AUDI S4 B8 - 200K MILE REVIEW /4 YEAR OWNERSHIP. RELIABILITY, MODS, REPAIRS, ETC
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- 200K Mile ownership review of my 4 year ownership with my 2010 Audi S4 (B8). Brief discussion regarding expected repairs/maintinance, reliability, etc.
BRIEF MODS LIST BY FAVORITE:
1) PIGGYBACK TUNE (CHIPWERKE)
2) COLD AIR INTAKE (EUROIMPULSE)
3) VALVED EXHAUST SYSTEM (CUSTOM)
4) CARBON STEERING WHEEL (EUROIMPULSE)
5) WEIGHTED SHIFT KNOB (EUROIMPULSE)
6) BRAKE PADS AND ROTORS (STOPTECH)
7) SUPERSPORT LOWERING SPRINGS (H&R)
8) CARBON FIBER DIFFUSER (ECS TUNING)
9) HONEYCOMB GRILL (EBAY)
10) VERDE Wheels 19x8
GENERAL VEHICLE RECOMMENDATIONS:
1- Oil level measuring is rarely accurate. Engine is already equipped with a dip stick tube (closed off with a cap). High recommend purchasing a dip stick ($6 via ECS) to measure oil accurately.
2- When in stalling lowering springs, be very cautions with the rubber pads on the ends of the springs, as they might squeak on bumps if not seated properly.
3- Keyless entry stopped working around 100K Miles, (never diagnosed) - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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StrUght to the point only 5 min video. I love it. Thank you for not rambling for 20 minutes like every one else
I'm impressed you never had to do a water pump or thermostat, that oil consumption was definitely on the higher end of the spectrum but it's very confidence inspiring seeing how well the car treated you
Thank you for the comment! Yes this car was surprisingly VERY solid other than the issues i mentioned!
That's very true about the t-stat and water pump. I'm an audi tech for 10 years now and those are definitely the most common. So are coolant fans, I see alot of mechatronics in the dsg versions and speed sensors which you have to take the whole transmission apart, I've done a few rear sports differentials, carbon in secondary air ports, cam adjusters start making noise at start up. Man I can go on and on and on. And oh if you tune these cars good luck you'll need to be rich
my car has already had 3 t starts lol. Most b8 owners replace by 50-75k miles 100 percent
@@shawn8474 anything else to worry about other than the stuff you mentioned, also how often do you see the cam adjuster issue?
I had the a6 3.0t with the same engine, with 200k miles, engine was still very strong and could run easily for 100k miles more, definitely the most reliable audi engine
did you ever replace the catalytic converter? I heard the oem one and it can cause big trouble if not replaced.
@@neverhomepnw one thing that you have to be aware is the timing chain, one day you will have to get it fixed and it's very expensive
i’m at 150 now
@@tr-nm5yvso are there two people writing your comment at the same time…? Who the heck is “we!?”
Bro, great video seriously the accent and the attitude. I like the straightforward to the point Blunt information. Truly great video, my man a plus
This is a great review, thank you
This is a great effin video bro 🔥🔥
Great video! Voice reminds me of the guy who does 'Bro Science' and looks like Cesc Fabregas! 10/10.
Great video!!!
super informative, thanks for the video!
No problem brotha!
I had the same oil consumption when I bought my S4. I added liqui moly cera tec at the 75K oil change and that seemed to have fixed the issue (B8.5 S4 at 78K miles)
Did it work then ??? I mean you have no mere oil consumption??
Im curious if you put 5w-30 instead of 5w-40?
Cera tec is the shizz
You are lucky man. I have 2014 S4 96K miles so far PCV valve, tstat, engine mounts, water pump, two coolant pipes, breather hose under supercharger and probably more shit I can’t think of right now.
