I do love this scene. Baltar is not a brave man. it may even be fair to call him a coward. but boy, does he have a well developed survival instinct. Whatever it takes for HIM to survive, he will generally do it in the moment.
I love the brief moment of Chief Tyrol looking at the gun with a "What the Frak did I load in this thing." stupor until he realizes the Raptors are behind him.
Wounded chief: fires a pistol at a tank (I mean, centurions are basically miniature tanks) Tank: blows up because of air support The only thing missing here was a dying crashdown being like: "you earned it"
Yeah though the episode title Fragged is a reference to in the Vietnam war, that disenfranchised US troops would sometimes straight up assassinate disliked or incompetent officers.
@@usul573 Gotta say that must be the best way too keep your officers in check! They will be competent if their life is on the line xD and if not they will get "replaced" by someone who is better
This is an intense scene, I've rewatched it a few times already! The sheer firepower of the centurions with their automatic weapons always blows me away (and the humans too haha).
This is my favorite scene of Aaron Douglas (Chief Tyrol) and Jamie Bamber (Apollo). The adrenaline craze of the chief as he fights to survive and the contrast of calm from Apollo
Wait even if the two Cylons stayed at the dish why not attack the dish? You would have less Cylons to fight and have them out numbered. All you would need to do is take out the 2 Plus the Dish. Or just the Dish then fall back to a defendable position till the Raptors Arrive. You don't need to go after the launcher at all. Why did they? And yes I know Crash Down has gone section 8 but still?
the timing would've been very close. It would take at least 5 mins to get to the dish, 1km away in thick woodland. And then they'd still have to destroy it.
@@stonem0013 I'm just saying before that you don't need to attack the launcher. forget the hump back to the dish if you attack the dish from the start you don't need to attack the launcher.
@Dead Planet you shgould watch the episode... Him being a terrible commander taking on a mission he does not have the troops for is the whole point of this scene, and his arc on Kobol. There are no other troops he could have ordered to do this. He was a terrible leader, and was fragged because of it.
Yep just promoting Peacock and the new BSG series, as well as potentially direct purchases of the BSG episodes. I wonder if any channels do reruns of BSG.
Love this series!!! Always have! Been a true fan since the original! I live the writers of this series! Lots of realism!! I have a crush on Cally! She's cute-without-make-up-cute!
The LT was stupid. He should have known that the Raptors would be able to detect a missile launch, deploy countermeasures, and take out the launcher a lot more efficiently than his ragtag squad could have. It's not like the Raptors didn't know there were Cylons on the surface when they launched from Galactica. They would have had a plan already.
@@DefiantSix While he mostly doesn't seem too bad, after the raptor crashes on Kobol he makes several bad decisions. Hindsight is amazing, but I like the type of storytelling exploring someone who isn't bad, just somewhat incompetent in a difficult situation with hard choices. No one really knows if they are ready for a situation like this until it happens, and he seems to have had decent training. They sure aren't a commando squad with proper preparation for this. The way he ultimately pays for it with his life makes me feel a bit sorry for him.
@@HerbiieIsBest I'm criticising this skills(lack thereof) and competent(more like incompetent) as an officer. I know he's not a marine and I never mentioned at all that he was one.
it was a much better plan. That is what they do in the end - Galen leads them on a mad dash back to the dish (under fire due to the idiotic Lt) and they manage to take it out. 1km is not a huge distance to cover
Depends on how long it takes for Raptor to enter SAM firing range. 1 km takes 5 minutes to run, not to mention rough terrain, injuries, equipment, potential cylon threats. Also the missile, if it has a detector on its own like infrared or radar then even if the radar dish is taken out the raptor will still be shot down
the cylons could not fire Upon Chief he is one of the Five oops.. spoiler alert was off status..// hence the delay...// the delay between the Chief standing Tall and firing a clip.. and the machine heads not hitting his one of the Five asses // thanks for another reminder of the old days.. soon soooooon there may well be another B G.. edward was right the show should have gone ten years../
It 'could have' gone on 10 more years, but with that, there's always a major risk. X-files is kind of an example of what happens when a show goes on and on. The good writers get lost, replaced by poorer writers, network/corporate interference screws things up, etc. If you'd ever read the Sandman series by Neil Gaiman, he illustrated a different reason for ending a good series. He'd fallen out of love with it, and didn't want to drag down the good narrative with problematic add-ons. He chose to end the series instead, and move on to other things that he'd developed love for. BSG 2003 probably ended as well as it could have done, and we have 4 excellent seasons of it to enjoy.
@@jonathanlewis6058 Yes he did. He messed up on how he ordered them from the crash site, how to split up, and the suicidal plan to attack instead of just take out the dish like Chief said. He was about to get them all killed because he failed at leadership, I guarantee it. When Cally froze up because Crashdown ordered her to effectively commit suicide, he aimed at her and was going to kill her which was just going to make things worse, so Baltar shot him to protect her. Maybe if Baltar hadn't dropped his binocs Crashdown might have had more complete info. When he wouldn't listen to reason, it was Crashdown or all of their lives.
