This is my second bike besides my Trek Stache 9.8 2017.. just freakin' love it.. The 9.8 already was something special but ever since i have this one this is the one i ride most of the time.. Bought it about 6 months ago and everytime i ride it its just a rush.. sooo much fun! You should give it a try.. you won't be disappointed.
Also had a hardtail Stache, mine was the aluminum 7 model. It was fun, but nothing like this bad boy. This full Stache is so much fun that for the first time ever, I don't even get exited when other new bikes are revealed, because I'm just happy and don't want anything else. ( it's a good thing too, I've been through 8 bikes in 2 years trying to find the "one")
wow, 34 LBS!!! mine is around 29 after changing wheels to the Bontrager line pro 40 carbon and going tubeless as well as changing the bars to some carbon race sixc. Gotta say I love this bike after tweaking it just a bit. Ive stopped riding my other bikes since I picked this one up in August. it just works well for the way I like to ride ( I like slow obstacle ridden trails)
Looks good. What is this like if you change wheels to 2.6 or less tyres to use as more traditional setup? I was thinking that this would make a great do it all bike with 2 sets of wheels
That's a killer machine! Thanks for the pre-review... I'm hoping you follow-up with your trail experiences. I am curious if it can do as well as a fatbike in the snow! ;)
Jamesthebikeguy hey bro I’m willing to buy the new version of this trek full stashe 8 2020 and i was wondering what travel bag from evoc will fit this tank ? 285l or 310l or 320l ?
Thanks. Would love to have this bike but upgraded wheel set on my fuel instead. I went with Ibis 938's and a 29x2.6 knobby nic. They fit in nicely with plenty of room leftover
Thanks for the great video!! I’m undecided between this and the Fuel EX 9.7. Living here in south Florida, getting more into jumps and fast, flowy type rides with some climbing. What do you suggest? Which would you pick? Similar price points for the two.
Jamesthebikeguy I was leaning more towards the stache. Why do you say Fuel? Fuel is carbon whereas the stache is aluminum and 2.6 vs 3.0 tires. Any other major differences that I’m unaware of? Is geometry a lot different?
34+ pounds is too damn much imo, no way you're taking that on a long all-day ride with a group, unless they constantly wait for you, or you're an absolute beast.
Really hope Trek, has some intelligence, and brings-back the FS Stache. SRAM SX & Deore, with a price suitable for those passionate riders that cannot afford prime components and over-hyped carbon. Have taken the rig on epic tour rides of over two-hundred miles. And that's a 250. Have replaced Rockshox with Suntour TriAir. The down-to-Earth priced shock, has had no problems through an entire Winter and so far...hot Summer. The Bontrager wheels, being made of lighter material, and thinner walls, aren't reliable for hefty riders. Switched to Halo Vortex, which are heavier, and less likely to fail. I use the rig mainly for light trail riding and commuting. Very confident. Trek, like every brand nowadays, seems infatuated with only producing heavier bikes(e-bikes), and bikes with excessive amounts of travel. Best-of-all. The Trek Stache geometry, is much more comfortable & responsive for tall riders than the Trek Fuel. Oh. One more thing: Awesome video.
That was another thing I upgraded immediately. At 285 lbs, those brakes couldn't stop me in the bike shop parking lot on the test ride, let alone a trail. I just added ice tech 203mm rotors front and rear and changed the pads out for another brand that I can't remember now. The biggest change came from the way I bled them though. I used a small piece of cardboard that was a bit thinner than the brake rotor and bled them with that installed, so the resting point of the pads is much closer to the rotor, providing a much shorter throw at the brake lever to get them to engage. They work great now
@@Jamesthebikeguy I can vouch for the fact that the line 40's tubeless makes and already very capable trail bike into a pretty much do it all rig. Climbs amazing and descends like a 160mm downhill bike. An amazing rig, just wish they had other colors.
the difference between the two are essentially just brand names. some professionals swear by fox 36's whereas some swear by the pike. the fox 36 is literally only one millimeter thicker and that really doesn't matter much to the average joe looking for a nice bike which is 99% of riders.
