Great video about the Wraith Hiveship, and you giving the best detail breakdown about said ship. Your measurements of the Wraith Hiveship is the best ones for the correct size, just missing the height measurement. Now just have to wait for the Wraith Cruiser to appear in the future.
@chad1brown thanks buddy little tweaks here and there and I'm getting better and writing the script so it's easier to read it 😀 all in all I'm improving 😀
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y I would recommend varying the background music a bit. If you want music with a sci-fi theme and free copyright I would say try White Bat Audio. I usually listen to his music while reading sci-fi books.
Um I'm sure someone pointed this out already regarding the Atlantis shields. If I'm not mistaken, with Atlantis submerged the Wraith were unable to penetrate it's shields and essentially gave up and went into hibernation and the Atlantean s' ascended and abandoned the city. I thought that was the basis for practically the whole show?
@nunyabusinesss1476 yh I know this buddy the wraith overwhelming fire power is the whole reason for the city submergence, but the expedition couldn't submerged and had to cloak to fool the wraith. if the city didn't have an escape, the wraith would overwhelm the shield fairly quickly even with 3 zpms
In the series i had the Impression that the size variys in differnt shots and scenes. That aside i like to think the ships are growing as they are ageing.
@DieSuper-Influencer also to note the ship scaling I the show was never correct this was even stated by Brad Wright the ships were animated to look good for the scene rather than for size accuracy witch as someone who likes ship specification it's really hard to get a 100% conformation on ships sizes outside of the CGI model size witch again can be manipulated to be smaller or larger for the scene
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y ha ha ha. I can imagin. Thats what i love about star wars and trek. Books with the exact data and blueprints of everything. A shame stargate never had these…
For the size you could use the images from the episode were the deadalus was place between the hollow space in the hive (can't remember why they did that)
I did have that imagine and I choose not to use due to it being a wire frame animation and not to direct scale it was shown on the episode were the wraith had a brief alliance with the wraith in season 2
I know lore about Goa'uld´s, how they was created.. but i have my own theory. --> Because of 100man 100woman Lanteran experiment. (Loki style Asgard.) After Lanterant lost Pegasus Galaxy and come back to Milky Way, someone like Janus ( somethink like Loki experiments on humans, one whos go rogue..) from other population and start experiment how to make Lanterans even in fight vs Wraith´s. And Goa'uld was created, but not like was expected. Goa'uld was more dominant than original owner of body, so they abbadon this project. Its typical Lanteran style.. xD But only speculation. Same way i have theory about Alliance of 4. Lanterans, Nox´s, Asgards and Furlings. Furling and Nox´s are only race from our Galaxy, they m8by exist in time when Lanterans come, but they m8by didnt accept they rule.. or domination over them. History is write by winners, and Alliance of 4 race, is m8by just lie created by Asgards. Lanterans mostly act always like they're something more than the rest. And the "disease" that almost wiped them out could have been purposefully created by the Asgard and Furlings. When one race succumbed to genocide Its kinda crazy i know.. but more than 15y SG... Suddenly you see something deeper in it.
great comment you make me think but the goa'uld evolved in that lake on the unaus planets and took unaus as host first then humans so i don't think the lantanas had anything to do with the goa'uld and the 4 races need more lore especially the furling's
I can confirm the lenght of the Hive ship between 9,100 and 9,500 IF compared to your estimes of a 600 meter X304. THE SCENE od George Hammond crashing into a hive has that ratio as legitimate. Personally i think the X304 is only 400 meterd so 13 x 400 would make the lower end 5.2 km as just as likely
@@DerpyPenguin4747 Yes that ratio Matches what he shows here. It does have me questioning one thing. If the Normal Hive is this large then how large was the Super Hive in the SGA Season Finally? It didn't look monstrously bigger this Hive when compared with the City of Atlantis...maybe I'm wrong.
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y I remember that episode, how that Wraith biotech grow from her, but I never understood that this was a way to create a Hive Ship. If that was said, I forgot it a long time ago. xD
Just to remind you that there is an episode in Stargate Atlantis, where Michael, the rate that was turned into a human and the trying to get the retrovirus. There is actually a screen that shows the deadliest sitting in between the gap of the high ships in the centre of the ship, so you might be able to get a proper estimate using that.