I had a neighbor that would redline his Chrysler 300 SRT every morning, in Minnesota, no matter how cold it was out. Your line about that made me LOL
The best one to get is a late 2014+ B8.5 because you get the CREC engine (not in USA though) which has all sorts of improvements to improve reliability, plus you will have the latest revisions of parts that were previously known to fail, including the DSG transmission. The supercharger is revised with an electromagnetic clutch that improves fuel economy and the CREC engine also introduces the essential manifold port injectors in addition to the high pressure injectors. Not only do they improve economy but they also solve the carbon build up on the valves issue.
Sill, the B8x is a fantastic car, very reliable and the grip is supernatural even in heavy rain. Great B&O sound system, brake wash system so that you get instant grab with the brakes in rain, the Avant gives you plenty of load capacity and the piped in engine sound can be eliminated simply by pulling a fuse. Loads of tuning options as well, this engine is restricted at the factory, so you have to get the software modified to make any hardware changes work.
Another very important design and feature is the deadlocks. One press of the fob deadlocks the car, so it can only be opened with the key and not by smashing a window etc. With this in mind, you can then remove the OBD2 fuse from the fuse panel located at the side of the dashboard and is subsequently protected by the closed door. This makes the car near enough impossible to steal unless they get your key fob (or if you have keyless entry).
Easy car to work on as well, so long as you get the variety of niche tools (triple square, torx etc) and lots of pattern parts to choose from. so far mine has been incredibly reliable, more so than the Honda cars I used to own. I'll put that down to the S4 being made in only one factory in Ingolstadt, Germany rather than various factories around the world. They obviously take pride when making them.
Good to know. Great info. I'm about to get a 2013 usa model to go along my e46 M3 and I will go dual pulley +. Have you had any issues with your catalytic converters??
@@oldschoolebm666 None at all, but I'm completely stock. I've been thinking about mods, but the roads in the UK are absolutely horrific and there's so much traffic now that it's difficult to enjoy any more performance.
S4 being made in only one factory in Ingolstadt, Germany .
I though all German cars where glued together in Mexico and transported to USA.
@@Thevol40k s4s are all made in germany check the first letter of the vin itll always be a W. That's not for every german car tho obviously lmao
Great Review I like the humor!
Glad you enjoyed it! New video dropping tonight :)
thanks bro for not talking for like 35 minutes to get to the point lmao. LOVE THE VALUEE.
Wow - pretty amazing! My 15 only has 7.5K miles on it!!!
great vid
This video is so on the money.
This shit was hilarious lol. Looking at a '10 tomorrow, can't wait
Thanks for making this video. How many miles when you had to do the carbon cleaning / PCV?
Nice video! Thankfully, my b8.5 S4 has been pretty reliable. What's your wheel and tire setup?
Damn thought I was the only one. I have a b5a4 with 260k on the dial and still rockin the stock clutch. Have had a new rs4 clutch for it but haven’t put it on yet. This is my next purchase for sure. Done with the 4 cyl
oh god the classic B5! Deff a solid upgrade from the B5!
I got a B8.5 S4 - 3 years in, can't go wrong
Right now i have a very clean B8.5 A4 stage one with some cosmetic changes like window tint and wheels and a little lip, with 90k miles on it. Love the car to death, but i’m falling in love the S4, im looking at the B8.5 generation because looks wise it’s the best imo, and it’s supercharged. BUT on the flip side i wanna go stage 2 with my car. So right now it’s either an S4 or go stage 2 with my car and keep it for a couple years longer. What’s your opinion? and is the S4 really all what it’s talked up to be?
