I have been documenting how my retinitis pigmentosa is improving. My evidence is irrefutable and I have never seen any plant based information about reversing blindness. Thank you, Jen. I enjoy your discourse.
@@pippilotta3511 sure. Firstly though I am doing this on my phone which was not possible previously. I got the phone in 2018 and it was blurry up until 2023 after I started carnivore. In 2020 no eye chart results. In 2023 I noticed improvements and got a 6/30-2 in my right eye. At the end of 2023 I got a 6/12-2. In January this year I got 6/12-1 and in May got a 6/12. My last test in August was 6/9-1. Go to my channel and watch the videos in the playlist MY VIDEOS & MY INTERVIEWS Where I talk about this and put up test results on the screen. I really want to know what is going on so to try maximise the improvements. In my last video I talked about beta hydroxybutyrate. I created a playlist about genetics and gene expression. Being able to turn on or turn off a mutant RP gene like my RPE1 maybe enabling Normal retina repair processes. Beta hydroxybutyrate antioxidant and anti-inflammatory processes. I also favourable so having the body in ketosis I think might be my aim. I have tested many foods and some calls more inflammation and blurriness for me. I am currently thinking about taking exogenous ketones. Anyhow, the gist of it is to remove the plants Which do not have the proper fat and protein profiles plus contain all these anti-nutrients and outright poison. Others have left comments on my videos. You might find useful and you can leave comments there for me to find. Cheers.
Peter basically said calorie restriction is most important for optimum health but doesn’t mention that people that have tried every diet for many years and could never find the hunger off switch when eating a carnivore diet have no problem with hunger for the first time in their lives! Great talk guys.
Eddie is a force! Really enjoy him and have been following him. Its refreshing to see him in this setting too where he’s more his normal self and not the yt persona. You seem to pick smart people and advanced content for your channel and i appreciate that!
Peter Attia is overrated. He sounds credible but, he comes across to me as being out of step with common sense reasoning at times. I just avoid him. And yes, I have read his book, the first half… was of no value to me. It’s great to see the two of you collaborating. Eddie’s book is very good!!
Not sure I would consider my diet as carnivore diet as I would only eat fish if I don’t eat out, and I eat lots of green vegetables and berries, I just don’t eat much carbs. IMO, not just the proportion of the amount of fat/protein/carbs is important, it’s the quality of the fat/protein/carbs too! For instant, even with vegans, consuming cold pressed virgin olive oil is completely different from harmful ‘vegetable’ oils. It’s much harder to become obese with high consumption of olive oil than poisonous seed oils. Consuming protein from organic pea is very different from protein from GM soy. Same with carbs, consuming organic green vegetables or berries are not the same as consuming French fries. It’s quite confusing for most people who want to lose weight (body fat) when everyone is generalizing fat/protein/carbs as if they are all the same. 🙄
Wow what an absolutely fantastic analysis and discussion. It was a privilege to listen to. I have subscribed to both of your channels and look forward to more. Well done gents
Moral of the story, best or "species appropriate diet" will certainly be either all or mostly animal products with whole foods. It's unclear how far you can go into the whole foods side, but that's really the only question we have outside the finer details on which animal products are better and in what amounts depending on many factors like micro biome and other nuances.
Fruit flies are drosophila not Drosophilia (no “i” before the “a”). A minor thing but hey… excellent podcast. I love your guest and have been following him. Thank you. ☺️
I know of many people who eat a ketogenic diet, and absolutely none of them are plant-based keto. I am shocked that someone would thing that most people on keto are plant based. By necessity, one needs more protein and fat than carbs, so “plant-based keto” would probably only apply to vegetarians.
It’s possible but very difficult and I’d doubt that they actually have ketones circulating (which isn’t keto by definition). They’d have to eat eggs or fish - where else can you get carb free food in the veggie world? You’d have to starve to get low enough in carbs to make ketones. Protein is a big problem on that side of things. I’d never survive.
Got a copy it's a fantastic book. Thank you for an excellent presentation. Have you seen the videos presented by Dr Mike they are really complimentary to our overall understanding and the realisation of the complexity of the human body
2 things. The last bs that Attia spouted is how he appeals to the general public. He sells his opinion after laying down, often contradictory, science and without any logic. I don't know or care how he makes his money but he is selling something and therefore needs to be as vanilla as possible in his recommendations. Secondly, this format is excellent. It works far better than normal reactions because it seems less confrontational. As you both agree and explain how he is wrong it seems less personal. The other reason is tou are both excellent speakers and your voices meld into a coordinated argument that is clear and interesting. I suggest you do a lot more together.