@Azurik117 I had that image and due to it being a wire frame animating of both ships it dosent accurately depicted the scale of the 2 ships I was going to use it but chose not to due to the lack of detail but I appreciate the comment
If the Lanteans knew where the Wraiths were hiding and the Wraiths lacked space flight, just bombard the planet from orbit till it is uninhabitable. Edit: The one possibility that may stay the Lantean's hand is that they wanted to recapture the Wraiths to continue their study.
@ycplum7062 glass them is what your saying lol but I belive the novel says that after they escaped to athos they went back through the gate to random planet and avoided the lanteans that way I will have to read the novel again
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y Thanks. Never read the novel. I guess they can use the gates to raid small outposts and settlements to gather equipment and feed, always staying one step ahead of the Lanteans. At least that is what I would do. lol
Beta canon, obscure novels. In the show it was implied they originated "naturaly" from the bug and human hybrids. Before wraith, majority of gates in Pegasus had no reason to be in orbit. Hybrids spread thru the gate system and started to rump up their technology. Picked the tech with smalest infrastructure needed to build, repair and maintain their ships, as possible - they simply need a host or few and location with plenty of resources and natural power source(s) to assist in "hatching" the ships.
are you from england? you said 11 o clock ist premiere. it ist 12 o clock in my time zone. so i guess you are in english brother? see you in a few hours :)
"Thousand plus" the warriors, and "thousandS" of darts? Sorry, but by simple logic, hive should have MORE drone warriors than darts, to "man" darts, hiveship systems AND possible fielded footsoldiers army.
The second "history" makes no sense. First off, if they stole Lantean technology, then their tech would be much more similar to theirs than what it is Second, if they came from humans, presumably by the same retrovirus or something similar, I would doubt if they would turn fully wraith as John Shepard didn't and Michael and the other wraith turned human by the retrovirus didn't completely turn human. At least, not mentally Third, The iratus bug is a part of wraith biology. When Todd was infected by a disease, he used iratus bug DNA to heal himself Also, Lantean ships are purely mechanical, wraith ships are biological. even their hyperspace drives are widely different, if wraith tech is based on Lantean, it wouldn't be Lastly, the wraith society acts like a social insect society with a queen to breed, workers and drones to make it function. that wouldn't work with a human derived culture The best size differential that I know of is comparing the Daedalus class ship itself as at one point, a 304 fit easily into the lower circle of the gap in the bow with room for at least 2 or 3 more 304s in front of it Do wraith ships have shields? Sometimes, it seems In the first major attack on Atlantis, a 304 successfully beamed a naquadah enhanced nuclear bomb onto a hive ship, blowing it up. However, they couldn't beam nukes to ANY other hive ship from that point on because of some kind of anti beaming shields for the remainder of the series I believe, and this is only a theory, that a hive ship's power comes from, at least partially, the hibernating wraith themselves as does a borg ship in Star Trek, which is also how the borg ship regenerates damage. The hibernating wraith themselves could direct energy as needed Do the Wraith have quarters, or is it just status pods? The Wraith don't sleep, nor do they need "alone" time so why would they need quarters?
@dragonweyr44 for the second history I only quoted from the novel whether this is cannon I don't know but it was a intreasting take. for the jamming tech for beaming that was a electromagnetic static field witch I stated and the quarters for the wraith as stated were rooms for the male wraith for what function not sure but Michel had one in the show so it shows individual rooms for the wraith commanders and for power it's never stated that wraith hibernating power the ship but when a wraith dose hibernate the ship and the wraith have a transfered of fluids to sustain the wraith that's how the ship got infected but good comment I'm only stated what I found online from the official shows cannon, the comics, short story's and novels so some of the information is mixed between the 2 material nothing I have stated comes directly from me it's all from the various materials just to let you know but I appreciate your in depth comment your a true fan like me
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y I don't mean to imply that any of this is your own opinion, if you took it that way then, I am sorry that you felt that way I just meant that this so called second history makes no sense to what we've seen in the show The electromagnetic force field must have been switched on after the first hive ship was blown up and never turned off again, on every wraith ship, of every faction because the Tau'ri never tried to beam nukes on board again The thing that I don't understand though is that this force field doesn't work on Lantean drone weapons, why? I understand that when wraith are in status, there is a fluid transfer between the ship and the wraith, but it could go both ways for power and regeneration like it does with borg or the humans in the Mattix movies I also understand that Michael had his own room on the show but it didn't make sense that individual wraith have their own rooms. Did he only get it AFTER he started turning humans into hybrids? Because that would make more sense to me as he would want to get away from his soldiers every so often as he isn't a queen and couldn't handle the stress of leadership as well as a queen could
