Yes BUT the erstwhile greatest Sun user of all time, Groudon, was massively nerfed by the existence of Walking Wake itself. It will be great support *for* it but it will always be OHKO’d by it if given a single turn in front of it.
@@vbarreiroyup, unless primal groudon returns magically; however a walking wake can easily be countered with another walking wake or we can see powerherb xerneas x groudon return as a pairing.
Groudon: Who are you? Walking Wake: Death. And I don't mean it metaphorically, or rhetorically, or poetically, or theoretically, or in any other fancy way. I'm Death, straight up.
Walking wake has insane rain synergy if your building to counter sun teams. You can use it to steal sun boosts from sun teams and benefits from ones not using wake
This generation with weather and terrain have been interesting Hail turned to snow that gives benefits to Ice types, even just the fact that it no longer chip damages non ice types is considered a buff Sun get a significant buff with Past Paradox Pokemon Rain and Sand stay mainly the same Psychic Terrain had Armarouge as it’s main addition (and the only reason to run psychic terrain before Expanding Force was given an HM in the DLC) Electric Terrain got future paradox Pokemon but competitively there has been no Electric Terrain seen due to no Tapu Koko Rillaboom still being Grassy Terrain’s main representation, and Misty Terrain is still considered the worst terrain It would be interesting if next generation has something similar to paradox Pokemon, but with rain and another terrain instead of sun and electric terrain Grassy terrain boost would buff grassy terrain if Rillaboom is added in home update or DLC update, increasing Rillaboom’s already high usage Psychic terrain boost would give it more visibility outside of Expanding Force users Misty terrain boost would still make misty terrain the worst terrain because the Pokemon that would get boosted in Misty terrain would just hold a booster item
I think misty terrain would be good If items like the berserk gene were reintroduced/introduced. A free swords dance on an unburden user would go crazy.
I find it funny the future paradoxes are hold back simply by their only setter being Pircunchin The moment Miraidon comes, this guys will tear everyone a new one😂😂. Speciifcally Brian Hands, Bundle and the Neo Justice force (except Crown. He is killing everyone rn)
Been running walking wake, venusaur, torn, torkoal, indeedee, bloodmoon. Sunroom team but because I have Pokémon violet, getting walking wake is gonna be impossible to get. Unless someone wants to trade
I'm a big fan of Terra grass walking wake, it gaining immunity to spore is great, and running a full: Draco meteor, hydro steam, Flamethrower, terra blast it acts as a full fire/water/grass core teams used to rely on along with being able to hit 100% percent of pokemon neutrally at least as far as I know
I love the paradox beasts. All three are very fun and very strong, and all more interesting than the paradox swords (even if I'm a fan of Iron Crown in particular)
What if ypu wanted to punch big hole with Walking Wake in Sun But Iron Bundle said "252 SpA Iron Bundle Freeze-Dry vs. 12 HP / 0 SpD Walking Wake: 520-616 (152 - 180.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO"
I had a match the other day where my opponent led Terrakion and Whimsicott and proceeded to side beat up their Terrakion for a plus 5 attack boost then swept me. I was using your galarian Zapdos team and it was annoying to play against
Hydro steam is what steam eruption from volcanion should have been, like cmon are you gonna tell me the only water fire type in the game has to be conflicted by weathers
i’ve been experimenting with tera fire lifeorb hydro steam dragon pulse weather ball protect don’t know what is the best 4th move, i’ve tried snarl as it lacks a spread move but i’m not sure if it can stay long enough on the field. weather ball is a great move because it’s stronger than flamethrower in sun and stronger than hydro steam in rain. Dragon pulse with life orb is quite strong and i think it can pick up some ko’s? but if you give it a scope lens… dragon cheer gyarados?
how did they make iron leaves so underwhelmibg? Like the past jhotos are cool and strong, Boulder and crown are goofy and hit hard. Leaces is just...like not there
Well Iron Leaves is Walking Wake counterpart. Iron Leaves is a Pokémon made for Terrains (he's buffed by 3 of them) where Walking Wake is a Climate Pokémon. Iron Crown is the counterpart of past Raikou (Signature move that can't miss vs signature move that can miss) Gouging Fire has a Protect-like move where Iron Boulder's signature move bypasses it.