Agreed he's dangerous, because for some reason people actually think he has a brain, but he's a reductionist, that can't see the forest for the trees. More red herrings first its LDL then no it's LDL C , no B no A no D ohh wait it's APOB.... who cares.... don't worry about what your body is doing with what pathway. No human is smarter than millions of years of human evolution. Eat what your ancestors primarily ate for their entire existence, and thrive.
He's an idiot. A useless doc and useless on nutriton. Maybe for very basic things like doing a blood test (that ignores all the things that actually matter), he's ok.
@@jeffthomas7345 Still claims LDL is causal while showing a graph that clearly proves LDL is not. Also if LDL is causal why does it only build up in certain places? It would be equal buildup everywhere in arteries and veins. Silly man.
OMGoodness I'm excited to watch this. I stopped listening to Peter Attia when he quit keto, and began saying diet was not causative. Seemed to me he missed eating one of his favorite high-carb college dishes. Dr. Attia showed he is a carb addict who wants to indulge, health be damned. Plus, he looks old. I'm not getting anti-aging advice from a person who is aging as quickly as he is. #carnivoreheals ❤
Looks old? He takes zero medication or hormone replacement and he's in his '50s. What in the world do you want him to look like he's lean and strong. He could look better sure but that would involve injecting hormones which I do myself and I'm for but he doesn't look old and even if he had wrinkles on his face or gray hair that wouldn't make a bit of difference as it has no effects on someone from a diet standpoint neither of which is caused by any damage it's just the process of your cell's aging from decades of environmental factors
@@arthurfonzarelli9828 he looks old asf, and I stand by that. AND he's a sellout. How can you trust someone who makes a paycheck from his "advice". He's got no integrity, and is bought and paid for. YUCK.
Great conversation! I really enjoyed it. But I can’t source a copy of Eddie’s book. I’m in Ireland and Amazon tells me all reading formats are currently unavailable- even the kindle version.
I eat way more than I used to and still have stable weight. I urge anyone on carnivore to consider not combining it with calorie restriction - you will feel like garbage. Slowly bump up your beef consumption to slowly increase your metabolism and feel your best. Fasting is good but eat plenty when it’s eating days.
Stable isotope testing definitely can tell us what we ate, but how do we know it's optimal? What if it just reflects what was available and nutritious enough to make us reach fertile age and reproduce? Maybe we would do better on another mix? Then again, why do I feel so good eating just protein and fats originating from ruminants?
Well you would assume given that isotope testing evidence that fatty red meat is at least what we are most adapted to eat and at least it isn’t toxic. Vegetables are much more relatively recent in our adaptations and we are not adapted to anything in the produce aisle which didn’t exist a thousand years ago. So what else would be more ideal based on that data? If we adapted over millions of years eating fatty meat why would plants all of a sudden be better? We know it is not better. It is full of toxins when eaten by humans. Depression is rampant. Digestive diseases are everywhere. Cancer is exploding. Autoimmune diseases are also on the rise. Guess why? It sure isn’t the meat that we’re adapted to for millions of years. Could it be the exponential increase plant based diets due to government recommendations? Nah. Government is always right 🤣.
To that last point, I'd also say that once you're on this way of eating long enough your taste buds and satiety seem to recalibrate. Can't count how many times I've encountered people who'll say they could eat their chosen carnivore meal of choice everyday into infinity. It just never stops being satisfying. These people who go on about wanting "variety" are really just, in my humble opinion, masking a carb addiction and wanting a variety of food "flavours" made palatable by having a large bolus of carbs mixed in. It's quite telling that in this video's context it's coming from Peter Attia who has admitted to once being low carb then switching out of that way of eating for more carbohydrate consumption because he "just liked the taste of -insert some processed foods he named that I now forget-".
It's the shirt of the German national football team. Which surprised me, since he is british. But good for him. 😊 It means black, red, gold. Which are the colors of the German flag.
