest pair of waist overalls in the Levi Strauss & Co. Archives [from 1879] includes the watch pocket."
Hindsight Reflections I have one of those pockets on old jeans made for a cellphone. About ten years ago when they were smaller.
Aaaand they're sold out.... In 5 hours.
Could be wrong... but I think it just hasn't been released yet. He just linked the page where they will be sold eventually.
@@asgiov god I hope you're right. But I'm sure when they restock, we'll see the sell out real quick.
There were 5 available when he posted the video. I went back the next day and all gone, DAMNIT!
LDAC uses different bit rate depending on connection quality and bit rate changed automatically depending on connection quality. To fixed a bit rate for LDAC it is required to change the setting, which is available in developer options in the settings menu of Android device and also user need to find the developer options in the settings menu to know wheater that device support LDAC or not.
The pocket was originally used for a pocket watch back in the 1800's until they heard the Fiio BTR5 was being released.
Everyone knows it was made for the iPod Nano.. until now!
Chinese are killing it with affordable audio devices. I am literally enjoying music more now because i can buy these from aliexpress and still have my kidneys intact
Yeah people always are so weird about China but they don't realize almost everything in their lives were luxury items that they couldn't afford before China began making them.
Huge flat screen TVs used to cost literally 10-20000 dollars and now they cost like 500.
Chinese hifi seem to also be increasing thr variety and overall quality of sound equipment too.
After I bought this my HD800S could leave my house since this BTR5 illegally sounds, if I'm honest, nearly indistinguishable from the official 2000 dollar dac amp combo from sennheiser made exclusively for the 800S. It hurts me to say that.
Even the HD8XX, I can just go into the app and add 8 db to the 2000hz and alleviate most of the "issues" with it.
This device probably makes most other competitors cry and rage. Haha
I believe it! I was about to ditch my BTR5 for another portable but decided to grab a balanced cable instead. I was blown away! The sound the BTR5 creates from balanced output is more of an experience than sound. 😊
It's really nice that the LG phones with Sabre quad DAC have 75 levels of volume with proper acceleration when holding down the button. They also sound great in case they haven't been reviewed here.
I have the Btr3. Gonna get the 5. My ear studio..I hardly use at all anymore. Love it just too much work
Huh?
When the review starts with "FUCK!" you know you are watching Z Reviews. :-)
That little pocket is for pocket watches, before time pieces were small enough to fit on your wrist.
Bought one of these to replace my btr3. Oh my god it’s such a worthy upgrade. It’s incredible!
@Gamal Ramadan they can't really transmit lossless codec but ldac is close enough. the issue is usually noise floor which is actually hard to detect (at least for me) unless you measure it.
I was watching the review of the M15 that comes after this, and I heard the re-review of this being the best and previous to the M15 and being so cheap, and it perfectly fits the application I have in mind for it. I literally just bought it without thinking of a reason not to.
I'm a truck driver and I often run an aux cable from my phone or an old FiiO M3K to drive the stereo. I prefer the UI from the phone, but not having that connected to the head unit physically, but I also don't want to pair my phone to the radio because the radio itself is garbage. (It restarts randomly every few hours, which would kill the Bluetooth connection and it won't pair again unless I fiddle with a bunch of shit and I don't want to do that in an 80,000 truck on the freeway.)
This allows me to have the great sound quality (or at least the best I'll get out of the speakers on the truck radio), while having the selected application and UI that I choose. Not having the phone be physically tethered to device in the dashboard, or having janky bluetooth. And all at a decent price. 😁👍
This should fit my needs very well.
Hey dude really love your reviews, but could you swing the camera around less - I get so dizzy half way. I get how it’s for a 1st person effect of narration though. Anywho, that’s all. Happy thanks giving thanks for all the info.
Was looking for a DAC/AMP for the office. This is even better. Commuting, walking my dog, and the office. Hell yeah
Appreciate the reviews Z. I just ordered a BTR5 and some MoonDrop Starfields. This will be my first portable DAC, and my first new headphones in 10 years. Incredibly my Shure SCL4s have lasted forever. Cant wait to have good audio again. Cheers.