@ryanhickson6399 ah sorry for the confusion I just meant if your gonna have a team full of past paradox, why not use THE past paradox instead of groudon
Bro where you been? This has been knows since Walking Wake was released on PokemonShowdown lol. He tears it up on sun/rain teams. Rain team he also gets Hurricane. So he's blasting Hydro Steam, Draco Meteors, and Hurricanes
Moxie I hope you see this but please consider lowering membership to $1 or opening a Patreon for $1. There's too much nickel and diming presently and I just can't convince myself to pay $5 per month to watch your barricaded videos.
There's a $1 tier it just gets ur name at the end. And I wouldn't worry, the bonus vids are purely supplemental like teambuilding and testing some wacky ideas
Flamethrower is more consistent since you don’t run the risk of losing grass coverage against a rain team. If you run weather ball and you’re against Basculegion/Ogerpon rain it’s going to be a struggle
Wake won’t reach it’s full potential until Koraidon is available. Because walking wake has no bulk Koraidon will be able to take some pressure off of it. But Miraidon will be a problem because it’ll most likely Ohko wake no matter the tera except ground
I wouldn't exactly call 99/91/83 defenses "no bulk". Still it'll very much enjoy having a meta filled with Koraidons and Groundons. Although if used with Koraidon you'd have to be wary of stacking fairy weaknesses.
@@MacZephyrZ That’s why u go Fire tera on Koraidon and protect the walking wake. I wish they made it possible for Raging bolt to ohko flutter mane. But no combination of raging bolt can knock out flutter mane on round one with Thunder clap. Not even on electric terrain
Thing is that Miraidon is 100% going to be a common Pokémon paired with Kyogre or Calyrex so it’s likely that Sun Teams will dip a bit in usage. I can see Koraidon + Zacian Teams being a thing with Ting-Lu support to reduce Miraidon damage but as for Wake specifically I feel it’ll dip a lot unlike Gouging Fire or Raging Bolt with Restricteds. Fire/Dragon is an amazing type against Zacian and it’s speed is high enough to outspeeds common Pokémon like Dialga Kyogre Groudon Ho-Oh and Terapagos. Speaking of Terapagos is going to be a nuisance since it has field effect clearing with terrain and weather so it’s like to be used to hard punish Miraidon. Wake might see some scarce usage on Groudon Sun instead of Koraidon sun, but I think it’d be more niche than powerful.
@@browserjunior4707 Yeah Terapagos is going to be a problem if you let it set up with Rock polish and calm mind. Volt switch & close combat seems to do the trick for terapagos. You just have to double into it no matter what Pokémon is standing next to it
I just think it's funny like the first item you think of is choice specs choice scaf I have an 88 career win percentage and I've never used a choice item. I I mean dude for real we're supposed to be finessing or supposed to be individualizing ourselves and I believe the reason 88% most of the metal loses is because their meta chasers and they just chased the next team that they think is good so there's no originality be different g
Thumbnail calls walking wake a he but I see it as a she bc 1. Suicunes probably a she and 2. It's interesting if wake was a she Don't worry I'll touch grass later
How could you forget the most important and famous and well-loved Dragon/Water-type of all time; Dracovish?
Ofc tatsugiri
Tatsu disrespect
Dracovish is a Rain Sweeper, not a Sun Sweeper
Salute to Mr. Fish
@@theonedux157 Dracovish was a sand sweeper
Pokemon explicitly buffed sun teams this gen. And I love it.
Yes BUT the erstwhile greatest Sun user of all time, Groudon, was massively nerfed by the existence of Walking Wake itself. It will be great support *for* it but it will always be OHKO’d by it if given a single turn in front of it.
@@vbarreiroyup, unless primal groudon returns magically; however a walking wake can easily be countered with another walking wake or we can see powerherb xerneas x groudon return as a pairing.
@@veganitis5768 Xerneas is NOT allowed in Paldea
@@veganitis5768unfortunately, border control has not granted Xerneas access into Paldea
@@veganitis5768Xerneas was unfortunately ran over by a revaroom on the streets.
