The problem with 90% of the people Mark interviews is a lack of love when they were kids. If you don’t get any love when you were younger, you’re gonna have lifelong problems. Whether that’s drugs or sex work or whatever. It’s down to people having children when they aren’t up to the task at hand.
Nailed it. Imo this seems to be the overall message that we should derive from his work and we should be taking this all into serious consideration. Marks podcast - Soft White Underbelly is a channel that I would implore everyone to take a deep dive on, discuss among their peers, and start making steps by whatever moral means necessary to start introducing programs or whatever we can as a collective to end this tragic cycle of perpetual, generational trauma ☹️💔🙏
Well I was loved very much by my family. But the neighbor felt like molesting a 6 yr old for a yr and didn't say shit till I was older. Trying to get on his interview currently.. I've had a wild fn life so far.
I honestly don't know how he does it. I recently started helping a homeless girl. Honestly in part due to being inspired by this guy. Its absolutely heart breaking hearing her stories. I managed to get her into housing and employed in only a couple weeks. It cost me less than a hundred bucks. She told me I was literally the only stranger she met who helped her. It broke my heart when she told me that.
"You can't fix childhood", that hit me. 😢 It will always hurt... it's a daily struggle. I wish I could erase certain parts of the cassette tape in my head. I love watching SWU, makes me feel that I'm not alone. Thank you Mark...
Hey I know I'm just 1 out of 8 billion, but I'm sorry. I'm sorry you hurt, I'm sorry things weren't better. We get 1 shot at life, Live, love, laugh. Jesse
Exactly. I’m 50 and still strongly affected by the hurtful words and things said and done to me in childhood, by my mother and the kids at school and even a few others. my self esteem is still tanked. Hard to get over.
Just lost my mom 2 weeks ago I can't explain my sadness! She was so beautiful in so many ways! I will never forget the impact she had on me. She accepted me NO MATTER WHAT THATS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE!!
I’m sorry to hear that man. But you’re right that is unconditional love. And I don’t think many people get to experience it. It’s a really beautiful thing
I just finished the interview with Brian who became snowblind on Everest... I've been a fan of Marks channel for a few years. I find it interesting to learn about people and their lives. My heart goes out to most of them... This world needs a lot of love .. Thanks Joe for having him on.
I have been addicted to SWU since I watched a video a couple of years ago. It really helped me understand why people do the things they do and for the most part it’s childhood trauma from SA and incest. It’s horrifying to imagine how many kids deal with this on the daily. I was an empathetic person but am way more so now. Thank you Mark for the work you do. Making the world understand the forgotten people in our society.
Soft white underbelly is THE best source of looking at the state of the now in the face in a unbiased and open manner. It deserves every success. It is wonderful work being done.
A follower of SoftWhite Underbelly for years now. All the different walks of life. Most interviews start with where are you from and did you have both parents in your life. That's where it starts. Mark gives all these people a voice to tell their story.
“People define themselves as their lowest point” YUP. Mark does amazing work and I’ve enjoyed watching his channel for years now. It absolutely influenced my decision to pursue psych nursing.
Mark you got me with your mom!!! And yes she would very PROUD of you!! She raised an exceptional REAL empathetic human being!!! Much respect to you and keep doing what you do!! Thanks for trying to make people open their eyes to a major issue in society with perspective to mental health issues!!!!
I’ve been watching Mark for about 3.5 years now. Couldn’t believe how raw yet how empathetic he interviewed his participants. Never seen anything so honest. Would you consider stories that are uplifting, coming from terrible to surpassing challenges and coming out the other side with success. Those people that should be our heroes to the next generation.
"There is no aftercare. He didn’t talk to me before the interview or after. He just rolled the camera and when it was done, he said it was too long. I apologized and told him to cut or edit whatever he wants. I left crying and feeling used. But that’s LA I guess." - From the interviewee of a recent episode 'Horror House'
Mark has a big heart, and I relate with being curious about people's stories. I try to give grace to people knowing they could be a victim of horrible abuse, and nobody knows it, and they think nobody cares!
I got told at my work... Go listen to Joe Rogan (because I loved talk back), I never did, but I love Mark Latta, he has never drank/smoked/or drugs, he is.... NEXT LEVEL, a forgiving soul
The interesting and refreshing thing about Mark is he has no complaints about his life. He brags on his parents & upbringing. He does not complain about any aspect of his life. No drugs. No PTSD. No depression or anxiety. A guy who has had a very good life who can still empathize with people from the most bizarre backgrounds.
Yeah, that’s the part that is wild to me. Most people that empathize with the “lowest class” of society have some personal experience with it. Whether that’s themselves, or family, they know it firsthand. Mark is like a Ken doll. Perfect upbringing, perfect career, perfect family. And he still finds a way to connect with these people. It amazes me.
We really REALLY don’t - watch the piece on him by bj investigates then come back and tell me what a national treasure you think he is…trust me he is an awful person
I was on a Grand Jury a couple years ago and had to hear about a man that raped his daughter and her friends that came to visit. This man is still freaking walking around in the community!!
Unbelievable. Far as I’m concerned, the punishment they should give him, if they’re not going to throw him in prison, they should make sure the community he lives in know what he did. The shit he’ll get from the populace will more than make up for his lack of prison!
I think people in communities know when kids are being abused, you can tell by looking at them, most of the time. People turn their heads and ignore it.
I used to walk my kids to school everyday and pick them up . There were a few kids id see everyday that clearly should've been looked into.. when I was a teen in the 90s, my school was all over my parents over everything when they both worked full-time and didn't have time for the BS if myself and the school.. today I see kids slipping through the cracks right in front of everyone! If I were a teacher, and saw a kid coming to class everyday wearing the same clothes for months, I'd be reaching out to the parents! My son once had a friend that followed us home after school and I had no clue where he lived or who his parents were. Luckily the school called because someone saw him follow us home, and connected me to the dad, who took hours before he came and got his son!
One is enough. Chill. Love is key. From parental figures. A Mom, Dad, Grandma, Aunt, Uncle, Adoptive parent, Older sibling etc. Just love. Knowing you are loved.