With some weight loss it doesn't feel bad for rolling mass, and the traction of the full size 3.0 29er is absolutely insane, so just gear down and crawl things that other people have to take a run at
@@Jamesthebikeguy just bought it i was worrie this will be a tuff to ride uphill I have the foez wit 4.0 tires. This is heavy as the foez im riding with the guys as I started 3 weeks ago back in the trails I'm curious how is gona go will update the message
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Just test rode this bike today at a LBS. It’s a sweet machine! Definitely on my list for my first FS bike!
Nice! It is a pretty epic bike for sure!
This is my second bike besides my Trek Stache 9.8 2017.. just freakin' love it..
The 9.8 already was something special but ever since i have this one this is the one i ride most of the time..
Bought it about 6 months ago and everytime i ride it its just a rush.. sooo much fun!
You should give it a try.. you won't be disappointed.
Do you prefer this or the Stache HT?
Also had a hardtail Stache, mine was the aluminum 7 model. It was fun, but nothing like this bad boy. This full Stache is so much fun that for the first time ever, I don't even get exited when other new bikes are revealed, because I'm just happy and don't want anything else. ( it's a good thing too, I've been through 8 bikes in 2 years trying to find the "one")
wow, 34 LBS!!! mine is around 29 after changing wheels to the Bontrager line pro 40 carbon and going tubeless as well as changing the bars to some carbon race sixc. Gotta say I love this bike after tweaking it just a bit. Ive stopped riding my other bikes since I picked this one up in August. it just works well for the way I like to ride ( I like slow obstacle ridden trails)
Sounds like you have a nice setup. Carbon wheels on this must make an amazing difference.
Looks good. What is this like if you change wheels to 2.6 or less tyres to use as more traditional setup? I was thinking that this would make a great do it all bike with 2 sets of wheels
That would be sweet to have multiple wheels for this
@@Jamesthebikeguy wonder if anyone here has ridden with say 2.6 in wheels? think geometry would still be ok? if anyone has let me know please!
That's a killer machine! Thanks for the pre-review... I'm hoping you follow-up with your trail experiences. I am curious if it can do as well as a fatbike in the snow! ;)
Haven't ridden this in the snow, but my SC Chameleon that is 27.5+ does not ride as well as my Farley fat bike in the snow.
Jamesthebikeguy hey bro I’m willing to buy the new version of this trek full stashe 8 2020 and i was wondering what travel bag from evoc will fit this tank ? 285l or 310l or 320l ?
Thanks. Would love to have this bike but upgraded wheel set on my fuel instead. I went with Ibis 938's and a 29x2.6 knobby nic. They fit in nicely with plenty of room leftover
Nice 2.6 seems to be almost a perfect size.
Great full Stache review James. Thanks. New to your channel, glad I found your write ups.
Thanks and welcome
Do you have any on maintenance on that bike
Is this better than a 2021 Stump Jumper Alloy? Looking at my first bike. Have these two mentioned on local deals
Is it great for driving tours
Sure
@@Jamesthebikeguy ok nice thank you
How much this bike?
Marko Ciric 3800$ 4200$ out the door including tax
Chainring is 30t, not 32. Comes in handy for large diameter wheel.
Ooo good catch, thank you.
Thanks for the great video!! I’m undecided between this and the Fuel EX 9.7. Living here in south Florida, getting more into jumps and fast, flowy type rides with some climbing. What do you suggest? Which would you pick? Similar price points for the two.
Call me crazy but the fuel makes a lot more sense
Jamesthebikeguy I was leaning more towards the stache. Why do you say Fuel? Fuel is carbon whereas the stache is aluminum and 2.6 vs 3.0 tires. Any other major differences that I’m unaware of? Is geometry a lot different?
34+ pounds is too damn much imo, no way you're taking that on a long all-day ride with a group, unless they constantly wait for you, or you're an absolute beast.
What does 130mm travel mean?
That is how much suspension it has
@@Jamesthebikeguy thanx bro
Why does it have reflectors and one of those whacky plastic rings behind the cassette though?
Because they're required by law
Really hope Trek, has some intelligence, and brings-back the FS Stache. SRAM SX & Deore, with a price suitable for those passionate riders that cannot afford prime components and over-hyped carbon.