Curious, how did your H&R lowering springs treat you? How long did you have them on the car? I want to lower my car but at the same time I want to be able to keep the adaptive suspension system
dude first off, great vid.. 175k in a 2010 manual and it was like talking to a mirror as far as how I treat and care for it and even shared the same thoughts on the clutch lol, this just makes it more believable that it could be the original. Luckily the PCV was replaced by the dealer around 125k with the pump and Tstat before I got it but I also knew those were a must going into the search. The one time I didn't do a job myself was for a free pad and rotor install with my purchase on all corners and sure enough the "technichan" put the drilled / slotted rear rotors on backwards (like, the only case where rotors are directional too lol) It' s the rears though and I didnt notice for so long as is but now my brakes throw debris in toward the wheel in the back I guess lol. I'm just waiting for warmer weather and i'll be doing the decarbon with plugs , oil, etc and maybe even the pcv too since its right there. Just something to add on for anyone other owners reading this: If you're a DIY person who does this to save some money, are experienced, but don't have ALL the time in the world because this car is your daily/main transport and you happen to need a job done that involves the pinch bolt being removed, take it to a shop if you're on the fence ESPECIALLY if you see snow/ salt on a reg basis.. The only situation where getting the original out isn' t a complete painful battle is if you have a lift and air hammer and the patience of neatly drilling the seized bolt down to pieces without damaging the steering knuckle. Luckily, school being online and my father's gravel driveway pushed me to the right side of the fence and sure enough it took me with a german auto shop I trust 2 days (a day per side) . But on a good note, if looking for an affordable small-step wheel upgrade(only b8, not b8.5), try to see if you can get rims and/or tires off a b8 s5 (et +33 rims). Sits about perfectly flush with no rub at all if ur still at stock ride height, and if lowered you can compensate with 245 tires instead if tire rub might really be an issue. clean aggressive look, OG quality, and no extra stress on bearings from spacers Anyways, Naj seriously spot on advice man with hilarious facts on the b5 haha. Liked and subbed bro !
Get a clutch from South Bend Clutch. You will never look back. Get a stage 2 disc
haha thank you so much!! Yeah everyone has a different set of experiences with S line audis in general LOL! New vid dropping tonight :)
I've just ordered a new knuckle because of that damn pinch bolt. Lesson learnt my friend
My s4 is in for the pcv vale right now. Had it for 2 weeks and I brought it in. Been in since Thursday and it’s Friday the week after lol.
Yep big ticket repair but common
Damn those two tone seats look good broken in
Thats what i was thinking haha
Ive been puting serious thought into purchasing a b8.5. Been driving a tuned bugeye now for almost 7 years, I want an upgrade and this car seems to check off all the boxes for things im looking for in a car
Do it! I've had a B8.5 S5 for almost two years now and it's an absolute riot with a ton of tuning potential. If you have to deal with winter these cars are monsters with the right tires as well. Make sure you get the sport differential if you do end up getting one, it makes the car handle more like an RWD car in the corners.
I'll be going APR stage 1 this summer, I'm so excited!
I’m gonna buy a 2010 Audi S4 manual. The guy replaced most common issues. It has 153k miles, clean title, and asking 9500 for it
I had the PCV, both intake runners,new oil pan, and new front and rear upper and lower control arms at 138k
Intake runners? The intake manifold assembly w flaps?
@@MrUnknownian Yes correct manifold assembly w flaps...$900 each for the two of them.
This guy is funny as hell
How bout the timing chain? I hear everyone saying it needs done at 100k miles..
Bro I came from owning 5 B5 S4s and one B5 A4 🤣 now I own a B8.5 S4 and couldn’t be happier 🤌
LMAO literally the story of my life!! But tell me something.... dont you miss driving a car where you keep turning down the radio to check for abnormal noises?? hahaha
@@TheNaj bro facts 🤣🤣🤣🤣 god damn b5 S4s were so fun just hearing the turbo spool from The down pipes but everything broke 😂
These b8s have caught my eye. unfortunatley my mk8 gti is starting to have a lot go wrong and im too deep into modifications for any warranty so ive been paying out of pocket. I might just sell it and go with an old cheap reliable vag car.
Damn I wish I was thst lucky. I had a super charger cooler core leak and had to replace those. Also I had to replace my injectors. Those were my main 2 problems. Wear and tear, I had to replace both front cv joints on the axel. Bought it with 28k miles and drove it for about 50k miles. Oh yea i had to get test pipes because my stage 2 dual pulley melted my cats 😂.
