I love mine! It is so myopic that Trek ditched this awesome bike. They should have updated the geo a little and actually peddled the thing. Market it, give it to influencers on YT and IG etc. It was never at my local Trek dealers, I had to special order it. Hopefully they change their mind and thanks for the review.
Met a guy on my local trail who was riding a Stache. It too was a full custom build, full Shimano XT w/4 piston brakes, Yari Fork, Enve cockpit, and I believe Stans wheelset. He was 6' 4" tall and said he absolutely loved how the bike fit him.
My Stache (with 1120 fork, full xt kit and line pro 40 wheels) is not only my favorite bike, but the very best, most fun and versatile bike I have ever ridden. Super shame on Trek for not making a rideable spec of this bike. It responds to the high end parts better than any other bike. Switch to 170 cranks though, the pedal strikes on 175 was crazy.
Oh, yes. I've converted to SS and I love it. It's especially good on the Stache, I suspect, because of the short chainstays, rigid rear, and 31" outside wheel diameter! -Eddie
Love my 2018 Stache! I added Hayes 4-piston brakes (cuz I'm 220lbs), 180 rear and 200 front rotors, Maxxis DHF, DHR's, Ergon grips and saddle and it is a beast! Only wish they had put a threaded BB on this...not sure why they cheaped on pressed. Oh well, love this bike!
@@SimplyMountainBiking Hello Eddie! 2 years later, I've had a Trek Stache, and a 29+ Wheelset for my fat bikes, tomorrow I'm about to pick up another Trek Stache, and was amazed when I saw my comment on your video, which is excellent! So much useful information dude, like the fact a Yari fork can accommodate a Vee 29 x 3.25 tyre. Cracking stuff 🤘🤘
I picked up a Used Large Frame Stashe 5 last year. Was excited about this bike. I am on the M/L or M size bracket and on the cusp of being in a L frame. Its tricky trying to size it with cockpit modifications. Heres to hoping i can get this thing set for me
I added a 40mm riser bar on a shorter stem to bring in the reach. So far so good, but it's still in the back of my mind that the bike is bigger than usual
Just picked one up and love it! I'm thinking of putting the 3.25 Bulldozers on it as I found some online. Did they hold up well and continue to fit? (A bike shop mechanic once told me that some tires stretch out w/age and get slightly larger in diameter... there isn't a lot of clearance if these did that.)
Anyone know if it’s possible to convert the Stache to an ebike? I have a Stache 5 that I really like but am considering converting it or selling it and buying an EMTB.
I have a Stache 5. I run 2.8" WTB Vigilates for downhill/rougher stuff and the stock XR2s for the XC trails around me. Rides like a champ, but you're not kidding about that rear weight. I've broken two spokes and a rear thru axle after a little over a year of use.
I've used and would recommend the WTB Rangers for this bike too. Very tough and held air like no other tubeless setup I've ever used. My Stache was bought long enough ago it came with Chupacabras. Can't get those any more. I wish I could. The Chup's are faster rolling than the XR2s. - Eddie
I was thinking about going to a 2.8 or even a 2.6 on mine. Im kinda new to mountain biking. What would be an advantage to going to a 2.6 or 2.8? A 2.6 would still be ok on the stock wheel right? Or maybe different widths on front and back. Thoughts?
@@orriechaffin2850 The MuleFuts have a 50mm width - so I think a 2.6 would be okay - depending on the manufacturer. The most common setup is to run a wider tire on the front, so if you wanted to run a 2.6 on the back and 2.8 on the front - that would be a good setup. - Eddie
I have a 2016 Stache 5 (the rigid teal one) and it’s magic! It’s full XTR, Chir King, Enve now but still rigid. Toying with putting some Fox 34s up front. I know Fox only recommend a 2.6” tire, but I don’t need mud clearance here in the Midwest, so I think it’s probably worth the gamble
I would like to see it set up as a single speed. I have heard of people having issues with the stiffness of the rear triangle leading to gears skipping when set up as a single speed. If you can set it up as a single speed, and really power up some hills without it skipping, I'll be really impressed.
Do it! It’s the best climber you could imagine. I’ve been riding my 9.7 Stache was a single speed for 4 years now. I had no issues with skipping teeth, I went 32/19 and upgraded to a thicker chain and it has been BOMBER! Zero issues, just get on and go! I just bought another Stache as a backup I love this one so much, that will also be a single speed but with rigid fork.