I've been owning this fro a one week, and can confirm it's an great device for the money. Also I'd like to mention a few points regarding the USB-DAC mode.
Have tried it in both Mac OS and Ubuntu 19.10. On Mac it works perfectly and starts playing as soon as you plug the device into my MacBook usb port. Meanwhile there is an issue in Ubuntu. The OS recognizes the BTR5, but it seems that the BTR5 does not understand that it's connected via USB and still searching for available bluetooth device to pair with. A few plug in - plug out help in this case and suddenly the BTR5 starts playing the stream from Ubuntu ) Hopefully, guys from Fiio will fix it someday )
Thanks for that information, I'm using Linux too and plan to get this device (mostly for my phone because I already have a DAC for my PC, but who knows).
I'VE BEEN USING THE BTR3 FOR OVER A YEAR, I CAN'T WAIT TO BUY THIS!!
me too but i have the btr1k, would sell my earstudio es100 when i get the btr5 unless they fix the firmwares
Do you guys use them as usb dac on a daily basis?
@@agoogleuser9025 i have not used this as of yet because i haven't purchased it, but soon. at the moment, i use the soundblaster e5 for my pc and headphones at home. what are you trying to use it for as a dac?
@@dj516nadz I meant also for your btr1k!
I'm planning to use the btr5 as an all-around solution for both on-the-go and as a daily desktop usb dac for my current takstar pro 82 and perhaps future open-backs like 58x.
@@agoogleuser9025 welp, yes I use my BTR3 as a USB dac on my laptop, got no problems whatsoever, it's just not cool that the BTR3 only goes up to 48khz and 24 bit, but the btr5 completely trash it because on USB dac mode it can go up to 384khz and 32bit audio
31:22 - "Nothing I plug into this sounds underpowered, or poor, or doesn't have the right soundstage."
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You've sold me on it. I'm definitely going to give it a shot with my HD600s (via iPhone ACC bluetooth) and look forward to hearing the results for myself.
The hd600 sounds awesome with this indeed. So does my er4xr. Very detailed and transparent.
UselessHanzo Nice!
holycrap was looking at your review of the m11 pro, then i saw this and your happy sounds about it :D. This ES9218P chip is in my Lg v30, you saved me allot of money.
Btw i to love the sound of it ;). Thanks man.
Yeah but this has 2 of them xD
@@ishanjoshi5957 😄 indeed my man, i now got a fiio m11 and love it.
It was for a pocket watch
man rewatching this makes me think about the past haha, the old apartment issa vibe❤
you know its good when zeos starts a review with "...F***!*
also btw with your question about harmonic:
Harmonics are the frequencies that appear above (higher than) the fundamental frequency of a waveform. This might not make sense so let me try to break it down.
Every noise you hear is made up of and can be broken down into a whole bunch of sine waves at different volumes and different frequencies. These are organised into harmonics (and a few other terms that i am not 100 percent familiar with).
The first harmonic is also known as the fundamental and our brain interprets that as the pitch of the sound.
The second harmonic appears in an interval that is twice the value of the first frequency. E.g. If you take a 10hz frequency that has a second harmonic, the second harmonic will be 20hz (and at a lower volume).
The third harmonic would appear at 1.5 times the value of the first frequency and fourth at 1.25 times (every subsequent harmonic appears in that pattern.)
In regards to distortion, when you crank up distortion on a sine wave it increases the volume of the harmonics until the point where you end up with a square wave.
I hope that provides you with enough information if you have any questions please ask.
New sub here, watched a bunch of your reviews and now im in complete bliss with my tin t2's and fiio btr5. Now I just really want to get my home pc setup with a solid dac/amp/headphone combo for music/movies/games
Hey Z, I just received my Vokyl Erupts, and I am super unimpressed with the sound quality, it’s almost like everything above 1khz is just gone, if you want I can send you a production version to compare with the preproduction versions you got
I will have a listen soon enough. make damn sure if you are using a 3.5mm adapter it fits that 4-pole wire right. It was an issue at Rmaf
it's most likely due to the lack of dekoni pads. that was a last minute change last i heard
Had mine since Christmas 2020, I ADORE it, it makes every pair of phones I have shine, and I have plenty of headroom to get bigger phones in the future. Great review!