Have a a4 2010 154k miles had piston rings and starter changed at 60k at 130k i needed a water pump changed and than a loose timing chain came had to change and now its running beautiful
lol pistons rings? That’s MAJOR. It better run beautifully 😂
Where can you find new seats for the Audi mine are wearing down too.
I have a B5 S4 and yeah.. I need 2 new front axles
I am about to purchase a 2019 s4 premium plus with 45k mikes on dash.
Definitely getting extended warranty
Did you end up getting it?
@@bvrrett I ended up getting a new 10 speed mustang gt!!!
@@josephparker9726 🔥
@@josephparker9726why the total opposite switch haha ?
which piggyback tune did u go with?
Comedy was great.
What causes the oil consumption issue?
How much did it cost to fix the pcv valve
No timing chain issues?
my main concern is i hear Audi’s are money pits? i’m thinking about taking out a loan on one. i have plenty of $ to afford this vehicle and insurance etc lol but i just hope that it’s worth it if i buy one
i had a s4 loved it i put 8k just in upgrades
Modding this car is a serious addiction man... whether retrofits, aesthetics, or performance, you can give it so much character and plenty balls to satisfy any driving style track or road.. it should have it's own rehab lol
This was entertaining and helpful, would I be correct in assuming the c7 a6 with the same motor would have the same issues?
yup and A7
Nigga u funny asf i can not lie 😂 appreciate the video tho I’m finna turn up onb.
you got really lucky. i owned mine from 75k to 130k and had to do control arm bushings, cats, pcv, water pump, mech unit, piston rings, headliner sagged, 3 of my fender liners completely tore, dynamic shocks failed, o2 sensors, belly pan, sc bleed screw melted twice. before piston rings it was burning 1 qt every 250 miles or even less.
What size rims and tires?
How did you clean the carbon yourself with… buy a walnut blaster or did you use liquid solvents with brush etc?
Solvant and metal brishes attached to a drill :)
@@TheNaj yeah I seen that done. Did it come off easy?
No issues with gaskets, injectors etc when putting them back on?
@@eeiko321 thinking of doing a carbon cleaning myself. As much info as possible please! haha
Where the new vids at?
So let's see what I had to fix in mine (2010 manual, cca. 130.000km):
- timing chain (this was painful on the wallet)
- clutch pedal master and slave cylinders
- thermostat
- a front wheel bearing
Regular maintenance:
- oil changes every 10.000km with an oil consumption of just 1L per 8000km
- brake pads and disks
- gearbox and differential oil
- spark plugs
- brake fluid
- power steering servo oil
- clutch
- water pump
Still to do:
- -supercharger oil- - done
- -PCV valve perhaps?- - done
Holy Moly!!!! Thats othen than regular manitinance you really had some solid repairs done!! hopefully no more break downs for you!
I have an 8.5 s4 with similar mileage consuming about 0.4L in 8000km, the main difference between b8 and 8.5 is a revised PCV, they fail around this time too, so i would recommend you talk to a specialist or dealer about it because you can put in a latest revision b8.5 pcv, however i think some coding is involved because they operate at different release pressures. Otherwise all the other maintenance youve done is actually really good and similar to the factory list by now (canada at least). Ive driven manual a lot before this car so my clutch is still pretty good even with a 420hp dyno tune, but dont feel too bad about needing a new clutch at 130k km, i would consider it close to average for a performance and especially heavy 4wd car with heavvvvvy flywheel
@@JX3200 PCV valve replacement is already on my list for the next inspection or before the next long journey (about 3800km round trip :) )
Why the timing chain partner? What symptoms did you have??
That sucks... $$$
How was the chipwerke and what setting did you use? Years later I still rocking the CW no complaints responses a blast! I do 2 also have b8 manual it has been good to me also. What coilovers do you have? Was yours garaged parked or outdoors. I am still below 90K. But looking forward to the next 100K miles! Impressed original coil packs, spark plugs and catalytic converters you never changed out since you never mentioned? What oil did you use? I want mines last as much as yours. I casually open it up unlike all my hondas I redlined all the time!