50:40 facts. most things are dependent variables, hate when people say X, Y, or Z is a direct cause for C, no matter what, especially things we've ancestrally eaten
At the hour mark - Been a carnivore for 2.5 years - easiest thing I've ever done - every time I chow down on a steak it tastes like heaven. I never get tired of the taste and I'm sure it's the same for anyone on a carnivore diet. Top interview by the way - was already a fan a Eddie. The only smart question is why did it take me so long to go carnivore (I'm 68)? Lack of knowledge because the internet didn't exist when I was young - and the powers that be didn't want us carnivore for some reason that I'll never know the true reason for !
@@IfYouMeetAWolf Why else would someone be asking. For themselves or their family that lost weight with ozempic. Just wait. They/you will gain it all back and then 50 more lbs. Don’t bother trying to fix the loose skin. The fat returning will fix that. Nothing gets fixed if the person didn’t learn how to eat like a human (meat and eggs).
Brother I only made in 13mins in… if you take almost anyone’s video on a subject, let them say one sentence and then give yourself and a cohost minutes at to reply in depth … of course the OG video will fall short 😂
Good points but too much nitpicking here that it reduces objectivity. Off the bat, it feels like the objective is to demonize the other person for 'the sake of good science/approach', , which I frankly didn't appreciate. Could have said everything they wanted to without the nitpicking. .
Great video. However, one can observe the influence of Bart Kay beeing "smart" and disregarding the insulin resistance as an important physiological phenomenon.
The current young generation that is more into the gym culture knows what caloric restriction is.Its literally eating in caloric deficit to lose fat taking into account eating eating a makeup of the diet which is healthy. I feel this video is just trying to create something ill to say about him. Having access adipose tissue in long time is very inflammatory for your body and most people know its a risk factor for many diseases.
There’s a reason why other animals in nature don’t need to count calories. If you’re eating a species appropriate diet your body signals you when to stop eating. Thats why high fat high protein is so effective for maintaining a healthy body weight. Carbs cause you to overeat, because they’re contraindicated in the human diet and can wreak havoc on our metabolism.
You obviously have no clue how to lose body fat. It isn’t caloric restriction alone. You must reduce insulin to unlock fat to burn. Calorie counting is not how you lose weight. Rather choosing the right food is how you lose/burn fat. Choose no carb and high fat foods. Eat 1-2 times a day. No snacks. Plenty of salt.
Tubers can be included for some people, assuming they stay in ketosis. The keto diet is not just a list of foods. There are lists of foods out there that are helpful for people to get started and a 20 g total carbs to ensure people get into ketosis. BUT some people can eat more carbs and still stay in ketosis AND some people need fewer carbs or higher fat to get and stay into ketosis. A keto diet is one that allows you, specifically, to stay in ketosis.
One thing you guys never factor in is subjectivr individualised TASTE preferences. Not scientifically engineered ‘palatability’ but simple taste preferences.
I do not like that Peter and Rhonda are so focussed on exercise and VO2 Max and downplay food and substrate and endocrine issues. If you don’t understand the value of clean fat to the depletion of deuterium and metabolic water and ETC then you are on the wrong path.
You don't like that they're focused on exercise? It's possibly the only thing that almost everyone will agree on that has a massive benefit to overall health. I think that focusing on the tings that we know work is better than overstating other elements which are more difficult to determine the outcome off.
Your position, if I understand correctly, is that stable isotope analysis of dead humans is the gold standard for determining the appropriate diet for humans. Right? This seems like a dogmatic stance. It can tell us what past humans consumed, but does that mean there’s no better way to eat? How is that information more compelling than outcome studies on living humans? I get that any nutritional study on living humans will have limitations. But that doesn’t render it useless. Or are you saying it does, that the only useful study is a perfect study?
If we use the isotope evidence alongside the fact that we do not have a rumen or a cecum to effectively digest plants then that leaves one option. Studies/Science and propaganda tend to muddy the waters a lot.
You both should listen to Dr. Jack Kruz. He thinks Dr. Atilla doesn't know a damn thing about the microbiome. And If you both really want to know why don't you ask the ET's since they created us and they should know the best food for humans to eat.
No one knows anything about the micro biome or what is a normal biome. All just guessing based on nonsense biases. My guts don’t stink anymore - that’s all the evidence I need. I don’t fart constantly and no longer smell like a landfill (like when I ate plants).