I understand how you feel after seeing so much mental or physical trauma. I am an ER nurse since 16 years and i feel tired mentally too. The disease of your patient transpose to your body
Mark’s content has helped me realize i am so much stronger than i think. I got so close to being where most of the people he interviews are. Thank you for showing reality 🙏
one thing i admire about mark is he never talks over the person hes interviewing he lets them tell their story with minimal questions so its nice to hear his
Unconditional love. I think Marks momma did a mighty fine job of raising him by showing him what unconditional love is. What if everone had unconditional love. It will never happen. But what if?
Thats what God is for. I wish everyone could fill their God size hole w His love instead of drugs, sex, adrenaline, drama, money, etc. The world would be full of love because God is love.
@@meavia2053thanks for being receptive, The lord loves us all ❤ Nothing can separate the love he has for us. We can’t change the world and quite frankly it isn’t our burden to.❤
I truly believe that offering hope and showing gentle care over a period of time will help and encourage people who are struggling, while maybe nurturing some self-belief. Admittedly there are some people who will just abuse help and kindness. I have watched Marks videos for many years now, and he is such a kind, patient soul. I have seen Mark learn - or at least show that we can't fix people. However we can walk with them in their shoes from time to time, and this is what Mark does so superbly whilst supporting their plight, raising awareness and this is very special indeed. Huge high five for this. ❤
Discovered Mark on TH-cam with the West Virginia family who lives in Appalachia. Family extremely poor, illiterate, and history of incest. He still follows the family and helps them financially. This man has a heart of gold. He just has to watch out that his kindness is not perceived as a weakness . Good man.
Im a recovery addict of 10+ yrs, not ALL addicts are suffering from mental health or had trauma as a child. Some just have addiction in their DNA, learned behavior maybe. My Grandmother was a alcoholic, my mother is a alcoholic, and I was a addict of opioids. I had a great childhood and no trauma just hung around the wrong crowd during a low point in my life.
it's so complex, I'm a recovering addict myself and there are so many unhelpful stereotypes. I truly hope your winning the fight, I'm on methadone after a treacherous 20 years of opiates started with a prescription and graduated to opium then heroin and illicit pills from India.
What a great interview. I have tremendous respect for Mark Laita, all that he has achieved and his thoughts/insights. One comment mentioned Mark's wear and tear on himself. Anyone pursuing extremely impassioned paths such as Mark's work with society's down trodden, will realize there are costs to one's heart, mind, body and soul. The ultimate challenge is to establish and maintain boundaries and compartmentalization to stay "on the sane side of the tracks." This could well include a point at which one would need to "retire" for personal salvation. I know this from personal experience from years of extreme animal rescue. At one point, the toll on me personally was crippling beyond repair and I had to pass the torch.
This episode has been nothing short of inspirational. It gave me hope to see people talking about what I'm always thinking about. Things have to change at ground level because "You can't fix a childhood". Thanks Mark and Joe!!
I’m 55 and have known since I was 8 that I was molested/abused. However I was also told I was loved, so for a child so young it’s impossible to process the abuse because children focus on whatever love they get. I have gone to different therapists/psychiatrist my entire adult life. In my early 20s a Psychiatrist who I told about abuse, told me I was irrational and prescribed me Prozac. (This Psychiatrist was a family friend) hind sight is 20/20. My mother taught me self hate. In junior high school I was given 2 dexatrim capsules and a can of Sego ( disgusting diet shake) in a can. I was 12, and had complained to my mother that someone I went to school with teased me about being chubby. Etc, etc, not one time could I understand the disconnect as a child, because I wanted to believe my mother loved me. Anyway at 55 I did mushrooms and boom I realized abuse and love are not the same!
I feel like not only does your channel help bring awareness and hopefully bring some sort of help to your interviewees, but it also makes people who are in or were in those same situations, not feel so alone.
Yes to what you said, Mark, it is important for people to know about the story behind people so we learn for our own families, but also to have compassion and awareness. So much hurt these people have endured. It is heartbreaking.
But people admire the very wealthy. Musk; Peterson ; Oprah ; Trump: Andrew Tate to name but a few. It’s never they admire nurses; doctors; teachers; police officers or firefighters. It’s terribly sad. How do we overcome that ?
@@aileenmac1 many people admire wealth because we’ve been trapped in a system that puts money above almost anything else. In my experience, lots of people admire the selfless acts of others in the form of teachers and such. It’s not as apparent if we watch tv or social media, but that’s because those institutions are captured by the same elite that want us to worship money and not compassion. We overcome this by seeking the truth, discovering it for ourselves, and putting out into the world the changes we want to see. It’s a never ending challenge because we are going against the grain of modern society. Changes are coming if we work hard together to create a new paradigm. They need to come or we will perish.
@@aileenmac1 Who the fuck admires Trump or Tate? Tate is a digital pimp that blew up on Tik Tok... He's a product of the brainless public swiping reals and eating brainless content. His stance on the world is so bent backwards that it's scary how many young people actually eat it whole and believe it. And Trump, I don't even know where to begin... It's just a sign of how degraded and unintelligent we have become as a society. If those are our idols today, I'm terrified of tomorrow...
1:19:42 Mark, I'm sorry for the irreparable loss of your beloved mother. The way you spoke about her moved me. It is the way I speak about my father, whom I also lost in recent years. How fortunate we are to have known the unconditional love of a parent. It is likely the most important relationship one can have-parent and child. Please listen to yourself and move towards work that won't take a toll on your health. God bless.
What Mark does is unique. He has the ability to build rapport with people on all levels, without prejudice. I can't imagine the personal impact these people and their life stories of pain and suffering, must have on one's psyche. Heartbreaking. He continues to give us an insight into the lives of ordinary people which is not only compelling, emotionally charged but also very awesome inspiring. He deserves our thanks because these stories can't but help make us as individuals appreciate what we have and be grateful for every little thing. Thank you.
I was widely anticipating these two having a “chat”. Mark, you are an amazing individual. I began watching Soft White Underbelly back in 2019. Joe, thanks for having Mark on your show! 3:42
The night stalker (Richard Ramirez) also stayed in the Cecil Hotel. Elisa Lam was the girl who was found in the water tank. Tragic for her and her family. Rest in Peace.
I love how Mark loves his mother!!! I feel like my son and I have that kind of relationship. All my kids were great, even though I know I wasn't a perfect mom. They know I love them unconditionally! We are under attack by the people that hate God and family, and I'm thankful my family are still intact.