Have taken the rig on epic tour rides of over two-hundred miles. And that's a 250. Have replaced Rockshox with Suntour TriAir. The down-to-Earth priced shock, has had no problems through an entire Winter and so far...hot Summer. The Bontrager wheels, being made of lighter material, and thinner walls, aren't reliable for hefty riders. Switched to Halo Vortex, which are heavier, and less likely to fail. I use the rig mainly for light trail riding and commuting. Very confident. Trek, like every brand nowadays, seems infatuated with only producing heavier bikes(e-bikes), and bikes with excessive amounts of travel. Best-of-all. The Trek Stache geometry, is much more comfortable & responsive for tall riders than the Trek Fuel. Oh. One more thing: Awesome video.
Where's the ride?
My parents haven't taken my training wheels off yet...
Just bought this bike from a guy on Craigslist in Pristine condition for $1400, very stoked😁😜
That is a killer deal. Nice buy!
What the FULL PRICE on the
FULL STACHE🤣
Unfortunately they don't sell these new anymore. Got to hit up the used market and find out!
Great bike but the brakes aren’t enough for those wheels and tires
True, some SRAM Codes would be a nice upgrade.
That was another thing I upgraded immediately. At 285 lbs, those brakes couldn't stop me in the bike shop parking lot on the test ride, let alone a trail. I just added ice tech 203mm rotors front and rear and changed the pads out for another brand that I can't remember now. The biggest change came from the way I bled them though. I used a small piece of cardboard that was a bit thinner than the brake rotor and bled them with that installed, so the resting point of the pads is much closer to the rotor, providing a much shorter throw at the brake lever to get them to engage. They work great now
How does this thing compare to the giant trance 29er? Thanks in advance.
Very different, the Trance is more like a Trek Fuel EX. This is a 29+ brawler of a bike.
I love mine!
That's awesome!
Needs more comfort features like a larger padded seat and some raised bmx style bars. I'd also want to pull my bob yak trailer too
Things you could upgrade. For the typical buyer that isn't in the cards but you can always add them.
The mino link is literally a flip chip
👌
Love the chubby tire bikes.
Sure is nice!
Men 27.5x3 is mid fat, this is FULL FAT!
27.5x4.8 is full fat
Jamesthebikeguy nah dude that’s a truck tire already.
29x3 unless for snow or sand, is able to do any a fat can do on trails
Probably a pound and a half of tubes in there
I am sure, a nice carbon wheelset and tubeless tires would set this bike off!
Yes, but when you take them out, you replace them with half a pound of sealant and valves.
How much was it
@@Jamesthebikeguy I can vouch for the fact that the line 40's tubeless makes and already very capable trail bike into a pretty much do it all rig. Climbs amazing and descends like a 160mm downhill bike. An amazing rig, just wish they had other colors.
Plus 1 lb for the pedals on the bike
Esa bici me gusta para $ 99
Too bad about the 35mm pike instead of a more sturdy Fox 36.
lol. Have you ever actually felt any difference in "flex" between a 35mm RS and 36mm Fox. Yeah doubt it
the difference between the two are essentially just brand names. some professionals swear by fox 36's whereas some swear by the pike. the fox 36 is literally only one millimeter thicker and that really doesn't matter much to the average joe looking for a nice bike which is 99% of riders.
@@Jamesthebikeguy Yes, but then I weigh 270lbs.
I don’t know... it can be fun on the way down but a pig on the way up, more than my 27,5+ bike.
You would be amazed at how well it climbs.
With some weight loss it doesn't feel bad for rolling mass, and the traction of the full size 3.0 29er is absolutely insane, so just gear down and crawl things that other people have to take a run at
@@Jamesthebikeguy just bought it i was worrie this will be a tuff to ride uphill I have the foez wit 4.0 tires. This is heavy as the foez im riding with the guys as I started 3 weeks ago back in the trails I'm curious how is gona go will update the message
Ya I could have just read that off the website, at least my info would have been correct, ya flog
First off, thanks for the Adsense revenue & your engagement that helps promote the video. Second off, if the website has all you need why did you come here?
@@Jamesthebikeguy no prob, happy to support MTB family. Cause I thought you were gonna tell us your opinion on how it rode
Bontrager xr4 are slippery trash tires 👎🏼
Must be a old set you were on. 3-4 years ago Bontrager actually started having nice tires.
bigest shit box
Why do you say that?
Jamesthebikeguy because i have a trek and not happy at all