I bought this device recently. It's slick and sounds great, but the BT reception is very weak; in LDAC mode I pretty much have to keep the phone within a meter or two, even walking around in my living room will make it stutter (and somehow not autoswitch to other codecs, maybe I need to enable that somewhere?). Also the battery life when running it in balanced mode, LDAC and 1:1 clock is absolutely abysmal. I think I got barely 3 hours out of it that way, on low-gain IEMs. It does work great as a dongle and even sounds a notch better still that way, I suppose that's how I'll have to use it if I want to listen full quality for more than an hour or two. Something to be aware of depending on your needs. I'm glad I got the leather case with it because it is indeed a crazy fingerprint magnet and the case is excellent.
Random tip for those wanting more EQ options: Neutron player as well as others can have your phone do all the parametric EQ'ing you want and spare the already short batterylife of the BTR5.
Why is it that the most impressive part of this video is when he played the Youngbloods ?
Even I'm barely old enough to remember those guys
I was so engrossed by this video, then I saw it was 40 minutes and was genuinely stoked. Great video! Just scored a subscriber.
Got the BTR5 2021 via Amazon an hour ago. I paired it wirelessly with my IBasso DX170 and I am using wired (balanced) Fiio FD5. I am SHOCKED how good it sounds, how much floor end and range it has for BT. EXTREMELY impressed, I'm keeping this it's a no brainer.
The small pocket on jeans is for drugs 👍
How does this compare to the Shanling UP2 and UP4
Hello! I understand little English. Which is better between EarStudio ES100 and FiiO Btr5? I already have ES100: is it worth switching to Fiio Btr5?
The ES100 app has pictures for the weird filters too, just press the question mark (16:00).
I use AptX HD on purpose. Because it's more reliable than LDAC for any distance, and it has plenty enough bandwidth.
I need to try that on my BTR3. It's always on LDAC but it's annoying if I leave my phone and walk only few meters away to have the signal drop. Thanks!
I maybe 10 months late, but this is the best purchase I've made in my audio journey yet.
This thing drives my Old Philips Neodymium driver like a beast
Dongles and mini DAC/amps are getting so good! I got a Zorloo Ztella (MQA Version) and it competently drives my Beyerdynamic DT 1990 Pro. But for balanced headphones and IEMs I'm definitely getting this BTR5. Dual ES9281P chips (LG G6-G8X and V30-50 use just one), dual crystal oscillators with FPGA management and LDAC for a little over €100. No brainer!
Holy shit man, I was expecting your review. Just bought one. Thanks!!
darkzomspam is it worth it? Ian thinking of buying it.
@@hmm2928 absolutely, I was in need of a portable dac/amp and this is exactly what I expected. You will not regret it.
@@darkzomspam thanks
How about the filter ?...Does the filter works ??
How is it possible that this BTR5 can power the HD600 (300 ohms?!) ? Does it mean that the BTR5 would be a good choice for the HD660S ?
the 660s is easier to drive then hd600 so yes.
it's still selling like hotcakes even now holy shit. I've seen like 5 units sold in a day at a same store and I barely got a chance to bought one last second, and it's their last stock. holy damn I hope this thing sounds like the hype. I'll get to use one in maybe two days hopefully.
Edit: Got one, and first impression is awful. Starfields on stock 3.5mm cable turned into a muddy, sibilant, V-shaped disaster. Decided to bought a TRN T2 2.5mm balanced cable so I can actually use the BTR5 to it's fullest potential, and by god it does sound way better with the balanced jack. Those starfields now has bigger soundstage and details, with almost all negatives from stock cable removed. So yeah, if you own a nice IEM with a stock 3.5mm unbal jack, you might want to buy a balanced cable with the BTR5 at the same time.
Do you think the btr5 makes the starfield sound blunted/less dynamic? I saw another review that said that it blunts the sound
@@jasonbhatnagar7134 well, most reviews use stock equipments so that they can reproduce best to what their viewer/readers own. I personally find the stock 3.5mm cable horrible, but things improve with a cheap balanced cable upgrade.