18:32 so true!! I'm a retired social worker and the people I know who got clean didn't do it with treatment, they just woke up one day and decided they couldn't live that life anymore. Treatment is a revolving door and a HUGE money pit.
@@BeBoppin2000 You would be correct in that assumption. If the organization you work for is a religious one; just make sure you check yourself consistently and regularly. Even if you feel the need not to. Doubly so, even. It's not pretty, but the main culprits of this specific issue are religious organizations.
I decided to get clean on my own but I never would have gotten on my feet without treatment so there's great programs out there that help if they want it. Otherwise there's no point.
Been following Mark's work on SWU for a few years. Mark - your work is SO important. Please keep going. Joe - thanks for talking with him and getting to know what's behind the curtain.
I love Soft White Underbelly and all the work Mark is doing shinning a lite on a horrible reality so many people are trying to survive through. I can relate to some of those people because I used to be a drug addict. My life has been a shit show but I have realized my self worth and am fighting to work every day for the good life I feel like I deserve. It took my love for a cat who needed me to pull me out of the darkness. I have taken in many homeless cats since, its what keeps me going even though I struggle to afford it, I just continue to survive. ❤ God Bless yall 🙏🏼 I Pray for all who are broken. You do matter, you are needed, and you deserve better!!!
What people don't understand is that Mark is a artist, his work is beautiful and terrifying, but it's real. He's shining a light on the problems and issues right under our noses. Sure, it's going to make you uncomfortable but that is the point of his work. It's supposed to make you feel. His whole TH-cam channel is a artist gallery filled with stories of life. He's doing what the rich and politicians don't do. He's going out of his way to show how life is for a good portion of your country. The things he shows in his videos is so real it is starkly different from all the other content on TH-cam which makes it, unique and honestly amazing and nobody else can do what he does. Because he's an artist and his whole personality is aligned with this work. He's willing to literally risk his life for this art. He doesn't have to save the people who need the help, because that isn't the point and the people who get interviewed and photographed by him know that going in, he's truly one of the best political artists of our time. The people who don't understand why he doesn't help doesn't understand his project. Mark, truly you're an amazing person and your work is saving lives, and waking people up to the reality of what life really is. Thank you.
Living in Chicago and Portland over the last 5 years, seeing the vast homeless always makes me wonder "how did they get there? Why?" Most people assume "drugs" and "mental illness"... sure, but there's still a person there dealing with those issues. Homelessness, poverty, crime, sex work... they're results of drugs and mental issues, not symptoms. Laita's channel, for me, isn't exploitation as much as it is bravery to start a conversation i wish i had. It's fostering empathy and understanding, which is the best remedy to today's assumptions and hate for those who are outside the norm/ acceptable reality of current western society. Without understanding, we'll never solve anything. We'll just kick the can down the road, wasting time and resources doing what we THINK is best. Thanks, Mark! Keep up the good work, and stay brave with love ❤
Mark's interview with Logan, who survived the skydiving accident was the first video of Mark's that I watched. It really stuck with me. I think about that interview at least a couple times a week. The part that I never expected was that he was so grateful and optimistic, even after what happened to him.
It fascinates me that both of you grew up in big cities, and live and big cities. I grew up in rural Alabama, and now at 55 back in the woods of Alabama. I haven't ever been out of the south until May when my husband and I drove to Cheyenne, Wyoming to visit our son, he and his wife were having their first baby. It was amazing seeing places I've never seen, even though Nebraska had nothing to see. lol
I have followed Mark’s channel since Covid 2020. He is a great man and has brought so much awareness to why / how there is so much mental illness. I am grateful for my parents.
Most, if not all, of humanity's problems were solved in this interview. These men are sharing great wisdom that seems to be forgotten in the "modern" era.
He already has. Death threats, attempted extortion… I can’t recall the young lady’s name right now, but she was interviewed a couple of times alone. Mark talks about her pimp doing this to him… Wildly, after being interviewed alongside said girl by Mark.
Exactly. The type of persons he interviews have childhoods and lives that can foster sociopathy. I’m sure that some of the people he’s interviewed DO have sociopathy. Hopefully he has personal protection at all interviews and at home, and takes precautions to avoid stalking and blackmail.
Mark, you're an ethnographer. A self-made very accomplished creative communicator of American cultures and the voice of this change we so desperately need. Thank you for your life's work. I'm so glad I found it. "It" will assist others in humanity.
Yep. The non-empathic generally are sociopaths, psychopaths, and narcissists. None of which anyone has control over “being made” to have, because it comes from how you were treated in your childhood. (With exception of psychopathy which is from an actual brain malformation).
I love Mark's descripton on the development of his channel: Soft White Underbelly ❤ Mark is worth his weight in gold. He has placed himself in hundreds of dangerous situations and has had his life in danger numerous times. What a great legacy Mark is leaving behind. ❤❤
Dam you Mark, the amount of tears I have shed watching your interviews. I thought for sure this wouldn’t be the case during this one but you did it again with the love for your MOM! This interview is fire. Two people I have spent countless hours ‘with’ chatting together. What an amazing pair up! Like incredible. Thank you both for what you do. Real stuff matters so much and people need to see all of it to keep the human caring spirit alive.
Mark I have been listening to your interviews for years and thankyou for shining a light on this public health crisis which I think complex trauma is at the root of. Joe I recently discovered your podcast and love your interviews as well. You ask what can be done about this crisis and it needs to be addressed from every angle.Education is such an important part of making a dent . Many survivors of childhood trauma and abuse or who don't have safe parents, caregivers or homes end up with complex trauma which is very disabling.I think it would help greatly if every community or county would have complex trauma training and treatment programs including inpatient. Our communities need to do better in providing safety nets/supportive services as well for people who do not have safe stable families which seems to be alot of people. Our culture overall really lacks emotional intelligence and perhaps it would help if we can integrate this into our public school curriculum.
As a Dr. at Aegis treatment center in Fresno once told me: "All of this addiction is directly correlated to PTSD". Warriors of the human condition exist.
Btw, i had NO self worth at all. Buti had 2 children and i stopped drinking after 30 yrs for my children. I loved them more than i loved myself. Sober for 28 yrs now ❤❤❤
Pretty close to me too. I'm 60 ish & still catch myself setting myself up for failure. Some of us have better flight or fight skills & that's how I have survived.