Do you really need a study to tell you that eating less over a lifetime - with food quality held constant and minimum nutrition requirements met - will prolong life? A car driven for less km is obv going to be in better condition than one driven double that.
I do.... Why is eating less significant in longevity? I'd say that animals including us ate until we were full anytime we caught food. Your logic sounds weird to me. Also, taking in food isn't the same as expending energy for a car. One example is input of fuel, and one is output of energy.
@@zenamatthews9380 you dont get the point at all - whose digestive system is ij better shape, a newborn baby’s or that of a 50yo person whose system has been given a solid workout over a lifetime?
My point is that with gastric bypass surgery or glipizide or exercising to exhaustion every day are sufficient for a person to do a caloric deficit and that alone is sufficient to prevent most diseases.
@@BeefNEggs057 Well, I am following a semi-vegetarian(fowl and fish occasionally) and definitely consider dairy and eggs to be a pretty much toxic food. I would eat them if I could actually see the chicken laying the eggs and the cow grazing in the grass, but we all know this isn't reality anymore and this stuff is a long term disaster for our health. You think that there are no long term effect of the so called "carnivore diet" well, I personally know 4 men, all in their late-40s who got heart attacks eating that way. 3 dead, and the surviving one is now eating soup and vegetables. Everything has consequences, and you can't exercise your way out of this either....None of their death certificates state their "diet" either.
I appreciate ever better information, but I do think a discussion with Peter Attia directly would yield a more fair assessment of him. I guess there's a purpose to doing it this way, but it smacks of ganging up on him. Sorry, I love your content, but in my mind no one deserves to be picked apart like this from a distance. Thanks for what you all do, just felt like I needed to say this.
Attia wouldn’t come on carnivore channels. That’s why. He also only talks on “establishment friendly” channels where he doesn’t have to defend his indefensible positions. He’s a paid shill for the medical establishment to sell pills for big pharma. He can’t defend his nonsense.
This channel is set for immense growth. It’s cool to see creators like this in their ‘early days.’
He has 82k subs defo not early days
I have been documenting how my retinitis pigmentosa is improving. My evidence is irrefutable and I have never seen any plant based information about reversing blindness.
Thank you, Jen. I enjoy your discourse.
Can you please tell me more? I’m interested in your approach and how much improvement you have seen. Thank you.
@@pippilotta3511 sure. Firstly though I am doing this on my phone which was not possible previously. I got the phone in 2018 and it was blurry up until 2023 after I started carnivore.
In 2020 no eye chart results. In 2023 I noticed improvements and got a 6/30-2 in my right eye. At the end of 2023 I got a 6/12-2. In January this year I got 6/12-1 and in May got a 6/12. My last test in August was 6/9-1.
Go to my channel and watch the videos in the playlist MY VIDEOS & MY INTERVIEWS Where I talk about this and put up test results on the screen.
I really want to know what is going on so to try maximise the improvements. In my last video I talked about beta hydroxybutyrate. I created a playlist about genetics and gene expression.
Being able to turn on or turn off a mutant RP gene like my RPE1 maybe enabling Normal retina repair processes.
Beta hydroxybutyrate antioxidant and anti-inflammatory processes. I also favourable so having the body in ketosis I think might be my aim.
I have tested many foods and some calls more inflammation and blurriness for me. I am currently thinking about taking exogenous ketones.
Anyhow, the gist of it is to remove the plants Which do not have the proper fat and protein profiles plus contain all these anti-nutrients and outright poison.
Others have left comments on my videos. You might find useful and you can leave comments there for me to find. Cheers.
Yesss 🙌
Peter basically said calorie restriction is most important for optimum health but doesn’t mention that people that have tried every diet for many years and could never find the hunger off switch when eating a carnivore diet have no problem with hunger for the first time in their lives! Great talk guys.
I saw thousands of podcasts, but honestly this one is the most to the point of the proper human way of life!
Congratulations!
Thank you both for doing this, you're a good team.
This guest Eddy is an amazing resource. I’m grateful for the introduction.🙏
Eddie is a force! Really enjoy him and have been following him. Its refreshing to see him in this setting too where he’s more his normal self and not the yt persona. You seem to pick smart people and advanced content for your channel and i appreciate that!
