This cut out one of the best parts. The discussion of, and Cara's reaction to, the mention of the childhood violence against her and why she didn't want to have kids.
What's a bit sloppy about this scene is that calling her Starbuck is in no way a giveaway. She's supposed to be in a resistance hospital, with Anders and Helo probably around somewhere, plus plenty of other people that heard Helo call her Starbuck. The doctor could've easily overheard it, and called her Starbuck for a bit of extra patient rapport.
It's a giveaway when none of those people who know her ever come to visit. The only person she talks to is the doctor, the only one she sees is the doctor, and she had no personal identification on her. The only way that doctor (to her mind) would know her callsign is if he was either with the resistance (in which case 'someone' would have come to see her), or a Cylon that knew of her.
@@Gwydion_Wolf she could have said that and asked where her friends were. She could have just gotten up and discovered the truth when doc was away. Thin hunch to kill someone over.
@@TheBooban in a war, the only things soldiers can count on are their fellow soldiers, and their own instincts. Her instints told her that if any of her friends were there, they would have come to see her at some point, even if it meant wearing a suit to protect against 'contamination' of sorts.
@@TheBooban Well, that wasn't the only hint. What this vid also cut out was that after Starbuck pinched the IV, she snuck out and caught Simon talking to a number Six and THAT was the big giveaway. Don't know why they cut that scene out of this video.
She was probably pretty suspicious already and this just cemented it in her mind. She was one of a few in the series that always went with her gut feeling more than bodies of evidence.
Ok, One...in the state she was in and as delirious she was, how does she know she didn't tell them what her call-sign was when they brought her in? She obviously didn't know where/when/who, so she probably wasn't coherent when she was brought in...but she knows she didn't tell anyone her call-sign? And if they were supposed to be 'Resistance', then they would probably have asked or known her call-sign. Two...no Centurions around guarding the place? Just using keys to lock doors? Why even bother with keys? They had control of the planet by this point (well, except for the Resistance), which you would figure, if this was an important operation involving child-baring women, as it appears to be, no defensive measures taken by the Cylons? Three...she was there for a while and they just >happen< to attack the same day she escapes? Convenient plot device is convenient. And who the hell shot Simon from >that far away
Not sure if she ever told anyone her call sign. The Resistance knew she and Helo were Viper pilots since they encountered them first when they were still wearing their jock smocks. An unknown aid station probably wouldnt have known she was a pilot since she wasnt dressed as one when she was brought in. I dont think her dogtags wouldve identified her as a Viper pilot either.
@@nightcoregalore1200 Doesn't make sense, they're not intubated, breathing normally, not anaesthetised. They are on no form of life support, it's just a plot thing ;)
It's because it was a badly written show, I mean it's just our civilization, our technology level, they have our cars and guns, they even smoke. The only difference is there's star ships and robots, it makes no sense, the colonies were super advanced before the fall. But I bet that saved lots of money in production costs.
@@MDLi0n Much to the contrary, it's extremely realistic. Technological levels aren't the same across an entire civilisation - today we have spaceships travelling to Mars while there are people living in slums without running water, we have hospitals performing robotic surgery and hospitals that don't even have an X-ray, we have people driving self-driving Teslas and others driving old timers from the 1950s. I'm writing this on a MacBook, that is sitting next to a stack of pencils. Any sci-fi that portrays a completely even level of technology across all cultures and classes is completely unrealistic. And if you understood anything about plasma and laser weapons, you'd realise that they are completely unrealistic as small arms. The Expanse, another sci-fi show widely lauded for its realism, is just the same. Normal guns, cars, some people living in old farm houses ...
was the entirety of the resistance on Caprica evacuated or killed? I wonder if any humans remained there after the war ended. What about the Cylons there for that matter? what happened with them after the war?
Always wondered the same thing. And what about human and cylon presence on the other 11 colonies. Plus when the war ends the cylons are very much still around, along with the centurion basestar
The Cylons gave up the colonies and left for good, and the resistance was evacuated. I assume that some small groups or single individuals may have survived in places shielded from radiation, like cave systems or bunkers, but overall the colonies were left behind by both cylons and humans.
The one thing odd about this scene. It's pretty clear Kara doesn't trust the "doctor" from the beginning. Why would she allow him to do a gynecological exam on her?
Thing is, i sort have wonder if the human farm was somewhat based off the Thelixu from the Dune books who you later find out when their women hit puberty, the males lobotomize the females and use them purely as clone farms
Enjoyed the series hated the stupid illogical ending [the writers clearly had no idea what they were doing at the series finale] of humanity going stone-age primitive lifestyle. Hours later the first idiot Luddites then realizing the wildlife would eat them an dying of dysentery an other diseases died horrible deaths.
Previously the people couldn't get along at all, forming factions over every question. But suddenly everyone agree to leave behind their entire lifestyle and bang rocks together without complaints. The ending was horrible, I loved the series, but the ending made me forget most of it.