I think the head tube angle is a little steeper on the 1120. Other than that, I think the geometry is very similar. If you do buy it - let us know how it goes! -Eddie
Been mountain biking for nearly 20years, reviewing bikes for about 10, and the stache is perhaps the coolest and most surprisingly fun bike I've tried. Shame on Trek for discontinuing the model and its' accessories (tires).
I don't have the experience you have - but I agree. I've just bought a few sets of tires and 29x3.0 are getting hard to come by. I've tried the Chupacabras, WTB Rangers, and Vee Bulldozers. I have a set of Maxxis Minions and Vittori Cannolis ready to go on. -Eddie
I liked mine but the short chain stays ain’t all they are cracked to be. Hard to climb steep and techy sections. Hard to keep the front end down. Sold both of mine. I hate one by systems for my area. Need more range.
Me too. I liked this bike so much, that I bought a second one and set it up SSP to use it as a daily rider for commuting to work. This setup is also used for kind of "urban trail riding". I am now going to convert it to normal 27,5 with a 160 mm fork as a Enduro style Hardtail.
I cracked one of the line 40 carbon wheels on my stash and went with We Are One carbon hoops. Supposedly they have a lifetime warranty and have never been broken. I run rim protectors and go 12-15 psi depending on the terrain
why do you think trek decided to discontinue the stache? im soo bumbed the did i have been wanting this bike for a long time and always thought it be around .
I would guess that at least part of the reason is because the bike is harsh in the rear. I know of two other people (besides myself) that had warranty repairs done to their rear wheel because of broken spokes. I had to change to i9 wheels that are stronger because of at least three separate times I ended up with broken spokes on the stock set. In my research - I found out the bike was originally just a 'regular' 29er - but they changed it to a plus to help with the harshness in the rear. 29+ size tires are hard to come by these days...
Shame about this bike being discontinued. Trek does not really have a competitor in the 29er Trail hardtail space. The current Specialized Fuse 29er with 2.6 tyres and adjustable chain stay dropouts, is a perfect example of howTrek should have updated the Stache bike.
@@SimplyMountainBiking Where do you get 29x3.0 tires for this thing? I think I heard all the major manufacturers stopped making them, so they’re hard to find.
I think you can still get the frame. Wheels and tires are getting hard to come by... I may move on in a couple years myself if we don't see a come-back for 29+ -Eddie
Love mine 2017 model. I am the owner of one of just 2 delivered to my country with population over 45 millions. How do I know? Trust me, I worked at Trek dealership.
It’s a bummer they discontinued this bike. It’s such a forgiving ride, and I think most mountain bikers would do better on something with 29+ tires. You can roll over most anything on a Stache.
I understand why others might not like it - but it feels... right for my size (over 6'3"). I don't know that I'd be riding MTB if 29ers were no longer offered and 29+ is bonus! -Eddie
Now doubt perfect on the downhill, but clearly too sluggish on those climbs with so much rolling weight. For most customers' needs anyway. Hence, 29+ is nothing bud dead, isn't it. I still ride a 3.0" wheelset though.
I totally love it - not everyone is an XC racer, but it seems so many think they need to pretend to be. I'll take the rolling mass hit and lose a few seconds for the fun and comfort! -Eddie
@@SimplyMountainBiking Its not always that XC template though. More like, as you get older, you are glad to clear some mountians at all :) 29+ makes you overbiked on these climb sections quite a bit. And time spent on climbs is by far the longest within a ride, typically.
Plus bikes are not cool anymore says the bike industry. They want you to sell your plus bikes and buy 29ers. Call me fat, old , stupid maybe not in that order but for aggressive cross country or trail riding the plus set up is by far the best. My buddy had a fully loaded yeti sb something and I preferred my salsa 27.5 plus pony rustler. Bike park no downhill no enduro probably not but 80% of riders are trail riding and not crunching strava data. There is still a demand for plus tires and wheels and the bike industry does not want you to know that because plus bikes are not cool.
29+ is an absolute riot. Finding tires, though - not so fun. The advantages of grip + comfort make it worth the extra weight and friction, IMHO. For most riders, I'm convinced plus is the best format. -Eddie
I love mine! It is so myopic that Trek ditched this awesome bike. They should have updated the geo a little and actually peddled the thing. Market it, give it to influencers on YT and IG etc. It was never at my local Trek dealers, I had to special order it. Hopefully they change their mind and thanks for the review.