I have the chipwerke pro its nice i got it second hand the convenience and value cannot be beat it will pull as good or better than other stage 1 tunes i buy and sell these cars and trust me the differences aren’t massive
@@draggy6544 Almost 2 years, I strongly agree. I removed it for emissions then back on ASAP. Gas mileage worsened when I had it off for 2 weeks. The power never disappoints (CW only no intake,everything stock even tires Dunlops)vs tuned name brand Stage 1 I beat them with ease unless because I am good driver thanks to my 20 years of Honda/Acura VTEC experience! Pleased by convenience and the cheap used price why not try and glad this product exist!
I have a B8.5 S5, only at 96k, but I keep my cars forever. Last VW was at 205k, a coworker still drives it.
Glad to see they last that long. I've done spark plugs and a coil pack, wheel bearing and replaced the down pipes in the 55k/4 years I've owned it.
APR stage II (single pulley) with that sweet 6 speed manual. I'll probably keep this one another 5-6 years.
I have had mine for about 7 month and in that time it has been in the shop for about 4-5 month. the car only had 70k miles when I got it and has gone through 2 transmissions in just 10k miles. if anyone is looking to buy a b8 s4 DONT get one with a dsg transmission they are know to be unreliable. the car was in amazing condition and I thought I got a great car for what I paid but I have paid around 7k in repairs already and only put 10k miles on the car. even after all that its such a fun car i love driving it i just wish i did not have to live in fear of the transmission breaking again
That seems very weird. My B8 S4 w/ DSG has 153k and ive had zero issues.
Sorry to hear that, but that's not a common issue. Mine's had a DSG tune for 2 years and I daily it and take it to the track.
you forgot motor mounts, and a cv , and t stat,. ive had my 2012 for 5 years sitting at 76k miles all those been replaced. Also 5'11.5 dont have that issue with people in the back i sit in a controlled alert manner. The two tone leather seats wear down stupid fast.
YOU ARE 100% correct about the motor mounts. I completely forgot I replaced them. And yes the red started to wear down quick!
That oil consumption issue is messed up.
What up with that?
Did Audi fix it in their later models?
I have owned four V6 Audis, the 2.8 12 v, 2.8 32 v, 3.0 32v and now a 3.2. They ALL use loads of oil. Every time I get a replacement car I think - that problem will be fixed in thiis car. And it isnt. Its just an Audi thing. II love those engines though.
@@JamesLoudon
Eventually burning oil leads to even more serious problems....
what rims are those?
Did you have any rattling on startup from the timing chain?
YESSSS i forgot to mention. that happened througout the entire ownership i guess its normal
if the rattle is less than 3 seconds you`re fine
Man you really lucker doged out I’ve spent close to 9 thousand on my B8.5 S4. Great video though the car is amazing but damn vag cars are so expensive if you’re on a budget good luck 😂.
haha yeah my man i heard horror stories!! Thank you!
What year ? That’s crazy , I’m looking at a s4 2016 2016k miles for 19k but he said he’d do 15k new clutch , walnut blasted , new breaks , oil changed , stage 2 intakes ? Needs water pump done but he has parts
@@jketphanh22 I read your comment 8 times and I still can’t get it to make sense.. lol
@@dylanott2112 my fault bro . lol what year is your car is what I’m asking , and your opinion on a s4 I’m looking at , it’s a 2016 s4 with 106k miles on it , and he’s just saying the water pump needs to be replaced for 15k original price was 19k
@@jketphanh22 so the car is 15k with 106k typical problems at that point are timing chain tensioner which is pricy. But I love my S4 honestly I’ve got 68k on the dash and it’s a 2015. Is the car tuned at all?
So if I was looking at a 2014 S4 1 owner original 22000 miles and inspected by Audi would you say I need an extended warranty?