Very true !! i would ask the writers if they would consider going primitive in today's modern world. There was no chance in hell that humans would give up thousands of years of technological advancement and all the knowledge that has been accumulated in science just to be stranded on a world and start from scratch and that we would hold no hard feelings towards the robots considering they killed 50 billion humans !! haaa !!!
BSG ending was a quiet "meh" whereas GoT was more like "lel wtf" or "TRASH!". Colony battle was nice but also stupidly illogical, either the front door would have had better weapons covering it or not at all since it was literally years away from the 12 colonies. BSG narrative was stupid yes as they had a "fresh start" from finding paradise Earth, no need to go full failure mode and throw all that nice technology in the bin. The Colonials wouldn't have lasted long with zero provisions and zero tech, like most of us wouldn't if we were dropped into the wilderness.
The whole show was just bad in my opinion. The colonies were very advanced, far more advanced than we are today. Technologically superior and an ancient culture who had fought several interplanetary wars. What you see on screen is us with spaceships and robots. They shot guns we use, they drive cars like we drive, they even smoke. It's just badly written with zero effort to portray an advanced society, if you remove the space battle's and the robot scene's you'd have a drama set on earth and modern humans and that's basically what it is. That's what put me off all those years ago. The original series did a better job telling the story in the 70s, they actually felt like a different culture with a more advanced society and it actually made sense. The one thing I did like was the idea of repeated cycle's of humans creating cylons and cylons becoming 'human' and creating cylon slaves and the uprising, rebellion and wars that kept happening. That was interesting.
That's not a doctor. It's a Goa'uld who was posing as a Jaffa rebel leader! He tried to kill Teal'c
Or The Alpha Vampire
Oh the snaps
I'm a doctor, not a parasite that lives in bipeds!
He's a busy man, what wirh also chasing after the Serenity
Was that a Imhotep?
I appreciate the amount of colour grading they did for other planets so that everything didn't see feel like it was shot outside Vancouver.
EnigmaticPenguin Unlike Stargate.
yes I noticed that. Caprica, gold. Kobol, green. New Caprica, brown.
Planet Canada! Yeah, I always wanted them to visit a world with either deserts, arctic, or tropical climates.
@@cqtaylor Starbuck most definitely visited a desert planet when she hijacked the downed raider
@@kabob0077 lol true! Every planet looked the same in that show
This cut out one of the best parts. The discussion of, and Cara's reaction to, the mention of the childhood violence against her and why she didn't want to have kids.
"Can I leave?"
"there's the door."
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What's a bit sloppy about this scene is that calling her Starbuck is in no way a giveaway. She's supposed to be in a resistance hospital, with Anders and Helo probably around somewhere, plus plenty of other people that heard Helo call her Starbuck. The doctor could've easily overheard it, and called her Starbuck for a bit of extra patient rapport.
It's a giveaway when none of those people who know her ever come to visit. The only person she talks to is the doctor, the only one she sees is the doctor, and she had no personal identification on her. The only way that doctor (to her mind) would know her callsign is if he was either with the resistance (in which case 'someone' would have come to see her), or a Cylon that knew of her.
@@Gwydion_Wolf she could have said that and asked where her friends were. She could have just gotten up and discovered the truth when doc was away. Thin hunch to kill someone over.
@@TheBooban in a war, the only things soldiers can count on are their fellow soldiers, and their own instincts.
Her instints told her that if any of her friends were there, they would have come to see her at some point, even if it meant wearing a suit to protect against 'contamination' of sorts.
@@TheBooban Well, that wasn't the only hint. What this vid also cut out was that after Starbuck pinched the IV, she snuck out and caught Simon talking to a number Six and THAT was the big giveaway. Don't know why they cut that scene out of this video.
I thought this was an attempt by the Cylons to clone a "Starbuck/Cylon skin job."
Jeez the call sign as a give away, she could have been delirious.
She was probably pretty suspicious already and this just cemented it in her mind. She was one of a few in the series that always went with her gut feeling more than bodies of evidence.
"Hi! I'm Simon the Cylon!"
Ok, One...in the state she was in and as delirious she was, how does she know she didn't tell them what her call-sign was when they brought her in? She obviously didn't know where/when/who, so she probably wasn't coherent when she was brought in...but she knows she didn't tell anyone her call-sign? And if they were supposed to be 'Resistance', then they would probably have asked or known her call-sign.
Two...no Centurions around guarding the place? Just using keys to lock doors? Why even bother with keys? They had control of the planet by this point (well, except for the Resistance), which you would figure, if this was an important operation involving child-baring women, as it appears to be, no defensive measures taken by the Cylons?
Three...she was there for a while and they just >happen< to attack the same day she escapes? Convenient plot device is convenient. And who the hell shot Simon from >that far away
The Centurions show up right as this clip ends. They however get mowed down by a resistance Heavy Raider
Not sure if she ever told anyone her call sign. The Resistance knew she and Helo were Viper pilots since they encountered them first when they were still wearing their jock smocks. An unknown aid station probably wouldnt have known she was a pilot since she wasnt dressed as one when she was brought in. I dont think her dogtags wouldve identified her as a Viper pilot either.