Eddie is so knowledgeable and also clear with his explanations. What a great pair you two. Please do more of these. 👏
Incredibly impressive by Eddie. Had not heard of him before. Thanks for bringing him on, another absolutely worthy person to follow!!
I love just listening to the two of you talk!
Peter Attia is overrated. He sounds credible but, he comes across to me as being out of step with common sense reasoning at times. I just avoid him. And yes, I have read his book, the first half… was of no value to me. It’s great to see the two of you collaborating. Eddie’s book is very good!!
Good job Dr. Abs, keep the good work going, we need people like you in the ecosystem!
Not sure I would consider my diet as carnivore diet as I would only eat fish if I don’t eat out, and I eat lots of green vegetables and berries, I just don’t eat much carbs. IMO, not just the proportion of the amount of fat/protein/carbs is important, it’s the quality of the fat/protein/carbs too! For instant, even with vegans, consuming cold pressed virgin olive oil is completely different from harmful ‘vegetable’ oils. It’s much harder to become obese with high consumption of olive oil than poisonous seed oils. Consuming protein from organic pea is very different from protein from GM soy. Same with carbs, consuming organic green vegetables or berries are not the same as consuming French fries. It’s quite confusing for most people who want to lose weight (body fat) when everyone is generalizing fat/protein/carbs as if they are all the same. 🙄
Wow what an absolutely fantastic analysis and discussion. It was a privilege to listen to. I have subscribed to both of your channels and look forward to more. Well done gents
Thank you. Also, Bart Kay has made it clear how mistaken Peter Attia can be. I decline to trust Attia.
A less respectful response is Bart Kay’s mission statement.
This guys fantastic. I went straight to his page and subscribed. I’ll watch some of his videos later
Peter Attia tries a little too hard trying to show how much he “cares” for someone who gets paid for his “recommendations”
Moral of the story, best or "species appropriate diet" will certainly be either all or mostly animal products with whole foods. It's unclear how far you can go into the whole foods side, but that's really the only question we have outside the finer details on which animal products are better and in what amounts depending on many factors like micro biome and other nuances.
Very intelligent conversation, you both are interesting coach's. Thankyou for putting things in order, do more videos like this😊
Thanks gents, for pointing this out.
We need to make people like this more famous
hi, Eddie. Thanks for what you do!!
Fruit flies are drosophila not Drosophilia (no “i” before the “a”). A minor thing but hey… excellent podcast. I love your guest and have been following him. Thank you. ☺️
Love the attention to semantics
I know of many people who eat a ketogenic diet, and absolutely none of them are plant-based keto. I am shocked that someone would thing that most people on keto are plant based. By necessity, one needs more protein and fat than carbs, so “plant-based keto” would probably only apply to vegetarians.
It’s possible but very difficult and I’d doubt that they actually have ketones circulating (which isn’t keto by definition). They’d have to eat eggs or fish - where else can you get carb free food in the veggie world? You’d have to starve to get low enough in carbs to make ketones. Protein is a big problem on that side of things. I’d never survive.
Got a copy it's a fantastic book. Thank you for an excellent presentation. Have you seen the videos presented by Dr Mike they are really complimentary to our overall understanding and the realisation of the complexity of the human body
2 things.
The last bs that Attia spouted is how he appeals to the general public. He sells his opinion after laying down, often contradictory, science and without any logic.
I don't know or care how he makes his money but he is selling something and therefore needs to be as vanilla as possible in his recommendations.
Secondly, this format is excellent. It works far better than normal reactions because it seems less confrontational. As you both agree and explain how he is wrong it seems less personal.
The other reason is tou are both excellent speakers and your voices meld into a coordinated argument that is clear and interesting.
I suggest you do a lot more together.
One of the LAST people I'm going to listen to about nutrition is Attia. The guy's a complete hack.
Why?
Agreed he's dangerous, because for some reason people actually think he has a brain, but he's a reductionist, that can't see the forest for the trees. More red herrings first its LDL then no it's LDL C , no B no A no D ohh wait it's APOB.... who cares.... don't worry about what your body is doing with what pathway. No human is smarter than millions of years of human evolution. Eat what your ancestors primarily ate for their entire existence, and thrive.
Brags about downing 10 processed jerky stix a day. Oh. One of his companies btw
He's an idiot. A useless doc and useless on nutriton. Maybe for very basic things like doing a blood test (that ignores all the things that actually matter), he's ok.
