Software Engineer vs. Product Manager: Career and Salary Journey l
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Looks like a power couple to me ;) You guys look very happy together!
aww thank you olivier! we're just normal techies tbh.
the best product managers are friends/partners with engineers
literally me and my bf now lol
we are twinsiessss
im an industrial engineering major as well! can you make a video/provide advice on how to move into being a product manager at a tech company coming from an IE background? E.g skills that are important to learn, shared skillsets etc.
Yes pls! I AM industrual egineer too
Wait, how then 👀?
Randomly popped up on my page. Hey Kevin! It’s tia from HS🤣
wowww that's a throwback haha hi hope you've been well
This is so cute!
How does she earn more, you said hou earn 120k plus bonus and she earns only 65k. Can you please explain ? 😅
That was first job after college. She makes more now
Product manager can be done in international business too right?
Hey, did you find an answer? I'm also curious about it.
This is beautiful😊. . Please I'll like to know how to find companies in need of PM interns. Companies who pay their interns. Thank you
Your other video says you earn 115k as PM and that video is posted on the same year
This video is about their first jobs after college and how much they made back then….
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Hi, I'm about to start my career.. should I choose management side or technical side?!
If coding doesn't excite you and dont feel interesting then go for Busines Analyst or PM role.
@@abdarshan975 Can we become PM after doing bachelor in International business management.
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the amount you make? is that per year?
Yes
How does product manager earn more than software engineer. If the software engineer is stuck on a level and product manager is in a Sr. Position that makes sense but if they both grow equally software engineer should make at least the same amount
it's cuz he works in the games industry o_o
@@chloeshih 💀 my condolences to him
I think growth is defined & gained much differently for the roles, though. Personally, I apply for PM & SE positions and always find the PM positions will pay more but are way more competitive to get and require a lot more "risk-taking initiative" & "prioritization skills". Which is a nice way to say there is often not real structure or success metrics from employers so you have to be the one deciding what projects to do, how to do them, the timeframe, and how important they are; But, you have to be the one to prove QUICKLY that your work is valuable & necessary to the company, or you're out. In my experience, every person on the team has to heavily specialize in something nobody else knows. You are basically gambling on projects, using your work time as cash and, if the project doesn't succeed, neither do you. If you execute a bunch of high risk, high reward projects quickly, you can grow & make more money quickly, too.
Strictly tech roles always expected much more time commitment bc every team was so undermanned + we had to keep learning SO much after work in order to keep up with the fast-growing industry. However, we had a straightforward vibe of "Do this exact work & achieve this goal. How well you do = how hard/long you work" and "how much tech stuff you know + how well you work = how much you earn". It was demoralizing to have so little freedom & usually felt a bit like the rest of the company was against us. But, sometimes I preferred the constant overworking of tech to the constant fear of PM bc of the growth gamble.
For context: That's only my experience & heavily affected by having specialties itin both, though. SE & PM roles require you to build completely different hard & soft skills, yet they rely on each other so much that there was a constant blocker between us. So, anyone who might be able to understand both sides is considered higher value. My mediocre tech background & unfinished tech degree from a shitty university allowed me to get business jobs over Ivy League business grads. The skills & business understanding I bring to tech roles make my work much more valuable than most of my peers even though most of my tech skills are weaker than theirs.
Responsibilities on calls you make that impact the company's product that lead to either revenue or loses.
@@chloeshih hey can you ask him to share his thoughts on recent AIs that can code ...like chatGPT, GPT-3 and so on...
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But I thought Product Managers makes muck more
They do, that's why she makes more now.
Only industry where product manager makes less than people under them I've seen....like a marriage lol
I’m confused? Are you saying PMs make less than who?
Hey will u please reply ,what's your both compensation now:) since he was earning 3x of urs😶