Goddamn it zeos, the btr3 just arrived here
Kaung San me too man, me too
Don't blame him, blame yourself for not doing research of upcoming next gen product before buying.
@@gigihanmandarin well said
@@gigihanmandarin Relax they're joking.
Tysun Yihan r/woooosh
Dude,...started listening to your channel ( watching) and i'm kinda hooked . Even when i'm gaming im listening in the background. I like how you just say it the way it is without filters. i;m looking for a bookshelf/ headphone amp with optical line in and bt ...after watching your channel i'm lost ....fuuuccckkkkkk lol. loving it man keep up the good work
Thanks for your review of the BTR5. Just managed get one in the uk via Amazon and it’s dope! Keep up the good work.
in term of sound quality, how this btr5 compared to ifi hip dac? cant choose between those two
Please let me know you have been able to come to a conclusion.
The song at 23:10 is called Imaginary friend by Mø
Zeos, AAC codec is even better than Aptx on some phones if properly implemented. Do not confuse AAC with SBC codec in 2019....
Yeah, AAC (MP4 Audio, the successor to the MP3) was designed primarily for quality/size, not for wireless transmission from low-CPU devices, so it's better than any BT codec running at the same bitrate and also better than other codecs running at even higher bitrates (runs at 250kbps, beats LDAC at its low setting of 330, beats aptX at 354). Only competition I've heard about so far for quality/size is Opus, but that one is barely used on computers, let alone via BT (so far).
@@d0nj03 how do i know in android which LDAC setting im using
@@arc11honist Developer settings, about halfway down the list. By default it's set to "Best Effort", so it switches itself between 330, 660 and 990 kbps depending on signal strength. You can force it to a single one of those, but at the higher values it will be more likely to stutter if you get farther away or have too much wireless interference. And after you disconnect the BT receiver it will forget your manual setting and go back to Best Effort, unless in this case the FiiO app helps it remember(?).
@@d0nj03 maybe on an iPhone but not an Android device
@@Dan-km1zs Maybe what on an iPhone? This is all based on my experience with Android Oreo. Never used an iPhone and never will.
If you mean the settings loss, maybe they've fixed it in Pie, but Oreo definitely forgets your manual LDAC settings.
Well I have the btr 3 and decided to get the 5. Can't wait to hear it. I have the 3 in my car as well and it's absolutely stellar. I guess we will see what the fuss is about 😊😊
i got the btr5 for a few weeks now and imo its pretty awesome. its powerfull enough for everything and sounds better than the btr3 which i had been using for a few months. i would even say it sounds as clean as the thx aaa 789 using the dragonfly cobalt as a dac. i got the official leather case too which is nice but i do wish it had an option for a neck cord like the btr3.
IMO It's not as clean as my THX 789 but it sure is close! This is def a must-buy for anyone that already owns a THX 789. I would even recommend this over the THX 789 to be completely honest because it's so versatile in comparison.
Just go mine today, and I have the lg v50 with a built in dac
and this little thing blows it out of the water.
Thank you for the recommendation Zeos!
wait. you said the m11 and m11 pro sounds as good as the FiiO q5s, right? so this means you're saying the BTR5 sounds better than the FiiO q5s?
can it power the HiFiMAN Arya?
I just got mine and love it too! I like the clip being removable. Makes it more versatile but I like the headphone jack on top because I clip it to my collar with a short wire.
Michael Berlinger. What short wire do you suggest? I am looking for a 2.5 mm MMCX type.
@@rframo I have one by Hiby (3.5mm / 0.78mm 2pin) but they make them with other connectors. Fiio makes one with MMCX connections as well. AliExpress is probably the best bet to find them.
17:05 I'm not an audio engineer or music mixer, but I'm curious if this is similar to a pre-distortion technique. I work with electronics in Telecommunications and we use this technique to try and neutralize/minimize the distortion induced by some components during transmission. So I'm wondering if this option would allow you to push a "brick wall music" without EQ and without distorting in the speaker/headphone.