@@jeffthomas7345 Still claims LDL is causal while showing a graph that clearly proves LDL is not. Also if LDL is causal why does it only build up in certain places? It would be equal buildup everywhere in arteries and veins. Silly man.
OMGoodness I'm excited to watch this. I stopped listening to Peter Attia when he quit keto, and began saying diet was not causative. Seemed to me he missed eating one of his favorite high-carb college dishes. Dr. Attia showed he is a carb addict who wants to indulge, health be damned. Plus, he looks old. I'm not getting anti-aging advice from a person who is aging as quickly as he is.
#carnivoreheals
❤
And I just found out about AG1, and knew I made the right decision after that.
Looks old? He takes zero medication or hormone replacement and he's in his '50s. What in the world do you want him to look like he's lean and strong. He could look better sure but that would involve injecting hormones which I do myself and I'm for but he doesn't look old and even if he had wrinkles on his face or gray hair that wouldn't make a bit of difference as it has no effects on someone from a diet standpoint neither of which is caused by any damage it's just the process of your cell's aging from decades of environmental factors
@@arthurfonzarelli9828 he looks old asf, and I stand by that. AND he's a sellout. How can you trust someone who makes a paycheck from his "advice". He's got no integrity, and is bought and paid for.
YUCK.
Great conversation! I really enjoyed it. But I can’t source a copy of Eddie’s book. I’m in Ireland and Amazon tells me all reading formats are currently unavailable- even the kindle version.
❤ Wonderful Podcast! ❤
I eat way more than I used to and still have stable weight. I urge anyone on carnivore to consider not combining it with calorie restriction - you will feel like garbage. Slowly bump up your beef consumption to slowly increase your metabolism and feel your best.
Fasting is good but eat plenty when it’s eating days.
These guys obviously listen to Bart Kay. Same terminology.
Everyone listens to bart kay. You would be very wise to do so.
love eddy he needs alot motre exposure
Absolutely ace teamup of you two. The two best up and coming ultra smart people when it comes to nutrition and carnivore. 😄
Stable isotope testing definitely can tell us what we ate, but how do we know it's optimal? What if it just reflects what was available and nutritious enough to make us reach fertile age and reproduce? Maybe we would do better on another mix? Then again, why do I feel so good eating just protein and fats originating from ruminants?
How dare you discuss nuance! 😂
Well you would assume given that isotope testing evidence that fatty red meat is at least what we are most adapted to eat and at least it isn’t toxic. Vegetables are much more relatively recent in our adaptations and we are not adapted to anything in the produce aisle which didn’t exist a thousand years ago.
So what else would be more ideal based on that data? If we adapted over millions of years eating fatty meat why would plants all of a sudden be better? We know it is not better. It is full of toxins when eaten by humans. Depression is rampant. Digestive diseases are everywhere. Cancer is exploding. Autoimmune diseases are also on the rise. Guess why? It sure isn’t the meat that we’re adapted to for millions of years. Could it be the exponential increase plant based diets due to government recommendations? Nah. Government is always right 🤣.
To that last point, I'd also say that once you're on this way of eating long enough your taste buds and satiety seem to recalibrate. Can't count how many times I've encountered people who'll say they could eat their chosen carnivore meal of choice everyday into infinity. It just never stops being satisfying.
These people who go on about wanting "variety" are really just, in my humble opinion, masking a carb addiction and wanting a variety of food "flavours" made palatable by having a large bolus of carbs mixed in. It's quite telling that in this video's context it's coming from Peter Attia who has admitted to once being low carb then switching out of that way of eating for more carbohydrate consumption because he "just liked the taste of -insert some processed foods he named that I now forget-".
But we DID experiment on humans at least once in the recent past.. back in 2021?
Even Covid wasn’t an experiment because it’s not completely controlled. Almost no difference than what is going on with our food supply
Schwarz Rot Gold - that’s an awesome T shirt
That caught me off guard as Schwarz is the exact spelling of my last name.
It's the shirt of the German national football team. Which surprised me, since he is british. But good for him. 😊
It means black, red, gold. Which are the colors of the German flag.
50:40 facts. most things are dependent variables, hate when people say X, Y, or Z is a direct cause for C, no matter what, especially things we've ancestrally eaten
Peter is stuck on himself.