It would depend on how long youre trying to own it and how many miles you drive a year :)
I’m looking at a 2010 S4 but it has like 256k kms, idk if it’s a smart buy with that many kms
Did you buy it? I had an A6 3.0t with 280k kms and it was solid as a rock. But at that kind of mileage you might have timing chain and DSG transmission issues so be careful. Even though these things can last I wouldn't buy any German car with that kind of mileage
The B5 joke 🤣 I can relate. Then I decided buying An n54 would be a good idea 🤡
Lmao bro this is me rn recently sold my 09 335i I’m looking for what to get into next
@@luismolina4251 b58.
4:56 under 15k?
Your seats where cracked because you never did proper leather treatments for your seats . Detailer here 🤟🏻
You never had to do the timing chain?
Not common on these whatsoever
would you say this would most likely apply to the s7 at 150k?
I heard the s7 is way too expensive
@@octane8872 it’s been solid so far!
Dumb question
Did you have the B8 with the V8 or B8.5 with the V6?
I'm looking to get a B8 with a 4.2 and manual in about a year. Any suggestions or tips?
He has the b8 with the 3.0 v6. I don't believe the b8 s4's ever came with the v8
@@SoupiestBeatle7 Shit u rite, forgot it was only the S5
Only b8 s5 came with a v8
@@Pavorish B7 S4 and RS4 came in the 4.2L v8 😮💨
What was the problem . Where did the coolant go?
PCV valve was the problem
@@zacrichards3604
That has nothing to do with coolant
@@erwinvanriel5843 coolant runs through the pcv valve
I would love to have a conversation with you. currently 2015 S4 with 148K
I’m all ears!!
How's the s4 holding up? I'm looking to buy a 2015 with around 110k miles? What should I look out for?
What did they give you for it ?
Considering it was in pretty rough condition i got 9!
How was the DSG problems?
I wanna know this as well
it's a manual.
I found an s4 prestige with 110k miles but in great condition and all audi dealer on time maintenance records, its listed for $25k but maybe I could get it for $22k, do you think it'd be worth it?
I’ve been looking for a b8.5 s4 recently and I am wondering the same thing. I can’t find any under 100k miles that are in my price range. Is 20-25k a good price for 100,000+ miles?
I found a 2016 for 19k but he said he’d do 15k for me 106k on the dash only needs water pump replaced idk if I should get it .. walnut has been blasted new clutch .
Did you get it? I got my b8.5 s4 for 27k 1 owner all maintenance on carfax 67k miles
@@hydercarranza622 nah I should’ve .. I ended up grabbing another g37 but in manual
@@hydercarranza622 will definitely be my next car when I can afford it
Why get rid of it? They probably won't make a car like this ever again :(
Traded it in for something else.. New video review drops tuesday!
I just bought a 2010 A4 Quattro with 51k miles and the car is using 1qt of oil every 350/400 miles 😓😓
beat
Yes it can get frustrating.. i got used to it after a few months haaha!
So why do all these car " reviewers" say these Audis are all money Pitts. All I ever hear is Audi are unreliable , always breaking down and you have to remove everything to get at what needs work . Nobody ever asks how well we're the owners looking after the cars . I see many people abuse the crap out of their cars .
i always launch my car lmao
I’m not sure how the B8 S4 and A4 are considered bulletproof engines. Aren’t they notorious for having a ton of issues?
The B8.5 Audi S4’s and A4’s hold that title.
For the most part, the 3.0 V6 supercharged engine is considered bullet proof, not the 2.0T 4 cylinder in the A4.
AUDI. The brand for people not smart enough to buy a Benz or Bimmer with much better reliability and far better Engineering and solidity. It's no wonder my mechanic calls AUDI "a Volkswagen with options." lol
Gotta agree with you on mercedes, top in german engineering, but BMW, doesnt win in engineering or reliability in any way at all.. Id rather have a honda accord over a BMW bc at least i'll get to my destination haha
Your mechanic just can’t afford one 😂 BMW’s and reliability can’t be used in the same sentence
U bought an s4 and never launched? I call bs
ok maybe once.. it was rainy haha
How much did it cost to fix the pcv valve