4:20 Giggity!
As far as I know the little pocket in jeans was for pocket watches.
My month old ES100 fritzed out. Randomly turns on and off in either BT or USB mode. So I sent it back. And now I’ve found the replacement.
Bryan Thompson the 3.5 headphone jack on mine is unusable for me, I’d say it’s most likely my fault since I sat on it and caused a lot of damage, I just use the balanced output.
My 2.5mm jack on my ES100 was all Staticky until I would spin the post from my iems and that was the start of issues. It was a great amp when it was working right. And mine was a MKII version
I'm listening to this on my BTR5
Best purchase ever!
#Awesomeness
I plan on buying it and using it as a USB dac/amp plugged into my laptop permanently, you think it’s a good idea or there is issues with battery or charging or stuff like that?
@@angelbenitez8035 no, that would be a perfect setup. You have the option to turn off charging in the menu. Best audio purchase in years :)
I've watched this four times now purely for its entertainment factor. Mayo hands still gets me every time.
This damn thing powers my Aeon Open X very well on high gain. Its the size of 2 of my fingers.
That little useless pocket on the right side of your jeans was meant for a pocket watch. It's a design vestige from the later part of the 19th century.
".....FUCK!.... fuck" XD The first words of the video made me blurt out laughing
"Dropped it like the soap in prison"- So you mean, on purpose?
1000% recommend! Granted it’s the best source I’ve ever had but omfg. Also I’ll probably get killed for saying this but for my needs it has the lowest latency I’ve ever seen with Bluetooth and can be used for gaming
Couple of weeks ago I purchased the BTR1K after testing the BTR3. The newer BTR1K's are so impressive, it boggles my mind how cheap they are and how great they sound. So BTR5 might be my next upgrade I guess.
EDIT: That blank problem with the APP happens on Google Pixel 2 XL by the way, still hasn't been fixed either. Very weird.
5:48 the little pocket on jeans was origanally ment for a pocket watch.
you know when he puts emojis in the title shit is about to go down
I don't know if you ever reviewed the BTR3K,its more in my price range,but I tried to find a review on it and I swear noone knows how to do a f###ing review.Thank God I found your channel
5:50 the small pocket was designet for pocket watches with chains on in the early years
Holy crap! You are so right. I got mine earlier today. I want to hear all my music all over again. I haven't been this excited to try out all my music again in a long while. I am using my pair of Westone UM Pro 50's and this thing sounds better than the Hiby R3 Pro that I also got today. I want to just listen to ALL my music sources and devices with this. This thing is the real deal folks.
to a casual listener with a btr3, will the btr5 make that much a difference? what part of the audio is improved?
will it improve youtube or the youtube music app experience?
using sony 1000xm3s for noise cancelling
pardon my ignorance
Thanks! Your reviews are great. A request could you have your camera fixed? Cz, by the end your videos, I get motion-sickness. :(
After waiting for years I finally got my hands on one for $85 on a 11:11 sale
(Was still quite expensive for me because if hyperinflation in my country and the additional 12% tax for spending money outside of our country, also hope I don’t get called to customs and have to pay an additional tax 😢)
Ive been keeping my eye on the q1 mk ii for ages then on this and I was finally able to afford it 😘
Cant wait till I get it in February (since that’s how shipping works for some countries 🤣)
I just got my own, and ive been thinking about potential "problems" with power, this has made me so much more exited about it
I want it for my Fiio FH1's but I wish the BTR5 had a bass switch as well, 'cause I don't think BTR5 is 'enough on bass' for my Audio Technica MSR7b(the balanced ones). So my question is, is this good for my Audio Technica MSR7b USB DAC and for use with my phone ?
PS: WTF I forgot to look it up if it was available for sale at my local store. Now at stock it says Check a consultant ffffffcuk 'cause it's December 22'd and I don't know if they will be available till 2020.
that little pocket on your jeans is where the fabled pocket knife goes.
Wich pads are you considering for your Auteur Zeos?? Are those closed verités on the wall btw? Excited for those!