“Landorus T is a bit dead in the water at the moment.”
…my word. I can’t believe he’s fallen so far. This must be one of the timelines of all time
A water type being good in sun teams? What’s next, the returns of void cats?
We better get a fire type pokemon next generation that works well in rain
@@mr.punisher5100technically talonflame fulfills that role, 100% accurate hurricane and priority
Wake is awesome, but I feel like it'll really take off in a Restricted Format because of Koraidon and Groundon.
Or as the "anti-sun" tech mon on restricted formats with Kyogre rain teams.
@@Rye-Uh Man's got the idea fr!
Groudon: Who are you?
Walking Wake: Death. And I don't mean it metaphorically, or rhetorically, or poetically, or theoretically, or in any other fancy way. I'm Death, straight up.
Walking wake has insane rain synergy if your building to counter sun teams.
You can use it to steal sun boosts from sun teams and benefits from ones not using wake
I love WW’s design. I’ve never been a big fan of a Suicune but making it a dinosaur-dragon thing instantly made it cooler to me
I ran this in Portland. I did badly because it was my first tournament. But this helped me take games off of each of my opponents.
I don't know why, but the trainer card at 11:20 caught me off-guard. That Urshifu is *stanced up* and heading to your current coordinates right NOW.
Damn 😂😂
This generation with weather and terrain have been interesting
Hail turned to snow that gives benefits to Ice types, even just the fact that it no longer chip damages non ice types is considered a buff
Sun get a significant buff with Past Paradox Pokemon
Rain and Sand stay mainly the same
Psychic Terrain had Armarouge as it’s main addition (and the only reason to run psychic terrain before Expanding Force was given an HM in the DLC)
Electric Terrain got future paradox Pokemon but competitively there has been no Electric Terrain seen due to no Tapu Koko
Rillaboom still being Grassy Terrain’s main representation, and Misty Terrain is still considered the worst terrain
It would be interesting if next generation has something similar to paradox Pokemon, but with rain and another terrain instead of sun and electric terrain
Grassy terrain boost would buff grassy terrain if Rillaboom is added in home update or DLC update, increasing Rillaboom’s already high usage
Psychic terrain boost would give it more visibility outside of Expanding Force users
Misty terrain boost would still make misty terrain the worst terrain because the Pokemon that would get boosted in Misty terrain would just hold a booster item
I think misty terrain would be good If items like the berserk gene were reintroduced/introduced. A free swords dance on an unburden user would go crazy.
I think rain and sand have always been really solid since gen 5, they really dont need any buffs imo
the new gen should play with Misty and snow tbh
The rain in the game stays mainly the same
I find it funny the future paradoxes are hold back simply by their only setter being Pircunchin
The moment Miraidon comes, this guys will tear everyone a new one😂😂. Speciifcally Brian Hands, Bundle and the Neo Justice force (except Crown. He is killing everyone rn)
Walking wake is like if urshifu had a bad hair day
I love this, my faveroite Legendary Beast became a super cool Raptor!
I've been really looking forward to trying walking wake and your vid helped me figure what works best
Thanks Moxie :)
I have been using this in my sun team ever since the venusaur video. it's an absolute menace
That combo goes so crazy
@@iancastro1327 it does indeed
Its a pretty versatile mon, I'm looking forward to testing it out on either a Rain or Sun Team
With Moxie’s comment on Land-T, kinda wild to consider the meta has finally shifted enough to where he isn’t as ideal, after about a decade
Been running walking wake, venusaur, torn, torkoal, indeedee, bloodmoon. Sunroom team but because I have Pokémon violet, getting walking wake is gonna be impossible to get. Unless someone wants to trade
Walking wake is kinda like Urshifu if he didn’t have a really bad spray tan
I’ve been using this team via the rental code, and either you lose horribly after 20+ turns or win in 3 turns. What a glorious team.
This is literally one of my favorite Pokemon now
Ofc it is that thing is like kingambit it makes you doubt what is a resisted hit
Awesome, thanks for the builds! Sounds like Volcanion, but better!