You're welcome! - Eddie
Met a guy on my local trail who was riding a Stache. It too was a full custom build, full Shimano XT w/4 piston brakes, Yari Fork, Enve cockpit, and I believe Stans wheelset. He was 6' 4" tall and said he absolutely loved how the bike fit him.
I'm around the same height - and I can't agree more about how this bike fits me! - Eddie
Yes, I am 6'7 and its is a magical fit.
My Stache (with 1120 fork, full xt kit and line pro 40 wheels) is not only my favorite bike, but the very best, most fun and versatile bike I have ever ridden. Super shame on Trek for not making a rideable spec of this bike. It responds to the high end parts better than any other bike. Switch to 170 cranks though, the pedal strikes on 175 was crazy.
I'm long-legged and need the extension... You arent' kidding about pedal strikes though. Pedals neutral! - Eddie
singlespeed,rigid stache great bike, makes you see the hills in a totally new light... thanks for posting.
Oh, yes. I've converted to SS and I love it. It's especially good on the Stache, I suspect, because of the short chainstays, rigid rear, and 31" outside wheel diameter! -Eddie
Excellent review. Thanks for the details.
Glad it was helpful! -Eddie
Love my 2018 Stache! I added Hayes 4-piston brakes (cuz I'm 220lbs), 180 rear and 200 front rotors, Maxxis DHF, DHR's, Ergon grips and saddle and it is a beast! Only wish they had put a threaded BB on this...not sure why they cheaped on pressed. Oh well, love this bike!
I added a wolf components threaded BB to mine. It's awesome. -Eddie
Nice bike that, I just ordered some 29+ wheels for my fat bike, cost more than my shitty car, but can't wait to try them. Good stuff!
Hey, Turbo Elephant! You'll love them. The 29+ wheels have excellent rollover - but they don't have the "spin up" that a fat tire needs. - Eddie
@@SimplyMountainBiking Hello Eddie! 2 years later, I've had a Trek Stache, and a 29+ Wheelset for my fat bikes, tomorrow I'm about to pick up another Trek Stache, and was amazed when I saw my comment on your video, which is excellent! So much useful information dude, like the fact a Yari fork can accommodate a Vee 29 x 3.25 tyre. Cracking stuff 🤘🤘
I picked up a Used Large Frame Stashe 5 last year. Was excited about this bike. I am on the M/L or M size bracket and on the cusp of being in a L frame. Its tricky trying to size it with cockpit modifications.
Heres to hoping i can get this thing set for me
Did you get it figured out? -Eddie
I added a 40mm riser bar on a shorter stem to bring in the reach.
So far so good, but it's still in the back of my mind that the bike is bigger than usual
I have one, Trek Stache 7 2019.
Excellent! - Eddie
Just picked one up and love it! I'm thinking of putting the 3.25 Bulldozers on it as I found some online. Did they hold up well and continue to fit? (A bike shop mechanic once told me that some tires stretch out w/age and get slightly larger in diameter... there isn't a lot of clearance if these did that.)
My Bulldozers developed a bulge. I removed them before they wore out. -Eddie
Anyone know if it’s possible to convert the Stache to an ebike? I have a Stache 5 that I really like but am considering converting it or selling it and buying an EMTB.
I think there are quite a few "universal" kits out there and I don't see why they couldn't be applied to a Stache. -Eddie
I have a Stache 5. I run 2.8" WTB Vigilates for downhill/rougher stuff and the stock XR2s for the XC trails around me. Rides like a champ, but you're not kidding about that rear weight. I've broken two spokes and a rear thru axle after a little over a year of use.
I've used and would recommend the WTB Rangers for this bike too. Very tough and held air like no other tubeless setup I've ever used. My Stache was bought long enough ago it came with Chupacabras. Can't get those any more. I wish I could. The Chup's are faster rolling than the XR2s. - Eddie
I was thinking about going to a 2.8 or even a 2.6 on mine. Im kinda new to mountain biking. What would be an advantage to going to a 2.6 or 2.8? A 2.6 would still be ok on the stock wheel right? Or maybe different widths on front and back. Thoughts?