I wasn't aware an actual BTR5 was coming after the M5. Gotta get it, already have the BTR3 and it kicks butt. All the people still going "meh Bluetooth sounds bad" are no doubt using crap headphones and a crap amp. Oh, and the BTR3 seems to be for sale now at $60, which is a staggering deal.
I hate Bluetooth sound but have been planning to get a DAC like the ES100 for like a year or so
Finally giving the BTR 5 a shot, not sure when it arrives though but I'm excited
@@BRUHItsABunny As long as you have a source (phone) capable of providing at least AptX HD you should get fantastic sound. FiiO does great at keeping their amp noise floor low to nonexistent, and that's one big issue with many Bluetooth solutions - tiny amps, driven hard = hiss and a perceived lack of dynamics. I mean, the BTR3 is already fantastic at that, and this one is better. So yeah, I'll be getting the 5 myself.
@@lorcro2000 so the hissing would finally be to a minimum? that's great
my phone is capable aptx HD and aptx adaptive over BT 5.0 so it should be a great combo then
@@BRUHItsABunny It's what struck me the first time I played something on my lowly BTR3 - when it was supposed to be silent, it was silent. Looking forward to seeing what the 5 can do.
@@lorcro2000 Fiio output is like OLED screens, black is black. Do you have the btr5 now?
Maybe if it gets popular there's gonna be a vinyl wrap for it. Also you could just DIY cut a vinyl wrap for it.
Me after having bought the ES100, BTR3, and K 3: "Interesting."
What can you say comparing your BTR3 with this BRT5 review?
@@JerryWDaviscom Well, I'd say it's a fusion of the ES100 and BTR3. It's got the metal housing and USB C of the BTR3 and the balanced output of the ES100, so in a sense, it's the best of both worlds.
Key factor to consider here is that the btr5 outputs a lot more power than the es100
@@MrB10N1CLE es100 had better app, right? Is this important ?
@@v.i.l.o. If you're a control freak like me, yes.
EQ Question: is the 10 band EQ in the app able to achieve comparable results to the bass boost on the FiiO Music Q1 MKII?
Jacob Dawson I’m asking because Zeos (and others) say that the bass boost on Fiio Q1 (and items like iFi Hip Dac) is great. But they they seem to say that software EQ (Hiby’s MSEB, for example) aren’t good.
BTR5 has eq but it only works in sbc, aac and aptx, doesn't work in LDAC, Q1 MK2 bass boost is little bit heavy and distorting in higher volumes on high gain.
Get the BTR5, ITS FRICKIN AWESOME....!!!
After all these raving reviews I bought one and not really impressed. Tried M40x, HD6xx and a stupid Beats solo 3 and none of them sounded any better than my PC motherboards audio output or the output from a Note 9. It hasn't even been a week and the battery is already showing issues like not charging. Will return it if this continues for warranty.
what motherboard does your PC have?
@5.50 btw the tiny pocket in yr jeans is for the pocket watch since the old days when people had pocket watch instead of wrist watch, and to be kept safe in a separate pocket
Hi, it was watching your review on the fiio btr5 that convinced me to buy. Had it for about 3 months now and love it as a mobile DAC to use with my smartphone and AKG Y50BT headphones. I am using the cable provided with the headphones but suspect I could do much better. The cable supplied is unbalanced, and 2.5mm at headphones and 3.5mm at the fiio. My question is, would I benefit from getting a balanced cable? Could you recommend a cable either in the same format I have now (ie 3.5 to 2.5) or 2.5 to 2.5 balanced or unbalanced. You obviously have far more experience than I have and I value your opinion. Many thanks and keep up the great reviews
Btw if you want to get to Gain fast you could use the pairing and power button as an up down switch through the menu, this thing is a beast...
Great - between this review and Bad Guy's rant, we can expect the Australian sellers to go from 170 AUD straight to double the US price. To be fair to you guys, that's the direction they've been heading for at least a year :(
Can you review Shanling UP4 ? It's cheaper than btr5 but with same specs
Just got one.
Yes please do.. versus...