@dragonweyr44 the static field jammed the beam from locking on the inside of the ship like signal interference. The drones are not affected by that as they just impact the ship from the outside and I didint take the coment as you was say ots my opinion I just thought to just clarify where the info came from that's all so no worrys mate
@@dragonweyr44 I would not thing of the electromagnetic counter measures to the transporter beam as a "shield". Shields usually have some type of coherency (like static electric shields on a surface or the teh earth's magnetic field). I suspect the interference is similar to present day electronic jamming that interferes with radio signals, such as radio, radar, GPS signals, and drone communications. Fundamentally, radio signals of the proper frequency is blasted so that the noise is greater than the signal. If I recall correctly (and I might not), I think the show used the term "jamming" or "interfere". As such, the jamming would not effect other weapon systems. The Wraiths could have initially used Lantean technologies, but over time developed (or grew) their own technologies, but can still use Lantean components or scientific principles. Lacking ZPMs and Lantean industrial base, the Wraiths had to follow a separate technology tree beyond a certain point, like space travel. With regards to their society, I suspect it is a hybrid society. It is a hive society at the lower levels (warriros), but have greater individual autonomy as the level gets higher.
16:28 "Starting off, we have the throne room - because even the Wraith need a place to take care of business now and then" 😁
@@EBFE hahahaha excellent
Great video about the Wraith Hiveship, and you giving the best detail breakdown about said ship.
Your measurements of the Wraith Hiveship is the best ones for the correct size, just missing the height measurement.
Now just have to wait for the Wraith Cruiser to appear in the future.
@LaterMercury823 thanks buddy I made sure I did the research took 3 days of research it but worth it thanks for the comment
The improvements in vidoe editing and quality is very notable, well done bro
@chad1brown thanks buddy little tweaks here and there and I'm getting better and writing the script so it's easier to read it 😀 all in all I'm improving 😀
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y I would recommend varying the background music a bit.
If you want music with a sci-fi theme and free copyright I would say try White Bat Audio. I usually listen to his music while reading sci-fi books.
This guy is too cool to be Dr. McKay.
@@fadingjedi thanks I guess
Um I'm sure someone pointed this out already regarding the Atlantis shields. If I'm not mistaken, with Atlantis submerged the Wraith were unable to penetrate it's shields and essentially gave up and went into hibernation and the Atlantean s' ascended and abandoned the city. I thought that was the basis for practically the whole show?
@nunyabusinesss1476 yh I know this buddy the wraith overwhelming fire power is the whole reason for the city submergence, but the expedition couldn't submerged and had to cloak to fool the wraith. if the city didn't have an escape, the wraith would overwhelm the shield fairly quickly even with 3 zpms
In the series i had the Impression that the size variys in differnt shots and scenes. That aside i like to think the ships are growing as they are ageing.
@@DieSuper-Influencer intreasteing concept the older the hive the bigger I like that
@DieSuper-Influencer also to note the ship scaling I the show was never correct this was even stated by Brad Wright the ships were animated to look good for the scene rather than for size accuracy witch as someone who likes ship specification it's really hard to get a 100% conformation on ships sizes outside of the CGI model size witch again can be manipulated to be smaller or larger for the scene
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y ah okay, that explains a lot.
@@DieSuper-Influencer yh its infuriating at times when doing these videos
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y ha ha ha. I can imagin. Thats what i love about star wars and trek. Books with the exact data and blueprints of everything. A shame stargate never had these…
For the size you could use the images from the episode were the deadalus was place between the hollow space in the hive (can't remember why they did that)
I did have that imagine and I choose not to use due to it being a wire frame animation and not to direct scale it was shown on the episode were the wraith had a brief alliance with the wraith in season 2
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y ah ok, I understand why you didn't use it
I know lore about Goa'uld´s, how they was created.. but i have my own theory. --> Because of 100man 100woman Lanteran experiment. (Loki style Asgard.)
After Lanterant lost Pegasus Galaxy and come back to Milky Way, someone like Janus ( somethink like Loki experiments on humans, one whos go rogue..) from other population and start experiment how to make Lanterans even in fight vs Wraith´s. And Goa'uld was created, but not like was expected.