@@orriechaffin2850 The MuleFuts have a 50mm width - so I think a 2.6 would be okay - depending on the manufacturer. The most common setup is to run a wider tire on the front, so if you wanted to run a 2.6 on the back and 2.8 on the front - that would be a good setup. - Eddie
I have a 2016 Stache 5 (the rigid teal one) and it’s magic! It’s full XTR, Chir King, Enve now but still rigid. Toying with putting some Fox 34s up front. I know Fox only recommend a 2.6” tire, but I don’t need mud clearance here in the Midwest, so I think it’s probably worth the gamble
How much tire presure do you run? I went down to 17/15...gamechanger!
Yep - that's about where I am as well. -Eddie
I run 12 psi with carbon rims and rim protectors. Does great climbing uphill soft sand.
I would like to see it set up as a single speed. I have heard of people having issues with the stiffness of the rear triangle leading to gears skipping when set up as a single speed. If you can set it up as a single speed, and really power up some hills without it skipping, I'll be really impressed.
I'll be doing it this week and plan to start riding it next weekend. I'll be sure to report back! -Eddie
Do it! It’s the best climber you could imagine. I’ve been riding my 9.7 Stache was a single speed for 4 years now. I had no issues with skipping teeth, I went 32/19 and upgraded to a thicker chain and it has been BOMBER! Zero issues, just get on and go! I just bought another Stache as a backup I love this one so much, that will also be a single speed but with rigid fork.
HELLO) Why did they stop releasing Stache???
WHYYYYY?(((
Likely sales were low... - Eddie
@@SimplyMountainBiking I can not believe it
... Thx for the answer, Eddy)
@@SimplyMountainBiking So underrated
I have possibility to buy 1120 frame, if i add rockshox fork will it be like trek stache?
I think the head tube angle is a little steeper on the 1120. Other than that, I think the geometry is very similar. If you do buy it - let us know how it goes! -Eddie
I like stache videos, you should do another
I'll think about another way to showcase this cool bike. -Eddie
@@SimplyMountainBiking more stache videos are needed
@@orriechaffin2850 I'll see what I can do! -Eddie
Been mountain biking for nearly 20years, reviewing bikes for about 10, and the stache is perhaps the coolest and most surprisingly fun bike I've tried. Shame on Trek for discontinuing the model and its' accessories (tires).
I don't have the experience you have - but I agree. I've just bought a few sets of tires and 29x3.0 are getting hard to come by. I've tried the Chupacabras, WTB Rangers, and Vee Bulldozers. I have a set of Maxxis Minions and Vittori Cannolis ready to go on. -Eddie
Trek has a 2022 Stache C Frame, which can be ordered normally. It's not discontinued ;)
As a frame, sure. -Eddie
I liked mine but the short chain stays ain’t all they are cracked to be. Hard to climb steep and techy sections. Hard to keep the front end down.
Sold both of mine.
I hate one by systems for my area. Need more range.
Yes - it can be hard to keep the front down. I did install the 1x and love it - but need to swap it when I head to hillier terrain. -Eddie
I run mine with single speed and stand up on the steep stuff, able to keep the front tire down it’s been the best climber I’ve ever ever owned
The Trek 1120 is basically a Stache with bag frames and carbon fork, so it's still around, sort of.
Yes - they changed the head tube angle a bit on the 1120, though. -Eddie
I’d love to see a vid on putting a 27.5 on it
I'll see what I can do! I have the wheelset - just need to decide on a 27.5+ tire to use. Any suggestions?
@@SimplyMountainBiking I’d be worried about lowering the BB.
@@orriechaffin2850 It does lower the BB by about 1/2 inch, if I remember correctly. I'll be sure to measure it! - Eddie
Me too. I liked this bike so much, that I bought a second one and set it up SSP to use it as a daily rider for commuting to work. This setup is also used for kind of "urban trail riding". I am now going to convert it to normal 27,5 with a 160 mm fork as a Enduro style Hardtail.
@@SimplyMountainBiking 27.5 x 2.8 minions on a Stache would be cool to see
I love my stache but have been through two rear wheels in two years.What is the name of the wheels you are using??
I'm using Industry Nine (i9) wheels. They're necessary with the Stache! -Eddie
@@SimplyMountainBiking how much did that wheelset cost??
I cracked one of the line 40 carbon wheels on my stash and went with We Are One carbon hoops. Supposedly they have a lifetime warranty and have never been broken. I run rim protectors and go 12-15 psi depending on the terrain
why do you think trek decided to discontinue the stache? im soo bumbed the did i have been wanting this bike for a long time and always thought it be around .