11:35 omg what battle song is that I have to unlock it 😊
It’s Carmine’s battle theme from the DLC. Probably my favorite track in the game! :)
Something about clicking a Water move in Sun makes me extremely happy, and I don’t know why
I'm a big fan of Terra grass walking wake, it gaining immunity to spore is great, and running a full: Draco meteor, hydro steam, Flamethrower, terra blast it acts as a full fire/water/grass core teams used to rely on along with being able to hit 100% percent of pokemon neutrally at least as far as I know
I love how the most random legendarys are good this gen
Maybe he’s not a Dino. He’s a dawg.
He’s a Dino, but he got that dawg in him.
iron leaves is next? im so excited, been looking at it for a while without knowing exactly where to go with it
I feel like ninetales drought with walking wake can go crazy, ninetales being able to kill most grass types that threaten walking wake
wait that team in the intro is oddly familiar...
Is there a rental code for this team??
I love the paradox beasts. All three are very fun and very strong, and all more interesting than the paradox swords (even if I'm a fan of Iron Crown in particular)
Walter white is insane
dawg just skip iron leaves we won’t notice
I wonder if they brought back desolate land, would walking wake's signature move just not work lol
We making it out of area zero with this one!🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
Walking Wake is so BIG I love it
What if ypu wanted to punch big hole with Walking Wake in Sun
But Iron Bundle said "252 SpA Iron Bundle Freeze-Dry vs. 12 HP / 0 SpD Walking Wake: 520-616 (152 - 180.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO"
I had a match the other day where my opponent led Terrakion and Whimsicott and proceeded to side beat up their Terrakion for a plus 5 attack boost then swept me. I was using your galarian Zapdos team and it was annoying to play against
Been cobbling together a sun team with walking wake as an ace and its so hard to choose who else to pick
Hydro steam is what steam eruption from volcanion should have been, like cmon are you gonna tell me the only water fire type in the game has to be conflicted by weathers
Music Link Mr Boosted?
One of the best looking Pokémon this gen
i’ve been experimenting with
tera fire lifeorb
hydro steam
dragon pulse
weather ball
protect
don’t know what is the best 4th move, i’ve tried snarl as it lacks a spread move but i’m not sure if it can stay long enough on the field.
weather ball is a great move because it’s stronger than flamethrower in sun and stronger than hydro steam in rain.
Dragon pulse with life orb is quite strong and i think it can pick up some ko’s? but if you give it a scope lens… dragon cheer gyarados?
tested it a bit and it was fun, primarina is the worst match up
Tera fire for wake on sun teams is my go to cuz its offensive and defensive. Resists fairy, boosts flamethrower
how did they make iron leaves so underwhelmibg?
Like the past jhotos are cool and strong, Boulder and crown are goofy and hit hard. Leaces is just...like not there
Well Iron Leaves is Walking Wake counterpart. Iron Leaves is a Pokémon made for Terrains (he's buffed by 3 of them) where Walking Wake is a Climate Pokémon.
Iron Crown is the counterpart of past Raikou (Signature move that can't miss vs signature move that can miss)
Gouging Fire has a Protect-like move where Iron Boulder's signature move bypasses it.
He needs terrain support to work, so maybe when miraidon will eventually arrive it could cook something
I cooked up a draft league with this thing on sun, very very good
He's a funny looking guy
Just wanted to say that I made it to masterball with Iron Leaves , ohkoing multiple walking wakes along the way 😊
can you drop the moveset/EVs 👀
Walking wake goes down way to easy for me is there a good build that gives it more bulk?
Offered an AV set
I love this pokemon because it isn't a sun or rain pokemon, IT'S BOTH!
They did Iron Leaves dirty. It's cheeks compared to all the other paradox swords of justice and paradox legendary beasts.
You said next Ep is Iron Leaves. I will be judging you based on the set you use. :) /j
I wonder if walking wake is a good partner to Kyogre especially as a sun counter when groudon switch in
Hey moxie which paradox pokemon do you think would be black if they were humans?
We gonna get a pecharunt team on the casual ladder? Lol
When groudon becomes legal do you think teams full of past paradox pokemon will become viable?
At that point run koraidon
@@ryanp.2669 why not both?