Peter Attia is a Medical Doctor cosplaying a Nutritional Scientist.
Thank you gentlemen.
At the hour mark - Been a carnivore for 2.5 years - easiest thing I've ever done - every time I chow down on a steak it tastes like heaven. I never get tired of the taste and I'm sure it's the same for anyone on a carnivore diet. Top interview by the way - was already a fan a Eddie. The only smart question is why did it take me so long to go carnivore (I'm 68)? Lack of knowledge because the internet didn't exist when I was young - and the powers that be didn't want us carnivore for some reason that I'll never know the true reason for !
Attia pushes statins and the Cholesterol con
Just for the reviews i was a subduct since like 17k, commenting before he gets to 100k plus
Could you please do a video about how to battle loose skin during a lot of weight loss?
Ketosis and fasting. Autophagy is the goal to fight ozempic flappy skin. Guessing you took that instead of doing it the right way.
@BeefNEggs057 Who said I have loose skin?
@@IfYouMeetAWolf Why else would someone be asking. For themselves or their family that lost weight with ozempic. Just wait. They/you will gain it all back and then 50 more lbs. Don’t bother trying to fix the loose skin. The fat returning will fix that. Nothing gets fixed if the person didn’t learn how to eat like a human (meat and eggs).
Brother I only made in 13mins in… if you take almost anyone’s video on a subject, let them say one sentence and then give yourself and a cohost minutes at to reply in depth … of course the OG video will fall short 😂
Persistence is a virtue. Imagine what we miss out on when quitting too early.
Good points but too much nitpicking here that it reduces objectivity. Off the bat, it feels like the objective is to demonize the other person for 'the sake of good science/approach', , which I frankly didn't appreciate. Could have said everything they wanted to without the nitpicking. .
Respectfully disagree. The word nitpicking sounds petty. Nothing petty about these two guys’ intellects and arguments.
I’ve started putting on some fat. But I’ve also been drinking a lot of milk this summer
That’ll do it.
Great video. However, one can observe the influence of Bart Kay beeing "smart" and disregarding the insulin resistance as an important physiological phenomenon.
He doesn't. He says it's a misunderstood phenomenon. That's not disregarding the phenomenon, that's disregarding the people sho don't understand it.
The current young generation that is more into the gym culture knows what caloric restriction is.Its literally eating in caloric deficit to lose fat taking into account eating eating a makeup of the diet which is healthy. I feel this video is just trying to create something ill to say about him.
Having access adipose tissue in long time is very inflammatory for your body and most people know its a risk factor for many diseases.
There's no need for a caloric restriction. 😊
@@DebbieTDPCorrect, just go Carnivore and never count a calorie again.
There’s a reason why other animals in nature don’t need to count calories. If you’re eating a species appropriate diet your body signals you when to stop eating. Thats why high fat high protein is so effective for maintaining a healthy body weight. Carbs cause you to overeat, because they’re contraindicated in the human diet and can wreak havoc on our metabolism.
You obviously have no clue how to lose body fat. It isn’t caloric restriction alone. You must reduce insulin to unlock fat to burn. Calorie counting is not how you lose weight. Rather choosing the right food is how you lose/burn fat. Choose no carb and high fat foods. Eat 1-2 times a day. No snacks. Plenty of salt.
When I hear keto, I hear meat and vegetables that’s it. Not including tubers
Tubers can be included for some people, assuming they stay in ketosis. The keto diet is not just a list of foods. There are lists of foods out there that are helpful for people to get started and a 20 g total carbs to ensure people get into ketosis. BUT some people can eat more carbs and still stay in ketosis AND some people need fewer carbs or higher fat to get and stay into ketosis.
A keto diet is one that allows you, specifically, to stay in ketosis.
Eggs, dairy, fish
Beef butter bacon and eggs!
Peter has a Methylation issue., So he may give more information than is Necessary.. Methylation issues affect 40% of People!
Not everyone 🎉
Peter Attia "Longevity expert"? Where's the proof?
Peter is naive and easily fooled.
Premieres in 9 days??? Too far out
I have a balanced carnivore diet with a steak and rissoles.
He isn't as bad as Salidino but I found many holes in his ideas. Got the young man there hey!