I would guess that at least part of the reason is because the bike is harsh in the rear. I know of two other people (besides myself) that had warranty repairs done to their rear wheel because of broken spokes. I had to change to i9 wheels that are stronger because of at least three separate times I ended up with broken spokes on the stock set.
In my research - I found out the bike was originally just a 'regular' 29er - but they changed it to a plus to help with the harshness in the rear.
29+ size tires are hard to come by these days...
Had a 2017 Stache 9.6 It was great but recently sold it to upgrade to a more modern drive train, lighter wheels, and full suspension.
Thanks for sharing! -Eddie
still enjoy my stache 7
Great! -Eddie
Have you ridden a full stache!?
Nope. In the past three years, I got back into hardtails. I'd consider a Full Stache if good used ones are still around in a few more years... -Eddie
what if a mountain bike has a single sided chainstay?
I've never seen that - although I'm sure it's possible. - Eddie
@@SimplyMountainBiking hope a they try some to make them
@@SimplyMountainBiking search millyard bike
Shame about this bike being discontinued. Trek does not really have a competitor in the 29er Trail hardtail space. The current Specialized Fuse 29er with 2.6 tyres and adjustable chain stay dropouts, is a perfect example of howTrek should have updated the Stache bike.
I agree! - Eddie
Do you still have this bike?
Yes! -Eddie
@@SimplyMountainBiking Where do you get 29x3.0 tires for this thing? I think I heard all the major manufacturers stopped making them, so they’re hard to find.
@@gumbi8989 I haven't bought any in a while. I stock-piled a few and haven't ran out yet. -Eddie
Why have they discontinued this bike?
I think you can still get the frame. Wheels and tires are getting hard to come by... I may move on in a couple years myself if we don't see a come-back for 29+ -Eddie
@@SimplyMountainBiking I have a 2020 stache 9.7, I'm from Mexico and I'm really delighted with this bike
Petition for its return....
I guess we could try! -Eddie
Love mine 2017 model. I am the owner of one of just 2 delivered to my country with population over 45 millions. How do I know? Trust me, I worked at Trek dealership.
I'm glad to hear you got one! Mine's a 2017 as well. -Eddie
That chainstay basically solves chainsuck. EVERY manufacturer should be making their frames like that. Why the fuck are they not doing it??
-Eddie
It’s a bummer they discontinued this bike. It’s such a forgiving ride, and I think most mountain bikers would do better on something with 29+ tires. You can roll over most anything on a Stache.
I understand why others might not like it - but it feels... right for my size (over 6'3"). I don't know that I'd be riding MTB if 29ers were no longer offered and 29+ is bonus! -Eddie
@@SimplyMountainBiking what size Stache do you have? I might buy a 2019 Stache 5 and it’s a large. I’m 5’ 10” so I’m wondering if it will be too big.
Saben por qué la descontinuaron?
Now doubt perfect on the downhill, but clearly too sluggish on those climbs with so much rolling weight. For most customers' needs anyway. Hence, 29+ is nothing bud dead, isn't it. I still ride a 3.0" wheelset though.
I totally love it - not everyone is an XC racer, but it seems so many think they need to pretend to be. I'll take the rolling mass hit and lose a few seconds for the fun and comfort! -Eddie
@@SimplyMountainBiking Its not always that XC template though. More like, as you get older, you are glad to clear some mountians at all :) 29+ makes you overbiked on these climb sections quite a bit. And time spent on climbs is by far the longest within a ride, typically.
Plus bikes are not cool anymore says the bike industry. They want you to sell your plus bikes and buy 29ers. Call me fat, old , stupid maybe not in that order but for aggressive cross country or trail riding the plus set up is by far the best. My buddy had a fully loaded yeti sb something and I preferred my salsa 27.5 plus pony rustler. Bike park no downhill no enduro probably not but 80% of riders are trail riding and not crunching strava data. There is still a demand for plus tires and wheels and the bike industry does not want you to know that because plus bikes are not cool.
29+ is an absolute riot. Finding tires, though - not so fun. The advantages of grip + comfort make it worth the extra weight and friction, IMHO. For most riders, I'm convinced plus is the best format. -Eddie
Not much clearance, any mud it’ll lock up back wheel...no use in UK
I definitely get that, Richard! So far - it's not been a problem on my clay/rocky/sandy soils. - Eddie