Hello to both of you. I am French and watching you from southwestern France. Thank you for your podcasts! I just want to share the story of the late Polish alpinist Tomasz Mackiewicz (Tomek). He and his climbing partner, Élisabeth Revol, decided to summit Nanga Parbat (8,126 m / 26,660 ft) in the winter without supplemental oxygen. In January 2018, Élisabeth Revol was rescued in what is considered one of the most exceptional rescues in the history of mountaineering after spending two nights alone at high altitude. Unfortunately, Tomek died at the summit of Nanga Parbat. When you read his biography, you learn that before becoming an alpinist, he was a heroin addict! The circle is complete.
One of the best podcast I have listen to on TH-cam this year. Top 5 for me. 1:16:50 to 1:18:00 just sums it up. Keep on fighting the good fight Mark! God bless you and keep you strong and healthy. Your work in the end will be your greatest legacy. ❤
Mark Laita's photography and interview documentation is like nothing else. It has opened my eyes to the state of things and also given me many nightmares. Brave man.
I SERIOUSLY CAN'T BELIEVE JOE ROGAN PUT THIS SICKO ON HIS CHANNEL, HE IS JUST USING & ABUSING THESE PEOPLE FOR MONEY & TO GET HIS JOLLIES. SO MANY YOU TUBERS OUT THERE ARE CALLING THIS SICKO OUT FOR PIMPING, TRAFFICKING & DOING GOD KNOW WHAT TO THESE PEOPLE. IF JOE HAD HAVE BOTHERED TO CHECK OUT HIS PAST HE WOULD REALISE JUST HOW SICK & DARK THIS DEMON REALLY IS. JEEZE JOE I HONESTLY NEVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD SINK THIS LOW.👹👿👺💀🤢🤮🤮🤮
The problem with 90% of the people Mark interviews is a lack of love when they were kids. If you don’t get any love when you were younger, you’re gonna have lifelong problems. Whether that’s drugs or sex work or whatever. It’s down to people having children when they aren’t up to the task at hand.
Nailed it. Imo this seems to be the overall message that we should derive from his work and we should be taking this all into serious consideration. Marks podcast - Soft White Underbelly is a channel that I would implore everyone to take a deep dive on, discuss among their peers, and start making steps by whatever moral means necessary to start introducing programs or whatever we can as a collective to end this tragic cycle of perpetual, generational trauma ☹️💔🙏
Exactly 💯
@@CT-pv9gu EXACTLY why I am pro choice and pro birth control. Imagine a world where every child was wanted, welcomed, loved, and properly cared for.
Exactly!!!!!
Well I was loved very much by my family. But the neighbor felt like molesting a 6 yr old for a yr and didn't say shit till I was older. Trying to get on his interview currently.. I've had a wild fn life so far.
I honestly don't know how he does it. I recently started helping a homeless girl. Honestly in part due to being inspired by this guy. Its absolutely heart breaking hearing her stories. I managed to get her into housing and employed in only a couple weeks. It cost me less than a hundred bucks. She told me I was literally the only stranger she met who helped her. It broke my heart when she told me that.
God will bless you.
you’re an angel
🙏🏻
And you didn’t have to profit off it so all my respect to you but nada for this man
But he helps no one. Steals money from donations he claims to make for the people needing them. 12:26 he’s still deceiving people.
"You can't fix childhood", that hit me. 😢 It will always hurt... it's a daily struggle. I wish I could erase certain parts of the cassette tape in my head. I love watching SWU, makes me feel that I'm not alone. Thank you Mark...
I agree 😢💔 It's easier to raise healthy children than to try and fix broken adults.
Hey I know I'm just 1 out of 8 billion, but I'm sorry. I'm sorry you hurt, I'm sorry things weren't better. We get 1 shot at life, Live, love, laugh.
Jesse
@@jessekendall4658 thank you 🫂
the cassette tape. plays on its own. restarts on its own
Exactly. I’m 50 and still strongly affected by the hurtful words and things said and done to me in childhood, by my mother and the kids at school and even a few others. my self esteem is still tanked. Hard to get over.
Just lost my mom 2 weeks ago I can't explain my sadness! She was so beautiful in so many ways! I will never forget the impact she had on me. She accepted me NO MATTER WHAT THATS UNCONDITIONAL LOVE!!
I’m sorry to hear that man. But you’re right that is unconditional love. And I don’t think many people get to experience it. It’s a really beautiful thing
❤ love to you - sending you a virtual hug.
@@bethstubb5544 thank you rough times right now!!
I lost my mom a year ago, it gets better but I still hurts me in my core. A mothers love is a mothers love and incomparable
She is always with you. There is no death of spirit. You will be together forever. Just enjoy physical life while you are here.
I just finished the interview with Brian who became snowblind on Everest... I've been a fan of Marks channel for a few years. I find it interesting to learn about people and their lives. My heart goes out to most of them... This world needs a lot of love ..
Thanks Joe for having him on.
Mark liata is a pretty bad guy I’d look into it
@francislee798 his vibe is definately off . Like why does he seem so nervous? Or what is up?
@@francislee798gossip, unless you have proof, envious much?
@@francislee798Look further. He's doing a great thing.
@@francislee798go away please
I have been addicted to SWU since I watched a video a couple of years ago. It really helped me understand why people do the things they do and for the most part it’s childhood trauma from SA and incest. It’s horrifying to imagine how many kids deal with this on the daily. I was an empathetic person but am way more so now. Thank you Mark for the work you do. Making the world understand the forgotten people in our society.
Hearing Mark cry when he talks about how his mother loved him is so beautiful. I hope my son would speak of me that way some day. ❤
Depends on what kind of mother you are..
I immediately thought of my own son and hoped he will speak of me this way.
It was a beautiful moment
We all do. But we fulfilled our responsibilities, even as flawed individuals. Love. You did good. Legacy really doesn’t matter (imho!) ❤
This made me cry as well. Lost my mum a few years ago, 100% know what he means and how lucky I was.
Watching this for a 2nd time….only the best interviews get a 2nd watch…this is one of them
❤my 3rd 👌and I agree....❤
Same
My opinion is for Mark to enjoy HIS life. Thanks Mark for all you have accomplished. Be safe and find peace and tranquility in other areas.