@@ryanp.2669 I feel like a sun team of, koraidon, Groudon, ogerpon, fluttermane and 2 other Pokemon would do quite well when it's legal
@ryanhickson6399 ah sorry for the confusion I just meant if your gonna have a team full of past paradox, why not use THE past paradox instead of groudon
@@ryanp.2669 well isn't Groudon technically a past pokemon
Video starts at 0:00
Bro where you been? This has been knows since Walking Wake was released on PokemonShowdown lol.
He tears it up on sun/rain teams. Rain team he also gets Hurricane. So he's blasting Hydro Steam, Draco Meteors, and Hurricanes
Everyone forgets tastugiri lol
Moxie I hope you see this but please consider lowering membership to $1 or opening a Patreon for $1. There's too much nickel and diming presently and I just can't convince myself to pay $5 per month to watch your barricaded videos.
There's a $1 tier it just gets ur name at the end. And I wouldn't worry, the bonus vids are purely supplemental like teambuilding and testing some wacky ideas
I didn't know. Ty@@MoxieBoosted
Why not weather ball instead of flamethrower?
Flamethrower is more consistent since you don’t run the risk of losing grass coverage against a rain team. If you run weather ball and you’re against Basculegion/Ogerpon rain it’s going to be a struggle
Day 1 of waiting for gimmick pokemon part 2
Wake won’t reach it’s full potential until Koraidon is available.
Because walking wake has no bulk Koraidon will be able to take some pressure off of it.
But Miraidon will be a problem because it’ll most likely Ohko wake no matter the tera except ground
I wouldn't exactly call 99/91/83 defenses "no bulk".
Still it'll very much enjoy having a meta filled with Koraidons and Groundons. Although if used with Koraidon you'd have to be wary of stacking fairy weaknesses.
@@MacZephyrZ That’s why u go Fire tera on Koraidon and protect the walking wake. I wish they made it possible for Raging bolt to ohko flutter mane.
But no combination of raging bolt can knock out flutter mane on round one with Thunder clap. Not even on electric terrain
Thing is that Miraidon is 100% going to be a common Pokémon paired with Kyogre or Calyrex so it’s likely that Sun Teams will dip a bit in usage.
I can see Koraidon + Zacian Teams being a thing with Ting-Lu support to reduce Miraidon damage but as for Wake specifically I feel it’ll dip a lot unlike Gouging Fire or Raging Bolt with Restricteds. Fire/Dragon is an amazing type against Zacian and it’s speed is high enough to outspeeds common Pokémon like Dialga Kyogre Groudon Ho-Oh and Terapagos.
Speaking of Terapagos is going to be a nuisance since it has field effect clearing with terrain and weather so it’s like to be used to hard punish Miraidon. Wake might see some scarce usage on Groudon Sun instead of Koraidon sun, but I think it’d be more niche than powerful.
@@browserjunior4707 Yeah Terapagos is going to be a problem if you let it set up with Rock polish and calm mind.
Volt switch & close combat seems to do the trick for terapagos.
You just have to double into it no matter what Pokémon is standing next to it
Smh, no Tera Fire Weather Ball! 😅
too bad i missed the event 😔
Scald was taken away from many water types....
But Emboar still has it.
WW and Venusaur on the same side is absolutely disgusting
Walking Wake looks sooo floofy.
holy shit its the walking woke video
Technically all the paradox mons have been useable since last year
Don't think Wake and Leaves had a Dex entry until the DLC so that would be incorrect
No because it's not actually available in pokemon sun
I just think it's funny like the first item you think of is choice specs choice scaf I have an 88 career win percentage and I've never used a choice item. I I mean dude for real we're supposed to be finessing or supposed to be individualizing ourselves and I believe the reason 88% most of the metal loses is because their meta chasers and they just chased the next team that they think is good so there's no originality be different g
Idk Is it?
Thumbnail calls walking wake a he but I see it as a she bc 1. Suicunes probably a she and 2. It's interesting if wake was a she
Don't worry I'll touch grass later
not first but early as hell
Walking wake awful design
Horrible take
Facts
Walking wake and flutter mane are lame. Dishonorable.