Wait, why does cutting the power kill them, and how does Starbuck know that?
all on artificial life support
@@nightcoregalore1200 Doesn't make sense, they're not intubated, breathing normally, not anaesthetised. They are on no form of life support, it's just a plot thing ;)
@@AGH331 TV show magic.
It's because it was a badly written show, I mean it's just our civilization, our technology level, they have our cars and guns, they even smoke. The only difference is there's star ships and robots, it makes no sense, the colonies were super advanced before the fall.
But I bet that saved lots of money in production costs.
@@MDLi0n Much to the contrary, it's extremely realistic. Technological levels aren't the same across an entire civilisation - today we have spaceships travelling to Mars while there are people living in slums without running water, we have hospitals performing robotic surgery and hospitals that don't even have an X-ray, we have people driving self-driving Teslas and others driving old timers from the 1950s. I'm writing this on a MacBook, that is sitting next to a stack of pencils.
Any sci-fi that portrays a completely even level of technology across all cultures and classes is completely unrealistic. And if you understood anything about plasma and laser weapons, you'd realise that they are completely unrealistic as small arms.
The Expanse, another sci-fi show widely lauded for its realism, is just the same. Normal guns, cars, some people living in old farm houses ...
was the entirety of the resistance on Caprica evacuated or killed? I wonder if any humans remained there after the war ended.
What about the Cylons there for that matter? what happened with them after the war?
Always wondered the same thing. And what about human and cylon presence on the other 11 colonies. Plus when the war ends the cylons are very much still around, along with the centurion basestar
The Cylons gave up the colonies and left for good, and the resistance was evacuated. I assume that some small groups or single individuals may have survived in places shielded from radiation, like cave systems or bunkers, but overall the colonies were left behind by both cylons and humans.
i cant even remember this...
begs for a rewatch of the the series xD
Start of Season two I think.
I don’t remember this either.. Hmm, maybe it is time to watch the series again.
Seems like a tough thing to forget.
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Gotta watch the whole series. This stuff has gone undetected for too long. And where's the movie?
Peacock tv
Doesn't look liked they moved forward with The Crisis. Movie.
wow !
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Winner of the year.
The one thing odd about this scene. It's pretty clear Kara doesn't trust the "doctor" from the beginning. Why would she allow him to do a gynecological exam on her?
@Johnny Dominguez Lol, I wonder if Apollo ever figured that out?
She can't let him know she doesn't trust him. If she tried to fight it, then what?
Don't kink shame!!! 😀
Yes.
I watch this now and see Dean Fog from The Magicians
What's the comic on the table next to her bed?
It's new and looks good.
The Simons always died horribly.
They need to start talking and getting it together.
Thing is, i sort have wonder if the human farm was somewhat based off the Thelixu from the Dune books who you later find out when their women hit puberty, the males lobotomize the females and use them purely as clone farms
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Seeing the women hooked up was horrifying, and then calling them “farms” as well, frak this
That was Emilia.
Let her talk.
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Enjoyed the series hated the stupid illogical ending [the writers clearly had no idea what they were doing at the series finale] of humanity going stone-age primitive lifestyle. Hours later the first idiot Luddites then realizing the wildlife would eat them an dying of dysentery an other diseases died horrible deaths.
Yeah, it really was stupid.
Previously the people couldn't get along at all, forming factions over every question. But suddenly everyone agree to leave behind their entire lifestyle and bang rocks together without complaints. The ending was horrible, I loved the series, but the ending made me forget most of it.
Very true !! i would ask the writers if they would consider going primitive in today's modern world. There was no chance in hell that humans would give up thousands of years of technological advancement and all the knowledge that has been accumulated in science just to be stranded on a world and start from scratch and that we would hold no hard feelings towards the robots considering they killed 50 billion humans !! haaa !!!
BSG ending was a quiet "meh" whereas GoT was more like "lel wtf" or "TRASH!". Colony battle was nice but also stupidly illogical, either the front door would have had better weapons covering it or not at all since it was literally years away from the 12 colonies. BSG narrative was stupid yes as they had a "fresh start" from finding paradise Earth, no need to go full failure mode and throw all that nice technology in the bin. The Colonials wouldn't have lasted long with zero provisions and zero tech, like most of us wouldn't if we were dropped into the wilderness.
The whole show was just bad in my opinion.
The colonies were very advanced, far more advanced than we are today. Technologically superior and an ancient culture who had fought several interplanetary wars.
What you see on screen is us with spaceships and robots.
They shot guns we use, they drive cars like we drive, they even smoke.
It's just badly written with zero effort to portray an advanced society, if you remove the space battle's and the robot scene's you'd have a drama set on earth and modern humans and that's basically what it is.
That's what put me off all those years ago. The original series did a better job telling the story in the 70s, they actually felt like a different culture with a more advanced society and it actually made sense.
The one thing I did like was the idea of repeated cycle's of humans creating cylons and cylons becoming 'human' and creating cylon slaves and the uprising, rebellion and wars that kept happening. That was interesting.
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