I have come to appreciate Mark very much. He has done interesting compelling work. Your love for your parents is so touching, Mark.
I LOVE his interview with the divorce lawyer. That man is the best relationship coach ever!!!!
James Sexton ❤ Yes that interview was so amazing. There are probably 50+ different interviews of James Sexton and SWU is one of the best.
No, the female psychologist was the best one
@@sarkisianhavens video title please?
get to see his second one?
@@sarkisianhavens nah the one wit Mary was the best one
Soft white underbelly is THE best source of looking at the state of the now in the face in a unbiased and open manner.
It deserves every success. It is wonderful work being done.
A follower of SoftWhite Underbelly for years now. All the different walks of life. Most interviews start with where are you from and did you have both parents in your life. That's where it starts. Mark gives all these people a voice to tell their story.
"A crash course in empathy" - that was the perfect way for Mark to describe his channel. That's exactly what it's been for me.
“People define themselves as their lowest point” YUP. Mark does amazing work and I’ve enjoyed watching his channel for years now. It absolutely influenced my decision to pursue psych nursing.
Bless you!!! This is exactly what im sure mark had in mind….inspiring us to be better!! And you are by your career choice!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thank you!! We need the best psych nurses! They are a huge part of the sick person’s treatment 🩷. You go!!!!!
Mark you got me with your mom!!! And yes she would very PROUD of you!! She raised an exceptional REAL empathetic human being!!! Much respect to you and keep doing what you do!! Thanks for trying to make people open their eyes to a major issue in society with perspective to mental health issues!!!!
Mark has this gentle way about him. I am a huge fan.
He is such a caring man. He really loves people and wants to share the stories of those who aren’t heard. I love that. I appreciate that about him.
100%, whenever I watch the guy, I came away feeling good. He's a wholesome fella.
He’s an incredible human being.
Me too!❤
He’s the best.
I’ve been watching Mark for about 3.5 years now. Couldn’t believe how raw yet how empathetic he interviewed his participants. Never seen anything so honest.
Would you consider stories that are uplifting, coming from terrible to surpassing challenges and coming out the other side with success. Those people that should be our heroes to the next generation.
"There is no aftercare. He didn’t talk to me before the interview or after. He just rolled the camera and when it was done, he said it was too long. I apologized and told him to cut or edit whatever he wants. I left crying and feeling used. But that’s LA I guess." - From the interviewee of a recent episode 'Horror House'
Mark has a big heart, and I relate with being curious about people's stories. I try to give grace to people knowing they could be a victim of horrible abuse, and nobody knows it, and they think nobody cares!
Mark is quickly becoming a national treasure at this point. Godspeed Mark 🤍
Do you know how many MILLIONS upon MILLIONS he makes exploiting these people he interviews?! He is LOADED.
Mark liata is a really bad person!
@@JessRaeEthMark earned the money from a top-notch, high-paying career in advertising. Do some basic research before you make accusations.
@@francislee798You need to do some research. What you say is apocryphal and patently untrue.
Mark admitted that he is exploiting them in one of his episodes. He had a good reason for it but I forgot his explanation
I got told at my work... Go listen to Joe Rogan (because I loved talk back), I never did, but I love Mark Latta, he has never drank/smoked/or drugs, he is.... NEXT LEVEL, a forgiving soul
I had the pleasure of meeting Mark,a true gentleman.
Also he interviewed me twice.
Coming out soon.
The interesting and refreshing thing about Mark is he has no complaints about his life. He brags on his parents & upbringing. He does not complain about any aspect of his life. No drugs. No PTSD. No depression or anxiety. A guy who has had a very good life who can still empathize with people from the most bizarre backgrounds.
Yeah, that’s the part that is wild to me. Most people that empathize with the “lowest class” of society have some personal experience with it. Whether that’s themselves, or family, they know it firsthand.
Mark is like a Ken doll. Perfect upbringing, perfect career, perfect family. And he still finds a way to connect with these people. It amazes me.
Need more people in the world like Mark
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Totally agree
We really REALLY don’t - watch the piece on him by bj investigates then come back and tell me what a national treasure you think he is…trust me he is an awful person
I was on a Grand Jury a couple years ago and had to hear about a man that raped his daughter and her friends that came to visit. This man is still freaking walking around in the community!!
Pure effing evil!!
A Grand Jury can indite a ham sandwich. Why is he still walking around and not charged??
Unbelievable. Far as I’m concerned, the punishment they should give him, if they’re not going to throw him in prison, they should make sure the community he lives in know what he did. The shit he’ll get from the populace will more than make up for his lack of prison!
Dammit. They’re trying to destroy our society.
I agree with Mark on human greed, it is the problem along with 75% of bureaucracy that are self important and entitled and completely usless
Perhaps the most important conversation ever, Joe and Mark. Thank you.
This most definitely one of my favorite episodes
I think people in communities know when kids are being abused, you can tell by looking at them, most of the time. People turn their heads and ignore it.
I used to walk my kids to school everyday and pick them up . There were a few kids id see everyday that clearly should've been looked into.. when I was a teen in the 90s, my school was all over my parents over everything when they both worked full-time and didn't have time for the BS if myself and the school.. today I see kids slipping through the cracks right in front of everyone! If I were a teacher, and saw a kid coming to class everyday wearing the same clothes for months, I'd be reaching out to the parents! My son once had a friend that followed us home after school and I had no clue where he lived or who his parents were. Luckily the school called because someone saw him follow us home, and connected me to the dad, who took hours before he came and got his son!
People are afraid to get involved.
I love Marks' work! Thank you for interviewing him!
It all starts at home having 2 loving parents....
One is enough. Chill. Love is key. From parental figures. A Mom, Dad, Grandma, Aunt, Uncle, Adoptive parent, Older sibling etc. Just love. Knowing you are loved.
It certainly helps
Man crazy to see these 2 together. Would love a follow up down the road.
Mark is a special human! Love his stories and the way he interviews and handles the people he interviews
Loved what you said about your mum, Mark. Thanks for sharing your strength through your vulnerability 🙏🏽
I understand how you feel after seeing so much mental or physical trauma. I am an ER nurse since 16 years and i feel tired mentally too. The disease of your patient transpose to your body
Mark’s content has helped me realize i am so much stronger than i think. I got so close to being where most of the people he interviews are.