@@usul573 he didn't point a gun at his own head and pull the trigger, he didn't jump off a cliff. A subordinate disobeyed an order, which caused an internal conflict and a civilian shot him in the back. Guarantee they all lied about his death in their reports to avoid the court martial... I'm not saying he wasn't incompetent. I'm saying he didn't kill himself ;)
I do love this scene. Baltar is not a brave man. it may even be fair to call him a coward. but boy, does he have a well developed survival instinct. Whatever it takes for HIM to survive, he will generally do it in the moment.
fortunately it overlapped with the right decision in this case!
You mean Gaius Frakking Baltar!
He decided, once again, there was to be no more Mr. Nice Gaius!
I believe that both Kara and Baltar were part of the plan and would always come back as they were in a casual loop or some plan from God.
I love the brief moment of Chief Tyrol looking at the gun with a "What the Frak did I load in this thing." stupor until he realizes the Raptors are behind him.
Just like in Saving Private Ryan.
@@huskergator9479 I was wondering if that was a nod to that film.
the writers watched the last part of private Ryan and were like "yeah, lets do this with Cylons"
Wounded chief: fires a pistol at a tank (I mean, centurions are basically miniature tanks)
Tank: blows up because of air support
The only thing missing here was a dying crashdown being like: "you earned it"
Yeah though the episode title Fragged is a reference to in the Vietnam war, that disenfranchised US troops would sometimes straight up assassinate disliked or incompetent officers.
@@usul573 Yeah, baltar just didn't have a frag nade to *YEET* at crashdown
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Gotta say that must be the best way too keep your officers in check!
They will be competent if their life is on the line xD and if not they will get "replaced" by someone who is better
This is an intense scene, I've rewatched it a few times already! The sheer firepower of the centurions with their automatic weapons always blows me away (and the humans too haha).
Ever wonder about ammo storage on a toaster? Hollow legs maybe?
This is my favorite scene of Aaron Douglas (Chief Tyrol) and Jamie Bamber (Apollo). The adrenaline craze of the chief as he fights to survive and the contrast of calm from Apollo
Great clip. Chief thinks is sidearm is overkill, twice and Bultar gets promoted from Geek to Man. 🤣
Wait even if the two Cylons stayed at the dish why not attack the dish? You would have less Cylons to fight and have them out numbered. All you would need to do is take out the 2 Plus the Dish. Or just the Dish then fall back to a defendable position till the Raptors Arrive. You don't need to go after the launcher at all. Why did they? And yes I know Crash Down has gone section 8 but still?
the timing would've been very close. It would take at least 5 mins to get to the dish, 1km away in thick woodland. And then they'd still have to destroy it.
@@stonem0013 I'm just saying before that you don't need to attack the launcher. forget the hump back to the dish if you attack the dish from the start you don't need to attack the launcher.
They are Aircrew and Maintenance, not Spec Ops, cut them some slack, for frak sake 😂
@@JW-il6iq don't forget Crashdown (Lt) was also just a civilian before the cylon attack (Boomer said it in first episode)
Raptors aren’t pretty but they get the job done ! 👽💚
Star killer with same anger outrage as in force unleashed, epic. Too bad he died too early.
Sam witer can’t not see him as star killer now and maul
Tank Zombie from The Walking Dead.
Also, Sidious in Rebels. As well as the vampire from the Being Human remake.
Excellent story. Real emotions.
@Dead Planet you shgould watch the episode... Him being a terrible commander taking on a mission he does not have the troops for is the whole point of this scene, and his arc on Kobol. There are no other troops he could have ordered to do this. He was a terrible leader, and was fragged because of it.
this show ended years ago...and the channel continues to upload clips
Yep just promoting Peacock and the new BSG series, as well as potentially direct purchases of the BSG episodes. I wonder if any channels do reruns of BSG.
Love this series!!! Always have! Been a true fan since the original! I live the writers of this series! Lots of realism!!
I have a crush on Cally! She's cute-without-make-up-cute!
Isn't this guy like a Jedi? He can't use his force powers?
These gunshot sound effects are so much better than when the cylons get pulse rifle sounds.
6:26 Galen had full control ever hes the man!
Is there anything Battlestar didn't do better than other shows? The intensity here doesn't let go of your throat until the very end.
Excellent and dramatic battle.
I'm ready for the new spinoff
nonsensical squibs aside (at those angles the cylons would have been in the trees and had unobstructed views) i love this sequence.
They have Star killer with them, they can’t lose!
Had. They had Starkiller with them.
He got renamed, though.
Starkilled.