Yeah, I think I want one. Now Zeos, do a review of the BTR5 and some bluetooth IEM's if its capable of transmitting to BT IEM's. I don't find that capability in the data. But those BT oscillators - oooooh they are sexy. Practically alien. Good review.
What are the specifications for Bluetooth audio? How many bits per sample? Sample Rate? Is it just an MP3 compressed? I'll have to look it up. Thanks for the review Z.
Would it work with music streaming apps like tidal or Spotify ? Is the fiio app necessary?
Try wavelet, it's an app that has a library of auto EQ tuning to just tap and enjoy
Sorry for the dumb question, but why wouldn't you just plug the headphones into the phone and bypass the middleman?
phones doesnt have enough power to drive headphones and there is where the middle man comes :)
I have a BTR3 and really like it , but FiiO needs to put more priority on battery life. Sucks that the BTR5 actually has less runtime than the BTR3.
The btr5 does sound better than the btr3 though. And its really powerfull.
Also it's pretty convenient that you can charge and use it at the same time
I'm perfectly OK with the BTR3's battery life, I never listen for long enough or loud enough to drain it in just one listening session. But at the same time I don't trivialize music and run it as a "background" like I did when I was younger. If I'm gonna use my audio gear to play some music I'm gonna be focusing on that music, it's gonna be an activity unto itself. And then I won't be doing it for more than 1-2 hours at a time, so... more enough battery life for critical listening.
hi there, thanks for the review! I got both the btr5 and fh5 and am very happy with the pair. ( also have the meze 99 classics and moondrop starfield and they all go very nicely with the BTR5). Would like to get a good Open Back headphone (for under 500US) but am afraid the btr5 won't be able to drive it to its best potencial. Do you have any ideas or suggestion in that regard? Thanks! Best, Rodrigo.
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I just bought this, it's very confusing because it's so smol but so amazing.
Hey zeos is this a good choice for my first dac/amp combo for desktop use? Aswell as its portability features? My usage would be time to time i will travel to an event and use the btr5 as dac/amp to the desktop, and all the BT options is a bonus. Thinking of trying out balanced source. Will use this to run with my tin t4. When connected to a desktop as dac/amp is it plug n play or need drivers to run? Ty and happy holidays.
If that's the moto z2 force, I'm using the exact same setup. Just got my btr5, and I'm using it with some v-moda xfade wireless, and hoh-lee. No more distorted low ends. Deeper low end. So much more open. Idek the extent of the differences yet, as I've had it for all of 30 min or so
A major pet peeve with the BTR3 is that the boot-up and shutdown tones are the same. Does the 5 have the same thing?
How is the microphone on BTR5? The BTR3 mic is pretty bad during calls. Is it a worthwhile upgrade from BTR3?
Quick Side note: the LG V and G series runs the same ess sabre 9218 dac.
damon Cattleman And this little thing runs two of those when in in balanced mode.
Correction; LG V and G series use generation one. This uses Gen 2. I believe the V60 has the second gen Sabre tho
@@davitvardanyan399 this runs dual, LG phones run quad
@@mikael7071 I don't think so. LG runs the same dac (ess sabre 9218p) from v20 to v50. However, depending on the phone, each one varies due to the tuning. LG V20 and V30 are tuned by B&O. The LG V40 (which I own) is turned by Merdian. LG V50 is in house tuning by LG themselves. The V60 runs a updated dac chip (ess sabre 9219). I can't say anything on that though because, I haven't heard it yet.
@@damoncattleman5504 you may be right, it's a very long time ago I looked this up, but now I have to go relook 😆
EarStudio also has a car mode in case anyone was wondering, and it’s DAC is pretty good as well imo
So, the BTR5 was a bit of a bitch to find until recently, and that’s because they (rather slowly) rolled out a “silent update”. Now, instead of using dual ess 9218’s, it uses the newer 9219’s. Not a big deal as it didn’t really change output wattage much if any. That said, I t’s also now available with a Lightning OTG adapter cable for wired mobile DAC use with apple devices, which is nice for those of us still using iOS even though Apple abandoned audio fidelity years ago.
have you forced your phone to use 990kbps LDAC? ive heard 330 isn't that good and sometimes phones slip down to that