Thank you for showing reality 🙏
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same, Jesus has his hand on us !
Mark’s inner calm is comforting. ❤❤
100% my hubby is this way BLESS THEM ❤
one thing i admire about mark is he never talks over the person hes interviewing he lets them tell their story with minimal questions so its nice to hear his
33:42 everything Mark has done regarding his work has taught me priceless lessons.
I think Mark is his mother’s best work in life, and that is quite a compliment.
I love Mark’s videos. Some have brought me to tears. I can’t imagine the mental stress he has to deal with while doing these videos.
Unconditional love. I think Marks momma did a mighty fine job of raising him by showing him what unconditional love is. What if everone had unconditional love. It will never happen. But what if?
Thats what God is for. I wish everyone could fill their God size hole w His love instead of drugs, sex, adrenaline, drama, money, etc. The world would be full of love because God is love.
@@wendypoohbear6527 Amen. Thank you for reminding me.
@@meavia2053thanks for being receptive, The lord loves us all ❤ Nothing can separate the love he has for us. We can’t change the world and quite frankly it isn’t our burden to.❤
I truly believe that offering hope and showing gentle care over a period of time will help and encourage people who are struggling, while maybe nurturing some self-belief. Admittedly there are some people who will just abuse help and kindness. I have watched Marks videos for many years now, and he is such a kind, patient soul. I have seen Mark learn - or at least show that we can't fix people. However we can walk with them in their shoes from time to time, and this is what Mark does so superbly whilst supporting their plight, raising awareness and this is very special indeed. Huge high five for this. ❤
I watched the guy who survived Gacy on SWU. He was so interesting! And I think a lot of that was Mark. Same with the French Legionnaire. Great stuff!
I loved him too! His descriptions put you right in his inner space.
Discovered Mark on TH-cam with the West Virginia family who lives in Appalachia. Family extremely poor, illiterate, and history of incest. He still follows the family and helps them financially. This man has a heart of gold. He just has to watch out that his kindness is not perceived as a weakness . Good man.
Thanks Joe for interviewing Mark! ❤
Im a recovery addict of 10+ yrs, not ALL addicts are suffering from mental health or had trauma as a child. Some just have addiction in their DNA, learned behavior maybe. My Grandmother was a alcoholic, my mother is a alcoholic, and I was a addict of opioids. I had a great childhood and no trauma just hung around the wrong crowd during a low point in my life.
it's so complex, I'm a recovering addict myself and there are so many unhelpful stereotypes.
I truly hope your winning the fight, I'm on methadone after a treacherous 20 years of opiates started with a prescription and graduated to opium then heroin and illicit pills from India.
@Simplyrecovery yes I'm on a low dose of methadone as well. Thanks for the well wishes, I wish the same for you as well 😊 💪🏽
Having a parent as an alcoholic is traumatic.
What a great interview. I have tremendous respect for Mark Laita, all that he has achieved and his thoughts/insights. One comment mentioned Mark's wear and tear on himself. Anyone pursuing extremely impassioned paths such as Mark's work with society's down trodden, will realize there are costs to one's heart, mind, body and soul. The ultimate challenge is to establish and maintain boundaries and compartmentalization to stay "on the sane side of the tracks." This could well include a point at which one would need to "retire" for personal salvation. I know this from personal experience from years of extreme animal rescue. At one point, the toll on me personally was crippling beyond repair and I had to pass the torch.
Go Mark! Thanks for giving so many a voice.
This episode has been nothing short of inspirational. It gave me hope to see people talking about what I'm always thinking about. Things have to change at ground level because "You can't fix a childhood". Thanks Mark and Joe!!
I’m 55 and have known since I was 8 that I was molested/abused. However I was also told I was loved, so for a child so young it’s impossible to process the abuse because children focus on whatever love they get. I have gone to different therapists/psychiatrist my entire adult life. In my early 20s a Psychiatrist who I told about abuse, told me I was irrational and prescribed me Prozac. (This Psychiatrist was a family friend) hind sight is 20/20. My mother taught me self hate. In junior high school I was given 2 dexatrim capsules and a can of Sego ( disgusting diet shake) in a can. I was 12, and had complained to my mother that someone I went to school with teased me about being chubby. Etc, etc, not one time could I understand the disconnect as a child, because I wanted to believe my mother loved me. Anyway at 55 I did mushrooms and boom I realized abuse and love are not the same!
Proud of you! Wish you all the best!💖
Powerful. I believe our ancestors used to meditate with psychedelic mushrooms
I haven't watched a full Joe Rogan podcast in a long time...but this one I ate.
He is awesome
I feel like not only does your channel help bring awareness and hopefully bring some sort of help to your interviewees, but it also makes people who are in or were in those same situations, not feel so alone.
Yes to what you said, Mark, it is important for people to know about the story behind people so we learn for our own families, but also to have compassion and awareness. So much hurt these people have endured. It is heartbreaking.
It boils down to “human greed is the problem”. Hit the nail on the head there Mark. Much love brother.
Greed it’s greed, Ive said that for years
But people admire the very wealthy. Musk; Peterson ; Oprah ; Trump: Andrew Tate to name but a few. It’s never they admire nurses; doctors; teachers; police officers or firefighters. It’s terribly sad. How do we overcome that ?
@@aileenmac1 many people admire wealth because we’ve been trapped in a system that puts money above almost anything else.
In my experience, lots of people admire the selfless acts of others in the form of teachers and such. It’s not as apparent if we watch tv or social media, but that’s because those institutions are captured by the same elite that want us to worship money and not compassion.
We overcome this by seeking the truth, discovering it for ourselves, and putting out into the world the changes we want to see. It’s a never ending challenge because we are going against the grain of modern society.
Changes are coming if we work hard together to create a new paradigm. They need to come or we will perish.
@@aileenmac1 Who the fuck admires Trump or Tate? Tate is a digital pimp that blew up on Tik Tok... He's a product of the brainless public swiping reals and eating brainless content. His stance on the world is so bent backwards that it's scary how many young people actually eat it whole and believe it. And Trump, I don't even know where to begin... It's just a sign of how degraded and unintelligent we have become as a society. If those are our idols today, I'm terrified of tomorrow...