Goa'uld was more dominant than original owner of body, so they abbadon this project.
Its typical Lanteran style.. xD But only speculation.
Same way i have theory about Alliance of 4. Lanterans, Nox´s, Asgards and Furlings.
Furling and Nox´s are only race from our Galaxy, they m8by exist in time when Lanterans come, but they m8by didnt accept they rule.. or domination over them. History is write by winners, and Alliance of 4 race, is m8by just lie created by Asgards. Lanterans mostly act always like they're something more than the rest. And the "disease" that almost wiped them out could have been purposefully created by the Asgard and Furlings. When one race succumbed to genocide
Its kinda crazy i know.. but more than 15y SG... Suddenly you see something deeper in it.
great comment you make me think but the goa'uld evolved in that lake on the unaus planets and took unaus as host first then humans so i don't think the lantanas had anything to do with the goa'uld and the 4 races need more lore especially the furling's
I can confirm the lenght of the Hive ship between 9,100 and 9,500 IF compared to your estimes of a 600 meter X304.
THE SCENE od George Hammond crashing into a hive has that ratio as legitimate.
Personally i think the X304 is only 400 meterd so 13 x 400 would make the lower end 5.2 km as just as likely
great comment as usual buddy the size was the most logical size i could work out cheers
There was also that scene where they simulated the Daedalus flying close to a hive ship
@@DerpyPenguin4747 Yes that ratio Matches what he shows here. It does have me questioning one thing. If the Normal Hive is this large then how large was the Super Hive in the SGA Season Finally? It didn't look monstrously bigger this Hive when compared with the City of Atlantis...maybe I'm wrong.
Btw. Thanks. I never know, Hive Ship is created from human! Thats cool and creapy! Sooooo Wraith! :D
@buklao8000 yh it was shown in the show season 5 when dr Keller was infected and it started growing in atlantis
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y I remember that episode, how that Wraith biotech grow from her, but I never understood that this was a way to create a Hive Ship. If that was said, I forgot it a long time ago. xD
@buklao8000 there is a few lines stating it in the episode
Just to remind you that there is an episode in Stargate Atlantis, where Michael, the rate that was turned into a human and the trying to get the retrovirus. There is actually a screen that shows the deadliest sitting in between the gap of the high ships in the centre of the ship, so you might be able to get a proper estimate using that.
@Azurik117 I had that image and due to it being a wire frame animating of both ships it dosent accurately depicted the scale of the 2 ships I was going to use it but chose not to due to the lack of detail but I appreciate the comment
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y oh OK cool still a good video
@@Azurik117 thanks buddy
No engine rooms?
@CaptainDonut0 there's engine rooms I do mention it
If the Lanteans knew where the Wraiths were hiding and the Wraiths lacked space flight, just bombard the planet from orbit till it is uninhabitable.
Edit: The one possibility that may stay the Lantean's hand is that they wanted to recapture the Wraiths to continue their study.
@ycplum7062 glass them is what your saying lol but I belive the novel says that after they escaped to athos they went back through the gate to random planet and avoided the lanteans that way I will have to read the novel again
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y
Thanks. Never read the novel. I guess they can use the gates to raid small outposts and settlements to gather equipment and feed, always staying one step ahead of the Lanteans.
At least that is what I would do. lol
@@ycplum7062 the novels are a good read i think there are 21 in total all very interesting and some continue Atlantis past season 5 so there that
Beta canon, obscure novels.
In the show it was implied they originated "naturaly" from the bug and human hybrids. Before wraith, majority of gates in Pegasus had no reason to be in orbit. Hybrids spread thru the gate system and started to rump up their technology. Picked the tech with smalest infrastructure needed to build, repair and maintain their ships, as possible - they simply need a host or few and location with plenty of resources and natural power source(s) to assist in "hatching" the ships.
are you from england? you said 11 o clock ist premiere. it ist 12 o clock in my time zone. so i guess you are in english brother?
see you in a few hours :)
@stefanbuch9782 yes England maybe I should stated time zone sorry
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y no problem my european brother. but for the americans it would be better.
greetings from germany :)
@stefanbuch9782 greeting and no worries, my friend I'm glad your enjoying the content
"Thousand plus" the warriors, and "thousandS" of darts? Sorry, but by simple logic, hive should have MORE drone warriors than darts, to "man" darts, hiveship systems AND possible fielded footsoldiers army.
so kill all 9 queens and the wraith die out eventually
The second "history" makes no sense.