This was written to be a bladerunner prequel. Everything makes a lot more sense
The LT was stupid. He should have known that the Raptors would be able to detect a missile launch, deploy countermeasures, and take out the launcher a lot more efficiently than his ragtag squad could have. It's not like the Raptors didn't know there were Cylons on the surface when they launched from Galactica. They would have had a plan already.
He was smart. The raptors could have been destroyed if he did not take out the dish.
@@common_c3nts no, he was a moron for ignoring Galen's better alternative plan and for leading his unit like a psycho (getting him killed in the end)
Tyrol would've been a much better officer than that fool Crashdown.
He's the classic practical everyman, a little like Miles O'Brien.
"A better officer than Crashdown" isn't exactly a tall hurdle to clear...
@@DefiantSix While he mostly doesn't seem too bad, after the raptor crashes on Kobol he makes several bad decisions. Hindsight is amazing, but I like the type of storytelling exploring someone who isn't bad, just somewhat incompetent in a difficult situation with hard choices. No one really knows if they are ready for a situation like this until it happens, and he seems to have had decent training. They sure aren't a commando squad with proper preparation for this. The way he ultimately pays for it with his life makes me feel a bit sorry for him.
Crashdown's a pilot, not a marine though. So its harsh to criticise him for not being a good marine.
@@HerbiieIsBest I'm criticising this skills(lack thereof) and competent(more like incompetent) as an officer. I know he's not a marine and I never mentioned at all that he was one.
I'm curious. Was it actually a better plan to go back for the dish? I know that the idea is the dish might be unguarded but it was a bit far away.
If they did not take out the dish then the all their ships would have been destroyed.
it was a much better plan. That is what they do in the end - Galen leads them on a mad dash back to the dish (under fire due to the idiotic Lt) and they manage to take it out. 1km is not a huge distance to cover
Depends on how long it takes for Raptor to enter SAM firing range. 1 km takes 5 minutes to run, not to mention rough terrain, injuries, equipment, potential cylon threats. Also the missile, if it has a detector on its own like infrared or radar then even if the radar dish is taken out the raptor will still be shot down
And I thought I have a problem with zoning out :D
Ooh I remember
Watching a football game on the TV as well.
i love this scene
Yo is that star killer
A lot here I didn't recall
The Chief was right. I would have changed my orders and gone for the dish. It's only a Km.
Cally died with Crashdown for me.. couldn't stand her anymore
Should have used the force
the cylons could not fire Upon Chief he is one of the Five oops.. spoiler alert was off status..// hence the delay...// the delay between the Chief standing Tall and firing a clip.. and the machine heads not hitting his one of the Five asses // thanks for another reminder of the old days.. soon soooooon there may well be another B G.. edward was right the show should have gone ten years../
It 'could have' gone on 10 more years, but with that, there's always a major risk. X-files is kind of an example of what happens when a show goes on and on. The good writers get lost, replaced by poorer writers, network/corporate interference screws things up, etc.
If you'd ever read the Sandman series by Neil Gaiman, he illustrated a different reason for ending a good series. He'd fallen out of love with it, and didn't want to drag down the good narrative with problematic add-ons. He chose to end the series instead, and move on to other things that he'd developed love for.
BSG 2003 probably ended as well as it could have done, and we have 4 excellent seasons of it to enjoy.
they lobotomised the centurions so they could not remember...but the raiders were not, those did retreated when detected someone from the five.
Relax.
I love you.
Gius!
Lol, 😭😂
😎
manifest destiny
Fracking Callie...
ikr.. it all would have gone as planned if she wasnt all 'i caaaaaant'..
I'll never forgive Cally for Crashdown's death.
Crashdown killed himself with his incompetence.
@@usul573 BS!
@@jonathanlewis6058 Yes he did. He messed up on how he ordered them from the crash site, how to split up, and the suicidal plan to attack instead of just take out the dish like Chief said. He was about to get them all killed because he failed at leadership, I guarantee it. When Cally froze up because Crashdown ordered her to effectively commit suicide, he aimed at her and was going to kill her which was just going to make things worse, so Baltar shot him to protect her. Maybe if Baltar hadn't dropped his binocs Crashdown might have had more complete info. When he wouldn't listen to reason, it was Crashdown or all of their lives.
@@usul573 he didn't point a gun at his own head and pull the trigger, he didn't jump off a cliff.
A subordinate disobeyed an order, which caused an internal conflict and a civilian shot him in the back.
Guarantee they all lied about his death in their reports to avoid the court martial...
I'm not saying he wasn't incompetent. I'm saying he didn't kill himself ;)
He deserved it. There would have been no court martial. He went nuts and was not fit for command.
Baltar is a weak man
I would've liked to see girl on girl action between Seelix and Cally.
Was für ein undiziplierter Haufen von Looser.
Cally was a horrible character and actress