1:19:42 Mark, I'm sorry for the irreparable loss of your beloved mother. The way you spoke about her moved me. It is the way I speak about my father, whom I also lost in recent years. How fortunate we are to have known the unconditional love of a parent. It is likely the most important relationship one can have-parent and child. Please listen to yourself and move towards work that won't take a toll on your health. God bless.
What Mark does is unique. He has the ability to build rapport with people on all levels, without prejudice. I can't imagine the personal impact these people and their life stories of pain and suffering, must have on one's psyche. Heartbreaking. He continues to give us an insight into the lives of ordinary people which is not only compelling, emotionally charged but also very awesome inspiring. He deserves our thanks because these stories can't but help make us as individuals appreciate what we have and be grateful for every little thing. Thank you.
I was widely anticipating these two having a “chat”.
Mark, you are an amazing individual. I began watching Soft White Underbelly back in 2019.
Joe, thanks for having Mark on your show!
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You have to look into mark liata
The night stalker (Richard Ramirez) also stayed in the Cecil Hotel.
Elisa Lam was the girl who was found in the water tank. Tragic for her and her family. Rest in Peace.
His interviews could be used as research for statistical uses in psychology. In mental illness etc. What he's doing is invaluable on so many levels.
I love how Mark loves his mother!!! I feel like my son and I have that kind of relationship. All my kids were great, even though I know I wasn't a perfect mom. They know I love them unconditionally! We are under attack by the people that hate God and family, and I'm thankful my family are still intact.
Thanks for bringing Mark to a larger audience. He does amazing work.
18:32 so true!! I'm a retired social worker and the people I know who got clean didn't do it with treatment, they just woke up one day and decided they couldn't live that life anymore. Treatment is a revolving door and a HUGE money pit.
I agree with you about treatment, but as a substance use counselor, I feel that if I can help 1 person in 10 to stay clean, it's worth the effort.
@@BeBoppin2000 You would be correct in that assumption.
If the organization you work for is a religious one; just make sure you check yourself consistently and regularly.
Even if you feel the need not to. Doubly so, even.
It's not pretty, but the main culprits of this specific issue are religious organizations.
@@akaku9 I don't work for a religious organization. It's a private company.
I decided to get clean on my own but I never would have gotten on my feet without treatment so there's great programs out there that help if they want it. Otherwise there's no point.
@@alexarcher2797 That makes sense. I'm glad you got some good out of the programs!
Been following Mark's work on SWU for a few years. Mark - your work is SO important. Please keep going. Joe - thanks for talking with him and getting to know what's behind the curtain.
Mark's work is important as well as fascinating . Great interview here . I'd also love it if Joe had Peter Santenello on the show sometime.
That would be a cool 3
Me too! That would be awesome!
Love this idea
I love Soft White Underbelly and all the work Mark is doing shinning a lite on a horrible reality so many people are trying to survive through. I can relate to some of those people because I used to be a drug addict. My life has been a shit show but I have realized my self worth and am fighting to work every day for the good life I feel like I deserve. It took my love for a cat who needed me to pull me out of the darkness. I have taken in many homeless cats since, its what keeps me going even though I struggle to afford it, I just continue to survive. ❤ God Bless yall 🙏🏼 I Pray for all who are broken. You do matter, you are needed, and you deserve better!!!
I FEEL THE SAME WAY … MY DOG TROOPER WHO IS A FULL BRED SHEPHERD ABSOLUTELY MEANS THE ENTIRE WORLD TO ME!!! 💕🐾
What people don't understand is that Mark is a artist, his work is beautiful and terrifying, but it's real. He's shining a light on the problems and issues right under our noses. Sure, it's going to make you uncomfortable but that is the point of his work. It's supposed to make you feel. His whole TH-cam channel is a artist gallery filled with stories of life. He's doing what the rich and politicians don't do. He's going out of his way to show how life is for a good portion of your country. The things he shows in his videos is so real it is starkly different from all the other content on TH-cam which makes it, unique and honestly amazing and nobody else can do what he does. Because he's an artist and his whole personality is aligned with this work. He's willing to literally risk his life for this art. He doesn't have to save the people who need the help, because that isn't the point and the people who get interviewed and photographed by him know that going in, he's truly one of the best political artists of our time. The people who don't understand why he doesn't help doesn't understand his project. Mark, truly you're an amazing person and your work is saving lives, and waking people up to the reality of what life really is. Thank you.
❤well said 😊🎉 and I agree ❤
Living in Chicago and Portland over the last 5 years, seeing the vast homeless always makes me wonder "how did they get there? Why?"
Most people assume "drugs" and "mental illness"... sure, but there's still a person there dealing with those issues. Homelessness, poverty, crime, sex work... they're results of drugs and mental issues, not symptoms.
Laita's channel, for me, isn't exploitation as much as it is bravery to start a conversation i wish i had. It's fostering empathy and understanding, which is the best remedy to today's assumptions and hate for those who are outside the norm/ acceptable reality of current western society. Without understanding, we'll never solve anything. We'll just kick the can down the road, wasting time and resources doing what we THINK is best.
Thanks, Mark! Keep up the good work, and stay brave with love ❤
Mark is a very goodhearted man. Love him and the good work he is doing. Very interesting interview Joe 👌😍
Mark's interview with Logan, who survived the skydiving accident was the first video of Mark's that I watched. It really stuck with me. I think about that interview at least a couple times a week. The part that I never expected was that he was so grateful and optimistic, even after what happened to him.
Just discovered Mark about 2 weeks ago.. and I’m hooked watching every night…
Me too. I’m fascinated
I’m going to visit my daughter in LA nxt month & I’ll be looking for him… 😂 and the local story’s (Rebecca)
Joe, I’m SO happy you & Mark connected for this discussion…. I’m a huge fan of Mark (and you too) Mark’s work is unprecedented…. 🙏🏼
It fascinates me that both of you grew up in big cities, and live and big cities. I grew up in rural Alabama, and now at 55 back in the woods of Alabama. I haven't ever been out of the south until May when my husband and I drove to Cheyenne, Wyoming to visit our son, he and his wife were having their first baby. It was amazing seeing places I've never seen, even though Nebraska had nothing to see. lol
I have followed Mark’s channel since Covid 2020. He is a great man and has brought so much awareness to why / how there is so much mental illness. I am grateful for my parents.