First off, if they stole Lantean technology, then their tech would be much more similar to theirs than what it is
Second, if they came from humans, presumably by the same retrovirus or something similar, I would doubt if they would turn fully wraith as John Shepard didn't and Michael and the other wraith turned human by the retrovirus didn't completely turn human. At least, not mentally
Third, The iratus bug is a part of wraith biology. When Todd was infected by a disease, he used iratus bug DNA to heal himself
Also, Lantean ships are purely mechanical, wraith ships are biological. even their hyperspace drives are widely different, if wraith tech is based on Lantean, it wouldn't be
Lastly, the wraith society acts like a social insect society with a queen to breed, workers and drones to make it function. that wouldn't work with a human derived culture
The best size differential that I know of is comparing the Daedalus class ship itself as at one point, a 304 fit easily into the lower circle of the gap in the bow with room for at least 2 or 3 more 304s in front of it
Do wraith ships have shields? Sometimes, it seems
In the first major attack on Atlantis, a 304 successfully beamed a naquadah enhanced nuclear bomb onto a hive ship, blowing it up. However, they couldn't beam nukes to ANY other hive ship from that point on because of some kind of anti beaming shields for the remainder of the series
I believe, and this is only a theory, that a hive ship's power comes from, at least partially, the hibernating wraith themselves as does a borg ship in Star Trek, which is also how the borg ship regenerates damage. The hibernating wraith themselves could direct energy as needed
Do the Wraith have quarters, or is it just status pods? The Wraith don't sleep, nor do they need "alone" time so why would they need quarters?
@dragonweyr44 for the second history I only quoted from the novel whether this is cannon I don't know but it was a intreasting take. for the jamming tech for beaming that was a electromagnetic static field witch I stated and the quarters for the wraith as stated were rooms for the male wraith for what function not sure but Michel had one in the show so it shows individual rooms for the wraith commanders and for power it's never stated that wraith hibernating power the ship but when a wraith dose hibernate the ship and the wraith have a transfered of fluids to sustain the wraith that's how the ship got infected but good comment I'm only stated what I found online from the official shows cannon, the comics, short story's and novels so some of the information is mixed between the 2 material nothing I have stated comes directly from me it's all from the various materials just to let you know but I appreciate your in depth comment your a true fan like me
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y I don't mean to imply that any of this is your own opinion, if you took it that way then, I am sorry that you felt that way
I just meant that this so called second history makes no sense to what we've seen in the show
The electromagnetic force field must have been switched on after the first hive ship was blown up and never turned off again, on every wraith ship, of every faction because the Tau'ri never tried to beam nukes on board again
The thing that I don't understand though is that this force field doesn't work on Lantean drone weapons, why?
I understand that when wraith are in status, there is a fluid transfer between the ship and the wraith, but it could go both ways for power and regeneration like it does with borg or the humans in the Mattix movies
I also understand that Michael had his own room on the show but it didn't make sense that individual wraith have their own rooms. Did he only get it AFTER he started turning humans into hybrids? Because that would make more sense to me as he would want to get away from his soldiers every so often as he isn't a queen and couldn't handle the stress of leadership as well as a queen could
@dragonweyr44 the static field jammed the beam from locking on the inside of the ship like signal interference. The drones are not affected by that as they just impact the ship from the outside and I didint take the coment as you was say ots my opinion I just thought to just clarify where the info came from that's all so no worrys mate
@@dragonweyr44
I would not thing of the electromagnetic counter measures to the transporter beam as a "shield". Shields usually have some type of coherency (like static electric shields on a surface or the teh earth's magnetic field). I suspect the interference is similar to present day electronic jamming that interferes with radio signals, such as radio, radar, GPS signals, and drone communications. Fundamentally, radio signals of the proper frequency is blasted so that the noise is greater than the signal. If I recall correctly (and I might not), I think the show used the term "jamming" or "interfere". As such, the jamming would not effect other weapon systems.
The Wraiths could have initially used Lantean technologies, but over time developed (or grew) their own technologies, but can still use Lantean components or scientific principles. Lacking ZPMs and Lantean industrial base, the Wraiths had to follow a separate technology tree beyond a certain point, like space travel.
With regards to their society, I suspect it is a hybrid society. It is a hive society at the lower levels (warriros), but have greater individual autonomy as the level gets higher.