One thing you guys never factor in is subjectivr individualised TASTE preferences. Not scientifically engineered ‘palatability’ but simple taste preferences.
Apes also canabilize each other, especially the young
I do not like that Peter and Rhonda are so focussed on exercise and VO2 Max and downplay food and substrate and endocrine issues. If you don’t understand the value of clean fat to the depletion of deuterium and metabolic water and ETC then you are on the wrong path.
You don't like that they're focused on exercise? It's possibly the only thing that almost everyone will agree on that has a massive benefit to overall health. I think that focusing on the tings that we know work is better than overstating other elements which are more difficult to determine the outcome off.
@@Struct.3diet is more important than exercise.
Fuck me. I wana be on their team 🤜🏼🤜🏼
Your position, if I understand correctly, is that stable isotope analysis of dead humans is the gold standard for determining the appropriate diet for humans. Right?
This seems like a dogmatic stance. It can tell us what past humans consumed, but does that mean there’s no better way to eat? How is that information more compelling than outcome studies on living humans?
I get that any nutritional study on living humans will have limitations. But that doesn’t render it useless. Or are you saying it does, that the only useful study is a perfect study?
If we use the isotope evidence alongside the fact that we do not have a rumen or a cecum to effectively digest plants then that leaves one option. Studies/Science and propaganda tend to muddy the waters a lot.
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You both should listen to Dr. Jack Kruz. He thinks Dr. Atilla doesn't know a damn thing about the microbiome. And If you both really want to know why don't you ask the ET's since they created us and they should know the best food for humans to eat.
No one knows anything about the micro biome or what is a normal biome. All just guessing based on nonsense biases. My guts don’t stink anymore - that’s all the evidence I need. I don’t fart constantly and no longer smell like a landfill (like when I ate plants).
Someone on Barts channel recently said that Peter is in a lawsuit because he did not get paid for… Am guessing paid for lying!
Do you really need a study to tell you that eating less over a lifetime - with food quality held constant and minimum nutrition requirements met - will prolong life? A car driven for less km is obv going to be in better condition than one driven double that.
They are all wasting our time in the name of science, it's simple as you said
I do.... Why is eating less significant in longevity? I'd say that animals including us ate until we were full anytime we caught food. Your logic sounds weird to me. Also, taking in food isn't the same as expending energy for a car. One example is input of fuel, and one is output of energy.
@@zenamatthews9380 way to go missing the point
@@tektako I get your point, I disagree. Why do you think that eating less is good? Let alone intuitive 🤷
@@zenamatthews9380 you dont get the point at all - whose digestive system is ij better shape, a newborn baby’s or that of a 50yo person whose system has been given a solid workout over a lifetime?
If someone is starving he’ll eat anything. Bottom line most of these discussions are about egotism and self promotion. That’s the truth.
We aren’t starving. What’s your point?
My point is that with gastric bypass surgery or glipizide or exercising to exhaustion every day are sufficient for a person to do a caloric deficit and that alone is sufficient to prevent most diseases.
@ Good luck with that then. I’d add the kind of food is important. Our food is fatty beef and eggs. Exclude plants and especially grains and nuts.
@@BeefNEggs057 Well, I am following a semi-vegetarian(fowl and fish occasionally) and definitely consider dairy and eggs to be a pretty much toxic food. I would eat them if I could actually see the chicken laying the eggs and the cow grazing in the grass, but we all know this isn't reality anymore and this stuff is a long term disaster for our health. You think that there are no long term effect of the so called "carnivore diet" well, I personally know 4 men, all in their late-40s who got heart attacks eating that way. 3 dead, and the surviving one is now eating soup and vegetables. Everything has consequences, and you can't exercise your way out of this either....None of their death certificates state their "diet" either.
I appreciate ever better information, but I do think a discussion with Peter Attia directly would yield a more fair assessment of him. I guess there's a purpose to doing it this way, but it smacks of ganging up on him. Sorry, I love your content, but in my mind no one deserves to be picked apart like this from a distance. Thanks for what you all do, just felt like I needed to say this.
Attia wouldn’t come on carnivore channels. That’s why. He also only talks on “establishment friendly” channels where he doesn’t have to defend his indefensible positions. He’s a paid shill for the medical establishment to sell pills for big pharma. He can’t defend his nonsense.