Work is his addiction. But you can't have it better than that.
Been watching Mark’s work for over a year. I love his candidness during interviews. He shows a side of reality that NEEDS to be seen. 💗
Most, if not all, of humanity's problems were solved in this interview. These men are sharing great wisdom that seems to be forgotten in the "modern" era.
You give people a voice and raise awareness, Mark. And show compassion with no judgement throughout it all. We appreciate you and all you do, Sir.
Please be careful Mark....
I worry that someday you may come up against someone that has absolutely no conscience..❤🙏
He already has. Death threats, attempted extortion… I can’t recall the young lady’s name right now, but she was interviewed a couple of times alone.
Mark talks about her pimp doing this to him… Wildly, after being interviewed alongside said girl by Mark.
Exactly. The type of persons he interviews have childhoods and lives that can foster sociopathy. I’m sure that some of the people he’s interviewed DO have sociopathy. Hopefully he has personal protection at all interviews and at home, and takes precautions to avoid stalking and blackmail.
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Her name is Asriah.
Then they’ll be a lot like him. 2 peas in a pod
Mark, you're an ethnographer. A self-made very accomplished creative communicator of American cultures and the voice of this change we so desperately need.
Thank you for your life's work.
I'm so glad I found it. "It" will assist others in humanity.
The world needs more Marks in it ❤️ you sir, are a beacon of love and light for those in need.
❤ Thank you for interviewing Mark
Just like Mark, I love how Rogan doesn’t cut his guests off from speaking
I’m sorry, but anyone who rapes a 6 year old should never be let out of prison.
Can NOT teach empathy.. some people are MORE empathetic than others and some people just have zero at all 😢
Yep. The non-empathic generally are sociopaths, psychopaths, and narcissists. None of which anyone has control over “being made” to have, because it comes from how you were treated in your childhood. (With exception of psychopathy which is from an actual brain malformation).
This is the best conversation I have ever listened to.
I love Mark's descripton on the development of his channel: Soft White Underbelly ❤ Mark is worth his weight in gold. He has placed himself in hundreds of dangerous situations and has had his life in danger numerous times. What a great legacy Mark is leaving behind. ❤❤
What an AMAZING life he must lead. If you need an assist Mark- im here in Frankfort, KY- Ready to be of service.
Oh my God what an amazing interview!!!!!!
Dam you Mark, the amount of tears I have shed watching your interviews. I thought for sure this wouldn’t be the case during this one but you did it again with the love for your MOM! This interview is fire. Two people I have spent countless hours ‘with’ chatting together. What an amazing pair up! Like incredible. Thank you both for what you do. Real stuff matters so much and people need to see all of it to keep the human caring spirit alive.
I'm excited to watch, I wonder if he speaks about Rebecca.
😂Becky
He didn’t and I was waiting for him to mention her also. Recently, Rebecca has been speaking with Cosmo on his channel though.
@@donacatanguma old news.
Original Air Date: December 13, 2022
Mark I have been listening to your interviews for years and thankyou for shining a light on this public health crisis which I think complex trauma is at the root of. Joe I recently discovered your podcast and love your interviews as well. You ask what can be done about this crisis and it needs to be addressed from every angle.Education is such an important part of making a dent . Many survivors of childhood trauma and abuse or who don't have safe parents, caregivers or homes end up with complex trauma which is very disabling.I think it would help greatly if every community or county would have complex trauma training and treatment programs including inpatient. Our communities need to do better in providing safety nets/supportive services as well for people who do not have safe stable families which seems to be alot of people. Our culture overall really lacks emotional intelligence and perhaps it would help if we can integrate this into our public school curriculum.
Joe Rogan is so incredibly intelligent, reasonable, and insightful when he's not blurting out the stupidest nonsense imaginable.
As a Dr. at Aegis treatment center in Fresno once told me: "All of this addiction is directly correlated to PTSD". Warriors of the human condition exist.
Btw, i had NO self worth at all. Buti had 2 children and i stopped drinking after 30 yrs for my children. I loved them more than i loved myself. Sober for 28 yrs now ❤❤❤
🎯🫱🏽🫲🏻SAME
Pretty close to me too. I'm 60 ish & still catch myself setting myself up for failure. Some of us have better flight or fight skills & that's how I have survived.
Hello to both of you. I am French and watching you from southwestern France. Thank you for your podcasts! I just want to share the story of the late Polish alpinist Tomasz Mackiewicz (Tomek). He and his climbing partner, Élisabeth Revol, decided to summit Nanga Parbat (8,126 m / 26,660 ft) in the winter without supplemental oxygen. In January 2018, Élisabeth Revol was rescued in what is considered one of the most exceptional rescues in the history of mountaineering after spending two nights alone at high altitude. Unfortunately, Tomek died at the summit of Nanga Parbat. When you read his biography, you learn that before becoming an alpinist, he was a heroin addict! The circle is complete.
I can listen to Mark all day long, huge fan!
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One of the best podcast I have listen to on TH-cam this year. Top 5 for me. 1:16:50 to 1:18:00 just sums it up. Keep on fighting the good fight Mark! God bless you and keep you strong and healthy. Your work in the end will be your greatest legacy. ❤
If there is no other message from Soft White UnderBelly, it is PROTECT OUR CHILDREN!
Not just PROTECT them. Raise them right.
Mark Laita's photography and interview documentation is like nothing else. It has opened my eyes to the state of things and also given me many nightmares. Brave man.
I SERIOUSLY CAN'T BELIEVE JOE ROGAN PUT THIS SICKO ON HIS CHANNEL, HE IS JUST USING & ABUSING THESE PEOPLE FOR MONEY & TO GET HIS JOLLIES. SO MANY YOU TUBERS OUT THERE ARE CALLING THIS SICKO OUT FOR PIMPING, TRAFFICKING & DOING GOD KNOW WHAT TO THESE PEOPLE. IF JOE HAD HAVE BOTHERED TO CHECK OUT HIS PAST HE WOULD REALISE JUST HOW SICK & DARK THIS DEMON REALLY IS. JEEZE JOE I HONESTLY NEVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD SINK THIS LOW.👹👿👺💀🤢🤮🤮🤮